guam is a colony. pepeople were not embarrassed in washington and the 50 states, were not embarrassed in past decades to call guam a colony. it is called a territory, but it is a colony. the people effectively have a kind of third class citizenship. they cannot vote for president, they do not have meaningful representation in congress. people in d.c. where i live have a kind of second class citizenship that at least we can vote for president. beeneople of guam have left and maintained inn the statatus of cocolonial relationp with the resest of the united states, and not t given independence at ththe same time, or incorporated into the united states as a state that would grant them the full democratic rights that other u.s. citizens enjoy. , canoe you talk about hohow widespread the resistance is among people on guam? many are involved in the u.s. military, in the bases that are ththere. the andersen air force base, etc. >> the widespread resistance on the island has been growing exponentially in the pa

they call it the "enveloping fire," and shooting around guam, not at guam. host: let's get our viewers in the conversation. professor john delury joining us from seoul and patrick cronin from the center for a new american security. the number is (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. independents and others, (202) 748-8002. we welcome your tweets at @cspanwj. what do you think about this challenge john delury is talking about? guest: john is right. what the north korean leadership is trying to do is find a way to leverage its fear to threaten the united states and its allies without actually triggering war. guam wouldtriking trigger war. but the threat of missiles in waters well off the waters of guam tells trump and the united can't stop me from doing what i want to do." b-1 bombers were flown by the obama administration and now the trump administration to make sure that kim remembers that if he actually tries to kill someone, there will be legal repercussions immediately and that we are more powerful than north korea. we are in a sta

i read about where in guam by august 15th. let's see what he does with guam. he does something in guam, it will be an event the likes of which nobody has seen before, what will happen in north korea. >> when you say that, what do you mean? >> you'll see, you'll see. and he'll see. he will see. >> is that a dare? >> it's not a dare. it's a statement. has nothing to do with dare. that's a statement. he's not going to go around threatening guam and the united states and japan and south korea. no, that's not a dare, as you say. that is a statement of fact. >> will, very strong words from the president. you've spoken with north korean officials over these past several years. how is kim jong-un likely to respond to that powerful statement from president trump? >> reporter: north koreans live every day with the collective memory of the korean war where all of pyongyang was decimated, completely leveled to the ground after that war. millions of people died on the korean peninsula. so for president trump to say that he is going to inflict something even worse than that

missile defense systems on guam. it is a known fact that the thaad missile defense system, if you're talking about -- if you're talking about one missile approaching, that's a very different scenario from four. so, this is north korea saying they are prepared to show president trump and the united states that they have the capability right now to simultaneously launch an intermediate range missile that could travel up to 5,000 kilometers, theoretically putting guam within sfrieking range. they are confident they can put these missiles down within 30 to 40 kilometers of key u.s. military assets and more than 160,000 american citizens on this 210-square-mile island. they technically are confident they can do this or they wouldn't spell it out in black and white like this. if they go forward with this test, it will be by far the most provocative test they have done. and what will the united states do in response? and then what will the north koreans do in response? this is what china has been talking about, this chain r

territory of guam. the pentagon tells nbc news that it has also prepare d a e preemptive strike in case president trump were to make that order. >> a canadian pastor serving a life sentence in north korea is expected back home today in toronto. state media says he was released buzz of his failing health. >>> and a russian aircraft is stirring up a buzz. the e low-flying. airplane flew over major locations yesterday where air space is is normally restricted. it turns out it was cleared by the government under an agreement dating back to the 1990s called the open skies treaty. let's take a look at this treaty. the purpose of the treaty is promote openness and transparency. what the treaty does is allows aerial imaging of military forces and activities of concern. the kind of thing you might not want russian planes looking at. it's been in effect of january since 2002. this is not as craze siz as it sounds. it's actually a global treaty. 34 parties to the treaty including the united states, russia, united

territory of guam. >> let's see what he does with guam. if he does something in guam, it will be an event the likes of which nobody's seen before what will happen in north korea. it's not a dare. it's a statement. >> reporter: and on the specter of nuclear conflict. >> i would like to denuke the world. i know president obama said global warming is the biggest threat. i totally disagree. and nobody including north korea is going to be threatening us. >> reporter: but when pressed whether he's considering a preemptive strike which officials tell nbc news is on the table. >> we don't talk about that. i never do. i'm not like the other administration that would say we're going to mosul in four months. i can tell you that what they've been doing and getting away with is a tragedy. and it can't be allowed. >> reporter: the president also lashed out at his predecessors calling them ineffective and acknowledging a new round of sanctions might not be enough to solve the problem, even denying any internal discord when it comes to communications in h

i read about where in guam, by august 15th, let's see what he does with guam. if he does something in guam, it will be an event to the likes of which no one has seen before. you'll see and he will see. it's not a dare, it's a statement nothing to do with dare. it is not okay for him to go around and threaten guam, the united states, japan, south korea. that is not a dare, that is a statement of fact. >> what does that tell you? >> we were wrong. when we looked at the installation of a cabinet, you look at someone that is the head of exxon. the new chief of staff, if the president himself could manage to grow a temperament that was more presidential, with a circle of advisors that they would view assaying look, you can say whatever you want on the campaign trail, but you can chill out. the in fact he is up there, including officials that i would regard high talented, he says those officials are not having the influence they expected. >> i don't think anyone knows where this is going. it is not helpful rhetoric. we have seen how with north korea it is a -- >> wer

new threats to guam. north korea says it is working on a plan to launch four missiles to the tiny territory of the us. the new threat comes despite a warning from the us defence secretary that north korea's actions could result in the end of its regime and the destruction of its people. end of its regime and the destruction of its peopleli end of its regime and the destruction of its people. i am babita sharma in london. australia's bitter political battle over legalising gay marriage comes to a point as the government pushes on with a postal vote. and president duterte of the visit philippines head to universities to see what stu d e nts head to universities to see what students think of his plans. live from our studios in singapore and london. this is bbc world news. it's newsday. i am glad you could join us. newsday. i am glad you could join us. it is in singapore, 7am in washington and 7:30am in pyongyang. the state media is reporting north korea is developing a plan to launch four missiles at the us

friday in guam. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. >>> up first, president trump about to huddle with lhis national security team as north korea ups the ante regarding its threat against the united states. outlining details of its plan to strike near the u.s. territory of guam. north korea says it involves a simultaneous firing of four intermediate missiles aimed just off the pacific island and mocking president trump's threat to release a fire and fury. and quoting the north korea's statement now calling it "a load of nonsense." here in washington, the trump administration is pushing back against criticism its sending mixed messages on north korea. >> some of you may disagree with this, but the united states is on the same page. whether it's the white house, the state department, the department of defense, we are speaking with one voice. we are all singing from the same hymn book. >> let's bring in our cnn without reporter kaitlan collins, barbara starr

guam is only very close to korea. and we have 168,000 american citizens living in guam. we have two large bases, anderson air force and big navy. we have so many -- i've noticed lately in talking with secretary mattis, just recently at a hearing, he told me they were going to protect guam. that gives me a good feeling but we're still concerned about any kind of a threat that comes our way. >> let me bring in the reporter, isa baza. you have been speaking to people, what are they feeling about this? is there a normalcy as the congresswoman said this is not the first time people in guam have felt this threat from north korea and if north korea thinks it wants to attack america, guam is the first stop on the way. what's the sense from the people of guam? >> people in guam are definitely concerned this time around. there had been threats by north korea before but we feel like there's been an increase in military activity. there's been an increase in missile tests from north korea. so people have been concerned. i spoke with a waiter at dinner and he was saying he's never see

guam. >> let's bring in cnn's sharice famm live from tokyo. what's the situation there? >> reporter: here in japan, government officials are saying "we will not tolerate any provocations from north korea." they're taking a passive stance, the stance they've taken since the end of world war ii. it's a little bit different from its neighbor, its nearby neighbor, south korea, which has warned to north korea to, please, dial it back or face military retaliation from us. there's a bit of a mixed bag going on across the region. china coming out the most for forcefully telling all parties, everybody, please back off a little bit and tone it down. all of this in japan comes at a sensitive time. this week marks the anniversary of the bombings of hiroshima and nagasaki. a strong reminder that japan is the only country to have suffered under the attack of an atomic bomb. now the people across the region in japan, in south korea, and china, they are carrying on with their daily lives here. look, they a

territory of guam. but president trump has assured the governor that the public there, the people who live there are safe. for more on that, let's go to martin savidge who is there in guam. martin, we're hearing from the president, we're hearing from the governor saying that the people are safe. what are the people saying? are they as certain as these leaders? >> reporter: the people here are worried. i mean there is a background level here of concern and that's very obvious when you have conversations or whether you just watch the news. we should point out that of course guam is at the center of it all here in a very unique and potentially precarious position. number one, it's the target, could be the target of north korea and yet at the same time it could also be the tip of the spear of any kind of u.s. military response, so it carries both of those burdens, you could say, on its shoulders. the governor, who is the leading official on the island of this u.s. territory, has been trying to reassure the

that is the same hearing guam. the governor, a republican, he is very much a supporter of president trump. he says that the tough rhetoric is good for the united states and fought north korea and says that he should be confronted. a lot of the population in guam is very patriot, many people serving the military. we also saw that many people are opposed to president trump and his policies, such as the analyst who spoke to, and they believe that the rhetoric from president trump last week, talking of fire and fury, striking back at north korea with enormous force, they think that is just provocative and dangerous for the lives and livelihoods of people here, especially as guam depends heavily on tourism from asia. hundreds of thousands of people come here every year to enjoy themselves. well over one and a half million this year. people here are worried that this conflict, this angry rhetoric, could damage the tourism industry. i am sure the mood and sentiment changes from day to day, depending on the rhetoric, wheth

north korea is saying in their sites is guam. we know 12,000 americans are on a base there and it would put them in harm's way. should we walk back? the president's comments tonight pretty incendiary. he said fire and fury like the world has never seen if north korea were to use this new technology they have which is miniaturized nuclear warheads. where does this end? >> i have been to but all before when i was assigned to the pacific fleet. it's a major hub for our stair force and navy. our past approaches have not worked. since the 1990s, they haven't worked. president trump is right to take a tough line with north korea. kim jong-un is not the average president. he should be on notice. gerri: let me tell you. i look at what's going on. this is not someone you can predict what he's going to do. he's not an unknown quantity but an unpredictable quantity. he's irrational and erratic. that makes the notion of deterrence difficult. when you have rational players on both sides of the equation, then you can talk seriously about deter

rex tillis and has arrived in guam. it is the tensions between the united states and north korea after the threat to send a missile to guam. he has been speaking to the media. let's listen to him. what the president is doing is standing to the max sending a strong message in the max sending a strong message in the language he will understand. he does not understand diplomatic language. he wanted to be clear to the north korean regime that the us will defend itself and its allies andi will defend itself and its allies and i think it‘s important he delivers that message with no miscalculation on their part. one of north korea‘s responses was the outgoing to... the north korean missile capability can point in many directions. guam is not the only place that can be under threat. no, i never considered re—routing the trip back. i do not believe that there is an imminent threat. do you think there is a longer term threat? about guam or the region in general? i hope not. we are hoping the pressure campaign that the whole

territory of guam. after the stern warning from president trump. >> the president vowed yesterday that threats from the north would be met with fire and fury. now the rhetoric between the two advear reports that north korea can now place nuclear warheads on its missiles. >> and there's also word that kim jong un has 60 nuclear weapons in his arsenal. that's new. we begin, though, with emily row. >> reporter: an explosive statement from president trump. >> north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury. like the world has never seen. >> reporter: the chilling warning in response to kim jong un's threat to make the u.s. pay dearly following tough new u.n. sanctions. >> he has been very threatening, beyond a normal statement. >> reporter: abc news confirmed a "washington post" report that u.s. intelligence analysts believe north korea can now produce a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its intercontinental missiles. >> this is the most mo

they could prove would land near the coast of guam, they're not threatening to bomb guam -- would you support for that or any other test, all these tests that have gone by with no response, do you support a change in that? that the united states would have an actual military strike after any test from north korea? >> in this format i can't answer that question because there are other things going on and it's too simplistic a question to answer. and there's no question that if indeed they attack united states citizens and do a kinetic attack, i would support a response to that. >> but that's different than a tes test. >> there are things that are happening that i can't talk about here. >> but let me quickly ask you, when you say -- i know you can't get into the details but if you could indicate -- obviously you're in a position on your committees where you're being briefed. is there any diplomacy going on other than the president's threats? are you at least able to tell us that? i cannot tell you that. but what i can tell you is that generally any time you see any issues between any tw

territory of guam. the president lobbed one more shot before walking off. >> i will tell you this, north korea better get their act together or they're going to be in trouble like few nations have ever been in trouble in this world, okay? >> and cecilia vega with us live tonight from bedminster, amid all these escalating war of words with north korea, and the president also weighed in with something else about nuclear weapons today. >> reporter: yeah, david. late today he was asked about his priorities in terms of nuclear weapons and he said, quote, i would like to denuke the world in that nuclear weapons are our greatest threat worldwide. he also said among the first order of business that he gave his generals was to make america's nuclear arsenal, quote, the big skpgest and the finest in the world. >> cecilia vega, thank you. >>> you heard cecilia report on the specific threat north korea has now made to strike near guam in the middle of this month. the homeland security chief for guam saying they wou

guam is not a pawn for war games. someone else commented praising the governor for being an impressive leader and trusting in mr. trump. it's now about 7:30. for the locals they've heard that but it's life as normal. right now it is the weekend time, saturday here in the evening. and there are locals and visitors alike down hotel row which is filled with bars and restaurant, a lot of the people down there are military personnel as well. earlier in the day i was down at the beach, one of the popular beaches here. people were out and about. barbecuing, the usual celebrations for people's birthdays and such that people have all the time here over the weekend. i also saw a japanese couple that just got married and were having a photo shoot there so it hasn't stopped people from living their lives both locals and visitors. more than a million visitors come here from japan. from china, from south korea, even russia and they come here, many of them to get married or just to vacation and i was talking with the director of the

territory of guam. after the stern warning from president ump. >> the president vowed yesterday that threats from the north would be met with fire and fury. now the rhetoric between the two adversaries escalated following reports that north korea can now place nuclear warheads on its missiles. >> and there's also word that kim jong un has 60 nuclear weapons in his arsenal. that's new. we begin, though, with emily rau. >> reporter: an explosive statement from president trump. >> north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury. like the world has never seen. >> reporter: the chilling warning in response to kim jong un's threat to make the u.s. pay dearly following tough new u.n. sanctions. >> he has been very threatening, beyond a normal statement. >> reporter: abc news confirmed a "washington post" report that u.s. intelligence analysts believe north korea can now produce a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its intercontinental missiles.

territory of guam. the president lobbed one more shot before walking off. >> and i will tell you this. the north korea better get their act together, or they're going to be in trouble like few nations ever have been in trouble in this world. okay? >> reporter: and the president was also asked about his priorities in terms of north korea weapons. his response, quote, i would like to denuke the world and that nuclear is the greatest threat worldwide. he also said that when he took office among his first orders of business was to tell his generals to make sure that america's nuclear arsenal is quote, the biggest and finest in the world. cecelia vega, bridgewater, new jersey. >> it's not quite fire and fury from the defense secretary. his words more like diplomacy and military >> the u.s. missile defense system is standing guard. and abc's arlette saenz is also standing guard for us, monitoring this. and we are keeping you busy. what's the latest on this? >> for the second time in the span of two days, the

territory of guam. a report says a plan to attack the island with four midrange missiles will be complete in mid-august. the threat came shortly after u.s. defense secretary james mattis warned north korea to cease actions that would, quote, lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people. >>> protesters gathered in san francisco tonight to speak out against president trump and the possible threat of a nuclear war with north korea. the protest was organized by a group called refuse fa sister many. they are -- fascism. there are similar protests happening in other u.s. cities and in front of the white house today. >>> north korea's threat to attack guam is getting mixed reaction from people on the island. >> joining us now by telephone is karen gale. karen, you lived in guam. i'm curious, what is it like being there right now and are people worried and are you worried? >> actually, no. nobody's worried. everything is going, it's a beautiful day on guam, it's gorgeous. we are just more ups

imminent threat and the reports of comments earlier on his airplane as he flew back, actually first guam and then back to the u.s. the news conference should be coming up shortly with your on c-span. we will take a look next at reaction to the north korea story from this morning's washington journal. host: the president's statements responding to yesterday's news about north korea and reported potential of a nuclear weapon being capable to be inside of an intercontinental ballistic missile. to give us a perspective, errol campbell from the arms control association joins us, their executive director. thank you for joining us. guest: good to be with you. host: could you give us perspective on what this news means and tell our viewers exactly what we are considering when we hear about the potential of a weapon being inside an icbm? guest: we have known for quite some time that north korea is trying to develop a smaller, lighter, more compact nuclear warhead that can be delivered on a ballistic missile, particularly a long-range or intercontinental ballistic missile. the defense intelligence

you're there in guam. how are officials there preparing people for the possibility of some sort of conflict without creating panic? >> reporter: you mentioned there the b-1 bombers, and the andersen air force base here. it invited lobel journalists to look how some of these b-1 bombers were operating. as one officer described it, they're in a constant state of readiness. he didn't describe exactly what their missions were today, and he also explained some of the motives behind the work they do and what they're trying to defend here on guam. in the u.s. take a listen. >> the majority of the people here, we live here. so i live here. my wife lives here. my two daughters hiv le s lives. my son lives here. we kids go to school here and we feel safe here now. that's what this korcontinued bomber presence does. >> reporter: wolf, there are some 5,300 u.s. servicemen and women at andersen air force base and naval base guam. and family members, about 13,000 here. of course, this island is home to more than 160,000

there is clearly deep concern in guam. the threat against guam made by north korea was very specific and very detailed. that has never happened before. there's also the sense it is a rhetorical threat, that if north korea ever really did fire missiles at this island it would be suicidalfor the north korean regime. so why do it? well, firstly, as nick said in his report there, this is a veryjuicy target for the north koreans. strategically very important for the united states, there are two huge military bases here, a huge airbase behind me and a big naval base here as well. after president trump made those rhetorical comments about fire and fury, north korea has decided to do the same thing. they are saying you must take us seriously and we will not be intimidated. and so, because of that, i think across this region, particularly in south korea and japan, there is a feeling the way president trump talks about north korea in these off—the—cuff remarks, is really not the way to deal with pyongyang. inafew in a few moment

let's speak with ivan in guam. ivan, it's not the first time weaver faced threats from north korea given the strategic importance. >> reporter: that's right, and one of the reasons north korea made this threat was that it was angry about u.s. bombers that had taken off from anderson air force base here on guam and conducted flights over north korea -- not north korea, i'm sorry, the korean peninsula and accompanied by fighter planes from u.s. allies japan and south korea. but another reason why it's threatening guam is it's the closest u.s. territory geographically to north korea. there are clearly u.s. military installations that are far closer geographically there in japan and in south korea, but this is a way that the north korean regime can try to threaten the u.s. i have to say, having landed here just after midnight, i don't see signs of panic here, though a u.s. border guard at the airport did joke, welcome to ground zero. there is clearly some concern when there are threats directly against this island, but

more on the threats to guam ahead. plus, as tensions rise with the north, the stock market is taking a tumble. the markets do not like uncertainty. we're in a period of uncertainty. the dow headed for the third straight loss. the s&p down as well. coming up, a live report from the floor of the new york stock exchange, this is the fox news channel. america's choice for news and information on cable. >> i'm lea gabrielle with the fox report. more on today's headlines. a woman's purse exploded on her lap during a city council meeting. happened south of las vegas, boulder city. no word on what caused the battery in her cell phone to explode. she had minor burns and will be okay. video of fireworks going off in a wendy's. we're just releasing the video now. police are looking for the teenagers that did. apparently a prank. a 18 wheeler spilled frozen pizzas all over an interstate. the truck scraped a bridge support sending the pies flying. news continues with shep after this. >> shepard: 14 minutes. that's how long they tel

the governor of guam tried to assure residents the island is american territory and will be protected by the american military. >> i've reached out to the white house this morning. an attack or threat on guam is a threat or attack on the united states. >> reporter: north korea made the threat after b-1 bombers had flown from guam over the korean peninsula in what has become a standard show of force in response to north korea's missile tests. returning from asia, secretary of state tillerson was asked if americans should be worried. >> no, i think americans should sleep well at night. >> reporter: mattis issued his warning shortly before touring the uss "kentucky" a ballistic

why guam? you can tell us why. >> guam became a u.s. territory in 1898 in the spanish american war. it does have one nonvoting delegate and the natives are u.s. citizens by birth. residents do not vote for president and do not pay u.s. taxes. guam is considered american soil and an attack there would be an attack on the united states. for location, guam is about 4,000 miles or so east of hawaii. so it's nowhere near the u.s. mainland, but because of its proximity to china, japan, the philippines and of course the korean peninsula, guam has long been a key facility for the u.s. military. the u.s. takes up about 30% of the island with a naval base and an air force installation. there's been talk in recent years about relocating thousands of marines from okinawa, japan to guam. last month when north korea tested that intercontinental ballistic missile, the u.s. responded by flying two supersonic jets, two sets of bombers, from guam over the korean peninsula in a show of force. while the u.s. military is the main driver of the guam economy, tourism is second and threats of an attack by

so guam does have a u.s. missile defense system on the island but they're about 160,000 americans there, two u.s. military bases and here's the real problem tonight. this is the direct challenge to what president trump said. he said another threat they will be met by fire and fury. they made the threat. now, what happens, anderson? >> before we move on, it is not clear because what you just said it was several hours after the president made those remarks that the north koreans made those remarks. is it just several hours later it was reported? are you saying we don't know for a fact this comment was made after the president's remarks? >> i don't think we know exactly when the kcna published it at this point. >> in terms of nuclear development, if north korea does now have this capability, it would be obviously very serious move forward for their nuclear program. >> here's where we are on that. the u.s. intelligence assessment is that they most likely have in fact produced a warhead. the important word being p

territory of guam. the plan according to north korea will be in place in just days and could have the rockets landing just about 20 miles from america's military bases in the western pacific on guam. our ivan watson is out front live from there. ivan this threat, of course, comes about 15 hours after the president said if you threaten again the united states, i will unleash fire and fury the likes of which the world has never before seen and now here we go. kim is doing it. >> reporter: that's right. and, you know, after the initial threats came from north korea where they singled out guam and said that guam could be the target of enveloping fire as north korea put it from north korean intercontinental ballistic missiles you had local officials here on the ground, on this american island that's home to more than 160,000 american civilians trying to calm and reassure the population. the governor saying that there had been no increase in the threat level here. the local representative, the departments of

remember, 168,000 residents of guam. u.s. citizens all. they're living under the threat of north korean missiles arriving off their shores in some sort of show of force. this is their local paper, the guam pacific daily news. they ran an article today. it's listed on tear website tonight, an article called "missile threat tips." just some solid how-to advice for civil defense in the event of a missile launch. here are the guidelines. don't look at the flash or fireball. as blindness may result. take cover behind a concrete structure, if possible. while flight time is 14 minutes, it can take more than 30 seconds for the blast wave to actually hit. after impact. after the blast, shower well, using plenty of soap and shampoo. we are not making light of this threat, nor is anyone on guam, far from it. in fact, we are joined by two guests to talk about it. democratic congressman ted lou of california is with us tonight, important in taiwan, he went to stanford and georgetown and he's a colonel in the air force reserves who wa

because guam is part of us. governor, i appreciate getting up very early for us and giving this exclusive enter and let us know what it's like to be in the line of fire. >> everything is okay. come to guam. >> you got it. i'll use my hilton points. we'll go there. all right. meanwhile, let's move ahead with the story and get a perspective jillian turner was with the strategic council. good to see you. and mike sample an expert on north korea and wrote a great biography of kim jong-un. they both join us. jillian, i'd like to start with michael. michael, you do not believe if kim jong-un has one shot it's going to be at guam. >> of course not. if you're going to go to prison, you're going to take a shot, you punch the guy in the face. when the japanese attacked us at pearl harbor, there was a fleet there. they know the retaliation regardless of who the president was. even president obama would have been swift and brutal. the good thing about president trump, he's speaking their language. when you're engaged in neg

thousands of troops are in guam. it's approximately 2,100 miles from north korea and reachable by their weapons. secretary of state rex tillerson is in guam this morning and he attempted to bring order and calm. the secretary of state said this was a planned refuelling trim and there's no imminent threat. tillerson said he's not worried about the latest threats between president trump and north korea. he talked to reporters during a flight. the sound quality isn't perfect but here it is. >> i think americans should sleep well at night, have no concerns about this particular rhetoric of the last few days. what the president was aforming, the united states has the capability to fully defend itself from any attack and defend our allies and we will do so. >> shepard: yet no president has ever used similar rhetoric. secretary tillerson repeated as relates to north korea. he's repeated his call for opening talks with the north if it stops testing missiles. the messages from leaders are all over the place. james mattis issu

we're in hong kong, tokyo and guam. and with the president in new jerseyment we're starting in china and that phone call between presidents trump and she. david, hello to you. >> good morning. yes, that phone call, she engine ping tried to calm the situation down, urging for restraint, hinting perhaps that the comments coming from president trump are not helpful from the chinese perspective. i want to read you something from the ministry of foreign affairs that came out on friday. the chinese side hopes all relevant parties speak and act with caution and do more things at de-escalating the tense situation and enhancing mutual trust rather than relapsing between the old path of showing assertiveness and escalating tensions. you know, victor, i've covered china for several years, and often you can just predict exactly what they're going to say about north koreament this is different. it's a rebuke of the u.s. and north korean rhetoric coming out in recent days. china desperately wants to try and ease the tension in a very

near guam. but not on guam. okay, which is the geopolitical equivalent of your brother saying i'm not touching you. >> not only trading threats with kim jong-un but attacking mitch mcconnell and slammed him twice on twitter today, told him to get back to work from vacation he said this. >> sources say mitch mcconnell is going to shoot back a response as soon as his grandchildren show him what twitter is and how to use it. >> right now trump is on vacation at his new jersey golf club and i heard that he actually gets a farmland tax break there because it has a herd of goats on the property. yeah, the goats will eat anything, grass, plant, tax returns, very helpful. trump is not the only one taking a break. the kremlin released photos of vladimir putin. take a look at this photo. yeah. putin was like, forget about the dad bod, feast your eyes on the vlad bod. >> forget about the vladimir putin photos and the dancing pecs. >> he was putting on a show. all right. that's what's making news in america this morning. >>

how are people in guam feeling? >> reporter: you know, there's kind of two levels of preparation that i think people are going through here, brooke. one is the physical, which is of course getting ready with emergency supplies as best you can. and then the other is the mental preparedness and that's probably the most difficult. let me show you the newest paper. this is the saturday morning version. and the banner headline there, of course, says "missile watch." but the one that really catches your eye. officials, quote, do not look at the flash, which is a clear reference that if there's some sort of nuclear fireball, don't be looking at it because you could go blind. if it's on the front page of the paper, you can see how it ratchets up the level of people's concern. the governor on the island is doing his best to tell people that the threat level has not been raised in any way, that the island is safe and sound and they should go about their lives as they always would. it's the old, keep calm and carry on. but at

territory of guam. as we mentioned earlier, senator john mccain reacted to the president's comments this afternoon. here's more of what he said. >> i think that the ruler in pyongyang is not crazy, but he certainly is ready to go to the brink. the great leaders that i've seen, they don't threaten unless they are ready to act. and i'm not sure that president trump is ready to act. >> i want to bring back our military panel now. general hurtling, if you're south korea or japan tonight, what steps are you taking in this potential escalation? >> there is an air defense umbrella over both japan and south korea right now, anderson, that would prevent any kind of ballistic missiles, for the most part, getting in. that's not 100% insurance, that's sort of hike what goesli goes on during israel. they can get most of them, but every once in a while one falls through. going back to what secretary mattis and general clapper said, it is dangerous in seoul, south korea. it's a packed city of 10.5 million people with

guam is home to 170,000 people. it lies 4,000 miles from hawaii and 2,000 miles southeast of north korea. the u.s. has 7,000 troops stationed in guam, in an air force base and a navy base." wall street journal" reporter lucy craymer is in guam and joins me now via skype. lucy, the people that you talk to there, are they concerned? are they frightened? or are they trying to live as normally as they can? >> people are generally just getting on with their lives. i think it's at the back of most people's minds. i mean, you hear it talked about. as it came out earlier today, you know, there was a conversation going on in front of me in the queue. but i was also at the beach this afternoon, and people were swimming, you know, sitting around with their families, having barbecues. life has gone on. i think that people are aware this could happen, but they've also been living with this kind of threat since the first threat was made i think about in 2013. so this isn't the first time for many of them that this has been though

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let's go back to nbc's miguel who is reporting from guam. apparently i hadn't offended him was it was an audio problem. miguel, i was listening to the comments from the governor of guam who telling people nothing to worry about, essentially. go about your daily lives. is that what you're marrying from people? >> yeah, ali. you're making a striking point the governor is telling here to remain calm, no reason for chaos, that people should go about their regular daily basis but at the same hand if north korea did file ballistic missiles at this island they could reach here in 14 minutes. so certainly folks here weighing both of those with a grain of salt, trying to remain calm and carry out their every day business, but also knowing is that if missiles were fired here, they could reach here in 14 minutes. many of the locals we have been speaking to seem to have mixed opinions. some saying they've heard this type of rhetoric before, just a few years ago. they're not overly concerned. others saying they haven't heard this kind of rhetoric at this

guam is 2,100 miles from north korea. we have been treated to these kinds of posts and hot air for a very long time. we need to dismiss a lot of those. finally, north korea is in a lot of trouble right now. they are in the midst of a very severe drought. not only are they having trouble feeding their population, they can't feed their own troops. the equipment in north korea goes back to the ' 60s in '70s. they have very few modern weapons. the bottom line is, we need to stop imputing from north korea a capability visited there. we need to stop underestimating south korea and we need to talk to the south korean south korean president. >> brian: a couple of things. south korea, they had this liberal leader elected, i can't do a dissertation on korean politics, i'll give you that. man, he has changed his tone. he originally said, i don't knoo about the thaad system, i want to do an environmental study -- meanwhile, there studying about frogs would liver or die if the missile systems are put in, they realized that they needed