the north koreans know that. indeed the north koreans, for many years, it at least a couple years ago kept talking about essentially best, if the united states is our enemy, u.s. troops in south korea are a threat to us and have to go. but if the united states is no longer an enemy those troops are no longer a threat to us. and they can stay. and indeed, the north koreans on numerous occasions, the last of them couple of years ago talked about the u.s. a bridge too far north korea being allies. you can have two allies, you can be allied to south korea and to us. they were looking for formulation to change the relationship. that's what this is about. in a world in which the relationship is changed it is possible to imagine, i'm not saying it's likely, but it's possible to imagine the north koreans, down a long road will become convinced we are no longer there enemy and they don't need nuclear weapons to protect themselves. i don't think there is a sign we can get there now because of our politics and because of th

rather than the north koreans. and i think ultimately, unless we get more real about what's happening, then we are just on a collision course with a north korean nuclear weapons armed, icbm-capable posture for the rest of our lives. do you agree with that, mr. sigal? >> i agree with that, but i think what you said earlier is just as important, which is you have to open the way to negotiations. >> exactly. >> that's the key. >> exactly. and not on our terms but actually talks about talks to get them to stop. in a circumstance in which they have suspended their testing and their fissile material production that period is much more secure. we want to prolong that suspension as much as possible and go beyond it to get them to dismantle the facilities they have for producing more missiles. and then ultimately get the weapons. the weapons will come last. they're going to come down a very long road because they need to be assured the relationship has changed. that's the structure of the deal that at least is remotely poss

korean —— north korea a nalysts to most north korean —— north korea analysts to see how that can come out on less you have big carrot or a bigger stick to offer to north korea. for more on the response to the missile test, as well as coverage of all our other main stories, head along to our website bbc.com/news. you can also download the bbc news app. bbc news has spoken to a man in afghanistan who claims british special forces unlawfully killed members of his family. the bbc understand the royal military police are investigating the alleged incident back in 2011. a british newspaper has alleged that members of the sas have killed unarmed afghan civilians and falsified mission reports to cover up the evidence. 0ur defence correspondent jonathan beale's report contains some flashing images. this is the war that many will remember from afghanistan. british troops in helmand fighting an insurgency. but what we didn't see were the secret raids that often took place at night involving british special forces such as the sas. there are now allegations that in some of these raids innocent civ

the nature of the north korean regime is clear. only the skill of the damage it does could become different. that's why yesterdays escalation is so alarming. if north korea will treat an innocent young student the way it treated otto warmbier, we should not be surprised if it acts barbaric way on a larger scale. the united states does not seek conflict. in fact, we seek to avoid it. we seek only the people -- denuclearization of the korean peninsula and the end of the threatening action by north korea. regrettably, when witnessing just the opposite. make no mistake, north korea's launch of an icbm is a clear and sharp military escalation. the north korean regime openly states that its missiles are intended to deliver nuclear weapons to strike cities in the united states, south korea and japan. and now it has greater capacity to do so. in truth it is not only the united states and our allies that are threatened. north korea's destabilizing escalation is a threat to all nations in the region and beyond. their actions are quickly clos

. >> the era of strategic patience with the north korean regime has failed. many years, and it's failed. and frankly, that patience is over. we're working closely with south korea and japan, as well as partners around the world, on a range of diplomatic security and economic measures to protect our allies and our own citizens from this menace known as north korea. >> brangham: the government of kim jong-un has already test-launched more than a dozen missiles this year, all in defiance of international sanctions. president moon has long advocated for diplomatic engagement with pyongyang. and, since taking office last month, he's delayed full deployment of the u.s. "thaaad" anti-missile defense system. today, though, he, warned of a "stern response" to any provocations. >> ( translated ): the north korean nuclear issue must be resolved, without fail. i also urge pyongyang to promptly return to the negotiating table for denuclearization of the korean peninsula. president trump and i decided to will employ both sanctions and dialogue in a phased and comprehensive

koreans. >> yet, the question north koreans. >> go ahead. >> yeah. i say we need to engage in, sit down and have negotiations without preconditions. that doesn't mean we'll arrive at agreement with them, but able to freeze their program now that is to say no missile tests no nuclear tests which is something we did accomplish in the 1990s under something called the agreed framework, if we were able to freeze those tests and their program would not progress. now, i wouldn't get rid of the program, but at least a freeze would stop it from getting more capable and more of a threat every day. so i think negotiation has to be part of it. obviously working with the chinese, but i don't think the chinese will cooperate with us if we attack them, ridicule them and sanction them. we need to think how that that a little better. >> interesting you suggest negotiations, given that south korea, we know in recent weeks, has been repeatedly asking, reaching out to north korea if they're willing to talk and it appears north korea is simply ignoring that gesture. why?

by the north koreans. just within this hour, the secretary of state has released a statement, saying, in part, "global actions to solve a global threat. aiding and abetting a dangerous regime. all nations should publicly demonstrate to north korea that there are consequences to their pursuit of nuclear weapons and n we attempt toor bring north korea's provocative actions before the u.n. security council." take a look at where the icbm traveled. it was a splash down about 480 miles away but believed that the missile, two-stage midsole, could reach alaska. that's the big question, about whether north korea has been able to miniaturize its nuclear weapons to put it on the tip of one of these missiles and this has changed the dynamic because this icbm could reach the united states. just within the past hour, in this show, the u.s. announced their joint exercises ongoing with the south koreans. to test what they are calling the army tactical missile system. in response to this. this is ongoing. we expect to hav

korean detectivor kim jong-un had -- north korean dictator kim jong-un had not worked. he said, at least i know tried. here's kim jong-un's message. >> our respective leader, kim jong-un, with the broad smile on his face, told officials, scientists, and technicians, that the u.s. would be unhappy to witness north korea's strategic option on its independence day, and calling on them to frequently send big and small gift packages to the american ambassadors. > >> john: those gifts apparently references to missiles. north korea's missile test came hours before july 4th celebrations here in the u.s. experts say the weapon marks a major milestone for the regime, using a new kind of ballistic missile engine. it's not a pair of soviet engines together, it's the real thing. most experts say north korea is still several years away from developing a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on the end of a long-range missile. we have team fox coverage of the north korean launch. jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. rich edison is live at the state department. first let's go to ric

bob the north korean north the north korean dictatorship has no regard for you dictatorship has no regard for and the safety and security of its people or its neighbors and and has no respect for human life. and that's been proven over and over again. millions of north korea's own youmillions of north korea's own citizens have suffered and as a starved to death. you and the entire world just are witnessed what the regime in power did to our wonderful otto warmbier. warm and i thank president moon for expressing his condolences know what you on the travesty of otto's death. a our thoughts and prayers remain with his wonderful family. you the year of strategic patience, with the north korean regime, has failed. many years and it's failed. bravely and frankly, that patience is over. we're working closely with south you korea and japan, as well as and will partners around the will partners around the you world, on a range of diplomatic, and security and economic measures to protect our allies and our own citizens from this menace known as north korea. known as a menace known as north korea. u

bad actions to support the north koreans. neil: all right. wild stuff but it is getting -- tony shaffer, thank you very, very much. >> thanks, neil. neil: if the markets are at all rattled by this, they have a funny way showing it. we're down 27 points right now. not much movement. if this escalates even into a potential trade war with the chinese that could very, very quickly change. that is why the president is so focused on tweets that have to do with this sort of stuff. what does that tell you? after this. neil: i always get this if i criticize the president on tweets that fear vair from issues. a lot of never trump per crowds say you're a never trumper on steroids. i'm not against tweets. stick on topic. don't criticize anchor teams and lifting their ratings, last thing you want to do. stick to the subject. so when he does in a serious of tweets we'll show them talks about things near and dear to his economic agenda, good for him. on getting tough with the north koreans and chinese, good for him. a lot better than railin

the north korean leader is said to have described the missile test as a gift to americans on independence day. the un security council will discuss the crisis on wednesday. this from our diplomatic correspondent james landale. this is the moment that north korea says it became a major power, the launch of a missile that it claims can reach across continents and deliver a nuclear weapon as far away as the united states. the news was announced on state television with barely—constrained jov- the presenter showing the handwritten order given by the country's leader, kim jong—un. he personally supervised the launch of a missile that he believes will secure him in power, protect his people and dismay his opponents to the south. translation: if north korea ignores our military‘s warning and continues provocations, we clearly warn that kim jong—un‘s regime will face destruction. this is the missile that could carry the regime's nuclear weapon. described as a hwansong14, it was launched from an airfield here in the west of the country. it was sent up at a very deep angle and it rose, it

by the north koreans. just within this hour, the secretary of state has released a statement, saying, in part, "global actions to solve a global threat. aiding and abetting a dangerous regime. all nations should publicly demonstrate to north korea that there are consequences to their pursuit of nuclear weapons and n we attempt toor bring north korea's provocative actions before the u.n. security council." take a look at where the icbm traveled. it was a splash down about 480 miles away but believed that the missile, two-stage midsole, could reach alaska. that's the big question, about whether north korea has been able to miniaturize its nuclear weapons to put it on the tip of one of these missiles and this has changed the dynamic because this icbm could reach the united states. just within the past hour, in this show, the u.s. announced their joint exercises ongoing with the south koreans. to test what they are calling the army tactical missile system. in response to this. this is ongoing. we expect to hav

host: what does the north korean leader want? guest: the north korean leader, unusual regime, the only dynastic system that has ever existed in the marxist-leninist world. whoucceeded his father, succeeded his father, so it has been a kim dynasty from its origins. he wants is subject to a lot of questions because north korea remains on the whole a very isolated from the outside world, except for some economic relations with china and others. indeed, it is my own belief that he tries to keep it that way because if the outside world were permitted in in terms of ideas, information, technology, significant foreign presence, these would represent remarkable dangers to this very idiosyncratic regime, which has a manufactured history for its entire existence, which now approaches 70 years, so the ung-un ise with kim jon he has greatly accelerated the missile development programs in the north in the last 2-3 years, and to be frank it has in a surprise to me and other specialists the kind of progress he has been able to make in quick ord

guest: china doesn't like what north korea is doing, they don't the north korean program, but unwilling to do pressure on north korea, they fear explosion the sense of north korea lashing out or implosion in the or e of regime instability regime collapse. host: bruce klinger taking calls. independent, michael, go ahead. you.r: thank sir, a famous quote goes like this. it is a tribute to the american leaders are he reported and perceive it lie to wage war tis not tribute to public to be so was mr. oled and that daniel elsburg, pentagon papers. sir, when haley spoke up and outrageous statement to the world that we have the whatever bility to do we want, legal or not, the north korean situation, you have no options. the only option you have is to war illegally because they have the right to defend their country with military arms they can develop just like we did. to show the lies here, if your narrative is that to united states with nuclear attack is why you will go to war, why aren't you at war and china right now who have the ability to take us in five minutes? host: bruce klinger, chan

"north korea missile tensions the firsting successful north korean missile launch to date, which threatens to shift the decades-old strategic balance in these -- the pacific. firing tactical to surface to surface missiles to counter what they called north korea's destabilizing and unlawful action. late tuesday, the trump administration denounced north that scheer is the statement from secretary of state rex tillerson yesterday. global action is required to stop a global threat. any country that hosts north korean guestworkers that fails to implement un security council resolutions is aiding and abetting. all nations need to demonstrate to new correia -- north korea consequences -- there are consequences to their pursuit of nuclear weapons. as us and others have made -- in closell not coordination with our allies and partners. wes morning on our program, want to hear how you think the united states should deal with north korea. options include containment, military action, negotiation, or another option. we have phone lines for each one of those options. new york times in their story goes t

the nature of the north korean regime is clear. only the scale of the damage it does could become different. that is why yesterday's escalation is so alarming. if north korea will treat an innocent young student the way it treated auto, we should not be surprised if it acts barbaric lee on a larger scale. the united states does not seek conflict. we seek to avoid it. we seek only the peaceful denuclearization of the peninsula. regrettably we are witnessing the opposite. make no mistake north korea's launch of an icbm is a clear and sharp military escalation, the north korean regime openly states that its missiles are intended to deliver nuclear weapons to strike cities in the united states, south korea and japan. and now it has greater capacity to do so. in truth, this not only the united states and our allies that are threatened, north korea is destabilizing escalation is a threat to all nations in the region and beyond. their actions are quickly closing off the possibility of a diplomatic solution. the united states is prepared t

you could clear out north korean air defenses. you could attack their command and control, their essential ability to direct their own military force. you can take out some of those targets, and that can begin to clear the way in a conflict for other heavier weapons to come in. you can't put u.s. aircraft into north korean air space unless you clear out and attack and destroy their air defense network. let's be clear. this is a drill. this is an exercise. we are looking at a message being sent north because at the same time, we are also being told that the trump administration has no intention, we are told tonight, of escalating the situation, does not want to get into a shooting war with north korea. secretary of defense james mattis has been clear his view is that would be disastrous for the asia pacific region. but it is very interesting they chose this missile, this system to show the world tonight that they do have a capability to affect the north korean military inside their own borders. >> thank you for that, barbara. i wan

the north korean regime with a lifeline despite countless u.n. sanctions and security council resolutions that permit this. our -- that fervid this. our legislation would require the president to impose certain sanctions on institutions that are making this possible, specifically the financial institutions that clear the transactions that allow businesses to do business with north korea that keeps that regime afloat. our goal is to raise the cost of pursuing this nuclear capability, to a point so i that the regime in north korea will decide it is no longer worth pursuing this. they cannot sustain themselves in the path they are on. the legislation requires the administration to identify the institutions that are in violation of the sanctions regime and it would mandate the imposition of sanctions that make aorce them to simple choice. they can either do business or the united states or do business with any country denominated in dollars, or they can do business with north korea. hard to imagine many institutions would choose the latter. finally,

the north korean nuclear issue must be resolved without fail. north korea should by no means underestimate the firm commitment of korea and the u.s. in this regard. i also urge pyongyang to promptly return to the negotiating table for denuclearization of the korean peninsula. national security leaves no room for either compromise or concession. on this occasion, the u.s. and president trump's firm resolve is noted. with great appreciation. the republic of korea will strive to strengthen u.s. capabilities, while building up its own capacity to defend itself. as we undertake these endeavors, bilateral cooperation and defense technologies will gather further traction. economic partnership between our countries forms an essential pillar for future oriented development of the alliance. we've both agreed on this. economic growth and job creation are promoted to ensure our peoples enjoy greater mutual benefits through the collective efforts we committed to make. third, as we fight against terrorism and other global challenges together, the alliance, as

korea, and the north koreans fully understand that, and the north koreans don't play along with the chinese when they put pressure on them because the north koreans fully understand that the chinese need north korea to survive, and once the north koreans understand that, it gives them significant room to basically poke the chinese in the eye. >> woodruff: and david cohen, what about his point that china really does have limited leverage, not as much as as some people have been thinking? >> they actually have quite a lot of leverage in both the elicit and illicit financial activity that goes in north korea. they can squeeze north korea on the coal sales, they can squeeze north korea on their illicit financial activity. they will do it to an extent that doesn't cause a destabilizing situation in north korea, but they can do it in a way that can make north korea more interested in a potential negotiation. >> woodruff: so you're talking about thread ago needle, john mearsheimer. sounds like we're talking about something in between doing nothing and doing a lot more. >> well, you can do

we've had 25 years of failed north korean policy. when it's failed in the past, the presidents gotten away with it because our military hasn't been advanced enough to inflict pain on the united states. it's different. there's a new leader with new capabilities. if we fail now, the possibility -- i i don't want o sound too grim but there are life and death implications. it's incumbent on the president to use those means to force north korea to do something different, and it requires i think different thinking that we've had in the past. >> bret: the only time we heard from the president today it was about military families on the fourth of july. we saw it on the south lawn. secretary tillerson taking point on the statement. between early from the presiden president. "north korea has just launched another missile. does this guy have anything better to do with his life? hard to believe that south korea and japan will put up with this much longer. perhaps china will put a heavy move on north korea and end this nonsense once and for all!"

we've had 25 years of failed north korean policy. when it's failed in the past,, the presidents gotten away withw it because our military hasn't been advanced enough to inflict pain on the united states. it's different. there's a new leader with new capabilities. if we fail now, the possibility -- i don't want to sound too grim but there are life and death implications. it's incumbent on the president to use those means to force north korea to do something different, and it requires i think different thinking that we've had in the past. >> bret: the only time we heard from the president today it was about military families on the fourth of july. we saw it on the south lawn. secretary tillerson taking point on the statement. between early from the president. "north korea has just launched another missile. does this guy have anything better to do with his life? hard to believe that south korea and japan will put up with this much longer. perhaps china will put a heavy move on north korea and end this nonsense once and for all!"" >> tha

duly, north korean videos. first north korea showing the world its new intercontinental ballistic missile. then hours later, a u.s. and south korean show of force, holding a drill, firing missiles that could destroy north korean targets. the pentagon warning even the test of the north korean missile poses new dangers. >> this missile flew through busy air space used by commercial airliners, it flew through space, it landed in japan's economic zone in an area used by commercial and fishing vessels. all of this completely uncoordinated. >> reporter: there is an internal debate between u.s. and allied circles about whether this never-before-seen missile really shows a north korean capability that hit a target 3400 miles away, the definition of intercontinental range. the current calculation is it's right on the edge of being able to go that far but would need extensive improvement. exactly what defense secretary james mattis recently said would not be allowed. >> is it the policy of the trump administration to den

soy met with the north koreans, as well. i think there is an opportunity to make a deal at some point. but we're not ready yet, because they're not ready and the chinese and russians have to be a part of it, and they've been too willing to allow the regime to continue enjoying the benefits of that relationship. >> north korea says it won't talk unless the u.s. stops doing military options, which the u.s. won't do. doesn't seem like there's a starting point. >> there is. if you don't exercise, you don't train and you become less capable. over time, that capability erodes. so when the time comes to negotiate with the north koreaning, ykorea koreans, you're at a great disadvantage. so we have to talk in terms of even talking about regime change in north korea, because we haven't been doing that. and i think if this regime continues on the path it's going, we should start talking about it, if not considering -- >> how do you change the regime? >> from within. you start, again, crushing the economy. i think we can do more to make

the north korean threat is indeed escalating, what can china do now? there are several questions, one is what can china do and the other is what can china do and the other is what would it reasonably be prepared to do? more than any other country, i think analysts would recognise, china has these levers it kampl because beyond the sanctions regime in place right now, that there are the chinese banks and all these chinese companies trading with north korea, all this outbound north korean trade is coming through china, if beijing really wanted to it can pose some very tough measures on china —— impose. the question about whether it would want to or not comes down to this, china doesn't want north korea to have nuclear weapons but there's something worse for china than that and that's regime collapse. it's not going to do anything that risks the whole regime coming down, having a unified korean peninsula with us troops on the border. this is the equation really. unless they can come up with, the chinese, the russians, the americans, with some sort of

as we said earlier, the north korean and a south korean militaries -- the south korean and u.s. conducting military exercises in response to the north korean missile testing. some images from that. the u.s. forces in those exercises, firing service missiles into the water to counter what they describe is an unlawful action from north korea. some of the action -- images taken from that shown to you now. ken in washington dc on the line for new negotiations. good morning. caller: good morning. i hope all is well. i am against war. i am the sure anybody would call in on any of the lines thinking that war is a healthy alternative to peace. it is a colonialist it mentality. when you bomb somebody or attack someone, now you are acquiring some political power or you will exploit them in some fashion, those people. anybody that thinks north koreans will be welcoming of us bombing their people would be pretty sick. anybody that calls and wants war. you have war in the united states, we have war against poverty and gun violence, against homelessness, a war against the sick, there are a lo

something like 90% of north korean trade is with china. it does give you an idea of how powerful china could be. china will tell you and quite rightly that it is implementing all of the sanctions on north korea and is a signatory to the u.n. sanctions against the country. it says that's the way forward is pushing for dialogue. we've just heard from the ministry of foreign affairs just in the last half hour or so. they note the reports, they're still gathering information. certainly this stage, you can't detect a change of tone from china, from the foreign affairs. we've stated our position many times. china opposes the launch of this missile m. it urges north korea to stop action that's breach the united nations security council resolutions, et cetera, et cetera. we've heard all that before. interestingly, given the fact that we've got the g-20 coming up next week with all the key players, virtually all the key players involved, that may be the time for china to start pushing for more dialogue, a concerted attempt to bring north korea to t

rules of boarding north korean ships. but the north koreans have abgated the peace armistice and that gives us the authority to seek north korean ships. we should stop the flow of missiles to iran and weapons to other countries. that's unacceptable and dangerous to not only our interest but the interest of the international community. >> general, do you agrow that we would not interdict with these types of shipping operations? and what do you see as the option? >> as gordon said, absolutely, i doubt the united states would take that type of operation. it is very provocative if we did. however, it should be done. we should be provocative. arguably, everything we have done to date, has had zero effect on north korean behavior. that's the concern i have. we were to have other military options would be increasing naval presence in the region. increasing the deployment of bombers and attack aircraft. we've done that before. increase special operations. increase military collection. the priority for intelligence collection can

pictures show a triumphant north korean leader. in washington, president trump described the tests as reckless and dangerous. the reaction from north korea's neighbour in the south was equally harsh. translation: dashing the international community's hopes have eased inter—korean military tensions and in particular, seoul's offer of bilateral military talks. these joint us south korea military drills a response to the launch, designed to send a clear message that seoul and washington stand shoulder—to—shoulder in the face of an increasingly belligerent north korea. the us already has battleships in the pacific ocean. now, it has promised to scale up its strategic assets in response to this latest threat. more aircraft carriers and stealth bombers could soon be on the way. a jubilant kim jong—un wants us recognition as a nuclear power. instead, in the wake of another missile test, he's likely to face stiffer sanctions with china and russia under pressure not to stand in the way. president trump has described his new chief of

travellers come in either across chinese north korean airspace, or rather the chinese north korean friendship ridge, by train, which you can see behind me. asa train, which you can see behind me. as a result of this us travel ban, when it comes into effect in about a month's when it comes into effect in about a months time, this is already very isolated country on that side of the river will be a little bit more cut off. about 1000 american citizens travel there every year. they will of course be prevented from doing so. of course be prevented from doing so. tour operators say that the move is counted per. north korea, of course, bombards its people with co nsta nt course, bombards its people with constant propaganda that american citizens are imperialist monsters. the tour operators say that travel and engagement is one of the only ways to counter that kind of message. north korean officials have said they don't care a bit about this new ruling by the americans. but can they afford to be so blase, considering fresh sanctions have just gone in and been voted for today in the us congress? well

yes, we don't like the north korean regime. yes, it seems evil, repulsive, repressive, and a lot of things are wrong with it, but we're not going to walk back to the status quo before where they don't have missiles or nuclear weapons. so we have to look at what it takes to maintain deterrence. if we want to try to get rid of their programs or stabilize those programs, then that's another matter. that means giving up a major concessions to china and in reality, this is the long-term plan china's played with all along. they have always known we were going to get to this point that the united states would be faced with abandoning these exercises and ultimately pulling back from korea, in order to avoid the risk of some inadvertent escalation with north korea. they have brought us to this brinksmanship. they are playing on both sides. they nudge a little bit, and twiddle with the dials. they are not unhappy. the only thing that would make them unhappy is the destabilization of the north, that would release a lot of refugees into ch

koreans, that type of pressure -- by the way on information front the north koreans, the people that live in the country they look up at kim jong-un like he's larger-than-life and they don't believe that their troubles, their ills as north koreans is due to oppression from their own government because of the information that they are coming in contact with. china can help out on information campaign. there's so many tools. >> unlike iran where the elections may not be free and fair but north korea's elections are completely for show. >> completely. >> i'll move on to another quick topic. there are two kinds of people in america. those who believe that the russians interfered in the 2016 election and those who don't. president trump, i don't know where he sits. he seems to sit in the latter category and dragged a little bit over to this other side. where are you on this? >> the russians did meddle in our elections and it's important that the president utilizes an opportunity to sit down with president putin and let him know that we have no tolerance for that. this isn't new for the ru

it would be a first for the north korean regime. the projectile landed about 200 miles just off the coast of japan. the test forcing the trump administration to meet unexpectedly today to weigh their options on the north and this comes as russian president putin is promising to work with china to help solve the crisis. pau paula joins me now. is this leaving out president trump? >> reporter: well, this is interesting, brooke. it's not often that we get much of a statement from russia when it comes to north korean missiles, and certainly in the past, they haven't been covered very widely. we look at the reaction from washington, from beijing, from seoul, from tokyo. so certainly it's interesting that the president putin is now putting himself further into the north korean realm here and the fact that he is agreeing with president xi. they have a joint statement that they've come out with, and they've said that their idea to try and solve the issue, or at least bring peace and less tension back to the korean peninsula, is north korea

its natural screen provides a perfect cover for north korean hit and run operations. to frustrate the pattern of ambush and attack, a narrow strip of land will be cleared south of the line. the agent who tries to make across this high visibility zone may find the odds have been sharply reversed. the fences and watchtowers and guard posts alone mean nothing if the troops who manned them, and the one who get out and do the patrolling, who prevent the dmz and more from being overrun. someone once defined combat patrol as hours of boredom interrupted by moments of sheer terror. in a sense, dmz duty is a bit like that. the communists conduct a daily war of nerves, subversion, of the kind of treachery that can turn routine patrol into a death march. although many communist agents are introduced across the dmz, the korean government feels that even more come ashore by boat, along the 5000 mile coastline. some of these potential guerrillas hide out in the mountainous southern part of the country. for that reason, combat-ready soldiers of the korean army's infantry division co

china doesn't want that. >> eric: 1950, the north koreans attacked the south koreans, china helped the north koreans and may be russia a little bit as well. >> eboni: i am ready for them getting called out which is aiding and abetting a nuclear north korea north korea. >> eric: she's a former political host, former host of a show on rt and a political writer for the daily banter, but she specializes in trying to bring post partisanship to the news. good luck with that. alyona minkovski is here. he is the author of "gop gps," how to find the millennials and urban voters the republican party needs to survive and he's a former communication staffer for florida senator bill nelson and rudy giuliani's presidential campaign. he specializes in strategic communications. evan siegfried is here. evan, we will start with you. you published an article about this topic. i read your article and i'm going to call you out a little bit. you're brilliant, very smart but you are focusing on more sanctions. we haven't had -- china's ability to get the table for 60 years. >> evan: obama, bush, they tried t

expects of china on the north korean issue. from here, president trump is calling on president xi to put more pressure on north korea in the wake of the missile launch. is that likely to happen? say not, or have to the chinese will do something, possibly not enough to make the crucial difference. north korea has shown itself to fire at the chinese wishes, along with everyone else's tohes -- itself defiant chinese wishes, along with everyone else's wishes. could they do more? of course they could. of northrol most korean trade with the outside world, including energy and points to north korea, oil, and food. if theyoseful china want a policy change in another government. this is an ally, a neighbor, but it is quite striking the extent to which china seems unable to get a significant change in policy or make the key decisions that might threaten the north economy and the invasion, as china would see it, of their own stability. threatfor more on the from the tests, i spoke with the global security firm with a focus on nuclear weap

we did see on north korean television a photo of the north korean leader signing something. we assumed that was the test order. that's something we have seen north korea do in the past as welsh and then showing an image of his signature. it also says that it was conducted at 9:00 a.m. pyongyang time. so that's about four and a half hours ago. now the missile traveled for 39 minutes for just over 930 kilometers. the altitude just over 2,800 kilometers. now as far as north korea is concerned, it has successfully test fired an icbm. experts now going through those numbers, trying to figure out if technically it is an icbm. but they are saying that it is a historic rooeevent for north ko north korea saying with this icbm they can hit anywhere in this world. this is a north korean claim that they can hit anywhere in the world. certainly experts will be looking to see how far the exact range would be for that, though. and also saying that north korea is a nuclear state and will defend its nation against u.s. threats. so this will be of course great concern to all countries in the

north korea has thousands of rockets and missiles on the north korean side of the border with south korea with 25 million south koreans living within 50 miles of the border. it would be catastrophic if the president is signaling that there is potentially a nuclear or military confrontation with north korea which is possible. the only alternative is is direct negotiations between the united states and north korea. that is what the chinese have been requesting the united states to engage in for years. it ultimately is going to be the only route towards any potential productive resolution of this conflict. it would have to be done in conjunction with tightening chinese sanctions on the north koreans but that is the direction we should be heading in towards the diplomacy not towards an escalation. that ultimately could result in a catastrophic war on the korean peninsula. >> senator marky, thank you for joining us. >> senator ed markey, rking member of the east asia subcommitt portant to what's going on right now. your life and money and safety. here's a quick rundown of president trump's xen

north korean very high on that agenda. what did we hear? >> that was here in mouse cow and it coincided with the missile launch in north korea. both countries put out a joint statement where they expressed concern about the missile launch but stopped short at condemning it. both russia and china are signature tors to united -- which banned north korea from nuclear weapons test and further developing its miss t technology. the two leaders put forth a proposed plan for de-escalating principaling on the peninsula kaubling for a double freeze. that means north korea will suspend its nuclear weapons program and simultaneously the u.s. j chinese will -- they also went further and took the opportunity to make jabs against the u.s., saying they don't want the u.s. to use the missile launch as a pretech for adding more weapon systems to south korea. both moscow and beijing do not like the missile deployment of the u.s. miss t system known as that had. in the same joint documents they say they generally oppose the presence of u.s. troops in south kor

the north koreans say it isa in a month. the north koreans say it is a stern warning to washington that the entire us mainland is now within striking distance. in response, two bombers have conducted exercises over the north korean pen until. us b—1 bombers dominated the sky as tensions mount over the korean peninsula. escorted by fighterjets as part of a drill it was a direct response to what is being seen as an increasingly belligerent north korea. the us president is blaming china, pyongyang's biggest trading partner, for letting it get this far. taking to twitter president trump said: but china's influence could be overstated. historic ties have become looser and chinese imports of north korean coal have been cut after un sanctions last year. china also condemmed friday's second ballistic missile test. this powerful rocket flew faster and further than the one before and could soon be armed with a nuclear weapon. it's all about getting america to listen. the north korean side is definitely sending a message to the unite