. >> i am a dog, and i don't take no shorts, stangel. >> i know, bang first and questions later. >> you know how it goes? >> yes, i do. and you know that you have the whole system down pat. >> not the whole system, but maybe 90%. >> 90%, yeah, man. yeah. >> hold on one second. >> go, sir. >> i want to be a c.o. when i leave here. i will be paid a lot of money. >> 3134 in a few minutes. >> and coming up, nick bubanas is leaving for a court date that will determine his future. >> and the odds are stacked against me, and i want to do something different, but it is just tough. >> new problems for david peters. >> did you start this fight? >> no. >> but you did finish it. >>> like many of the 2400 inmates in boston's suffolk county jail, nick bubanas admits that his life has not been as successful as he once hoped for. but he thinks that he may have discovered one of life's secrets. >> i figured out for girls you go to the left ax and if you want a boy, you go over to the right, and that is how you make the babies, and left for the girls and right for the boys, right? >> bubanas' four-month-

let's bring in our guest, former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs, rick stangel, who also happens to be former managing editor of "time" magazine, and our friend, historian, and pulitzer prize winning author john meacham comes back on the broadcast with us. gentlemen, welcome back to both of you. john, i'll begin with you. major garrett is a good guy and a solid journalist and was not being facetious when he said, do we have to wait for the president's pronouncement? you and i have talked before about this president, who lacks a baseline of history in the presidency that politicians with their eyes on this prize all their lives have. it's nobody's fault. he came from a different world. is that also -- does that translate into not knowing that there are certain rules, mores, and laws that sometimes govern your comments? >> well, president trump is like all of us to some extent a prisoner of his own experience. this is a man who, it's been reported, actually pretended to be his own spokesman in the tabloid years. >> john miller. >> john miller and john baron. so i

former yurnd secretary for public affairs rick stangel, shelby holiday from "the wall street journal" and nick from the "the new york times." nick, i want to share what sean spicer said back in march specifically about jared kushner's role. take a look. >> throughout the campaign and the transition jared served as the official primary point of contact with foreign governments and officials until we had state department officials up. you're acting as though there's something nefarious about doing what he was tasked to do. >> doing what he was actually tasked to do. jared kushner has been tasked with leading the office of innovation, peace in the middle east and leading all things between the u.s. and china. he's tasked with a lot. but jared's job is to talk with foreign governments. now that he's part of this fbi inquiry, can he conduct his day job? >> well, he has a lot of conflicts like everybody in the trump allah gar ki orbit. i know that i'm going to escape answering your question. now that there's an investigation we should let the investigation take its course. but the idea that