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and a home on the plantation property that belongs to andrew jackson donaldson, one of andrew jackson's nephews. host: where is cumberland? how big is it? what do you do there now? guest: cumberland university is located in lebanon, tennessee, 30 miles north of -- barrel wasre cracker founded. cumberland has been around since 1842. we are so awaiting our 175th year. it is a small liberal arts college. i have been a professor there since 2008. host: here is some video of donald trump in march of this year, talking about andrew jackson. clean out theo bureaucracy, jackson removed 10% of the federal workforce. he launched a campaign to sweep out government corruption totally. he did not want government corruption. he extended benefits for veterans, he battled decentralized financial power that brought influence at our citizens expense, he imposed tariffs on foreign countries to protect american workers. that sounds very familiar. host: what is your reaction? sees ai think trump comparison between himself and jackson in terms of draining the swamp. jackson came into office and was determine
and a home on the plantation property that belongs to andrew jackson donaldson, one of andrew jackson's nephews. host: where is cumberland? how big is it? what do you do there now? guest: cumberland university is located in lebanon, tennessee, 30 miles north of -- barrel wasre cracker founded. cumberland has been around since 1842. we are so awaiting our 175th year. it is a small liberal arts college. i have been a professor there since 2008. host: here is some video of donald trump in march of...
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brian: mark cheathem author of andrew jackson southerner, and a lot of other books about andrew jackson and the south. when you see this picture on the screen, what's -- what comes to mind? mark: all the comparisons between trump and jackson, and how wrong they are frankly. i don't see a lot of similarities, in terms of depth between donald trump and andrew jackson. brian: really? not a -- mark: really. brian: -- not a thing. mark: i'm not saying there aren't some similarities, they both have great hair of course. but i think a lot of the comparison's try to -- to push trump into the box with jackson, and it's not -- it's not a viable comparison in my opinion. brian: that's a picture of -- i mean a painting in the oval office that he put up. why do you think he did that? mark: steve bannon convinced him to do it i think. i don't think trump had any clue as to who jackson was, probably before he became president, or maybe he had some clue. i was at the hermitage recently when trump was there and someone afterwards said that trump studied jackson and knew all about him before he became pr
brian: mark cheathem author of andrew jackson southerner, and a lot of other books about andrew jackson and the south. when you see this picture on the screen, what's -- what comes to mind? mark: all the comparisons between trump and jackson, and how wrong they are frankly. i don't see a lot of similarities, in terms of depth between donald trump and andrew jackson. brian: really? not a -- mark: really. brian: -- not a thing. mark: i'm not saying there aren't some similarities, they both have...
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i said, when was andrew jackson. 1828. a long time ago. that's andrew jackson. a mean and nasty campaign. they said this was the meanest and nastiest. unfortunately it continues. then you listen to what he said just yesterday -- or sunday, about kim jong-un. listen to this. >> and at a very young age, he was able to assume power. a lot of people i'm sure tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. and he was able to do it. so obviously he's a pretty smart cookie. >> a.b., is it a stretch to think he relates to these people. he, too, got power from his father at a very young age and was able to parlay that into success. are we just sort of seeing what president trump values because it reminds him of himself? >> well, perhaps. i actually think that sometime during the campaign, steve bannon told donald trump that his movement was similar to the populist attraction of andrew jackson and dragged him down to his grave on his birthday when other advisers in the white house, and this has been reported, wanted him to go to an event with just
i said, when was andrew jackson. 1828. a long time ago. that's andrew jackson. a mean and nasty campaign. they said this was the meanest and nastiest. unfortunately it continues. then you listen to what he said just yesterday -- or sunday, about kim jong-un. listen to this. >> and at a very young age, he was able to assume power. a lot of people i'm sure tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. and he was able to do it. so obviously he's a pretty smart...
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andrew jackson was a supporter of slavery. and there is no evidence that he would have supported the staying of the union and the elimination of slavery. >> i just want to read this, selena, and i want to get your response. cnn's editor at large chris cillizza wrote about it in an article. president trump wants to make the case that if jackson had been president the civil war wouldn't have happened in order to make the case that he like jackson will be able to avert crisis by dint of his unique background. that the facts don't back up the assertion is besides the point for trump. it's real to him and, therefore, it is a version of the truth." do you agree with that analysis? >> i didn't get the sense when i was interviewing him that he was trying to compare himself to andrew jackson. he was pointing out portraits in the oval office and he talked about jefferson and he talked about jackson. you know, maybe he was. i can't get inside his head. i don't know what he was thinking. but i didn't see any evidence of that during the in
andrew jackson was a supporter of slavery. and there is no evidence that he would have supported the staying of the union and the elimination of slavery. >> i just want to read this, selena, and i want to get your response. cnn's editor at large chris cillizza wrote about it in an article. president trump wants to make the case that if jackson had been president the civil war wouldn't have happened in order to make the case that he like jackson will be able to avert crisis by dint of his...
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but why choose andrew jackson? he was a slave owner. he was a very divisive figure not only because he embraced slavery but because he supported the indian removal act and was involved in the genocide acts involving the cherokee nation and trail of tears. here's a guy who was almost actually removed from the $20 bill because of this history. so so very divisive. president trump should, in my view -- if he wants to quote american heroes, look at people from virginia who inherited slaves and freed them and turned around and supported abolition. those are the real american heroes in the quest for the civil war. >> i want to ask you this because this is a president who tweeted this tonight. he said president andrew jackson who died 16 years before the civil war and would never have it happen. how can you say -- >> here's what i say to that. it is complicated to look at american history and the causes of the civil war but there's nothing -- there's no evidence -- if you look at what president trump said about there was no reason for the civi
but why choose andrew jackson? he was a slave owner. he was a very divisive figure not only because he embraced slavery but because he supported the indian removal act and was involved in the genocide acts involving the cherokee nation and trail of tears. here's a guy who was almost actually removed from the $20 bill because of this history. so so very divisive. president trump should, in my view -- if he wants to quote american heroes, look at people from virginia who inherited slaves and...
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and i said when was andrew jackson? it was 1828. that's a long time ago. had andrew jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person, and he had a big heart. and he was really angry that he saw what was happeni ining with regard to the civil war, he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize that the civil war, if you think about it, why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> the civil war of course started 16 years after andrew jackson died. the reason the war broke out, many books have been written on the subject. and it was the fight over the states right that ulgt matly led to the civil war. and president jackson himself was a slave these comments, what do you make of them? >> as usual it's hard to figure out what he is saying, what we believe he is saying. it's not historically accurate, both the idea that andrew jackson was not alive during the civil war, so he could not have been u
and i said when was andrew jackson? it was 1828. that's a long time ago. had andrew jackson been a little bit later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person, and he had a big heart. and he was really angry that he saw what was happeni ining with regard to the civil war, he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize that the civil war, if you think about it, why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been...
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he suggested former president andrewal jackson could have prevented it. >> i mean had andrew jackson been a little bit later, he could have prevented the civil war. she was really angry he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. >> reporter: but that would have been impossible. why? because andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war began. and the controversy didn't stop there. he began revisiting debunked wiretap claims. >>> you can take it any way you won't want. frankly, it should be discussed. i think that a very big surveillance of our citizens. i think it's a very big topwreck, and it's topic that should be number one, and we should find out what the hell is going on. >> i just wanted to find out you're the president on the united states. you said he was sick and bad. >> you can take it any way you want. >> but i'm asking you. you don't want to be fake news. >> you don't have to ask me. >> why not? >> because i have my opinions, you have your opinions. >> but i want to your opinion as the president of the united states. >> that's enough, thank you. >> report
he suggested former president andrewal jackson could have prevented it. >> i mean had andrew jackson been a little bit later, he could have prevented the civil war. she was really angry he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. >> reporter: but that would have been impossible. why? because andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war began. and the controversy didn't stop there. he began revisiting debunked wiretap claims. >>> you can take it any way you...
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andrew jackson was a fierce unionist. he would have worked just as hard as abraham lincoln did to keep the the union together. i don't know what he thinks, because he had a big heart and a tough guy he could have headed it off. i don't know where he's going with that. of course we've spent hundreds of years talking about why the civil war happened so people do ask why. this is an indication besides being off base historically, this is an indication of what reporters find so entertaining about trump. he will answer any question, go off in lots of directions. it's unsettling and can be dangerous when the president of the united states is doing it because it puts you off in directions policies changes that get people worried and i think are confused by it. i think in the case of north korea, i think there's something going on here, an impulsivity aspect to it. i think there's a strategy going on. i think the united states is trying to help build up kim jong-un, give him some standing in the world, and to try to diffuse this
andrew jackson was a fierce unionist. he would have worked just as hard as abraham lincoln did to keep the the union together. i don't know what he thinks, because he had a big heart and a tough guy he could have headed it off. i don't know where he's going with that. of course we've spent hundreds of years talking about why the civil war happened so people do ask why. this is an indication besides being off base historically, this is an indication of what reporters find so entertaining about...
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and now, who thinks that andrew jackson was some role model. andrew jackson was a slave owner. andrew jackson murdered thousands and thousands of native americans. that's how he got to be so famous. and we're holding him up as a role model? i mean, come on. this is the worst donald trump i think has ever sunk. >> i think that when -- >> paris, go ahead. >> in a day in age when people are still denying the holocaust and talking about that issue as if it didn't happen, we can go back and ask why hitler did what he did to exterminate so many jews. we should ask why so that it never happens again. so, it is fair, bill, for the president to ask the question. >> no, no -- >> as to why we had the civil war so that it never happens again, so the divisions we saw again will not happen now. >> paris, paris -- >> and as it relates to frederick douglass, bill, wiei in the room when that happened -- [ everyone talking at once ] >> if everyone talks at the same time, i can't hear you. paris, finish. >> the only point i'm making is, we can ask the question why, and we should always ask the qu
and now, who thinks that andrew jackson was some role model. andrew jackson was a slave owner. andrew jackson murdered thousands and thousands of native americans. that's how he got to be so famous. and we're holding him up as a role model? i mean, come on. this is the worst donald trump i think has ever sunk. >> i think that when -- >> paris, go ahead. >> in a day in age when people are still denying the holocaust and talking about that issue as if it didn't happen, we can go...
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he suggested former president andrew jackson could have prevented it. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. >> reporter: that would have been impossible because andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war even began. the controversies didn't stop there. president trump again re-visiting debunked wiretapping claims in an interview with cbs. >> you stand by that claim -- >> i don't stand by anything. you can take it the way you want. i think our side has been proven strongly. everybody is talking about it. frankly, it should be discussed. i think that is a very big surveillance of our citizens. i think that's a very big topic. it's a topic that should be number one. we should find out what the hell is going on. >> i wanted to find out, you are the president of the united states. you said he was sick and bad because he tapped -- >> you can take it any way you want. >> i'm asking you, because you don't wan
he suggested former president andrew jackson could have prevented it. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. >> reporter: that would have been impossible because andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war even began. the controversies didn't stop there. president trump again re-visiting debunked...
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andrew jackson was a slave holder. he would have had the republican party, which elected lincoln, was the biggest danger to the american union. there's no logic how an drew jackson could have staved off the civil war, had he been alive. we are talking about nonsense. we have a president without historical knowledge. >> here's what really worries me. we need him to negotiate. and in order to be a good negotiator, you have to know something. you have to know the details of the other person's position and your own position. you have to know your bottom line. you have to understand the national interest. you need details. when he talks like this about history, i get the sense that he doesn't retain anything. that he talks about a basis for what he's saying. leaving history aside, as david and i mentioned, it is very important. john f. kennedy could not have managed the cuban missile crisis without a sense of history. we also need a man who knows something, so that when we negotiates with a foreign leader, he's not giving a
andrew jackson was a slave holder. he would have had the republican party, which elected lincoln, was the biggest danger to the american union. there's no logic how an drew jackson could have staved off the civil war, had he been alive. we are talking about nonsense. we have a president without historical knowledge. >> here's what really worries me. we need him to negotiate. and in order to be a good negotiator, you have to know something. you have to know the details of the other...
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did he know andrew jackson was dead at the time. it's not clear from that audio, but the tweet implies. >> even if he did, andrew jackson, we were talking about putti inting new face on $10 bi. maybe he needs to go. he died a slave owner. trail of tears. really his legacy has not held up as well as one would have thought. he was a shrewd politician and a pop list. lots of people think around donald trump and others have been talking about andrew jackson so he had a little bit of information. >> the outsider mentality is what he's clinging to. >>> violent protests marring i may day protests. e details of those, next. >>> violence broke out across the country on monday. dozens arrested in oregon as anarchists smashed windows and targeted police officers with incendiary devices. police in seattle say five people were arrested in protests downtown including a 26-year-old who threw a rock as trump and anti-trump demonstrators faced off. >>> in olympia the protests turned into a riot with people in the crowd throwing rocks and bottles. a
did he know andrew jackson was dead at the time. it's not clear from that audio, but the tweet implies. >> even if he did, andrew jackson, we were talking about putti inting new face on $10 bi. maybe he needs to go. he died a slave owner. trail of tears. really his legacy has not held up as well as one would have thought. he was a shrewd politician and a pop list. lots of people think around donald trump and others have been talking about andrew jackson so he had a little bit of...
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now, we grew up with andrew jackson as kids, i'm older than you. he was an indian fighter, we changed our attitudes about fighting americans, we're seeing the cruel campaign and a lot of treaties, broken, we know that part. he was an indian killer. he's a slave owner. and i try to remind myself, despite my to think about washington, they whipped their slaves they had them in the shackles, they separated families. they had no sympathy for them for anything more than chattel, maybe a case they got to know some of them as human beings. it was awful, and yet, you know, trump doesn't seem to get that awfulens, it seems with regard to andrew jackson. >> he seems to be disconnected from it. he wants to cherry pick the populace president frame and leave everything else. i mean, certainly jackson was an outsider. so trump seems to be, he likes that piece of it. but that just doesn't make sense in this particular context. he owned 150 slaves when he passed away. he was proslavery and prowest ward expansion. that doesn't mention the trail of tiers, chris. now
now, we grew up with andrew jackson as kids, i'm older than you. he was an indian fighter, we changed our attitudes about fighting americans, we're seeing the cruel campaign and a lot of treaties, broken, we know that part. he was an indian killer. he's a slave owner. and i try to remind myself, despite my to think about washington, they whipped their slaves they had them in the shackles, they separated families. they had no sympathy for them for anything more than chattel, maybe a case they...
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had andrew jackson been later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was -- he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was he was really angry. that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize, you know, the civil war -- >> yeah. >> you think about it, why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> the civil war, of course, started 16 years after andrew jackson died. the reasons the war broke out have been studied extensively. countless books have been written on the subject. slavery was the central issue in the fight over states' rights that led to the civil war. and for the record, president jackson was a slave owner. those are facts. lots to discuss with charles and jeffrey lord. charles, these comments by the president, what do you make of them? >> as usual, it's very hard -- it's kind of hard to figure it what he's saying, what we believe he's saying. it's not hysterically accurate. both the
had andrew jackson been later, you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was -- he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was he was really angry. that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize, you know, the civil war -- >> yeah. >> you think about it, why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> the civil war, of...
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while discussing andrew jackson, quote, had andrew jackson been a little later you wouldn't have had the civil war. also this, also, quote, jackson was really angry when he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. as has been noted all day long as we will talk about later in the broadcast. andrew jackson died 16 years before the start of the civil war. now to donald trump's invite to the internationally condemned president of the philippines and admitted killer, the man behind the deadly crackdown on drugs in that nation, the president said quote he has a very high approval rating in the philippines. on the threat from north korea there was this today, quote, nobody's safe. but the president would be, quote, honored to meet with kim jong-un a man he called a pretty smart cookie. over the course of the next hour we'll listen to each one of these remarks in context and discuss the news story attached to them. but we begin with north korea. >> how safe are our troops there along the demilitarized zone and our ally in south korea? how safe are they with some of the defense sy
while discussing andrew jackson, quote, had andrew jackson been a little later you wouldn't have had the civil war. also this, also, quote, jackson was really angry when he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. as has been noted all day long as we will talk about later in the broadcast. andrew jackson died 16 years before the start of the civil war. now to donald trump's invite to the internationally condemned president of the philippines and admitted killer, the man behind the...
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steve bannon is a big andrew jackson fan. and now doubt turned president trump into an andrew jackson fan. in order for president trump to negotiate away the civil war, he would have to know why the civil war was fought. jon meacham who wrote the definitive biography of andrew jackson said to "the new york times" today "the expansion of slavery caused the civil war. and you can't get around that. so what does trump mean? would he have let slavery exist but not expand? that's the counter-factual question you have to ask." so in the next trump interview yes, only hope that the interviewer will ask president trump how he would have avoided the civil war. how much slavery would president trump have been willing to allow in the new territories of the united states? that's another version of today's question, easier question of are you for making coverage of preexisting conditions mandatory or optional? the governing outcome is always in the details. always. so as jon meacham is insisting, you cannot say you would have negotiated a
steve bannon is a big andrew jackson fan. and now doubt turned president trump into an andrew jackson fan. in order for president trump to negotiate away the civil war, he would have to know why the civil war was fought. jon meacham who wrote the definitive biography of andrew jackson said to "the new york times" today "the expansion of slavery caused the civil war. and you can't get around that. so what does trump mean? would he have let slavery exist but not expand? that's the...
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andrew jackson, southerner. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he sternly represent some of the negative values jackson represented. i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson he has to put nations in front of his own personhood, put nation front of his own family and in front of his own interest. that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a. >> on monday, washington journal is from a news organization founded earlier this year. will discuss the challenges facing new startups. our guests include cofounder executive editor mike allen. we'll have the latest news from the white house and capitol hill. washington journal, live from arlington virginia starting at 8:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. on monday at three judge panel of the ninth circuit court of appeals will hear oral arguments on the revised travel ban, who i versus tron. the court is considering an appeal on issuing visas from six majority muslim countries. hawaii was the first state to see the trump
andrew jackson, southerner. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he sternly represent some of the negative values jackson represented. i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson he has to put nations in front of his own personhood, put nation front of his own family and in front of his own interest. that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a....
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you can have whatever ideas you want about andrew jackson. this scrutiny the president is getting on it is he doesn't seem to understand the history and that he's making parallels when questioned about them he doubles down. and in that we see a pattern, strong and wrong. what do you say? >> so the president seems to pontificate and offer analysis on matters of foreign policy and history devoid of the moral underpinnings of topic that he is discussing. so the real problem here is not that he speculated about whether or not andrew jackson or somebody like him might have been able to prevent the civil war. the problem is, in my view, that he didn't talk about the reason for the civil war and why it got to where it did. and that is because of slavery. if you talk about preventing a civil war as the ultimate goal but you don't talk about ending slavery in america as actually the ultimate goal and the driver in the conflict, then you are completely missing the point and you lose an ability, i think, to be successful as a communicator in talking abo
you can have whatever ideas you want about andrew jackson. this scrutiny the president is getting on it is he doesn't seem to understand the history and that he's making parallels when questioned about them he doubles down. and in that we see a pattern, strong and wrong. what do you say? >> so the president seems to pontificate and offer analysis on matters of foreign policy and history devoid of the moral underpinnings of topic that he is discussing. so the real problem here is not that...
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i want to ask you about the curious comments about andrew jaks squn the civil war. >> had andrew jackson been a little bit later he wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person but he had a big heart and he was really angry that -- he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize the civil war -- >> yeah -- >> you think about it, why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> he died 16 years before the war even started. >> what do i think about this rambling through history? i think someone has argued that he's like andrew jackson and he doesn't know about him but mentioned him during an interview. most of our presidents have studied history and they read it. >> the fact of the matter is he did lead a poppleialest movemen. i'll tell you one thing that's really interesting. until the richard nixon, republicans didn't talk about andrew jackson. richard nixon starts that trend and it's ronald regan really talks him up. trump has embraced this
i want to ask you about the curious comments about andrew jaks squn the civil war. >> had andrew jackson been a little bit later he wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person but he had a big heart and he was really angry that -- he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize the civil war -- >> yeah -- >> you think about it, why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war?...
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and i said, when was andrew jackson? it was 1828. that's a long time ago. that's andrew jackson. and he had a very, very skmeen nasty campaign. because they said this was the meanest and the nastiest. and unfortunately it continues. >> he's -- >> i mean he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was, he was really angry that he saw what he was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize, you know, the civil war, if you think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> for the record, jackson's presidency term ended 24 years before the start of the civil war. jackson died 16 years before the start of the war, the nation's seventh president was a proud slave owner. people do in fact ask why was there the civil war. most ebb historians agree the cause was slaifrmt journalism professor. jason, i'm going to -- i mean. where to start? does it matter he sort of screwed up up the history? to be honest i think he read something about 1832
and i said, when was andrew jackson? it was 1828. that's a long time ago. that's andrew jackson. and he had a very, very skmeen nasty campaign. because they said this was the meanest and the nastiest. and unfortunately it continues. >> he's -- >> i mean he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was, he was really angry that he saw what he was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize, you know, the civil war, if...
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sunday on "q and a," the comparisons between president donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest mark cheetham on his book "andrew jackson, southerner." >> i don't think he represents the positive values jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values jackson represented. but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood, in front of his own family, and front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. announcer: sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." tv"uncer: "american history was at the organization of american historians annual meeting where he spoke with barbara shubinski about how the rockefellers philanthropic mission started and how it has changed over the years. -- barbara: alongside graduate school, i had a number of jobs in what we call the third sector or nonprofit organizations. i'm familiar with being a grant seeker and being aware there is a whole philanthropic structure that underwrote or funded or
sunday on "q and a," the comparisons between president donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest mark cheetham on his book "andrew jackson, southerner." >> i don't think he represents the positive values jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values jackson represented. but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood, in front of his own family, and...
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his bizarre claims about andrew jackson, the civil war. his confusing statements about what's in the republican health care bill and, perhaps most frightening, saying he would be honored to meet the dictator of north korea the same week he said we may be entering a big, big war with them. we'll be asking presidential historians doris kearns. -goodwin and douglas brinkley if they've ever seen anything like it. plus senator john mccain will be our guest. celebrating mika's 39th birthday. hey allergy muddlers are you one sneeze away from being voted out of the carpool? try zyrtec® it's starts working hard at hour one and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. stick with zyrtec® and muddle no more®. and my brother ray and i started searching for answers. (vo) when it's time to navigate in-home care, follow that bright star. because brightstar care earns the same accreditation as the best hospitals. and brightstar care means an rn will customize a plan that evolves with mom's changing needs. (woman) because dad made us prom
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that andrew jackson represented. he certainly represent some of the negative values that jackson represented. think i would tell president trump that if you was to be like andrew jackson he has to but the nation and front of his own person, in front of his own family. in front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on 8:00 eastern una. --q and a. >> now senator chris murphy holds a town hall. this is about one hour and a half. [applause] >> thank you. sit down. sit down. thank you, everybody. that is very nice. cold and thatve makes the feel better today. i feel more well with that nice introduction.
that andrew jackson represented. he certainly represent some of the negative values that jackson represented. think i would tell president trump that if you was to be like andrew jackson he has to but the nation and front of his own person, in front of his own family. in front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on 8:00 eastern una. --q and a. >> now senator chris murphy holds a town hall. this is about one hour and a half....
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if it you thought that andrew jackson was going to fix the civil war, andrew jackson brutalized and killed genocidal a number of native americans. andrew jackson owned 150 slaves. the civil war wasn't about economics. the currency they were trading in was my forefathers. so this isn't some individual who was going to grow a heart and end the civil war. we know why the war was fought. for donald trump to ask himself why was the civil war thought is historically ignorant you're entitled to your own opinion. you're not entitled to your own facts. that's my problem with this revisionist whitewash of history. >> it's not whitewashing to imply there's racial connotation to i or to donald trump. people are getting sick and tired of the race card being thrown around. when you have a president looking back at an individual that understood exactly how brutal war was. when you look at the history of the context of what donald trump was talking about, you have a president that experienced war. you have family members that were killed in war. you have as a child he was brutalized because of war. to imp
if it you thought that andrew jackson was going to fix the civil war, andrew jackson brutalized and killed genocidal a number of native americans. andrew jackson owned 150 slaves. the civil war wasn't about economics. the currency they were trading in was my forefathers. so this isn't some individual who was going to grow a heart and end the civil war. we know why the war was fought. for donald trump to ask himself why was the civil war thought is historically ignorant you're entitled to your...
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. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little bit later you would not have had the civil war. he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was -- he was really angry, he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there is no reason for this. people don't realize, the civil war -- you think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> let's get some reaction. >> people don't ask that question? i think people do actually ask that question. i was with trump the day he went to andrew jackson's childhood home and he was reading a speech and talking about andrew jackson as if he had really heard many of the things for the first time so some of this does not actually surprise me. >> there is a great scene in "revenge of the nerds," where he says what if cat really spells dog? phil made this point earlier about duterte, the idea that he is reading up on these things whether it's the philippines president or andrew jackson is just not right. he gets in these situations and
. >> i mean, had andrew jackson been a little bit later you would not have had the civil war. he was a very tough person. but he had a big heart. and he was -- he was really angry, he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. he said there is no reason for this. people don't realize, the civil war -- you think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> let's get some reaction. >>...
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and andrew jackson was of course a slaveholder. maria cardona, is there much more to say about this? do you want to get in before we move on? >> i mean, i just have one piece of advice for donald trump. mr. trump, crack a book. i mean, seriously. there's no other piece of advice that anybody can give him. he is the president of the united states, and when he says ridiculous statements like this, it betrays his complete and total ignorance when it comes to history, but worse than that, john and poppy, i think it really signifies how uninterested and i think disdain that he has for people who really are not just historians, but experts in public policy and in politics and in everything that you need to know to actually learn to govern and be able to run a country. he needs to go back to the drawing board. yes, i think it's too late, which is why, you know, the majority of americans did not support him. we knew that he had this disdain for knowledge and lack of curiosity that makes him completely inept for this job. >> all right, let'
and andrew jackson was of course a slaveholder. maria cardona, is there much more to say about this? do you want to get in before we move on? >> i mean, i just have one piece of advice for donald trump. mr. trump, crack a book. i mean, seriously. there's no other piece of advice that anybody can give him. he is the president of the united states, and when he says ridiculous statements like this, it betrays his complete and total ignorance when it comes to history, but worse than that,...
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andrew jackson was born 16 years before the civil war started. he corrected himself later. he also talked about what an honor it would be to meet with kim jong-un. he floated the idea of a gas tax. talked about breaking up banks. had a friendly phone call with president duterte over the weekend. what do you make of all this? is this pressures of the white house that are causing donald trump to act erratically? or is it somethi else? >> well, it's hard to get inside his mind. we're beginning to get used to his patterns, and they are predictably unpredictable. what i find fascinating is his total ignorance on so many issues. i wonder about that call to putin, for example, if he went through the normal protocols of actually preparing for it, having people in from the state department, then carefully recording it. i thought, what in the world is the guy who's translating that call in russia doing? because if you've ever read a trump transcript -- >> oh, i have. >> you indeed have. they are doozies. so probably very tough translation. but he's all ove
andrew jackson was born 16 years before the civil war started. he corrected himself later. he also talked about what an honor it would be to meet with kim jong-un. he floated the idea of a gas tax. talked about breaking up banks. had a friendly phone call with president duterte over the weekend. what do you make of all this? is this pressures of the white house that are causing donald trump to act erratically? or is it somethi else? >> well, it's hard to get inside his mind. we're...
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andrew jackson didn't inherit slaves. there's no evidence he would have stopped it or had had any investment in stopping the exof slaveriy. the fact that america itself was built on the exploited labor. donald trump's lack of knowledge about it really lack of care talking about a painful issue was stunning to me. it's still stunning. >> actually jackson wanted to keep the union together. he wanted to do everything he could to not have the union break up. he was actually more about the federal system protecting the little people. so he actually made very well have been able to broker a deal. >> go ahead, clickly. >> the south was actively trying to expand slavery at the moment. yes, he wanted to keep the federal government together, but on his terms. the whole point is that the civil war was a fight to end slavery. yes, people wanted to keep the union together. and i'm not suggesting these had an investment in african people and want to end slavery for its own sake. but ultimately this was his decision made to save the uni
andrew jackson didn't inherit slaves. there's no evidence he would have stopped it or had had any investment in stopping the exof slaveriy. the fact that america itself was built on the exploited labor. donald trump's lack of knowledge about it really lack of care talking about a painful issue was stunning to me. it's still stunning. >> actually jackson wanted to keep the union together. he wanted to do everything he could to not have the union break up. he was actually more about the...
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>> first andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war started. on top of that, he owned about 150 slaves at the time of his death. i want to welcome karen finney, msnbc political analyst, and the founder of foundry strategies and a former spokesperson for the ted cruz campaign. >> pretty clear that it happens and why it happened. here's the problem with this whole thing. it is funny in many ways. it shows a sort of, what we know about this president. facts don't really seem the matter. truths don't really seem to matter. on a serious note, the question that it raises is, i would want to then know, what is it that president trump believes the civil war and why it started? there's a neo confederate movement that says hit nothing to do with slavery. is the president trying to pittsburgh the civil war was not about slavery? that it was about economics? is he trying, there's actually a serious question. >> there is. but karen makes a good point. let's say you agree it was about states rights. the federal government trampbling all over them. wasn't a s
>> first andrew jackson died 16 years before the civil war started. on top of that, he owned about 150 slaves at the time of his death. i want to welcome karen finney, msnbc political analyst, and the founder of foundry strategies and a former spokesperson for the ted cruz campaign. >> pretty clear that it happens and why it happened. here's the problem with this whole thing. it is funny in many ways. it shows a sort of, what we know about this president. facts don't really seem the...
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just to the andrew jackson point, i really am disturbed by him saying that andrew jackson had a big heart and he was tough and fascinating. he owned slaves when he died. he massacred native americans. we cannot rewrite history in this way. it is really important that the president of the united states understand our own history. if not, how is he going to lead this country? >> thank you so much. robert, as well. thank you both. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. ready or not, here i come.ek.) ♪ anyone can dream. making it a reality is the hard part. northrop grumman command and control systems always let you see the complete picture. and we're looking for a few dreamers to join us. ♪ can i get some help. watch his head. ♪ i'm so happy. ♪ whatever they went through, they went through together. welcome guys. life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you. >>> thank you for watching this hour of msnbc live from washington. i'm chris jansing. you can find me on social media, @chris jansing. right now, more news with stephanie ruhle. hey, stephanie. >>
just to the andrew jackson point, i really am disturbed by him saying that andrew jackson had a big heart and he was tough and fascinating. he owned slaves when he died. he massacred native americans. we cannot rewrite history in this way. it is really important that the president of the united states understand our own history. if not, how is he going to lead this country? >> thank you so much. robert, as well. thank you both. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. ready or...
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on "andrew jackson: southerner." >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represents the negative values that jackson represented. trump, ifll president he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own person could -- personhood and his own family and his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. >> "washington journal" continues. host: our next guest for the morning is jonathan turley with george washington university law school, teaches law, here to talk about the firing of james comey. what was the reality of the firing versus what you may be perceived that the perception of the firing? guest: it is unusual to see the response. everyone gets ahead of their skis in terms of what the significance was and what was the motivation. the fact is the merits of the termination were debatable. there were good faith reasons why comey would be terminated.
on "andrew jackson: southerner." >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represents the negative values that jackson represented. trump, ifll president he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own person could -- personhood and his own family and his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. >>...
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on his book "andrew jackson: southerner." he representsink the positive values that jackson represented. he represents some of the negative values represented by jackson but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he wants to put nation in front of his own personhood and family and interest because that is what jackson did for much of his presidency. >> tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. >> this morning, adam brandon, president and ceo of freedom works talks about efforts to change tax law and how the senate should proceed with the health care replacement bill. then american university professor alan lichtman talks that the case for an impeachment investigation. and later, the atlantic contributor caitlin flanagan on her article entitled "how late-night comedy fueled the -- asf donald trump." the >> i have talked to the president. the president has nothing further to add on that. >> why did he say that? what should we interpret from that? >> as i mentioned, the president has
on his book "andrew jackson: southerner." he representsink the positive values that jackson represented. he represents some of the negative values represented by jackson but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he wants to put nation in front of his own personhood and family and interest because that is what jackson did for much of his presidency. >> tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. >> this morning, adam brandon,...
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. >> tonight on q&a, the comparisons between donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book. >> i do not think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values that jackson represented, but i think i would tell president trump that if you wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood, his own ,amily, his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." "afterwards," elizabeth rosenthal explores the business side of health care in her book. dr. rosenthal is interviewed by dr. david blumenthal, the president of the commonwealth fund. >> has your book given you any thoughts on whether health care is a free market, whether it can solve our problems through free markets? isi think what we have seen probably not. at the beginning of the book, i put a somewhat tongue-in-cheek part about the dysfunctional roles of the health care market, where as if you think of health care as a butte -- as
. >> tonight on q&a, the comparisons between donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book. >> i do not think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values that jackson represented, but i think i would tell president trump that if you wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood, his own ,amily, his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his...
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. >> sunday on "q&a" the comparisons between donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book, andrew jackson, southerner. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values that jackson represented, but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family and interest because that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's "q&a." >>> to experience a fulfilling, purposeful life, one thing you're going to have to do is this -- live a large life. >> you are your own stories. and therefore free to imagine and experience what it means to be human. >> we have a responsibility in our time as others have had in their's, not to be prisoners of history but to shape history. a responsibility to fill the role of pathfinder. >> holding fast to your come pas of values, faith, honesty, loyalty, patriotism and generosity.
. >> sunday on "q&a" the comparisons between donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book, andrew jackson, southerner. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represents some of the negative values that jackson represented, but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family and...
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that andrew jackson represented. he certainly represent some of the negative values that jackson represented. think i would tell president trump that if you was to be like andrew jackson he has to but the nation and front of his own person, in front of his own family. in front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on 8:00 eastern una. --q and a. >> now senator chris murphy holds a town hall. this is about one hour and a half. [applause] >> thank you. sit down. sit down. thank you, everybody. that is very nice. cold and thatve makes the feel better today. i feel more well with that nice introduction. d which and i say and that covers it. thank all of the folks who are here, you are doing a fantastic job every single day bringing educational opportunities to kids and adults here in stamford. thank you for opening this up to your representatives. thank you for being here, i want ofget right to the meat this. i am sure you have loads of questions about what is happen
that andrew jackson represented. he certainly represent some of the negative values that jackson represented. think i would tell president trump that if you was to be like andrew jackson he has to but the nation and front of his own person, in front of his own family. in front of his own interests because that is what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on 8:00 eastern una. --q and a. >> now senator chris murphy holds a town hall. this is about one hour and a half....
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q&a, thet on comparisons between presidents donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book "andrew jackson, seven or." -- seven outehrner." >> he certainly represents some of the negative values jackson represented. i think i would tell president trump if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own family,od, his own nation in fr
q&a, thet on comparisons between presidents donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book "andrew jackson, seven or." -- seven outehrner." >> he certainly represents some of the negative values jackson represented. i think i would tell president trump if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own family,od, his own nation in fr
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. >> let's dig in more on andrew jackson and the civil war. here's what he said. and then we'll talk about it. >> i mean had andrew jackson been a little bit later he wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. and he was really angry that he saw what was happening with the regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize the civil war, if you think about it why? people don't ask that question. but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> is there anything in his record, in his history that shows he could have averted the civil war, andrew jackson? >> of course not. and it's been well talked about on your show even tonight. he's a slave owner. the trail of tears is known as probably the most brutal act of extermination of native people. native people weren't treated well in america, period, but andrew jackson -- i'm not suggesting we don't study his presidency correctly, but this is not an education lesson. i have to teach history. high school teachers are
. >> let's dig in more on andrew jackson and the civil war. here's what he said. and then we'll talk about it. >> i mean had andrew jackson been a little bit later he wouldn't have had the civil war. he was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. and he was really angry that he saw what was happening with the regard to the civil war. he said there's no reason for this. people don't realize the civil war, if you think about it why? people don't ask that question. but why was...
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why does he like andrew jackson? because at some point he was on some shag rug floor and he likes davey crockett and likes that andrew jackson was full of pepper. that's what he knows about andrew jackson and as far as the civil war, the idea that people aren't quite sure how it went. does he know nothing about the fact that there's a whole wing of scholarships arguing over why there was a civil war and that certain conclusions have been come to? i mean, really, that kind of scholarship isn't covered in elementary or middle or even high school, but his idea that the civil war is unchartered territory, like some mystery about the moon landing, it means he didn't pay attention in school. he couldn't even pay attention in school. and now he's running the united states of america. >> well, and you said this is not about language, you're right, trump's unique perspective of the civil war reveals more than trump's lack of book smarts or interests of the inept in the african-american, rather, trump's ignorance about somethi
why does he like andrew jackson? because at some point he was on some shag rug floor and he likes davey crockett and likes that andrew jackson was full of pepper. that's what he knows about andrew jackson and as far as the civil war, the idea that people aren't quite sure how it went. does he know nothing about the fact that there's a whole wing of scholarships arguing over why there was a civil war and that certain conclusions have been come to? i mean, really, that kind of scholarship isn't...
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q&a, the on comparisons between presidents donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book "andrew jackson: southerner." >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he represents the negative values that jackson represented. i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put nation in front of his own personhood and his own family and his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night on c-span's q&a. sunday night on afterw ords, the business side of health care in "an american sickness: how health care became big business and how you can take it back." she's interviewed by dr. david blumenthal. >> was wondering if your book give you any thoughts about whether health care is a free market. whether we can solve our problems in health care through free-market forces. >> i think what we've seen is the answer is probably not. , ithe beginning of the book put a tongue-in-cheek list of the economic rules in the dysfunctional health care market. if you thi
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that if he wants to be like andrew jackson has to put nation in front of his own personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family, has to put nation front of his own it should because that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a. >> secretary of state rex tillerson spoke to employees at the state department headquarters last week. he didn't mention the trump administration blade to cut almost 10% of the state department workforce. >> ladies and gentlemen,, the secretary of state. [applause] >> good morning. thank you. thank you. are we on? can you all hear me back there in the back? can you hear me now? [laughing] can you hear me now? >> yes. >> all right. i told them i have to walk around. my wife has always said if you tied my hands down to my side, i would be a complete mute. so i'm not great at podiums. i do know how to read a speech, but i thought today we'd just have a chat. so i've been here about three months now, we've been working alongside one another, and so i thought it'd be worthwhile to just share a few o
that if he wants to be like andrew jackson has to put nation in front of his own personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family, has to put nation front of his own it should because that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a. >> secretary of state rex tillerson spoke to employees at the state department headquarters last week. he didn't mention the trump administration blade to cut almost 10% of the state...
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the president speaking about his admiration for president andrew jackson. saying jackson would have been able to prevent the civil war. there were questions about this. let's listen. >> had andrew jackson been a little later you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> jon, some historians are scratching their heads over this. >> well, it's unclear how andrew jackson would have prevented the civil war if he had been alive. he actually died 16 years before the civil war started. on the one hand, he was a strong advocate of the union. on the other hand, he was a southerner and david, he was an unapologetic slave owner. >> jon, thank you. >>> meantime, tonight, the new effort to repeal and replace obamacare. republicans hoping for a new vote this week. among the big questions, even as the president says pre-existing conditions will be covered, will this new
the president speaking about his admiration for president andrew jackson. saying jackson would have been able to prevent the civil war. there were questions about this. let's listen. >> had andrew jackson been a little later you wouldn't have had the civil war. he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. think about it, why? people don't ask that question, but why was there the civil war? why could that one not have been worked out? >> jon, some...
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. >> sunday on q&a, the comparisons between presidents donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book andrew jackson, seven or. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represent of the negatives that jackson represented but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson has to put nation in front of his own personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family, has to put nation front of his own it should because that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> sunday night at eight eastern on c-span's q&a. >> secretary of state rex tillerson spoke to employees at the state department headquarters last week. he didn't mention the trump administration blade to cut almost 10% of the state department workforce. >> ladies and gentlemen,, the secretary
. >> sunday on q&a, the comparisons between presidents donald trump and andrew jackson. our guest on his book andrew jackson, seven or. >> i don't think he represents the positive values that jackson represented. he certainly represent of the negatives that jackson represented but i think i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson has to put nation in front of his own personhood, has to put nation in front of his own family, has to put nation front...
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. >> tonight on q&a, the comparisons between donald trump and andrew jackson. , "andrew has a book jackson: seven or." >> he represents some of the negative values jackson represented. i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put the nation in front of his own personhood, in front of his own family, in front of his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on q&a. c-span's q&a. >> join washington journal on monday as we visit the offices organization start up and hear from their editors and reporters on the news of the day. joining us will be the cofounder jonathan swann, national political reporter, and kate linda owens, health care reporter. and mike allen, caps on -- cofounder of axios and executive editor. live, monday morning, starting at 8 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> now, a senate intelligence committee hearing on global
. >> tonight on q&a, the comparisons between donald trump and andrew jackson. , "andrew has a book jackson: seven or." >> he represents some of the negative values jackson represented. i would tell president trump that if he wants to be like andrew jackson, he has to put the nation in front of his own personhood, in front of his own family, in front of his own interests. that's what jackson did for most of his presidency. >> tonight on q&a. c-span's q&a....
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under the andrew jackson point, we could use more discussion of the war of 1812. hick try, jackson was controversial because of how he dealt with the native americans. so it is intriguing to see him citing andrew jackson. >> the health care bill that you just mentioned, has it optional for the states to choose whether they're going to cover preexisting conditions, allowing some states to hike up the premiums for those who do have preexisting conditions. was the president upnaware of that or has something changed? >> based on my reporting, the president has not been deeply involved in the revival of health care talks. it's been the vice president, the freedom caucus in the tuesday group. it was somewhat startling to see the president wasn't fully familiar with these details, to be sure. >> jonathan, let's talk about the budget. it doesn't githere's no money f the wall. can the white house say we're going to get more defense spending, which is what we wanted, and that goes to the border for immigration spending essentially. that this is just the first part in a long
under the andrew jackson point, we could use more discussion of the war of 1812. hick try, jackson was controversial because of how he dealt with the native americans. so it is intriguing to see him citing andrew jackson. >> the health care bill that you just mentioned, has it optional for the states to choose whether they're going to cover preexisting conditions, allowing some states to hike up the premiums for those who do have preexisting conditions. was the president upnaware of that...