talk a bit about libya because this is a topic that's very close to you libya's toppled leader moammar qaddafi did a lot for emancipation in libya whatever you like him or not but he unrolled women and universities and the army gave them rights to divorce and so on so is the new libyan state going to keep this legacy or anything related to him is subject to destruction well first i would like to make a point. whatever women have been women have cheve it has nothing to do with the get their few percy we need to this tangle this presumption that these rights have been given by giveth and we've seen this argument and discourse going on in many of the arab spring so-called arab spring countries that they've seen these women's rights that the were giving in certain time during these regimes as the first lady's policies of the case in egypt or as in the case of libya they see it as a byproduct of the so we need to disband all this first these are. rights that women have game over time and they have to they have to maintain them so while in most middle eastern countries the role of women is limited i

libyatoday resembles under qaddafi in its disregard for human rights. reporter: according to a report in the wall street journal, the technology was used at monitoring centers and training manuals belonging to the company were found at one of the sites. while an investigation is underway in france, the company has not yet been charged. sold material and they want that to be included in the report. >> we have people arrested because their conversations are being listened to. accounts are being tracked and email exchanges. more often than not, they are fighting for democracy. in 2014, cairo justified its practices to counter the muslim brotherhood. they commission charged with notng the sale approval did raise any red flags, resulting in the deal going ahead as land. marriage made in heaven -- that is how benjamin netanyahu has described relations with india as the prime minister spent his second day in the jewish state. the two leaders have signed agreements in the field of technology and agriculture. he is the first indian leader to visit israel. here t

out a bit about libya because this is a topic that's very close to you libya's toppled leader moammar qaddafi do.

years under muammar qaddafi comes to an end. the authoritarian libyan president meeting a grisly end in a tunnel. trying to escape his hometown of san. the twenty fourteen a new libya holds parliamentary elections. but violence results in low turnout gunmen stormed the parliament in tripoli and libya is left without a central government. and certain general kobe for halftime performance gaddafi loyalists he begins an offensive against what he says are islamist militias. his own group libyan national army captures several key cities. including benghazi in the northeast. in july tripoli's international airport becomes a battleground between half done and his coalition. and the newly formed libya dorm coalition which is led by fighters from the northwestern city of ms randa. this conflict establishes two rival governments the general national congress in tripoli and the house of representatives in tobruk. the two broke based government was backed by hostile it was led by a prime minister abdullah al thingy. and recognized by the u.

talk a bit about libya because this is a topic that's very close to you libya's toppled leader moammar qaddafi did a lot for emancipation in libya whatever you like him or not but he rolled women and universities and the army gave them rights to divorce and so on so is the new libyan state going to keep this legacy or anything related to him is subject to destruction well first i would like to make a point. whatever women have been women have it cheve it has nothing to do with.

time the leader of north korea but he looks out and sees what happened to the libyan dictator moammar qaddafi after negotiations with the european union the united states he gave up his nuclear program do i need to tell you what happened to him he was deposed regime change we witness a failed state in libya now so i think i might conclude the turning point was when george w. bush came in the greatest debacle was the iraq war the second might have been and this is according to robert gallucci who was the state department's lead to go shitter in one thousand nine hundred for this axis of evil calling it north korea a member of the axis of evil and breaking apart the negotiations that were happening under clinton may have contributed to where we are today instead of continuing those negotiations we resorted to military approaches which are going to result in nuclear crises larry unless we all want to be annihilated or do you expect from the trump meetings. well what do you expect larry i mean we've seen. a country our country is it you know engaged in what might be called russia gate there's als

what happened with qaddafi? >> dana: earlier today, president trump tweeted, "trade between china and north korea grew almost 40% in the first quarter. so much with trying to work with us, but we had to give it a try." that number surprised me because it's been no secret that north korea has been a big problem and china saying that it wants to help. but if it provides 90% of its goods and a 40% increase, that's a big difference. >> jesse: that's why trying to leverage is only one article of clothing. 40%, that's a lot of trade. if you want to go into a trade war with china, that's what we're going to have to do. but i think there are other things you can do. you can get the u.n. security council, sanction package. another band phrase, kicking the can down the road. preemptive strikes i believe are too risky. it's too dangerous and too many people will die. i think the only legitimate option is an assassination attempt or a coup, but that possibility is probably the most difficult. i think what president trump ne

wall street journal again "reagan and his advisers are united in wanting to respond militarily against qaddafi, but have not agreed on a time or place to strike back. a senior official administration said." the same day, cbs evening news, 48 hours after the bombing in west berlin, the reagan administration had reached the consensus for military retaliation against libya. on wednesday, april 9, cbs evening news, according to a highly-play source, present reagan has approved another possible military strike against libya. the white house denied military rumors that a military response was already underway. a well-placed intelligence or said that a military response has been approved. that same evening, abc world news tonight, the understanding now is the strike against libya is in the works. if it comes to that, seldom will military action have been so widely and publicly advertised in advance. thursday, april 10, we are getting closer to the date. nbc today show, administration officials say intense planning is underway for retaliation against libya. on the same day, the new york times, adminis

when you get out there in "the new york times" and say that we really should have done more to oppose qaddafi, because libby is going to be better when that happens. then to hear you say we need to knock off the assad regime and things will be better in a syria, he sort of wonder like, may be should another profession. selling insurance, something you're good at. is there no sanctions for being as wrong as you have? >> i would be happy to hold up my record of foreign policy against yours. by the way, to underline the fact, you supported the iraq war. when it went bad you opposed it. it doesn't take any moral courage or perspicacity. the issue with -- right now, you are supporting donald trump and you are laughing about the fact that rush is interfering our election process. that is immoral. >> tucker: let's have it's immoral. not he does agreement, you are a moral authority. you are casting moral aspersions. >> save your sarcasm okay. >> tucker: it's not sarcasm. it's contempt for your nonargument. >> the conservative movement -- when i grew up, ronald reagan warned about the evil empire and

someone like qaddafi, with a nascent nuclear program, and gave it up in 2003. we said, don't worry give it up, , we will integrate you with the west. come on in. the integration was pretty poor and when his people turned against him, the united states europe, and arab states bombed ,him until someone pulled him out of a ditch and shot him. kim jong-un looks at that and says not me. ,we are going full speed with the program. the big difference between him and his father is he is really , going full speed. charlie: you have to give the devil his due, he has shown a sense of urgency that has paid off. david: urgency, determination. when somebody write the history of this, it will be a history of a dead, broke country with no silicon valley to fall back on that figured out how to steal, beg, hire, and bribe people to grade a nuclear arsenal. charlie: is part of the psychology about this that we have to get more urgent about our options and what we are doing? because clapper and others have argued we have to act as if they have a weapon -- everything we have to do h

he looks out at the landscape and what does he see, he sees somebody like qaddafi in libya who had a nash yent nuclear program, no place close to what the north koreans or even iranians hadk and gave it up in 2003. we said don't worry, don't worry. give it up, we will integrate you to the west, come on in. the integration was pretty poor. and then when his people turned gebs him, the united states, europe and the arab states all came in and bombed him until somebody pulled him out of a ditch and shot himment kim jung-un looks at that and says not me. we're going full speed at the program. the big difference between him and his father is he is really is going full speed. >> rose: you is have to give the devil his due. he has shown a sense of urgency that has paid off. >> urgency, determination, i mean some day when somebody writes the history of this, it is going to be the history of a dead broke country with, you know, no silicon valley to fall back on. that has figured out how to steal, beg, hire and bribe people to build a nuclear arsenal. >> rose: is part of this it the scomg psyc

let's focus on guaranteeing that when these regimes are thought, when omar qaddafi is falling in libya, when they are falling in tunisia but as guarantee that no one will come and fill that vacuum. most importantly, let's guarantee that there is no democracy because god forbid that people have the ability to choose. democracy is totally against sharia, so the believers in unbelievers have the same boat and they are equal in their selection of what kind of governments they want, so anyway his commanders understood exactly what he was saying. there's something called the management of savagery, a strategy that has been out about how al qaeda view its strategy. so, first hit the united states until the united states is so weak to support these arab regimes and second creative vacuum. don't allow anyone to fill that vacuum because whoever will fill it will be the new dictator working on behalf of the americans as they see it, so the-- create this vacuum. manage that chaos and savagery happening over there. number three, declare a state and after you declare a state you can start the final

klinger, we convinced qaddafi to give up his nuclear weapon program. we convinced saddam hussein to give up his nuclear weapon program and then subsequently we participated in a process that led to their deaths. so if you're kim and you are looking at the united states and the goal ultimately to do the d nuclear i, what does he need as a guarantee for his own personal safety in order to convince them that it is worth his while to engage in talks that could head towards denuclearization. and ultimately what other concessions are the commitments of the united states would have to make in order to get him to accept that premise? >> north korean has used those same examples as to why they will never negotiate away their nuclear weapons. they have set denuclearization is off the table. there's nothing you can offer us, were prepared to talk about a priest piece treaty, or fight. so, unless we change the calculus than they will not negotiate away those nuclear weapons. the pressure, the sanctions and targeted financial membership measures are fulfilling obje

only 1 million people have died thanks to qaddafi. of course he was a madman and and authoritarianism. there was nothing that was going to create anything other than anarchy in that country. this takes us then to the end of the line because by 2011 they were also saying obama and officially secretary clinton, that assad had to go. he was unilaterally deposed by washington. they contacted moscow? number of course not. they decided themselves that assad had to go to the wood. they were going to fund the so-called moderate errands. by 2014, president obama admitted in public testimony that there were maybe five or six they had found. five or six.there was no such thing as moderate errands. there were a few but most of them were fronts for al qaeda that just wanted more weapons. syria was except for the kurds, the kurds were the single exception here. i agree. i could get into why obama became a liberal internationalist, but part of it came from the fact that he was born that way. as a black man, as a constitutional lawyer, as a unity org

he stays demanding talk like qaddafi. he is someone who would not want to go that route. in essence, it is a status pro answer less president trump steps up. >> what we have done with china, deal pressure and did some other things happen, and then china goes back. the president consistently bringing this up in his tweets, data shows that the president is committed to put pressure on china. there's a bunch of issues that we deal with china on comment that they would like to add cooperation. >> eric: and what you get to the point when beijing says that's enough. we went to reunified peninsula, but we do not want refugees over the border. they do not want a hostile government, if that's possible at all, next door. >> once we convince china that they have more to lose by the status quo than they do by working with us to really put north korea back in the box. they really feel it, but when they take action that is better to work with us, japan, the south koreans. kim jong un is a flunk kid. he is irrational in the sense that he wants to hold onto power, but how he makes these

charles: north africa, particularly libya, orchestrate the removal of qaddafi, didn't have plan b. >> now it has become a huge smuggling business, people go to libya and take the rickety boats, often dying to go to italy and get in the eu. charles: what can be done about it now? >> why don't we establish a safe zone in syria again? here's a chance to go back home. we did it in iraq, the kurds in the 1990s. that is where hitler, stopped hitler from taking over austria in 1934, brenner pass, four years later, close allies. a little bit of history. charles: you reclaimed the mantle. another one for you. frankfurt became the first german city where the natives are now the minority. more than half of city residents have a migrant background. what are your thoughts on that? >> this goes back to the 1960s when germany actively sought workers because they had labor shortages, primarily from turkey. a lot of the population is turkish. it goes to show the assumption angela merkel will have any the reelection this year, i am not so sure. there is a real reaction. charles: is there a cautionary t

when these leaders go down like qaddafi and saddam hussein, they are personally killed. that's a huge reason for kim jong un to do anything can he to stay in power. ainsley: how significant is it that he pick up the phone and call japan's prime minister and say we have got your back. >> extremely significant. very important for kim jong un to realize all these different groups, different nations are rallying against you and that you are surrounded and china, russia a little bit. china is the last holdout. it's interesting that president trump tweeted out that china could end this very easily. president trump has access to information that you and i don't. if he is making this claim, this is based on something that he knows. so that would have to be the last holdout. again, china doesn't want 25 million north koreans crossing the border and setting up camp when they don't speak chinese and no skills to offer. ainsley: author of dear reared the unauthorized biography of kim jong il. >> thank you, ainsley. ainsley: democrats ready to fix healthcare. what are their ideas and