general stanley mcchrystal is former commander of all u.s. and international forces in afghanistan and a senior fellow with yale university. chris russell is here, former navy s.e.a.l. officer who served alongside general mcchrystal as managing partner. and author of "one mission: how leaders build a team of teams" and general mcchrystal was kind enough to write the forward. i was not invited to write the forward. thank you so much for coming in. i want to get to the book in just one second. on the news of the day, on the claims from russia that they say they may have taken out al baghdadi, there's clearly a lot of skepticism, general. do you believe the russians on this? >> well, i don't know if it's true. it almost doesn't matter. it's important to take out a leader like al baghdadi, but it's not sufficient. it won't change isis demonstrably. isis is an idea that's franchised itself, and so it's a little bit self-deception for any of us to suddenly celebrate and say, okay, now the problem will go away. >> but still a significant symbolic vi

but it seems to be as reading this book that general mcchrystal would argue on the individual tactical level what you just argued on the strategic level. is that a fair reading of his experience? >> guest: yes, and it's a great example. and i have to say i wanted to write this book in 2011 right after i came out of government and i taught a course called making networks work and the collected all this material and even writing about networks for decades. and then i wrote an article in the atlantic about working family and kind of -- >> host: missed about one. >> guest: while i was working on issues of women and men and work, there came stan mcchrystal book team of teams. i was so spoiled because he describes exactly the in charge of special forces in iraq, and he's got to fight al qaeda in iraq. he opens with this description of an attack and then very quickly the people involved figure out what happened and reconfigure and repair the damage to their network, and then go on. and you are reading it you think he's describing our special forces. he's not. he described al qaeda in iraq and

it seems to me in reading this book that general mcchrystal would argue on the individual tactical level what you just argued on the interstate strategic level. is that a fair reading of his experience? >> yes. it's a great example. i wanted to write this book in 2011 after it came out of government. we taught a course called making networks work and i have been writing about networks for decades. i wrote an article in the atlantic about a working family and it got knocked in a different direction. while i was working on issues of women and men and work, their k the book, a team of teams. i was thrilled because he describes being in charge of special forces in iraq. he has to fight al qaeda in iraq and he opens with this description of an attack in the very quickly the people involved figure out what happened and reconfigure and repair the damage to their network and then go on. you are reading it and you think he is describing our special forces, he's not. she's describing al qaeda and iraq and send that kind of flexibility, adaptability and nimbleness was characteristic of the al qaeda

and while i was working on issues of women and men and work, there came mcchrystal's book team of teams. i was thrilled because he describes exactly being in charge of special forces in iraq and he has got to fight al qaeda in iraq. and he opens with this description of an attack and then very quickly the people involved figure out what happened and reconfigure and repair the damage to their network and then go on. and you're reading this and you think he is describing our special forces. he's not. he is describing al qaeda in iraq. he is saying that kind of stability and adaptability and nimbleness was characteristic of the al qaeda in iraq network. we cannot match it. because even though our special forces is the most nimble part of our military, we were too hierarchal. at first we had a command of beings. he was on top and they're all these different groups. intelligent scripts and a logistics group and communications group and he figures out how to make that command into a team of teams. when he has got different groups. each one is connected to all the other groups but in ways that

later we'll have general stanley mcchrystal with us. we'll talk more about that. throughout the show, mika, we'll obviously be talking about yesterday what happened, the information coming out that robert mueller's investigation looking now at president trump. yet a series of tweets, three or four tweets yesterday attacking that investigation. newt gingrich inexplicably said things that he knows better about. it was stunning. yesterday was a day that you had a lot of smoke building up around the investigation. and then last night, a very interesting statement from rod rosenstein. >> shortly after 9:00, the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein released this statement, quote, americans should exercise caution before accepting atrue any stories fro anonymous officials, particularly when they don't identify the country let alone the branch. americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations. the department of justice has a long established policy to neither confirm or deny such allegations. >> mark, you're laugh iing. >> nothing controversial in that statemen

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they should be focusing on the big target to mcchrystal decides we can do that and saddam has shown that's not going to work so he looks for ways to ramp up their operations and does so very effectively. there were only 10 operations when he comes in 2004. think you was up to 300 and 2006. this is made possible by advances in communications technology and iraqi's are using cell phones and computers without a lot of thought given to the fact that they are being intercepted. a lot of people think at this scale we can in fact restore the insurgency. we also have on the white soft side which is another term that people sometimes get confused about that white soft or basically operators who are not part of jsoc so it's mainly special forces and navy s.e.a.l.s at this time. they also decide that they want to do this surgical strike precision. and go out and haul out the bad guys the middle of the night and move away from their more traditional role of working with local forces, local populations and will come under fire from a number within the community for taking them away from that. and so wh

general stanley mcchrystal, he said of his time in iraq, when you become the torturer, something happens. it has a corrosive effect over time. it chases you and changes you. the reason waterboarding was not done more than it was was because the interrogators did not want to do it. we agreed to do it to these people to stop catastrophic attacks. once we had enough information that we did not need to use it, we were not interested in it anymore. waterboarding is not the first or best choice. we went out of our way to avoid doing that. and so i think if you... you know? it is one thing to put people in cages and nail people to trees and crucify children and bury people and throw rocks at them. it is difficult to come back from that. was it for you? no. here's why — i relied on the department ofjustice. i am convinced that we did things in a way that did not produce permanent harm, mentally or physically. that is my obligation when i do get. i don't have any control over how people do it. you said you wondered about whether you should actually carry out these things that it would change yo

seven or thereabouts i was in new york talk radio convention talkers conference and general stanley mcchrystal was there is giving a speech and we talked for a while in the hall and i said you know what are we going to do or do we go with this and he said well we can't kill our way out of this or words to that effect that was ten years ago i mean you know and this was the guy in charge of afghanistan as i recall the time and. why has you know why has that message not. filtered through why why is what what break down is happening here in the united states that we're that we're trying to behave like the british empire in the nineteenth century but i think there are several things one is that as a country we often think we can solve every problem in other parts of the world and the reality is we can't this is not something where the u.s. just goes in and makes everything good i think the second problem is we're not really willing to deal with the external actors that are having an influence on this conflict right now it's fashionable in washington and to attack one part of the one country or iran

mcchrystal didn't. grant repeatedly declared that he would carry out any order whether he agreed with it or not if h. if you came up against in order that he could not in conscious of a, he would resign. left no such declarations, but i think his actions speak loudly that he harbored virtually identical senate about duty and about subordination. is neither had any evident ego getting in his way, although they had very human blood spots. -- blind spots. grant would never admit he had been surprised on the first day at shiloh. he was the only one who didn't admit it. it's probably something attributed to sherman, "surprised, hell no, we were astonished." lee will never admit that grant baffled him for 36 hours when he crossed the james. let me add a bit of dimension to the story of lee's final campaign toward appomattox. what is little known today in large part because i think a lot of the sources that we might've had went up in flames with richmond and also many of the people involved simply never spoke

also this morning, retired four star general stan mcchrystal and former navy seal chris bustle and talk to a writer. all will be in studio 57. all that plus the eye-opener, your world in 90 seconds. we'll see you at 7:00. >> thank you. >>> tesla is riding high. the company's shares are up nearly 75% this year. it's now worth $62 billion. that's more than general motors, ford, honda and bmw. in fact there are only 3 automakers with a higher market value, toyota, volkswagen and daimler. it's all good news for tesla's ceo, elon musk worth more than $17 billion. >>> despite tesla's success, the tech sector as a whole is in a bit of a slump. joining us now with details kcbs radio's financial reporter jason brooks. >> reporter: good morning. tesla is one of several big tech firms that have hit record highs for their stock in 2017. it could add apple to that, you can add google, netflix and facebook. and that's really had an impact on the stock market. leading the overall market higher and now we have profit- taking as a number of investors seem to think these prices are from they. tesla share

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folks we will all recognize from general breedlove to general breedlove to general petronius to general mcchrystal. we should keep that in mind as we review the presidential budget which i believe is shortsighted with regard to foreign assistance. i want to move to secretary mattis, something you said at your confirmation hearing in january. i asked you for your assessment of the key threats to vital interest and what irony level and you said the principal threat started with russia. you still view russia as a significant threat to the united states? sec. mattis: yes i do. >> can you walk me through how the budget initiatives this year can help counter those threats posed by russian? >> i think the reassurance initiative alone is designed with one target in mind, to dissuade russia from thinking this is the time when they want to test nato or the americans. terms also point out in of technology we are looking at specific technology that addresses some of the maturing threats they have here. space, underwater, that sort of thing. i think, too, that the investment in pre-positioned in equipment that

around this time we have general stanley mcchrystal coming in as a commander and the task force 714 that he sets up in iraq and at the time it was not particularly active and there were still a lot of people that fought the forces should not be giving the daily operations. they should focus on only the big targets. they decided that we cannot do that and it's not going to work so he looks for ways to ramp up operation and does so very effectively and we can see from here it was up to 300 in 2006 and this is made possible by the advances in communications technology. they are using cell phones and computers without a lot of thought as to the fact that they are getting intercepted. so quite impressive and a lot of people think that it is at this scale we cannot affect the insurgency. we also have another term people sometimes get confused about, but it's basically the operators that are not a part so it is mainly the special forces and navy seals at this time. they also decide that they want to do this and go out and hold down bad guys in the middle of the night and this is a move away fro