listen to what former mayor of new york, and one of the closest advisers to donald trump, rudy giuliani said, "i will tell you the whole history of it, when president trump first announced it he said "muslim ban". he called me up and said put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally is -- end of quote, rudy giuliani. now, white house advisers stephen miller has made it clear that his intention is to ban muslims. he says, and i quote, "these are mostly minor, technical differences. fundamentally, you're still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country." end of quote, stephen miller. mr. president, we are in the refugee the largest crisis in the history of the world. over 65 million people have been forcibly displaced from their homes. the brutal syrian conflict, the epicenter of this crisis has killed hundreds of thousands, injured more than one million people, displaced more than half of the syrian population. in some areas children in this country in the 21st century are starving to death. the conflict has forced more than 7 million refugees to fle

rudy giuliani said he wanted to ban muslims. >> we need to pivot to other issues. there are so many. let's talk about obamacare. words matter when it comes to wiretapping. take a listen. >> but wiretap covers a lot of different things. i think you'll find some interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks. >> so many issues, obamacare, wiretapping. let's talk about that. words matter. but only if they're in or not in quotation marks? . >> on the wiretapping thing, he said that obama is a sick guy who was wiretapping the phones at trump tower. now he's trying to walk it back. the problem for trump is he sounds a little crazy. even the people on the house intelligence committee have said there's no evidence that indicate that what trump is saying is true. he's ruining his own credibility when he needs to be concentrating on the reasons that people elected him. jobs. it was the big focus. he's losing credibility. >> again, here is the chair of the house intelligence committee investigating the wiretapping. a big supporter of trump. here's what he s

. >> the president prefers the first one and so as rudy giuliani . it is striking to see some of these words coming back. here is the pivotal quote from rudy giuliani . >> when he first announced it, he said muslim ban and he called me up and said put a commission together and show me the right way to do it. it is based on places where substantial evidence that people are sending terrorists into our country. >> now, michael, this judge here tonight describes that and say there is a link of establishment. why is that evidence in place? >> in years past, you have to go behind of the intent. on immigration matter, they would not get involved in matters of political question or national security. in this case, it is out there in rhetoric and from congress and social media. the real question is under these these -- this establishment cause -- people with long-term visas and there are many exceptions. it did not harm immigration lawyers or clients as much as the first one. >> right. >> the question ultimately here is does the congress, does this president

even rudy giuliani's comments where he said president trump consulted him to ask him how to make the muslim ban air-tight and legal. thrust of the opinion. judge relying pretty much solely on the intent. be interesting to see it play out as case moves forward and challenged perhaps in the ninth circuit. does it matter what the intent is when in the four corners of the document, nothing about religious test or muslim ban is written? can you go to outside statements made months ago in the course of the campaign? could be a big issue moving forward. >> stephanie specifically from donald trump. march 16th, 2016, candidate then. i think islam hates us. july 16th, people so upset when i used the word muslim. i'm okay with that, talking about territory instead of muslim and rudy giuliani, trump supporter says when mr. trump first announced it, he said muslim ban, called me up. show me the right way to do it legally. february of 2017 trump adviser stephen miller says this on fox news. >> well one of the big differences you're going to see in the executive order is it's going to be responsive

rudy giuliani said when president trump first announced that he said muslim band. he called me up and said putting commission together. show me the right way to do it legally. miller has made it clear that his intention is to been muslims. he says and i quote, these are mostly minor technical differences. fundamentally, you will still have the basic outcome for the country. mr. president, we are in the midst of the largest refugee crisis in the history of the world. more than 65 million people have been forcibly displaced from their homes. the brutal syrian conflict, the epicenter of this crisis has killed hundreds of thousands, injured more than a million, displaced more than half of syria's population. children of this country in the 21st century art starving to death. the conflict has forced more than 7 million refugees to play syria. -- please. . syria. mr. president, we can't forget the lessons of history. in 1939, the united states ss st. louist the stock in our country, sending over 900 jewish refugees back to europe where many died in concentration camps. a

rudy giuliani was there. comey from the fbi. bhrara is looking at the mayor of new york city, has this ongoing corruption probe. he's about to try two of andrew cuomo's closest confidantes. and looking at things international in scope. really big and interesting. in addition to the fox thing i mentioned, significantly. he has an investigation -- excuse me, he arrested a turkish man, who's a friend of the president there. and is charging him with evading the iran sanctions. effectively. which in a complicated scheme that's really big and interesting, and plays into some of the other probes around this president. the big outstanding question everyone is asking is, what is the fbi looking into, involving this administration, potentially, and additionally, there are questions about whether or not they're also looking at rudy giuliani who, again, is at the same firm as the rumored replacement is the front-runner for that, because of giuliani talking on television prior to the election about what his fbi friends were telling him about

rudy giuliani was meeting president erdogan in uncovering. -- in ankara. people were caught offguard. the reason that this executive was never named in the original corruption in 2013, these are wide-ranging corruption allegations that encircle turkish government ministers -- he was not one of those people. onwas on a new york roadshow a cattle raising exercise. this was not a man on the run. thank you isobel. justin is still with us on the set. we are looking toward a 2016 referendum. this is a smaller part of the tricky story. battle lines are being drawn between the presidency and central-bank. justin: that is right. it is not quite as start as what we are seeing in south africa, but over the past 12-18 months, it has been a division in terms of how to manage borrowing costs in turkey amid a pretty unpleasant economic backdrop. the story now is all about the lira and inflation. as we go towards this referendum, president erdogan is desperate to keep the lira under control. wants to keep that stable. that is the key thing to watch as we head toward the v

within 12 former mayor of new york, and one of the closest advisers to donald trump, rudy giuliani said, "i will tell you the whole history of it, when president trump first announced it he said muslim band. he called me up and said put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.entis "now, white house advisor stephen miller has made it clear that his intention is to ban muslims. he says "these are mostly minor, technical differences. fundamentally you're still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country" mr. president, we are in the midst of the largest refugeeha crisis in the history of the world. within 65 million people have been forcibly displaced from their homes. the brutal syrian conflict, the epicenter of this crisis has killed hundreds of thousands, injured injured more than 1 million, displace more than half of serious population. in some areas children in this country in the 21st century are starving to death. the conflict has worse has worse mother of 4,600,000 refugees to flee syria. among 70% of all syrian refugees are women and children

giuliani's interview where he talked about best way to legally implement a muslim ban. speaking out on the ruling, attorney general in hawaii won this round. put it this way, can't just insert bunch of neutral language on the second go-around and pretend it didn't happen. judge somewhat mocking in tone. of course religiously motivated because all six countries 90% plus muslim. saying this way. illogic of the government's intentions is palpable, notion that one can demonstrate animus towards any group of people only by targeting all at once is fundamentally flawed. of course tonight judge watson halting the travel ban. justice department releasing statement in response saying will continue to defend the executive order that falls within the president's lawful authority. hearing from the president and justice department, they'll continue to follow through and fight for the executive order. >> said will see you in court when lost the last one. bring in mark preston. jason miller, ryan lizza and alan dershowitz. thanks so much for coming on. the news just changes every seco

he also said a registry for muslims, and god bless rudy giuliani of all people. i'm going to aplud rudy giuliani for the first time who when the fir first. >> dhs secretary kelly. well, if you look at 9/11, for a second, 15 of the 19 michael jackson hijack-- hijackers from arabia. none of those were mentioned on this ban, but donald trump has business dealings with three of those countries. it's ineffective. it's counter productive. it's cruel. it is a muslim ban, and that's how it's being read by our muslim allies all around the world. >> the aclu and other organizations already saying they want to go to court. >> and they will. the reason they will is because the justification prong i talked about, the idea that you could not make a bald assertion that national security, the statement alone, was somehow enough to get you over the legal hurdles. i know this administration often uses bald assertions to try to support their claims. in the courts that's not going to be good enough. of course, one of the things they focus on today is that they have 300 or more peopl

we heard were rudy giuliani guessing something was going to happen. when you look at totality of what we have just witnessed it does raise questions, serious questions about whether this was just is russian who were intrigue with donald trump or whether there was extra step there that would be step of collusion. >> another call back for you, i was thinking today about paul cur rin, he was a dependable lawyer from -- to look into jimmy carter's peanut business back in the time. the investigation started and it concluded with without a finding of wrongdoing. case closed. my question to you is that kind of thing still possible today when we don't know the extent to which the fbi is looking into this so far or what they know or don't know. >> i think it's going to be a long time before this investigation is closed or we it imagine it being closed for a few reasons. first of all, there are multiple investigations. there's the fbi investigation, which imbraces both the hack into the election system, into dnc, a remarkable story in part because the fbi blew

perfectly legal. >> do you want to try to get rudy giuliani to testify? >> i think there's a debate amongst my team on who gets the opportunity to do that. so, yes, hour intention is to obtain documents, e-mails and take depositions of administration officials. and to your point the individual from the administration you mentioned, mr. miller has said publicly in the last couple of weeks that the policy of this ban is not going to change. that, again, will be something we use in court to go back to judge robart to show the administration has not changed the underlying policy here and you issued a restraining order order the burden is on the federal government as to why he should lift that injunction. >> you've got a record here of 1-0, which is better than a lot of folks in this field but we're taking a very big swing with this strategy. i appreciate you making time. >> thank you, ari. >> have a good night. coming up, the 45th president with the 141% approval rating says he can help sell trumpcare to the skeptics. and exclusive breaking news about the tim

rudy giuliani was on tv saying they asked him how to ban muslims. then they tried to ban muslims. we don't have a religious test in this country. that's part of the united states and what we are founded upon. he is trying to block muslims. stop, concentrate on what the people elected you on. >> the president brought up national security as one of the reasons why the ban was so important. this is what donald trump had to say. >> hundreds of refugees are under federal investigation for terrorism and related reasons. we have entire regions of the world destabilized by terrorism and isis. for this reason, i issued an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration from places where it cannot safely occur. >> brian, the problem for president trump is that the evidence that the judge saw in hawaii just didn't back up those statements. >> that's what judge watson says. but what about the fact that 91% of muslims worldwide are not included in this alleged muslim ban? judge watson had the audacity, john, in his ruling, to mock that fact. in other words, he said oh, just because there is

you cite a comment rudy giuliani made which has become legendary which is basically that the president asked him to explain on television how the executive order came to be. he said "when mr. trump first announced it, he said muslim ban, put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally." why is that legally relevant? that doesn't strike me as having legal force, what adviser to the president says he says at a private conversation with the president of the united states. >> here's our argument. it was that context matters and essentially what sufficient that is one of the legal issues going on in this case which is that the u.s. department of justice was really trying to limit the court to justice the four corners of the second executive order and just the text that was in there saying this is all neutral now so let's just go along this. there is no discriminatory intent there. the judge saw otherwise. we argued that there is supreme court case law that indicates that courts ought to look at the context behind the text in order to be able to find a discriminatory intent

giuliani that said the intent was to ban muslims coming in. here is the problem, if they are going to look at original intent, he was campaign donald trump last night, not president donald trump. they look at e-mail exchanges going back into what they said to each other when they were drafting the original bill as well as the second ban they tried to tweak, they tried to make the legal exceptions to. people fighting the ban can't wait to get their hands on the exchanges that went down about how they are going to modify the bill the second time and go out and tell people, it's a watered down veio of the the first. >> president trump is not an e-mail enthusiast. he has said, i will take this thing all the way to the supreme court. do you think that's the next step for him? he's having a bit of a frustrating week. >> i'm glad for that. i'm actually quite inspired by the judges rulings. not only the two in the last 24 hours, but after the first ruling in february, i think this shows that our system, our balance of power is working. it's not just t

but i'm looking at this order and -- >> rudy giuliani is the guy i believe. he's my friend. he tells the truth, it's a muslim ban. he said so. >>> up next, trump's growing problem with the truth now that lawmakers in both parties at the top of the intelligence world say they're debunking his claim that president obama wiretapped him. what does the rest of the wld think about this kind of behavior? can i take the president at his word? will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. find out how american exi've beeblind since birth. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep night, and stay awake during the day. learn about non-24 by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. usaa gives me the and the security just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love that

james comecomey, fbi director a former prosecutor in the district and then rudy giuliani. maybe the most famous of all who became mayor of the city of new york, former u.s. attorney for the southern district. a lot of powerful successful political figures have come out of this office. >> and even if fired as a prosecutor, we don't know what he knows, if anything, about some of the ongoing investigations that are now involving the president and his staff. is there a capacity in which preet bharara would share or help further any investigations he may be involved in when he was prosecutor and now post-prosecution with years of that information, would he be able to be utilized in the furtherance of cases or potential cases? >> i think it would be highly unlikely. normally when a prosecutor leaves office, he really terminates all connection with ongoing prosecutions. he's a private citizen. he may be working for a law firm or a defense attorney. he won't have access to the information that he had previously and because he's the top guy in the office, the one story handling the

as rude ji giuliani -- rudy giuliani went on to say, what we did was we focused on instead of religion, danger. the areas of the world that create danger for us, which is a factual basis, not a religious basis, perfectly legal, perfectly sensible. that's what the ban is based on. but as william bank, the director of the institute for national security and counterterrorism at syracuse university has observed, since 9/11, no one has been killed in this country in a terrorist attack by anyone who immigrated from any of the seven countries. the president's own department of homeland security recently reported that citizens from the countries listed in the muslim ban are rarely implicated in u.s.-based terrorism. in fact, the report concluded that individuals who died in the pursuit of or were convicted of terrorism were far more likely to be u.s. born than to be immigrants. well, here is a great irony. and the tragedy of president trump's effort to demonize muslims. instead of protecting the united states, he is damaging the security of the united states. his attack feeds perfectly into an

when i became attorney in 1981 rudy giuliani created of the law enforcement coordinating committees which all of you are familiar with directing the united states attorneys to listen to the local law enforcement community as to what they thought the threats were and it wasn't such a big deal in mobile alabama. i thought it was an effective plan and i would like to see that policy and hands and move forward to restore that. there is nothing wrong legally, morally or intellectually. why shouldn't we aspire to that goal and we are going to make progress on that and in particular people who come here to commit crimes are going to be out of here. some of the countries that are refusing to take them back have the ability and power and the legathe power andthe legal reque action against them a lot of people committed serious crimes to enter the country unlawfully and they are holding them because the countries won't take them back. i would love to have any questions that you might have or any suggestions you might have as to how the department of justice can better serve you. at this point in hi

of the original travel ban, but the media reports, the white house aides out there, the advisors -- rudy giuliani, using words like muslim ban and trying to draw comparisons between the first band in the second one. those judges have used all of that peripheral commentary to really explain their decisions. laura:'if we turn to the presidents claim, that trump tower was wiretapped by president obama, that is the day we have the senate intelligence committee saying they do not seen indications. where does the president have to go now with his claim? >> we saw today the white house pushing back trying to say there are multiple examples of wiretapping. really, there's some equivocation here because it was very clear the president's first tweets this month he was accusing president obama of literally wiretapping trump tower. they have walked back from that claim, but they do not want to admit they were wrong. we will see where it goes from here. the house and senate panels both agree to have not seen any evidence from that. we are waiting to see any evidence from the white house. laura: what

the statements by president trump and mayor rudy giuliani is outside the report kpecexcept t were brought in through a temporary restraining order, emergency proceeding. it's a little unusual if the statements are somehow used as part of the record to make this ruling. >> well, nobody will deny the statements were made. the court can't quite take judicial notice of the statement. particularly when it is argued that there was a context for it. but they will make a record. i mean, you can't get a temporary restraining order without some kind of record and in the washington state case, they did make some kind of a record. but the temporary restraining order is just that. temporary. the judge will probably order a hearing and say now let's have, you know, an expeditious hearing, but that will take days. you'll have to have evidence of cross-examinatn and a record has to be made. so right now i think you can say it's very much in limbo. >> significant ruling, though, i mean, to me, i'm surprised by this ruling that, you know, that a federal judge would do such a broad -- i would think he might

rudy giuliani said on tv that it was tried to find a form for it. stephen miller said it would have the same basic policy outcome. not that much is different. this is not aimed atjust muslims. it is aimed at six countries that we have reason to believe that they do not adequately clear people to assure they are safe. this applies to everyone, not just assure they are safe. this applies to everyone, notjust muslims and the fact is, as your leading peace indicated, the attorney general said today there are about 300 people in the refugee programme now under investigation for terrorist activities. this is something that is temporary in nature—120 days — the fact is we will tighten up our processes and have a better immigration system as a result. you may know in a0 years, there has been no fatal terrorist attack on us soil by nationals of any of these six countries. none of the 9011 attackers would have been kept out. one of the 11 people that attacked paris would have been kept out. there is a gun violence and this feels like a priority? sure, we

two weeks later, for some reason, heralded by rudy giuliani, he said that he is looking into hillary clinton's emails again, which may be of no significance, but we are looking into emails. and 10 days before the election. and now we are looking into her emails and had a direct impact on the election. in this role now, he is more in his wheelhouse as the director of the f.b.i. conducting an investigation. i think -- i don't know what he was doing on the political side. i thought that was very wrong what he did. and i have respect for him in his other work as i said then and repeatedly then. i observed him in the justice department under president bush and was courageous there. but i think in this investigation, he seems to be working from the facts and where do the facts take us. i have been in many investigative situations in the congress and member of the ethics committee seven years where we were instructed, what are the rules, what are the laws and what are the facts. i think in that arena, hopefully he can proceed. reporter: in both cases, you had the dector come out and confirm

rudy giuliani said he wanted a legalform of this. and a senior donald trump advises said it will have the same basic policy outcomes. not much is different. this is not aimed atjust mosul, it is aimed at six countries that we have reason to believe cannot adequately clear that people so cannot adequately clear that people so that they are safe. the attorney general said today that there are about 300 people who came in under the refugee programme who are now under investigation for terrorist activities. so this is something which is temporary in nature. it goes for 120 days. and the fact is that we will tighten up our process and have a better immigration system asa and have a better immigration system as a result of it. some other figures. in a0 years there have been no fatal terrorist attacks on us soil by nationals of any of these six countries. this ban would not have kept any of the 9/11 people out and would have only stopped one of those who attacked paris in 2015. 91 americans are killed by other americans are killed by other

. >> reporter: this from surrogate, rudy giuliani. >> he called me up, and said muslim ban. he called me and said, put a commission together. show me the right way to do it legally. >> reporter: the judge citing from the ban's architect. saying travel ban 2.0 is no different than the first one. >> fundamentally, you will still have the same basic policy outcome for the country. >> reporter: and in nashville, president trump echoing that. >> the order he blocked was a watered down version of the first order. >> reporter: and he is now vowing to keep fighting in court. >> we're going to take our case as far as it needs to go, including all the way up to the supreme court. >> and in a reflection of the reaction he gets at the rallies, the president now saying he may do more of the campaign-style events? >> reporter: he says he wants to do them about every two weeks, and perhaps he wants to do them even more because he has another one on the books for monday in louisville, david. his campaign -- his re-election campaign is organizing that one. >> monday in louisville. cecilia ve

when i became the united states attorney in 1981, rudy giuliani was the associate who had supervision over u.s. attorneys in those days. associate attorney general in washington. and he created the law enforcement coordinating committees, which i'm sure all of you are familiar with. and directed united states attorneys to listen to the local law enforcement community as to what they thought the threats were in their neighborhoods. something wasn't a big deal in mobile, alabama. i don't know about you. it wasn't a big deal in alabama. i thought it was an effective plan and i would like to see that kind of policy enhanced and moved forward. and restore that. i believe there's nothing wrong legally, morally or intellectually with a lawful system of immigration. it serves the national interest. what's wrong with that? that ouldn't we aspire to good goal? and the president has made clear his view on it. it's been mine for some time. and we're going to make progress about that. and in particular people who come here unlawfully who commit crimes are going to be out of here. the law says they

rudy giuliani said on live tv he had been told to find a form for such a ban. stephen miller — you will know of course, senior trump adviser — said the revised ban will have the same basic policy outcome. there's not that much that is different. well, this is not aimed atjust muslims. it is aimed at six countries that we have reason to believe cannot adequately clear their people, that we can be assured that they are safe. this applies to everyone, not just muslims. and the fact is, as your leading piece indicated, the attorney general said today there are about 300 people that came in under the refugee programme who are now under investigation for terrorist activities. this is something which is temporary in nature — it goes for 120 days — the fact is that we will tighten up our processes and we will have a better immigration system as a result of it. yet i have to throw some other figures at you. you may know in a0 years, there has been no fatal terrorist attack on us soil by nationals of any of these six countries. this ban would not have kept any of

rudy giuliani, james comey, david kelly. since this happens all the time, what's the fuss? all day today the trump haters claimed any change interrupts ongoing investigations of prosecutions and ultimately jeopardizes latey justice, especially in offices where public corruption cases are being tried, justice is at stake. as if only one man carries the whole office. cut it out. do you really think that this is the first time in the history of this country that a prosecutor, federal, state, local, town, village, hamlet, has been replaced by another one? what the hell do we do when they die? just give up? here is my question. no one used the word fire or were asked -- all were asked for resignations. who knows, maybe some would have been asked to stay on. and just moavmentds before we've came on air two were, even though they tendered their resignation. but because he has such a huge ego and thinks he's so important that he continues bleach such a request could possibly apply to him, he ramped it up and dared the president of the united states to fire him. so what do you think

giuliani. his role is not clear, but perhaps to intercede. giuliani was meeting president erdogan. the other reason this was such a wasrise, this executive never named in the original corruption allegations. e were very wide-ranging corruption allegations. he was not one of those people. he was in new york for a , a capital raising exercise. this was not a man on the run. you, great reporting career joining us live from istanbul. let's get more on the story. withn kerrigan is still us. we are looking ahead to an april 16 referendum. this latest stock specific story element of the greater turkey story. battle lines are being drawn between the presidency and the central bank. stark asnot quite as we were seen in south africa, but there has historically or at least over the past 12-18 months been a kind of division in views about how to manage borrowing costs in turkey amid an unpleasant economic backdrop. this story is all about the lira and inflation. as we go to this referendum april 16, presid

what is the significance of the interview his friend and colleague, rudy giuliani gave, when he said trump's purpose was to accomplish a muslim ban without saying so. if the court to give credence to those of statements, then this order could be just as vulnerable as the last one. unveiledrepublicans legislation to repeal and replace the affordable care act. on twitter president trump tweeted be an almightyto fight on this. is there any middle ground? there is. one of the things we are seeing from republicans on capitol hill, you see senator paul making statements like dead on arrival. he is also saying, president trump says it is open to negotiation. maybe that is good news. it is the beginning of a long legislative process. >> republicans have to show it does not increase the deficit. that it has no higher costs. that will be difficult to do. even then, if they are able to use the reconciliation process, seven of their members have said it is a nonstarter. this so-called replacement is pretty much dead on arrival. >> it is dead on arrival. what we want is for it to be repealed and

what is at the significance of the interview his friend and colleague rudy giuliani gays 's purpose wasrump to find a way to accomplish a muslim ban without saying so. if the court gives credence to the statements, this order to be just as vulnerable. scarlet: house republicans unveiled their long-awaited legislation to repeal and replace of the affordable care act. today on twitter president trump touted the plan i saying the new health care bill is open for review and negotiation. obamacare is a complete and total disaster and imploding fast. it's a there any middle ground, is there any meeting? things we are seeing from republicans on capitol hill, you are seeing senator paul making statements like a dead on arrival and you see donald trump saying it is open to negotiation. we are at the beginning of a long legislative process. >> yes to show it will not not increaset will the deficit. that will be difficult to do for them. even if they are able to use of the reconciliation process -- already seven of their members in the u.s. senate is it is a nonstarter. this so-called revised the prog

but because rudy giuliani said he want today know how to do muslim ban, that's what they are going to take once they litigate this in court. >> if the ban were announce with a one week notice, a lot of bad dudes out there, when he wrote it and put it into effect right away. this has a ten-day warmup period. where is the urgency? >> by his own logic people who are bad dudes swarming into country isn't going to happen. it states different reasons for wavers why they could be granted, someone visiting a family member, all sorts of reasons on a case by case basis. at that point, you say what exactly is there a ban why is it necessary for 90 days. can they put into effect better vetti vetting -- >> there's no evidence linking individuals from this particular list of countries to any u.s. based terrorists activities. that is another point you'll see raised. the white house undermines its own rationale that this is pressing. >> this is water downed from the other one. this one has changed. you have the new obamacare bill, we call it trump care, it has a lot of the same things that the other

his defense team had rudy giuliani. his role is not clear, but perhaps to intercede in the case. this had brought shares up 6% the day before. people were caught out. the surprise was that the executive was never named in the original allegations in 2013. these were wide-ranging corruption allegations that encircled turkish government ministers, high-ranking businessman, and this was not one of those people. he was in new york for a roadshow. this was not a man on the run. thanks. yousef: great reporting. let's get more on the story. we are looking ahead to an april 16 referendum. this is just a small element of the turkey story. what are we focusing on here? battle lines are being drawn between the presidency and the central bank. >> it is not as dark as south africa, but it matters over the past 12-18 months about how to manage costs in turkey a made an unpleasant economic backdrop. the story is all about the lira and inflation. as we go to the referendum on april 16, the president is desperate to keep the lira under control so there is not a continued sense among voters that i

. >> juan: my point here is, rudy giuliani, tough on crime, mayor of new york. he was the one who established new york city as a sanctuary city. and this worked. it made our city safer. >> greg: may be rudy wasn't right all the time. >> juan: now you're going to attack rudy. >> greg: anyway, last word, dana. >> dana: i wish we could've been a fly on the wall in the meeting today secretary kelly haddock the department of homeland security. you had mayors and law enforcement in the same room that are arguing on the merits, they are for it or, rather than arguing the politics which we are doing here. >> greg: literally you could be a fly on the wall. a little dana on the wall. all right, let's fly. i had, senate gave its first public debate on its investigation into russia's involvement in our election. what have lawmakers found so far? statement. ♪ hi, i'm frank. i take movantik for oic, opioid-induced constipation. had a bad back injury, my doctor prescribed opioids which helped with the chronic pain, but backed me up big-time. tried prunes, laxatives, still co

institute a muslim ban, there is a statement by his closest adviser, a former new york city mayor, rudy giuliani to the effect that the troubled campaign reached out to him to find a way to package the muslim ban and then there are also the comments indicating a desire to protect persecuted christians. thejob for the plaintiffs will be to convince the court that although the order has changed, it is nonetheless religious discrimination and since those statements were made in the past, they really cannot be taken back. the question will be whether the courts by the argument or not. the courts surely look through his words, they do not listen to what he said, they look at whether it is a muslim ban and they will look at this and say it is pretty different to the previous one. the differences are fairly cosmetic foot, it is true that the syrians have been eliminated as a separate group and it is true that they have eliminated the religious minority exception but on the refugee site, everything stays the same and on the general side there is still a 90 day ban on entries from nationals from

things that donald trump said on the campaign trail, things rudy giuliani as surrogate said on the campaign trail, they didn't base it on precedent statute. we know both through supreme court cases in the past and the u.s. code, the president has the authority when it comes to immigration, when it comes to national security and he will make, i have no doubt an executive order that will ultimately sustain the judicial requirements but the political one i don't know how quickly -- maria: steven, we are expecting that iraq is not on that list of seven countries and in this new executive order and we are expecting that the refugee point is going to be much broader than just from syria? >> look,ic the problem with the order in the first place was that it was a mess, right, it was a political mess. i don't know about the constitutionality of it. i'm not a lawyer although it has been blocked constitutionally so far. but the reason that it backfired on them politically is because of the stories behind it, right? the stories of actually people who this affected. i happened to have dinner last night

rudy giuliani the most famous example. he's the one person holding out to say he was fired. this is a common practice. there is a lot to criticize donald trump for, but for doing what other presidents have done is not an alarming effect. arthel: we are not criticizing. >> some are. arthel: but let's talk about attorneys general under president obama and george w. bush. they tried to stagger departures over a few months. president obama was advised that firing u.s. attorneys en masse could harm couldn't newt and throw law enforcement efforts into disarray. when you consider the timing of president trump's decision, could there be something behind the curtain. reporter: you get the sense donald trump thinks there is a deep state from political appointedees undermining his presidency. perhaps he got mad and said let's get all these fights out of there. i'm sure he could have don't in a more orderly process. but it's his right to replace u.s. attorneys. you may well be right that this is not the smartest way to go about it. but he was elected and elections have consequences and

>> don't forget, bill, rudy giuliani -- tough on crime former mayor of new york was the one who made new york city a sanctuary city. it has had tremendous support from police chiefs around the country. >> bill: i think critical mass has been reached. >> i think we are absolutely heading there. what president trump said he is going to do with the voice unit is give a voice to victims of illegal immigration because this is something we have not spent a lot of time -- i know you have with kate's law but as far as widespread attention to the issue, it has t been given that much attention. with president trump being the president and having elevated and given a voice to the victims of illegal immigration, these conversations and incidents will become more pertinent and people would be playing closer attention. >> bill: i think that's one of the reasons donald trump was elected president. these crimes that we are seeing, maryland, long island, and san francisco. >> i just worry about fear mongering and unfairly blanketing people who are hard-working people. >> bill: no one has a right to c

the judge also cited rudy giuliani's televised remarks that the president found a legal way to ban muslims. the l revise ued ban, is quote, same basic policy as the first order that was blocked. and then there were these remarks tr the president himself the other night. >> this is a warted down version of the first down. this is a watered down version. let me tell you something. i think we ought to go back to the first one and go all the way, which is what i wanted to do in the first place. >> that's just one more statement that president trump has made that will support the fact that really this supposedly neutral travel ban that's in his sb executive order is a pretext to discriminate against people tr their religion. >> federal law i read out gives the president. the authority. this is what we argued in the first one. for a judge to talk about tweets or interpreting something that happened during the campaign trail is not in keeping with how they are supposed to interpret the law. we tailored that second executive order to comply with the judge's order. i think so to go back and say bas

it's not an accident rudy giuliani was one of his closest advisers in the campaign, speak to voters in a very specific way and that matters a lot, too. it's coming in both directions. it is -- i call it in the book, it is a call in response. >> yeah. we're wired for it but you have to know where to put the -- >> you watch the people jump and see it sort of reflected back. that's what you see sometimes in those rallies and see it when you go read the newspapers or watch events in large urban areas in the '70s and '80s, like you can turn the switch on. it's enriching political uranium when you do that, one of the most powerful forces in our politics, that kind of fear. >> "a colony in a nation" is chris hayes' new book. it comes out tomorrow. really well written. it's emotional, a little bit personal. it is short, a very clear argument. very well argued. i would say that even if i didn't like you so much. congratulations. >> thanks. >> much more on msnbc tonight on today's explosive and historic hearing in intelligence committee. right here next what you need to watch for tomorrow mornin

. >> what do you make of the fact rudy giuliani was the leader of sanctuary cities when he was mayor of new york. >> jessica, jessica, come back to the 21st century. okay? >> i'm here. >> talk about policy today in the school district, and so you support the sanctuary city policy in baltimore, and in montgomery county, they have their own sanctuary policy in that county that fueled this rape. that created the environment for th crime. liz: okay, we have to leave it there. i'm so sorry. >> i disagree with you, though. >> i hear you, i want to get to the story. 34 cities and counties across the country urging a federal judge to block president trump's sanctuary cities executive order where he would pull funds. what do you think of that, mark? >> well, look, it's more of the same. it is this culture. look, do you think the deficit in california state or in the unified school district in los angeles is enabled partly by this open border policy? you know, this is where bad policy creates economic impact but also an impact on the civil society and human beings. liz: jessica, 10 seconds. >>