>> that's bob mueller's job to sort that out. >> that's bob mueller's job to sort that out. the special counsel will work to understand whether the obstruction intent was there, whether that's an offense. so that's the first obvious reason we believe that the special counsel, bob mueller is now investigating whether anyone potentiay including the president might have tried to obstruct justice in the russia investigation. first reason is bluntly because james comey said so yesterday under oath, twice. the other reason we believe the special counsel bob mueller is investigating whether there was an obstruction of justice is because of this. >> so you didn't consider your memo or your sense of that conversation to be a government document. you consider it to be somehow your own personal document that you could share with the media as you wanted to? >> correct. i understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president as a private citizen. i felt free to share that. i felt very important to get that out. >> so were all of your memos that you recorded

bob: i do, yes. erik: have we reached a point where opec together with its partners is beginning to take more control over global oil price for his this really just a temporary situation? bob: the swing producer -- is at the saudi arabia or shale, shale , but iicularly healthy think this is not a question that has been answered yet by the markets. one of the countries -- can decision impact reduction very quickly and same with the market levels. i would have to talk to the opec ministers, but i think they don't want shock. erik: clearly that is one of the things they are trying to avoid. i don't need to tell this to you, it is more for everyone else, shale has become a swing producer but the cost continues to crater. bob: they are coming down. there's also a lot of companies that are not generating cash. i don't see the cash going back to the shareholders, so the economic model is not crystal clear to everybody either. erik: let me ask you this question is that being the case, $50. assume wti fetches

sarah sanders confirmed today on air force one that he interviewed bob mueller the day before bob mueller was appointed as special counsel. >> i want to read another quote from this piece tonight. in recent days, the president has told his staff, his visitors, and his outside advisers that he was increasingly convinced that mr. mueller, like mr. comey, his successor at the fbi, was part of a witch hunt of partisans who wanted to see him weakened or forced from office. david rohde, what do you think of that? >> it's the same sense in the white house that they're under siege. i understand their frustration. this continues to dominate the news. >> mueller was appointed by trump's deputy ag. how is that a witch hunt? >> i think mueller has nothing to lose. he's a decorated combat veteran, served in vietnam, oversaw prosecutions of john gotti and manuel noriega. he believes in the rule of law. mueller will carry this out very thoroughly but also very slowly. i don't think this tactic is going to work. i think it hurts president trump. i think he should let this investigation go forward. talk a

i agree with bob. i think what chairman blackburn was doing was putting in legislation with the fcc. i think it is an appropriate inquiry whether all web browsing history should be sensitive information or whether web browsing history on particular topics, like personal finances, your kids, and things that the ftc had previously deemed to be sensitive information. i'm going to say that i agree with bob. this is a draft of the legislation. we will see how it plays out. but i think the discussion of whether all web browsing history belongs in the sensitive information category, or whether just certain web browsing history belongs in that category will be something that there could be a discussion about during the consideration of her bill. >> the groups that were out doing back flips over the fcc taking that position with respect to the isp's are either silent or opposing chairwoman blackburn's bill on the same topic when she takes that rule and applies it to the entire industry, which i find it -- which

that's not bob mueller. never been bob mueller. doesn't bake any sensmake any s. republican appointee. a law enforcement person. more importantly, it's the first inning, literally the first day this has been publicly documented. i don't know if anyone has any idea where it goes. it could ultimately help donald trump if a respectable person clears him of charges and say it's time to move on or could hurt him in other ways. either way, this is a guy who ran on law and order and supporting the cops. ma what do you think the fbi is? federal cops. they are the people who enforce the laws and risk their lives. we're here coming off a day when we talked about the capitol police, the lives they risk. that's what we're talking about. if you believe the woest woet repo blank blank woe "washington post" paper. started looking as obstruction as a factual matter before bob mueller came in the room. at a certain point, yes, he is fair game in the sense that it's lawful to talk about it. and i fully expect the president's lawyers to do that. but if you talk about the wider ambit

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bob mueller's investigation is only getting started. the only thing that has changed is the president is attacking bob mueller. and therefore, newt gingrich is attacking bob mueller. members of congress on both sides of the aisle find mr. mueller to be someone of bravery and courage who served his country with bravery in vietnam, who served both parties. >> let's talk about the democrats he was talking about. congressman. is that a point? if he's got democrats in there, if he's got people who have given to clinton and other democrats? >> no, i think anyone who knows bob mueller knows he is choosing the best people to serve on the investigative team. people with experience in the issues he wants to investigate and believes need to be investigated. as you and pierre pointed out, he can't go through f.e.c. filings to determine if he should or shouldn't hire people. he's picking the best people. members of congress have confidence in that. what's happening here, the president wants to take down bob mueller. his lawyer wants to take down bob

to pick bob mueller, to stand by bob mueller. it is, i hate to use the word stunning, but it is stunning to see republicans diss bob mueller. >> i think so. especially when bob mueller in my opinion is the best solution for the white house and this -- this problem, the problem of the investigation. what you need now is clarity, credibility and closure. that's what you need out of this investigation. bob mueller is the best chance of that. he's independent -- >> why don't they understand that? >> because they see every move as a political machination that's intended to undermine. instead of seeing this as an opportunity to say bob mueller should bring together the best legal minds to figure out if there are any criminal charges, and frankly, if there are not, then to lay this clarity and claim in the cloud shall as the president said, over the administration out of the way. what's so debilitating here is the suspicion around this case. >> he has assembled a dream team. i think we have some of their names up here. kasie hunt, talk

he appointed bob mueller as the special counsel. rod does retain supervisory authority over what the special counsel does. but there's a lot of transparency around that. if rod decides that he disagrees with any of the acts or the direction that the special counsel takes or wants to take, he can object. but he has to report to congress his objection. if he disagrees with bob mueller, there will be a lot of transparency around it and we'll all know. >> do you think he's willing to give bob mueller as much independence as possible? what's his style, based on what you know about rosenstein? >> rod is a career prosecutor, a career department of justice person. he has somebody who has served in republican administrations, democratic administrations. he's a straight shooter. i have confidence in rod in this role. >> you know bob mueller from his time in san francisco in the fbi. >> he was the united states attorney in san francisco. he hired me, and i was his white collar chief when he was hire. >> and you also know chris ray w wray who h

but bob mule per knows what that line is. if he continues to cling on to itn the face of this controversy he will ha to answer serious questions mr. jarett raises in his article. charles: who will ask these questions? if they won't ask them of themselves. who gets to ask these questions. how does this ultimately get resolved. can we get some sort of conclusion quickly? >> i think two things will happen. rod rosenstein has to call up bob mule per and say you have to tell me more about your relationship with james comey and give me a chronological -- what have you done together, how often do you see each other. and i expect somebody will follow up on the complaint. charles: i want to bring in our

i said hi, this is bob redford calling. he said, yeah. and i said, i wanted to know if i could meet and you your partner because i have this idea i want to share with you. >> woodward came to me and said that redford had called. and i put together who redford was. and was interested in talking to us or whatever. i said we're busy, we've got to do this story. >> for woodward and bernstein it wasn't only that the break-in seemed fishy. there was something just as odd about the white house response. >> presidential press secretary ron ziegler called it a third raitt burglary attempt. >> ron ziegler calling it a third-rate burglary, that was the tipoff to us. there seemed to be nothing third-rate about it except they got caught. >> they raised the stakes so high. with this third-rate burglary nonsense. it was apparent that something here was really rotten. nixon assigned his top lieutenants the president's men the task of managing the fallout from the break-in. among them chief of staff bob haldeman and presidential adviser john ehrlichman wo

we stand by all our stories that we've written on this matter. >> rose: bob woodward -- bob woodward of the "the washington post" complimented the "new york times" as well as "the washington post" for the coverage of this story. but bob pointed out that, in terms of the russian probe, we are hardly 10% in understanding what actually happened. would you share that? >> no, i think that's true, and i think that's something that the public haas to keep in mind here. last week, mark warner, the ranking member on the senate intelligence committee, went on tv and basically said there is a lot of smoke here but we don't really have fire. so here we are session will you into the investigation and this leading democrat who's leading one of the investigations into it says there's a lot of smoke here but we haven't found actual collusion, and that's something really to keep in mind as we go forward. a collusion investigation is very difficult. it will require the f.b.i. and department of justice being on the ground in russia and doing interviews and we know that's certainly not going to happen,

joining me now senator -- and b bob bower. bob, in my experience, people that served as white house tend to be executive power maximalists. i wonder if you think it's fine for someone who serves in an administration to sort of proactively not answer on the off chance that privilege might be invoked over those conversations? >> i don't think it was inadvertent. i think this was a quite deliberate strategy to not have the president invoke executive privilege, which would have been highly controversial, but in effect have attorney general sessions come to the same place. he didn't alert the committee that this was an issue. he came prepared to argue this vague confidentiality concern that was linked to executive privilege but not at all clear. i think it got him out of the immediate problem of having the president stand on the privilege, which would have been of course major news and very controversial. >> did you ever send someone out or have consultations when you were in the white house in which you outlined a similar approach

bob: it would. the problem with those broader associations are they have so many constituent members, it's hard to get them to all agree at once. there's no doubt that if something could be crafted there, it would be very positive. everyone hopes for soft brexit. when you sit there and try to work through how it could occur come it doesn't seem realistic at this point. jon: tina fordham joins us now on the phone. we are talking about what a soft brexit could mean, what kind of scenarios we could see. what kind of scenarios do you envision? i think, first of all, we have to appreciate that these terms are being thrown around and even the british public isn't very clear on what they mean. , davidson won a lot of seats on open brexit. by that, she met a focus on jobs and the economy. soft brexit, hard brexit come starts tot, it all sound semi-pornographic. outcomeimportant in the of last week's election here in the u.k. is that nobody understands what the will of the british people is. there's no longe

bob: i do. erik: have we reached the point that opec, together with its partners, is beginning to take more control over the global oil price, or is this really a temporary situation? bob: shale is big. who is the swing producer, saudi arabia or the shales? the shales are particularly healthy, especially in the permian. i think this is not a question that's been answered yet by the markets. can one decision impact production very quickly and change the market levels? i think they also don't want any sharp shocks. erik: clearly, that's one of the things they are trying to avoid. shale has become the swing producer because costs, particularly in the permian, continue to crater. bob: they are coming down. there's also a lot of companies that aren't generating cash. i don't see the cash coming back to the shareholders. it's an economic model that is not crystal clear to anyone either. touchest's assume wti $50. how much longer can those "zombie producers" continue to pump? bob: the permian basis is

bob: there isn't any downside. the wordtart to use downside, no one will believe them, because there is it any. i think they have to use the word balance. i think they are concerned. in had a clear message recent months that yes, they are comfortable that the eurozone economy is accelerated. they're not worried about the downturn in inflation we just riven by the downturn in commodity prices, particularly oil. i think they will revise their inflation forecast to her projection in 2017 of around 1.5%. so you almost have a goldilocks scenario. what mario draghi is sensitive to doing is he doesn't want to send a message that they're going to tighten monetary policy sooner rather than later. the big concern is that they send that message, that might reverse the eurozone acceleration and they want to nurture this improvement and therefore any change of monetary policy is delayed until the end of the year. and they might be afraid of a strengthening in the euro, perhaps. this is pointing to a model that deutsche bank has

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newt gingrich liked bob mueller. paul ryan defended bob mueller this morning on hugh hewitt's talk show. >> i think you had republicans writ large came out when bob mueller was appointed to the special counsel saying this is the guy for the job, this is the professional who will take it out of this kind of combat political back and forth of partisanship. now you're seeing in the last five days or so where republican, kind of grass-roots, the ann coulters of the world saying, no, bob mueller is no longer qualified. he is tainted. he is best friends with comey and they're trying to cast aspersions on this. newt gingrich came out this morning, kind of re-casting his statement once again saying he has talked to the president and he doesn't believe he'll actually fire him. >> we have the sound bite from this morning. talking about all this. take a listen. >> you think the president is considering firing robert mueller? >> no. absolutely not. >> why don't you think that? >> i think the president is pretty confident that ul

it's a rare moment because it's a rare moment where bob lutz is wrong and where i disagree with bob lutz. a national treasure, great industrial icon and i just can't believe i'm hearing what he just said. pick up any newspaper or any phone call, ask over and see his neighbor, bill ford or mary barra. this is a west coast conspiracy, bob, what are you talking about? the financial committee lloyd blankenfein making movies? i don't think so. bob, i don't think so. i don't know what you're talking about. jeff immelt of ge? this is not some west coast movie conspiracy, bob. this is -- bill george got it right. by the way, bill george making medical devices, again, not making movies. to have this widespread agreement. there was not this widespread agreement about the affordable care act. i know firsthand, the business round table was split on all those other issues. in this particular case they're as close to unanimty. state by state, every state in the nation supports this accord. yes, even texas and west virginia. and, in fact, across the nation it's 7-1 support it. of course, democrats it's

bob mueller is a former director of the fbi. i think until the last 48 hours no one had really questioned his fairness, much less his competence to undertake an investigation like this. look, what we are seeing is a locking of arms among republicans in congress, and more broadly in the coalition around the president. as we said earlier, i have not heard any member of congress say they dispute james comey's versions of events, in other words, that president trump is correct when he says i didn't say any of the things that former fbi director comey allege. they're saying even if he did it's no big deal, it isn't a problem. there are many former prosecutors and legal scholars on the other side of that who argue it provides the basis to begin an investigation into obstruction of justice but this is the argument that republicans are making, and again, i think it is very unlikely that they will move in any way against the president unless a special counsel report utterly forces them to, and we are still a long way from him determining

ken: bob woodward, look what bob woodward said about the way the media is acting now. where is the objectivity? i haven't seen one headline on the front page. when i read "the new york times" which is less frequent than i used, to the headlines on the front are more rather an objective statement of fact, they're subjective. maria: nasty. ken: like the editorial page. maria: you're right. what do you think is going to happen? i had ron desantis on from the freedom caucus, congressman desantis on friday, last week, he said we're going to get tax reform done. do you believe it? do you think we'll get tax reform done? and what are the implications of it. ken: they're going to claim to get tax reform done. maria: maybe tax cuts. ken: the opportunity to do something meaningful, that could be a sea change, they're going to blow it. and this is a great opportunity, and let's start with where we need to address first in my opinion, the little guy. forget about me. maria: the small business owner? ken: the small business owner. maria: and the individual. ken: the individual last

the talk about firing bob mueller, what's being missed is what has bob mueller done other than hire assistants. that's how crazy what is going on right now. if we're talking about firing bob mueller because he hired an assistant that looks optically bad. it's insane. the one last point, there is now on the far right the allegation that there's some sort of deep state conspiracy between president obama, bob mueller and james comey. and there's a photo going around from june 21st, 2013, in the oval office of the three of them together and you know what happened that day, it was the day that the president or president obama nominated james comey to succeed bob mueller. a standard photo op but that's the proof of the conspiracy. the salem witch trials were built on more evidence than that. >> extraordinary time and we have a quick programming note. chris ruddy will be live at noon with kristen welker filling in for andrea mitchell. we will find out what he says he heard whether it was from the president or someone close to the president around his intentions around robert mueller. the other big st

bob laid it out pretty well. bob you can join me after i finish it. let me set it up in a general sense. what you're looking for, you'll have the air traffic control responsibilities which is part of the faa right now pulled out of the faa, it will be a separate -- it will be a private entity so to speak but you'll have a 13 member board that will oversee all of the air traffic control operations. they will be able to be in charge of manage what the equipment is that needs be put into not only different airports but the airlines as well. a number of these aircraft already have the updated equipment. but that's the key here and for the flying public the idea is that you should have a more efficient operation not only in terms of adding technology but easing congestion and ultimately that would, should in theory mean you'll have fewer delays, especially in your bigger congested areas like new york, los angeles, dallas at times, chicago, and ultimately the system will run smoother. bob, would you agree? >> yes, absolutely. i think all of those things are

and now we see paid hacks on the other side going after bob mueller. >> yeah. in fact, it was newt gingrich who said they probably could and should fire bob mueller. so this act is complicated and it was changed in 1999. >> the act of kree creating a sl counsel? >> after ken starr. there was a sense that if you give someone too much independence, there's no accountability. and there has to be a way for someone to be accountable to someone after ken starr. so they came up with this compromised solution, which is that the president can actually fire mueller and ken starr could not be fired at that point so i think they were looking for a middle ground here. the question is, that nobody can answer, nothing is perfect here. would it be a great solution for the president of the united states to ask rod rosenstein, who would then resign, so ask somebody else, to fire the independent counsel? no. but can he do it? absolutely. >> all of these structures, independent counsel, are designed, at least in a general way, to try to take politics out and make people independen

and bob will be last. i just want to remind you, for those of you who weren't here in the beginning that we do have a twitle ha twitter handle. it is on your brochure. so feel free to tweet if you would like. bob? >> is there a reason why you did the twitter thing right before i spoke? >> i've heard that you are a tweeter. >> well, thanks, randy. thanks for inviting me here. for the record, i'm not as old as either of these two guys. but, you know, all the good things have been said. i can't -- i couldn't agree more with -- with the focus of meredith and david and kim on deployment and adoption. i agree with blare, consolidation is going to be on everyone's mind. it's certainly in virtually every news story that comes out in this space, and i think it is going to dominate the press for a while. but the area that i would go to, and it really kind of echoes the comments that meredith made about 5g. i mean, the way that we create jobs in the telecommunications space is we dig up streets. and when meredith tal

>> they're trying to undermine bob mueller. i don't think that that's necessarily, kate, about firing bob mueller. >> okay. >> donald trump has done a lot of things i could have never predicted. to me, firing bob mueller is so obviously political suicide, he won't -- even donald trump would not take that gamble. but what i do think newt gingrich and others are getting at here is an attempt to say, no matter what bob mueller finds out -- well, i mean, of course he found that out! look, he put a couple lawyers who loved hillary clinton on his staff. well, of course, they arrived at "x" conclusion. i actually think it's more about a long-term campaign to undermine the conclusions that mueller's special counsel investigation finds, assuming those are not terribly favorable for donald trump. then it's about running him out of town, because newt gingrich is a smart political strategist. he is not dumb. he did not engineer the takeover of the house in 1994 by being dumb. what he knows is that getting rid of bob mueller today wreaks, a