and i remember going to a bernie sanders rally at the fox theater in atlanta. he was innate souther swing trying to -- southern swing trying to a legal to black voters. -- trying to appeal to black voters. the crowd was overwhelmingly white when he walked out, they stood up and remained standing .or one hour and 40 minutes they stood the whole time. there weren't that many black voters, and i felt i could speak to every single one of them, which i did. they were all young, and they all told me, they kept trying to convince their parents to vote for bernie. and they said, i just can't do it. they are with clinton. they won't leave clinton, and is because the bill. they don't like her that much, it is because of bill, and they won't change. i think bernie sanders would have had a hard time putting those voters and might have done worse with the constituencies which are absolutely vital to the democratic victory. different: a totally dynamic. elections do not follow the path they think we will follow. that would have been a fun election to cover. matt schlapp: so

rick: what would have happened to bernie sanders was twofold. he would -- hillary did not pull enough voters from certain democratic constituencies, bernie sanders really would have had that problem. the other problem, we are being honest with each other, bernie sanders' program didn't work. there were nice ideas, but if you actually put -- [applause] matt: i think ungar is just playing up to the crowd. rick: perhaps the biggest reason that hillary clinton lost was that she did not re-create the obama coalition, black and other minority voters did not turn out in the numbers they had for president obama twice. and actually, i remember going to a bernie sanders rally at the fox theater in atlanta. and he was in a southern swing trying to appeal to black voters. well, the crowd was overwhelmingly white, but he really packed the place. when he walked out, they stood up, and they remain standing for one hour and 14 minutes that he spoke. they stood the whole time. there weren't that many black voters, and i felt i could speak to every single one of

bernie sanders ran a terrific race. he had the advantage of running a race in which there was no negative ads going against him. she did not want to do that. i think that is a strategy that the race, buton if you add up all the primary and caucus votes for all 50 states, you know, she got 56%. he got 44%. a lot of the states that he won were caucus states. so she won the race fair and square. i do not think it is accurate to say it was somehow in the bag for her. host: i consider myself a progressive and want nothing to do with the democratic party after the stunt they pulled in tweet.n 2016, a how do you bring those people back? guest: frankly, i am not really sure what stunts they are talking about. people think somehow the system was gamed, the people were not denied the right to vote. i think, personally -- host: this is a bernie sanders supporter who did not feel the primary was run fairly. thingsto me, one of the about the primary system is that we have caucuses. caucuses are voting sessions that take several hour

the bernie sanders' wing and the elizabeth warren wing? >> well, it is an excellent question, and there is certainly that i can do more report on that. >> you can have your show back in a moment, jonathan. >> i have no problem with really good questions, and that is a good one. >> from what i have observed, yeah. there is a schism there between the people who want to completely disrupt the democratic party, and hey, we have it going there, and tear it up and start from the scratch, and there are people who want to go in there to fix what is wrong. and debbie wassermann schultz was not a good leader, and the idea that i would stand with the establishment or anybody else who stands with tom perez stands with the establishment is wrong. >> that is the flaw in this sort of the line of logic. that tom perez represents the little guy and just because he serves in a democratic administration, and very popular democratic administration, and continues to be pop you har administration, that it should disqua disqualify him, because we need disruption

we had bernie sanders speaketh the campaign. -- speak at the campaign. they invited every major candidate. gary johnson came. i am proud of my on the monitor are opening up the discussion and allowing people of all leads to come in and have the opportunity to speak openly. bernie sanders came to liberty university and was received with applause even though they disagreed overwhelmingly. i imagine that donald trump had spoken at the more the brutal -- and more liberal university, like harvard, to think people and have listened? i think there was a double standard three i think they did a great job of that. host: i upon liberty university. host:this from didi fredericks. harbor, i sayonal over a dozen students have come up to meet at our campus reform booth and said, i had to write a paper on whatever the topic is, in any class, not just political . whatever it is. and students say i have my grade docked because my professor and i have gotten into political arguments. even in political classes, students say they are afraid to, even if they write articles s

caller: we supported bernie sanders. when the democratic party stole it from him and gave it to hillary who was the pre-appointed -- pre-anointed one, we turned on the democratic party. i am disturbed and disgusted but certainly not surprised by the democratic choice of leadership. i don't see any change between the old guard. i don't know why they did not respond to the debbie wasserman schultz fiasco. that is what cost them the election. they disenfranchised so many people who were so enthusiastic about the democratic party with bernie sanders and they pulled the rug out from under him. this was set up in advance. she was the anointed one and i don't see any change. going with allison would have been -- would have indicated a change. perez, old guard. goes way back in time. nothing is going to change. this is the old democratic party. they picked the candidate and the public just has to vote for that lousy choice. i see no improvement in the democratic party. perez was the former labor secretary. now the chair of the d

chuck todd, going to talk to bernie sanders and rand paul, that's mtp daily, and it starts right now. >>> if it's tuesday, president trump is coming to congress. tonight, what will predent trump say? how will democrats in congress react? and can the president begin to restore his administration's credibility? >> i think i get an a in terms what have i've actually done. >>> plus what congress wants to hear. i'll talk to former candidates from both sides of the aisle. senators bernie sanders and rand paul. >>> and why marie is a tomay is the real winner of this year's academy awards. >> my u biological clock is ticking and the way this case is going, i ain't never getting married. >> this is mtp daily and it starts right now. >>> good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington where in just over four hours, president trump will speak to a joint session of congress for the first time in the historic house chamber. president will be addressing a deeply divided nation and a deeply divided chamber tonight. so welcome to a special edition of mtp daily as we gear up for this big night in amer

bernie sanders rigged against him. where do we go now in the split continues in the democratic party. no doubt. clayton: let us know what you think about it friends@foxnews.com. abby: let us know what you think about the correspondence dinner. pete: senator elizabeth warren otherwise known as pocahontas has been supportive of immigrants and refugees. >> it is illegal. >> it is illegal. >> it is unconstitutional. >> it is unconstitutional. >> it will be overturned. >> it will be overturned. pete: now some of our nation's heroes, veterans, are asking when will senator warren have their back? those vets join us live next. clayton: plus it can't be true, right? would hillary clinton really run for president again? well, we just told you author ed klein will be here this hour. pete: she has a new dnc chair. a new debbie wasserman schultz. clayton: could she pull it off again? abby: rick is live at the track for the daytona 4500. we'll be speaking to your favorite drivers all morning long. a good four hours on "fox & friends

we had bernie sanders speak at our campaign. we invited -- liberty university invited bernie sanders, they invited hillary clinton, gary johnson came, jill stein was invited. i am proud of my alma mater for opening the discussion and allowing people to come in for an opportunity to speak openly. i imagine bernie sanders came to liberty university and was received with applause even though they disagreed overwhelmingly. if donald trump had gone and spoken at a barrel university, do we think people would quietly sit and listen to him speak? there is a double standard. i commend the pretty university for listening to people and hearing their opinions. >> host: this from td fredericks, are a student's political beliefs affecting their grades? >> guest: yes they are and at cpac in national harbor, over a dozen students came up to me at our campus and they said look, i had a paper on whatever the topic is, not just political classes, geography and history and student say i got my grade talked because my professor and i got in politica

one key figure to watch now is bernie sanders who will be speaking tonight in kansas and if he sends a message of conciliation and unity, that could go a long way to calming what is certainly to be a negative reaction from the keith ellison grass root, but we have to see what bernie sanders does, and how his supporters react. >> there is a statement, and this is the statement issued after this vote came out, and he said, i congratulate tom perez on the nomination as chairman of the national democratic committee, and i believe it is imperative that tom understands that the same old same old is not working. and that we must open the doors of the party to working people and young people, and in a way that has never been done before, and now more than ever, the democratic party must make it clear that it is prepared to stand up to the 1% who lead the country for fwhard the fight for social, racial, economic and environmental justice. jonathan capehart is here on set with us. he has been anchoring all of this morning and we kept him here because we knew it would happy today. and we want t

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you listen to what bernie sanders was saying this morning on jake tapper state of the union show you look at the messaging coming out of the dnc and tom pÉrez and keith ellison. at the end of the day we know we are united right now and i respect the fact that this is a far-left progressive agenda, i think that by picking pÉrez by ellison who is more extreme to the left specially on issues like israel, that the right choice for the democrats and i really hope as bernie supporters who are talking about flinterring off and creating their own party get with it and get unified and that bernie sanders also turns over his fundraising list to dnc because he hasn't committed to do thing and we really need it. >> kevin, the fact that he hasn't committed to do that i think what does that say to you, in the quick seconds we have left. >> there's a group of bernie sanders' supporters who feel burn from the nomination fight. i don't think there's divided as many people make it out. i think the democratic party is far progressive left party. they are obsessed with gender and racial politics and t

the money is going to the bernie sanders wing. do you think all of these protests are not being paid? >> let me just say. >> by the way, everybody always thinks -- >> everybody -- >> it takes these protests. >> no it doesn't. it takes the internet to coordinate. >> no, it takes money. >> i think senator was webb was right when he spoke to you. i think he's saying that the democratic party is committing political suicide. he talked about the jefferson-jackson dinners and the democratic party moving too far to the left and they lost the white working people which biden also said and he didn't endorse hillary clinton, he told you and he said that the democratic party is ignoring flight-overstates which by the way, i'm from a fly-overstate, i should say. they should listen to kaine -- i mean, to webb. >> they have to keep the protests. they don't feel, from the left, that they're going to get anything from this administration. there is going to be no area in which they're going to compromise and therefore they want to keep the protest

i took phone calls from bernie sanders and hillary clinton, barack obama and i said absolutely. there would not be a donna brazile had it not been for the people of this party. and it not been for jesse jackson will and walter mondale, and barack obama. [applause] i thought over the years with hillary clinton when she started the defense fund. i marched and registered new voters for bernie sanders until my obligation of the party chair was to make sure i was in the building to conduct the most exhausting review of our party. i went through everything i could find, and let me tell you, when i found things that were inconsistent with our values am i made sure we put aside and we got rid of them. , iry step along the way would call bernie, i would call hillary. i would report back to them. hillaryeful bernie and stood by us and since this party was hacked by a military intelligence communication they so we could get back to work for democrats across this country. when it comes to the staff of the democratic party, i will stand by them. they are the best and brightest, the hardest w

i am speaking of course of the junior senator from vermont, senator bernie sanders. [cheering] during the course of the senator's presidential campaign, i heard from many who described the old-school brooklyn accent reminded them of their uncle or grandfather, a familiar passionate voice ready to impart lessons and take on tough arguments. for me, it was and how senator sanders spoke but it's what he was saying that recalled an earlier generation in my family. his principled accuracy for the rights and dignity of working people and average americans reminded me of my grandparents and my uncle, union organizers in wisconsin. [cheering] [applause] they worked and fought for an america that would live up to its promise in the land of freedom, justice and equality for all of its citizens. they were clearheaded about the challenges in opposition they face and they refused to give up. those were their values and is their tradition. it's senator sanders tradition and it's our tradition, too. the same values also formed the backbone of the senator's strong support for israel

who many bernie sander suppo supporters are backinging. listen tolt pitch he made earlier to this crowd. >> a united democratic party is not only our best hope, it is donald trump's worst nightmare. and we will be there. together. with hope. with hard work and with a hell of a lot of organizing, we will turn this party around and get democrats winning again. >> if you were to poll this room, there are probably more keith ellison supporters in the room, but only have the roof is eligible to vote, so there is certainly some passion by keith ellison supporters, but there are likely more tom perez voters standing behind me, and they're the ones who are going to decide who's the next chair, but the key here, is that next chair is going to have to unite both ends of this room if they have any hope of organizing the party and being a true check. donald trump and his administration, so that will be a big job and pecht whoever wins to reach out to the side that didn't vote for him in the beginning to begin that process. >> so, now, it's down to is

he had bernie sanders behind him. he was sort of the elizabeth warren sect. and tom perez made keith ellison the deputy of the dnc. almost immediately and turned over the microphone to him so he could give his first speech. all of this coming as you actually had some protests coming from folks on the left side of the party there in atlanta in the very room. and this sort of quelled some of that -- quelled some of that disagreement that we were hearing coming from the back of the room. right n

ask your doctor about cialis. >>> senator bernie sanders from vermont. i want to ask you some news today and breaking news just literally minutes ago from "the washington post" about the justice department apparently warning the white house that general flynn could be vulnerable to russian blackmail, officials say, and this has to do with material misrepresentations that he made about a phone call with the russian ambassador. nancy pelosi in the house has called on him to resign. others have called for his security clearance to be revoked. do you believe that general flynn can continue to serve as national security adviser? >> well, i think he has damaged himself in a very, very serious way. i think it has to be investigated. i think the bottom line here is he talked, negotiated with the russian government as a private citizen before he had an official position which is in violation of the logan act. so, you know, i think this guy is somebody who might want to think twice about whether he stays in the position that he has. >> that's very diplomatic of yo

lots of work, brianna. >> one of the criticisms that bernie sanders supporters, because bernie sanders was very much behind keith ellison, one of the things ellison supporters said was -- tom perez doesn't have a lot of electoral experience. he's won one race from montgomery county council. that's it. is this really the guy that's going to help democrats in the mid terms as you mentioned, so important coming up for democrats. is this the guy with that experience when it comes to a 50-state strategy, an electoral strategy? what do youcy to that? >> i think that's going to be a challenge. remember we've had former dnc chairs with no electoral experience. we've had ron brown, terry mcauliffe, who later ran to be governor. so i don't think that's a bigger challenge. he's got to put the right people around him. he's got to have the right message and he's got to do a better job of bringing in the bernie sanders voters and supporters in the dnc. give them significant positions, give the progressives a voice, and talk about a progressive economy that brings back those trump voters, who normall

somebody needs to explain why you put out bernie sanders and let hillary go. is it because the democrats want to try to get her to be the first woman. he wipes out this whole election. he would have won. it would have been no contest. ?hy did you let that happen that is the only reason we lost. guest: i think the voters made a decision. this was a very hotly contested election. terrificnders ran a race. he had an advantage of running a race where there were no negative ads going against him. she did not want to do that. that was a strategy she had that prolonged the race. if you add up all of the caucus votes for all of the states, she got 56%. he got 44%. a lot of the states that he won states.cus it is not fair to say that it was somehow in the bag for her. i consider myself a progressive and want nothing to do with the democratic party after the stunts they pulled in many 16. how do you pull those people back? guest: frankly, i am not really sure what stunts they are talking about. rit somehow the system was gged. people were not denied the right to vote. h

and a huge, huge bernie sanders for sling exporter. and i think bernie sanders reporters come i think that's keith ellison is a radical command as far out of the realm of mainstream politics. it is interesting to think about the youth coming up in the democratic party. things continue to be betrayed and betrayed over and over again. because perez is the establishment. it is just interesting that they are going to keep repeating this over and over again. hillary clinton coming out to make statements, and every piece possible about chelsea clinton gaining her voice. so they are not going to learn any lessons. it is fascinating. >> the democrats do not believe that harebrained policy and elitist ideology is the reason that they lost in november paid >> they should definitely run chelsea in an award. >> making a face. things heating up last night at the academy awards, liberal celebrities took to the stage who once again rose to president trump. does this prove just how out of touch hollywood is? we will debate. >> we are very welcoming to

bernie sanders inspired hippies and freeloading potheads, he also inspired fashion. they used his signature lack of style is information for their fall collection. this model is wearing a 100% too small cotton t-shirt, over a practical 90s era flannel and what appears to be the disposal coveralls you use for house painting. here's another sporting a windbreaker that turns your upper body into the letter a. [laughter] and last but not least, this is from the signature "i wear everything i own because i don't have a home" collection. sanders has said he's no fashion icon. >> my many attributes, being a great dresser is not one of them. it >> tom: eboni. >> he's right. >> tom: is this cultural appropriation, if i'm using that correctly? >> look, kudos to bernie, i hate this design, i can't believe they went there. the worst part about it is the taking of the signature and making it into the font of bernie sanders. completely horrendous. he's quite a mess from an aesthetic perspective. >> tom: what do they usually do, is it high end? >> very high-end, very esteemed. bern

>> the bernie sanders list is made up of folks who supported bernie sanders and his campaign. it was an unprecedented campaign in its ability to raise money in small dollar amounts from people across this country. the dnc can build its own list. but what it has to do is reestablish credibility with the people that you're seeing in the streets. i think too many people feel that the dnc has become disconnected from the grassroots. and so there's got to be some rebuilding of the party institutionally at the grassroot, and rebuilding the trust and confidence of working class people. >> at this moment your view is the dnc doesn't have that credibility? >> well, i think there has been obviously a lot of problems that were revealed through the wikileaks about dnc collusion with the clinton campaign and others to try to thwart the grassroots sanders movement during the 2016 presidential election. so we need a candidate who knows hoto organiz who knows how to bring people in, and who can reestablish that credibility. >> right. >> in my view, keith ellison is that person. >> jeff weaver

we saw that in 2060 with the rise of bernie sanders. they did not want hillary clinton, and bernie sanders was able to do very well. his favorite candidate in the dnc race, keith ellison, he has the edge right now. i think in some ways, what bernie sanders is trying to do an elizabeth warren is trying to do is what stephen bannon did on the right is roughed up the establishment and ruffled their feathers, and that is certainly what president trump is doing to washington, d.c., right now. and bernie sanders said we cannot just nominate centrists, we need to nominate true progressives if we are going to win. that is at both the congressional level and presidential level. >> jenna: very interesting, we will see where it goes in results come from it, we are watching the play-by-play. great to have you as always, thank you very much. >> jon: fox news alert, we've been telling you about the terrible weather and california, torrential rain. these are pictures just coming into the fox news room from the san jose area. there actually has been no

. >> bernie sanders, no doubt. okay. real quick, we have no time. both of you are bosses. took to the stage and debated last night on obama care. amanda, did ted cruise win? >> yeah, absolutely. for one moment -- it was actually since bernie sanders gave it to him. when bernie sanders stood up and told the woman of fantastic sams that she should just magically supply health care for her employees even though she couldn't afford it, i think that showed how out of touch the democratic party has become and why they're no longer trustwort trustworthy. >> one-word answer. did your boss win? >> bernie sanders won, clearly. ted cruise wants to deny the woman who had m. s. from her medicaid. he wants to make sure that if you get insurance companies don't have to take you on. it's terrible. >> the debate is so far from over. thank you so much. thanks for joining us at this hour. "inside politics" starts right now. thanks, guys. >>> had he low, and welcoming to "inside politics." i'm dana bash. john king is off today. presid

bernie sanders complained about them all the regular primary season. they may be on the verge of scrapping that. that would open the way for candidates on the left to sweep the nominations and then, who knows what will happen. >> martha: just a few seconds left. i want you to weigh in on this issue of the inner fighting of the g.o.p. over obamacare. this is what we heard so much out from the people in florida last night. are they ruining it for themselves, having finally achieved what they want? the white house, house, senate? >> martha, it is way, way too early to be talking about that. this congress is a month old. this presidency is a month old. this kind of legislation on taxes and obamacare repeal and replace is very intricate. it was going to take a while. people need to calm down a little bit and wait and see what happens. the republicans may fail. they may not be able to get these bills. if they do, it will be a big failure for them and the administration. it is much too early to be overreacting to what is not happened so far. >> martha: it fee

in the bernie sanders can't. camp. do you really think that that school of economic thought is going to get you anywhere? to make it just ask donald trump. he said he wants to protect those things. and among other things they wanted to do other things. were talking about two different things. i hear it. and the candidates were similar that they got people excited. they had two distinctly different approaches. in bernie sanders wants to do it by taking all of that money and redistributing it. that means us form of socialism. he have populist gracious -- racial tinge. we're talking about economics. let me tell you why i had been so silent. look, the democrats didn't lose the election because they weren't socialist enough. were socialist enough. hillary clinton was a bad candidate. they bent at the been the bedrock of the democratic party. the politics all the time. and if they want to go further left and get rid of the traditional norms i will not throw them a lifejacket. speemac actually think that this is in your favor

issue apology to bernie sanders? own what happened? how do you move forward if you don't own the past? >> donna brazil went to bernie supporters and issued apology. that happened. now we have a unity commission appointed by someone in this room. and we have to make sure in the future that every person that wants to vote for democrat must feel it was fair, open, accessible and transparent. that's mission but i'm telling you real problem is ahead of us. people are organizing in the street right now. i believe i'm unity candidate because i supported both bernie sanders and hillary clinton and i believe i can pull people together to come together as party and win elections so we don't have go through this anymore. donald trump is wreaking havoc on the american people and democratic party has to be the agent of the american people, not an agent unto itself. so i believe we have to move forward and not engage in the ruinous who shot john, but come together and fight the real enemy. >> i agree with keith but one of the first lessons you learn

the idea of him becoming a donald trump or barack obama or bernie sanders style mass fund-raising figure, that is unproven based on so far. host: walk us through the mechanics of the vote today. you talk about the numbers but how does it work, how many votes does someone need to win? , there arend 10:00 447 members of the dnc, 224 to ballot.n the first seven candidates remaining, the two i've been talking about, the mayor of south bend has around 30 votes. perez and ellions are close to ison are close to winning and the rest are scattered with not much support. not a secret ballot. they will roll call this vote. if someone has the majority on the first ballot, they are done. if not, people drop off. below is number of votes drops off. with each round. the four that, they are given 10 minutes -- before that, they are given 10 minutes for one final pitch. not many people i talk to will change their minds based on that. justeople undecided are avoiding public pressure more than they are -- it is possible they could move a couple of votes. it is fairly decided in people's heads. they went th

but on the philosophy, this is bernie sanders party. and as strieng striking as it is under trump, it's strike from my point of view from a policy point of view of a vermont social wloift has been out there on the far reaches the democratic party now is the central figure in their party. that is something that's really remarkable. >> but aren't you the person who was talking about making sure that trade is fair? i mean, aren't you raising -- haven't you been raising these same issues? you and i have both been raising these same issues so bernie sanders has been raising those issues too. that economic core issue is a democratic issue. you can brand it all you want, but you've been raising that issue too. >> if i've been raising the issue it's not a core democratic issue it's something i've been ragds. and if you recall the last president to put in tariffs was george w. bush who put in still tariffs. >> so you're in alignment with bernie and is serz all i'm saying on that. >> on the issue of trade there is assignment but on just about eve

socialism is popular once again in america, thanks in part to the insurgent campaign of bernie sanders and the victory of donald trump. tonight then, a conversation with bhaskar sun car, a founder editor of a magazine. we'll talk about the democrats, the republicans and most importantly, where we go from here. we're glad you've joined us. bhaskar sunkara coming up in a moment. >>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >>> pleased to welcome bhaskar sunkara back to this program. socialist perspectives on politics, economics and culture. the most recent issue called the party we need, asked if we had a working class party, what would it fight for? they're new winter issue coming out february 21st is called join me on the dark side, you can probably guess what that's about. glad to have you back on this program. we're in the first 100 days, how are you making it? >> it's terrible. this is surprising for me, at the moment hillary clinton lost, i'm no great fan of hillary clinton, i was not feeling good. hey, we should have nominated joe biden. i thought

former labor secretary tom perez won out over bernie sanders backed congressman keith ellison in what many saw as a proxy war between the clinton wing of the party and the sanders wing of the party. ellison accepted sanders offer. senator sanders will be live. mr. chairman, thank you for joining us. >> please to be with you, jake. >> i know your voice is from vigorous campaigning, so nobody at home should sound any alarms. >> yep. >> i want to ask you, president trump told cpac on friday that the republican party will be the party of the american worker, and in november, president trump carried workers without a college degree, working class voters by 37%. what is your plan to work these voters back into the fold. >> we lead with our values and our actions, we talk about how literally hours into the trump administration was a fraud, he made it harder for first-time homeowners to buy a home. he made it harder to save for requirement. he nominate adjust for the supreme court who wants to evis rate collective bargaining. if you want good jobs, elect a democrat. that's the message that we

bernie sanders had a good message. obviously you were captivated by it i heard president trump talk about. so things bernie got right regarding trade last week during one of his press statements as well. so it's clearing the dnc had to learn the lessons of november, but it doesn't sound like it. and by putting tom perez in there. donald trump himself tweeted this out the race for dnc chairman was, of course, totally rigged. bernie's guy, like bernie himself, never had a chance. clinton demanded perez. you feel it was rigged, too, don't you? >> i know for a fact it was rigged. i tell people all the time i'm not telling you what i heard. i'm telling you what i know. organizing on this campaign and at least five or six different states we would go to states and elected leaders were threatened with their career in order to organize with us. they wouldn't allow senator sanders in any of the african-american churches except for a handful. i know any time they want to have that conversation people that actually worked on the

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>> i think bernie sanders said today is pretty relevant. he's a very left-wing senator, and i think his charge is that trump is doing something different than what he promised to do. he promised to fix the economy, fix both the economic and the immigration issue. he's off to a very quick start for two weeks. you know, name-calling is not what this should be about. if he wants to be helpful to his party, he has to basically bring some democrats and sit down and see if they can negotiate, but obviously he's not willing. liz: how did you like bernie sanders saying, well, i don't mean to be disrespectful, but then he was by calling him a fraud. >> well, i think it's irrelevant. i think bernie sanders had an interesting run for president and obviously will never be a president run again. liz: why did he call him a fraud? he also has tom price helping him with services and the nominee to cut social security and medicare. >> first of all, when you look at the cabinet, the vast majority of them are members of congress. they've been governors, the s

to bernie sanders' statement, it's ludicrous. there was a poll that came out today or yesterday about the european countries actually agreeing with donald trump's executive immigration order saying it made a lot of sense. because they are going through this firsthand right now over in europe, and they understand what a security threat not proper vetting can be. charles: troy, i'm reading from a.p., an appeal to the u.s. supreme court is possible but we'll put the decision in the hand of a divide court. neil gorsuch could not be confirmed in time to take part in the consideration of this ban. does that change the dynamics of the white house's next move? >> absolutely. justice kennedy who has control over the 9th circuit could make the decision himself to reverse his 9th circuit decision or refer it to the whole court that sits with only 8 members. if there is a 4-4 tie, that confirms the lower court's decision. or they could ask the entire 9th circuit, some 27 judges, the review the case. charles: if this goes to a possibility of

tries to get some answers from bernie sanders at a cnn town hall. watch this. >> my question to you, senator sanders, is how do i grow my business, how do i employ more americans without either raising the prices to my customers or lowering wages to my employees? >> i'm sorry. i think that in america today everybody should have health care. and if you have more than 50 people, you know what? i think i'm afraid to tell you, but i think you will have to provide health care. abby: did bernie sanders really answer her question? she joins me right now. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. abby: i think you spoke for so many americans that wanted a real answer that didn't really answer your question. >> no. not at all. and i asked the question twice, and i still didn't get an answer. abby: what did you want to hear from him? >> you know, i just needed some guidance because -- or i at least needed him to acknowledge that it's a problem in the law that perhaps needs to be looked at and perhaps needs to be changed. if we want to be able to grow ou