and north korea used close by north korea in july of 2016. we have to be clear when we are talking about, don't send public messages because we should send them in private, it is back to the you need to to tango. north korea is cutting off a lot of avenues. maybe that is the way to interpret the president's message, to not cross the line. we have to be careful describing it as a redline or the president painting himself in a corner. i think that is equally dangerous escalating rhetoric. we do not want a scenario where north korea feels like they must respond. we back to solutions here. what is congress's role in this situation particularly what you reference yesterday with the president? we have seen senator mccain critical of it and chuck schumer critical of it and others. what is congress's's role? ask thenk they will right questions about why we have the rhetoric and what is the strategy behind it. when we are talking about the policy, i know senators and congressmen have in asking the right questions about when the sanctions will be imple

except south korea. certainly they have been a real threat to south korea, japan, u.s. ships at sea. and a number of other entities in the region. but less of a pressing threat than many in the united states claimed north korea to be all along. that really has changed in the last couple of years and it's changed because of the rapid pace with which north korea has pursued both its nuclear weapons and its ballistic missile capabilities. and the very free hand that the leader kim jong-un seems to have with keeping those programs on a very, very rapid course that are really defying all expectations by u.s. intelligence agencies and others. >> and have we perhaps overstated china's either ability and/or willingness to rein in the north korean regime? >> you know, i think we're about to find out because china really does have a checkmate on north korea economically. so far they have been unwilling to use that because of the potential for it to negatively affect china. so china's equities here are real and the

to destroy north korea's program and north korea told me that my face. prepared for war with north korea that's according to a u.s. senator it comes amid rising tensions between washington. is admit missing a deadline to deport a man suspected of committing friday's deadly knife attack in.

luxury items in north korea. elements of pop culture in from elsewhere, what is the situation, how important or relevant, given that the kim regime doesn't seem to place the economic well being of its people as a top priority, how relevant is it north koreans understand what is going on around them and what role their country is playing in this conflict? >> in the long run i think it is more than relevant. i think it is the key to the puzzle. first of all i completely agree with your assessment. we're dealing with a nuclear power. we tried to prevent that. we failed. that is reality. that is not going to change. that is situation in some respects resembles challenge we face in the cold war, albeit, much smaller, less scary scale. it's a problem we have to manage through a combination of diplomacy, deterrents and pressure through sanctions. but as important as all of those elements of that strategy are to preventing this thing from getting out of hand and protecting ourselves and our allies that is not how we're g

and north korea intensifies. north korea threatens to hit jim mathis warns this could end in the destruction of its people. this after trump vowed to hit north korea with "fire and fury." we then look at how attorney general jeff sessions is using the justice department to roll back decades of progress. on civilil r rights,s, voting r, rights and reform. >>s s a whole, i i think, has bn unfairly maligned and blamed for an acceptable of a few bad actors. speak with the head of the civil rights division at the department of justice in the obama administration until january. all that and more, coming up. ♪ amy: welcome to democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy y goodman. the trump administration sent mixed messages wednesday over the possibility of nuclear war with north korea, as secretary of state rex tillerson sought to defuse tensions, while defense secretary james mattis threatened a nuclear attack. on wednesday, mattis warned north korea not to take any action that could result in

and north korea. this is about two great friends, to great alliances, and it is in the breadbasket of the world, four of the five biggest economies in the world are centered out there and in one part of the discussion even have we posture what might happen in terms of preparation the first response from someone was the financial markets are going south immediately, and we all talk about that. we know that it's, in outbreak there would have a huge economic, financial impact globally. but to hear somebody say it as part of it, yes, we would expect and have a plan for this was a little bit jarring and probably a little bit more real given what's going on as recently as today with another test. >> you actually ended up taking a harder half of the question. >> well, i mean -- >> thank you. before we offer the audience a chance to weigh in, i want to ask about something i don't think you did address, and that is the significance of u.s. forward military presence in the western pacific. i want to get a japan

when we have south korea, north korea, and the u.s. all talking about preemption or preventive attack and others saying we will preempt your preemption, we could stumble across a red line by miscalculation. so if the talk about preventive attack or preemptive attack and this kind of rhetoric of never seen before, is that beyond hiroshima and nagasaki? all of that gets thrown into a very volatile mix of each side trying to determine what the other's intentions or likely actions are. north korea, if they feel they are about to attack, may feel they need to lash out first. >> bruce and phil, gentlemen, thank you both so, so much. >>> coming up here, we have -- we'll talk to a top senator, get his reaction to president trump's threats, warnings to new york. >>> also ahead, more on our other breaking news, the raid on the home of a former trump campaign chairman, paul manafort. stay here. hi..and i know that we have phonaccident forgiveness.gent, so the incredibly minor accident that i had tonight- four weeks without the car. okay, yup. goo

, china, and south korea? thank you. guest: an electromagnetic pulse is something people worry about. if you detonate a nuclear weapon city, atmosphere above a it will create a strong little magnetic shockwave -- a strong electromagnetic shock went back and burnout electronics. in certain conditions, it can cover a large area. some estimates i have seen say large parts of the united states. one thing we do not know is how much hardening has been done against it. consumer electronics would be burnt out. my understanding is the pulse from a nuclear weapon like this the timelinve would be too short. if you are trying to do it over north korea, you would not be able to control the area it covered. havoc on wreak north korea's neighbors. host: he talked about china and north korea responding. of the newl board york times says the president is speaking to china when he made the fire and fury common. how could china and russia stop this from escalating? what side with a be on? onst: -- what side with baby on?what sid

but north korea isn't syria. so you can't follow that same game plan with a north korea. you can't just, you know, strike an airstrip even with a nonnuclear weapon and then just see how it goes, right? you can't do that. >> fire and fury, right, is not a policy. i mean, again, this is the issue. what does that mean? you'll see. we'll see. >> it's a threat. >> right. how else can you take it? but then you have mattis and tillerson saying there's no change in the region. >> it could be nonnuclear, but does that matter? why would dow that? >> this is the problem with trump. even if he doesn't mean, nuclear, even if that was not his intent, reasonable people could think that. >> he did say very few countries have seen. >> like the world has never seen. >> yeah. >> but it only matters specifically, yes, i get china and i get this could be a great provocation to china to say as you said, we want stability more than anything else, so we will do "x" which they haven't done. that would be an amazing conclusion. it matters what north korea thinks. here's their statement. and their

well north korea has always been reckless and their program cations against south korea so it's easy to imagine they might conduct some kind of a provocation which would lead into a military conflict even a small military conflict but small military conflict would very quickly get out of the hands of the leaders in the countries and escalate into a major military conflict if we had another conventional war with north korea it's one that they would surely you'd lose and as they lost that war as they saw the regime about to collapse then they might use the nuclear weapons and some sort of a desperate. hell mary so to speak the other way we get into a nuclear war as if our threats were so bellicose and if the north korea believed they were about to launch a preemptive attack on them and destroy their regime then if they believe that they might actually use their nuclear weapons as a way of. having that off so they're two different ways to get into words both cases i would think they would be as a result of miscalculation that as a result of blundering into a nuclear war or not as a resu

and north korea reaching a concerning new >>> north korea threatening the u.s. territory of guam in response to two american bombers flying over the korean peninsula. >> it represents the greatest crisis since the cuban missile cris crisis. >> u.s. intelligence officials have assessed that north korea has produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead. >> they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> what he was basically doing is threatening a nuclear war against north korea. >> it's important for our president not to be unpredictab unpredictable. >> by using this kind of language we're playing into kim jong-un's hands. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> this is "new day," wednesday, august 9, 6:00. chris has the day off. bill we're with us. >> seismic day. >> north korea is threatening to attack the u.s. territory of guam, home to andersen air force base in response to u.s. bombers flying over the korean peninsula on monday. this after president trump's extraordinary warning to pyongyang that any threat to the u.s. w

north korea has chosen the path it now finds itself on. that, at a minimum, will lead to further suffering for its own people, and at most, could prove to be status traffic for the whole world. -- past traffic for the whole world. it does not have to be this way. north korea should forgo the path of provocation, forgo the path of further escalation. there is no reason why the people of north korea cannot share the normal, prosperous life of their neighbors. the world would welcome, not threaten them. so in this chamber, let us once again call on north korea to halt and reverse its nuclear and missile development programs. let us once again call on them to prioritize well-being of there andle over legal and destabilizing military program. north korea's security and well-being do not depend on nuclear weapons. they do not depend on far-reaching missiles. they do not depend on a myth of self-sufficient defiance of the wider world. to live in constant tension with the world cannot be in the interests of north korea's regime, let alone its peop

or ugh into north korea. we can that is one way influence the north korea people n the ground, getting outside information in there. the reason it influences them is because that information shows are getting and it is incorrect and wrong. host: can the u.s. government a larger role in doing that or are these outside groups talking about sort of the best way to do that right now? uest: i think the way that the united states government can help is by providing some some of the groups doing that work. rights act, up, again, for renewal this year, i think can provide good way for set aside grant money for the organizations doing good work. more calls, gus, line for republicans, go ahead. yes, good morning, thank you for c-span, i really appreciate the show so much. i'm just wondering how this guy power.sibly stay in he sounds like he's a totally nut job, if you will. his people d practically starve to death, hey don't have enough food and i really like the idea of the adio broadcasts, you know, if shine and ligh

there's a reason north korea has not invaded south korea. they fear overwhelming response from the united states. do you agree with that? >> no. and that sounds like something that would come out of someone involved with negotiating nuclear weapons and sanctions connected to the obama administration. there's a new sheriff in town in washington, d.c. there's a new approach to how we're going to deal with this particular issue in north korea, in iran and elsewhere. and, no, we should not just accept kim jong-un, even though the other side may want to just accept defeat right now. kim jong-un, as far as we know, still doesn't have the ability for that nuclear warhead to survive reentry from the upper atmosphere. we are going to responsibly work all of our options to make sure kim jong-un does not have that ability. no matter what the obama administration officials want to advise the trump administration to accept defeat, losing is not an option, and it's bad advice. i would encourage the trump administration to reject it in kind. >> sandra: con

and north korea. just a short time ago, rex tillerson saying quote, americans should sleep well at night. his comments just a day after president trump threatened fire and fury against the rogue nation. north korea countered making it's own threats to attack guam. home to 6,000 u.s. troops and 160,000 residents considered u.s. citizens. what are the options for the u.s. military in a situation like this one? joining me now, retired general barry mccaffrey. good to see you. we can start with the premise that all of know that any military option is not a good one. having said that. when you heard the president say fire and fury, did you consider it a threat of military action and when a president says words like that, what are our armed forces doing, if anything, to position themselves in the case they get called on? >> well, obviously very unhelpful comment by the president, you notice that tillerson and governor haley have made very moderate, sensible comments, they did organize a security counsel in

into south korea. when you consider the hit to korean goods such as korean-made impact ontotal net the south korean economy is 30 basis points. dril-quip, -- real quick , nikki haley is speaking right now. let us listen in. >> for her statement. and now gives the floor to the representative of japan. >> thank you, mr. president. japan welcomes the swift adoption of the presidential statement strongly condemning the most recent ballistic missile launch by north korea, which flew over japan. and also demanding north korea seize allly such action. this sends a strong and clear message to north korea that the international community will not accept its behavior. we urge north korea to respond to this call by the international community. japan will continue to work very closely with council members and all other member states to reach a comprehensive solution to the problems related to north korea. thank you, mr. president. ofi think the representative representative of japan, and i now give the floor to th

south korea. i think the chinese don't actually believe that the administration would go that far or the north koreans would go that far. so they're trying to nudge both sides towards the center. what i've been advocating, i don't mind the president's rhetoric, and a little madman here, it can be effective. if it's wedded to -- it seems to me a diplomatic overture. which is to say we're ready, if you'll give up your nuclear program and your missile program, we're ready to make peace with you, open an embassy and end the korean war. i would put a clear offer on the table. they won't accept it early on, but it would certainly give us the moral high ground, the ability to hold south korea, china, russia, and all of asia behind us. because ultimately, we may find that the only solution is simply long-term deterrence and squeezing north korea until something happens. >> it does seem like this is such a change from decades of administration policy, which has been to not have one on one direct confrontat

well, north korea responded as north korea does, through its state media, kcna. as you said, it state that the u.s. would suffer shameful defeat and final doom if it pursues extreme military sanctions and pressure. here in seoul, south korea's national security adviser spoke to his counterpart, h.r. mcmaster. they spoke about working closely together, as they do. obviously south korea, one of the united states' closest allies. at a time like this, south korea definitely needs the u.s. reiterating really the closeness and need for transparency in working together to try and ease tensions here on the korean peninsula. also we've learned that u.s. defense secretary jim mattis, when he was asked about the united states' readiness and what action may be taken, military or not, he responded by saying, "i don't tell the enemy in advance what i'm going to do. our readiness -- we are ready." as for the joint chiefs, chairman general joseph dunnford, he's on a scheduled trip to the region, going through hawaii, south korea, japan, as well as china, where of course north ko

a response to the president's warning to north korea and north korea's threat to guam. after months of stocks coasting to records, investors are showing some signs of caution. for example, gold, a typical safe haven, rising more than 1% to a two-month high. and wall street's fear gauge is up 21% this week. the vix index had previously been a historically low level. the u.s. dollar, once a safe bet in the global economy, down 8% this year. >>> remember that incident where united airlines forcibly dragged a passenger off a flight? the fallout from all of that is causing big changes industrywide. passengers being bumped from flights was at a record low last quarter. the 12 largest airlines bumped only 44 out of every million passengers. that's the lowest rate in 23 years of data. airlines typically oversell seats to make up for passengers who don't show up for flights. however, since the united airlines debacle, they've changed policies to make sure people give up seats voluntarily. >>> after google's crisis and the memo suggesting women are not biologically fit for tech r

evening friends we start tonight with the entire world focused on president trump's comments on north korea and the political fallout here in the united states the president stirred the entire political arena threatening to bring fire and fury to north korea the congressional reaction has been mixed although the president has an understanding of some in the senate about what the country is actually facing put yourself in president trump shoes for a moment where does your allegiance slide is it isn't your primary purpose is prezi united states to protect the american homeland from a nuclear weapon attack by a guy like kim jong il i'm my belief is that we're headed that way unless the world can stop north korea he's going to pick loam land defense over regional stability and he has to. redstone see it that way senate minority leader chuck schumer says the president's comments and method or reckless meanwhile dianne feinstein criticized the president's bombastic comments and ben cardin called drum statement the wrong message for a diplomatic solution for more of the reaction within the adminis

fight with north korea. korea but talk to the united -- the north koreans, my understanding is they want to not talk to south korea but talk to the united states directly. if these talks were to happen, that this came up in this conversation, what is the end point? be about andey what would be on the table? again, my understanding is that the north koreans their ultimate , goal is for the united states not to be on the korean parents a lot, that they be accepted as a country. or if there is some kind of unification that there be two systems for the korean peninsula and i'm interested in hearing are these complete nonstarters? , is there any gray area, or area where these things can be talked about ? >> i think they are nonstarters, notwithstanding former white house advisor steve bannon's abrasive one north korean position which is we might pull our troops out of south korea if they clampdown the missile program. i think that would be a nonstarter. i think, one country two systems would be a nonstarter. virt

and north korea going on. happened, is this that an indication there is nothing behind the scenes going on at the moment? >> it is possible, but i don't think so. it was close, you would not know about it. i think it is likely, but i korea access an integrated actor. missile launches is the way various release compete against each other. there is no breakthrough that anyone can see, so threatening japan along the way is in the context of the current exercises at the time when people are worried about america striking north korea. i don't see any reason why these two things can't be happening at the same time. >> we often talk about nuclear programs as threats, but they also act as great deterrence. in a way, north korea is basically saying if you attack us, we will go full throttle. when it comes to conventional weapons, south korea is a chess piece easily taken by north korea, but what i don't understand is why retaliate with japan? is this trying to draw in the u.s. to come in closer to take it out? >> i thi

north korea today, a show of defiance. the u.s. the enemy, kim jong-un and their weapons against the threat of president trump. >> fire and fury, like the world has never seen. >> reporter: and from the island of guam, now directly threatened by north korea, secretary of state rex tillerson, turning down the temperature. >> the american people should sleep well at night. >> reporter: and defending the president. >> what the president is doing is sending a strong message to north korea in language that kim jong-un would understand. because he doesn't seem to understand diplomatic language. >> reporter: that message reinforced today in another stark warning from defense secretary jim mattis that north korea should stop considering actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people. it would, he said, lose any conflict it initiates. mattis' comments followed a new, very specific threat from north korea, that it's preparing military plans to strike the american pacific island of guam. it's a sov

leaders in korea, i think it's very healthy that korea has now evolved into a society, that they can criticize and openly even prosecutes senior generals are not doing their job or misusing their authority and as a korean i think this is one of the unknown or unrecognized influences by our american brothers and sisters who have taught us these much appreciated traits, but i don't like the lawyers you guys have. [laughter] >> maybe i should not be saying this. anyway, we are not there yet, but we are getting there because we are now doing more than we did before. again, i must remind you that we still have not solved the tri- service jealousies and rivalries of the tri- services really need to focus on not their service. i'm a army guy, but i have maybe , you know. so, the tri- service rivalries really need to be suppressed and we need to think about the fact that what is most effective for the defense of the republic of korea and then we go into management or law. i divided this into organization , command and control, training and equipment and sustain. organization wise i've talked

go for a military strike, north korea could exact mass of the capital south korea appeared we always find ourselves back in this position in the international committee clearly exasperated with north will make north korea stop the behavior id est in doing for decades, literally. mark: weeks until the german election. what could it mean for the company's business if angela merkel content -- loses? this is bloomberg. ♪ vonnie: it is time enough for the stock of the hour. as much as 30% this morning. >> the leisure trend continues to make headlines. the struggles that really are the whole industry. same-store sales are now projected to be 4.6% for the second quarter. the worst quarter since the third quarter of 2016. it really confirms the weakness from dick's sporting goods and other companies we heard from. there were other concerns the , the inventory problem and the discounting they are having to do, putting pressure on the growth margins, saying especially as the quarter progressed, discounting get heavier and new companies like under armour and nike are coming out with big ticke

because it would destroy north korea's program north korea told me that. the united states is preparing for war with north korea that's according to what comes amid rising tensions between washington and pyongyang.

and south korea strike first against north korea china will take action. and the global times newspaper said if north korea launched missiles first, this is a china-controlled newspaper, china would remain neutral which is different than what you just said. are you confident that china is playing ball and on the u.s. side here? >> i think if indeed they launch first and china remains neutral they have a big problem. they will cease to exist after a few minutes of that war and this is dangerous territory. there's no question about it. >> i want to play more of the threat that the president issued to north korea, one of the threats he issued just this afternoon. here he is. >> this man will not get away with what he's doing, believe me. and if he utters one threat in the form of an overt threat which, by the way, he has been uttering for years and his family has been uttering for years or if he does anything with respect to guam or any place else that's an american territory or an american ally he will truly regret it and he will regret it fast. >> north kor

secretary tillerson repeated as relates to north korea. he's repeated his call for opening talks with the north if it stops testing missiles. the messages from leaders are all over the place. james mattis issued a harsh warning to north korea saying the dictator kim jong-un would lose any arms race with the united states. in a statement today, secretary mattis also said north korea should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people. moments ago, reporters asked the state department spokeswoman about the seemingly conflicting statements from the trump administration. >> i think the united states and some of you may disagree with us, but the united states is on the same page. whether it's the white house, the state department, the department of defense, we're speaking with one voice. the world is in fact speaking with one voice. >> i want to show you in our wall a look at the possible ranges of a north korean strike based on a missile test that happened last month. defense exp

and north korea. was not mentioned by the critics tonight is that the president and nikki haley succeeded on saturday in bringing together a coalition to unanimously slap a new on north korea. the administration is still working diplomatic channels but it had not yet come close to stopping the threat on north korea. sean. >> sean: ed henry ed henry. it joining us now from the pentagon, lucas tomlinson. lucas, was the latest there? >> sean, the explosive report largely echoes what a top u.s. air force officer said said back in 2015, it's never shown that they could take a warhead and have it successfully reenter earth. in the last month, north korea has demonstrated to intercontinental ballistic missile test. each one now putting the united states in range. the first, it went 1700 miles into space and flew for 39 m@n.@%@-the second on july 2, 2300 miles into space and was in the air for 45 minutes. the longest a farthest missile test. seven times higher into space and the orbit of nasa's international

states and south korea did in north korea. this is debatable. one point that needs to be mentioned is that who is ultimately responsible for the start of the korean war? this is something that in china this is still not taught, but there is absolutely incontro veritable evidence that the korean war started because kim il-sung and stalin sat down and had conversations and planned it, and if you want further evidence, i strongly suggest that you look at the woodrow wilson center, one of my former students by is in the audience, james person, one of the leading experts in the country on international documentation about the korean war, and i think the evidence of this, how the war started in the first place, and who bears ultimate cholesterollal cuppability is very clear. >> i -- very briefly. from the little i know, greg is completely correct that the south koreans don't think it's a big new deal. they're kind of used to that. for 70 years. i'm not sure it's true for japan. i'm not sure it's true for guam. and so we need to go b

because we've heard bluster like this from north korea before. it falls far short of a suggestion that there will be an attack on a u.s. territory, jacqueline. >> absolutely. experts have been quick to point out that this isn't even the first time that guam has been in north korea's crosshairs. while tensions are high, none of this -- it's not like this is the first time any of this is happening. every other time it has sort of quieted down and deescalated over time. but this is the first time the u.s. is really using this rhetoric that we are going to rain down fire and fury and then to say that even that didn't go far enough. that sort of rhetoric has drawn a lot of criticism. >> kelsey, let's go now to what the president suggested, a surprise for the pentagon and many others, that the u.s. is not taking a military option off the table in response to what's happening in venezuela. something that h.r. mcmaster said just a few days ago was not a consideration. let's remind people of what the president-elect then in december of 2016 said about u.s

the unification of korea is what would be next in line and there are a lot of folks in south korea that would like to see that happen. it would be very difficult and expensive but better than trying to replace one bad regime with another. there are some options but again, china is the key. the commitment of americans to be tough and make sure we can defend any missile strike on ourselves as well as our allies would again make the marketability of these north korean missiles, the sale price would be much lower. >> jon: h.r. mcmaster, the president's national security advisor has said that a nuclear arms north korea would be intolerable to this president. it appears that they have all the goods. we know they have the icbms, they have miniaturize the warheads to make it possible. having said it is intolerable, what does the president do, what does a national security advisor say now? >> the last three presidents have said it was intolerable, both political parties have set it but yet we are here at the brink now, frankly, i think it is too late to just be -- the political speak we have, we

on how to deal with north korea, and also the fact that south korea, and also the fact that south korea has to decide on a military option if that appears to be the case. but at the same time you have us president trump talking about the military options being locked and loaded about fire and fury — do these kind of comments undermine yours, does it send a mixed signal to pyongyang? you have mentioned the korean peninsular without the consent of south korea — you can't... no military option can be available. south korea's president moon asked bya south korea's president moon asked by a journalist, who was making the point that north korea doesn't seem to be responding to the offer of talks from president moon on what is his plan for that. north korea has made it clear it is very angry at the latest un sanctions. the president saying, whether he asked if he had plans to resume dialogue, he said he would wait for conditions to be right and send an emissary then, but he made the point that, as far as the us and he was concerned, north korea was approaching a red line. by introducing st

should quit its whileses with south korea north korea stops its missile launches. north korea doesn't zone exercises every summer and but china has said nothing about north korea terminating its exercises. why is the focus on the u.s. and south korean exercises? we are talking with bruce bennett of the rand corporation about the joint military exercises taking place this week between the u.s. and south korea. -- host: give us an idea of what drills, whats -- are they testing out? guest: we're working with the basic concept of dealing with the north korean invasion of the south or other north korean provocations. train andrying to prepare people to coordinate and also, it is a test of the concepts they have laid out in planning. those are the things they are trying to do with the exercises and have enduring frack -- for decades. a call from chuck, you are on with bruce been, good morning. -- bruce bennett, good morning. caller: i have a question. given the high level of threats forth, wouldn't it be wise to postpone his military until the rhetoric owned down for a w

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we will continue the conversation on the latest from north korea and the threats from north korea and u.s. reaction. we are joined by patrick cronin, with the center for a new american security, the asia-pacific security program's senior director. joining us from yonsei university in seoul, south korea, associate professor john delury, associate professor in chinese studies. thank you for being with us this morning. professor guillory -- professor delury, i will start with you. i asked dana williams how things are in guam. what is the mood in seoul in general? hello, thank you for having me. it is interesting to hear that report from guam. there are some similarities in south korea. if you showed up, you would not sign in thetect any united states or globally. there is so much attention now to north korea pay the fact that office, wellin my within artillery range -- we are in the northern part of seoul. it has been some a quiet on campus, but there are no drills. we are not being told how to duck and cover. at this point, there is certainly no outward sign. when you talk people, there

in korea it's compared to u.s. which is really strong military and which people pay their deepest and sincere respect. in korea, the level of respect is really low. i want to ask a question, how can you raise the level of respect that people say it can pay in the republic of korea? >> yeah, andrew, you had a two-part question. one part is about the duration of service in military and the other part was gaining respect from the general public. i think for your direct question that it is upon the military leaders to be leaders and so confucios thinking, misunderstood think that anal and seniority gives privileges. it's not like that at all. respect should always be earned. so korean society as well as korean military -- this is not just the military problem. we see this in korean middle schools and high schools and college and every and in all aspects of korean life. .. i'm confident we will be able to gain the respect from the korean people. concerning your comments about reduced deduction and service time, so that

north korea has continued unabated. might this be the thing that changes kim jong-un's regime and make something twice? guest: look, part of the reason why using diplomacy as a tool is because in 1994, was the regime gained nuclear capability, it essentially had a trump card over the rest the world. the reason they pursued the nuclear program was because they knew once they had capability, the u.s. cannot credibly go in without risking the loss of millions of lives in south korea and japan. those lives were already at risk because north korea has a massive military 50 miles on the border. -- japan always been has always been a range of nonnuclear missiles. is the correct way to change the rhetoric? it may be. the reality is with the north koreans now able to, as far as analyst can say, likely to have a nuclear icbm in the near you can't simply go and threaten them because they know essentially they have this thing and you can't go in and threaten without risking millions of lives. host: how has the program grown so quic

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no one out north koreas north korea. he can say whatever he wants, but north korea will make him pay. >> let's bring bill in for a second. it's important to note, because i have heard from some people, while all this coverage is scary, it's ramping things up and some have said it reminds them of before the iraq war, all the warmongering going on. it's important to note that actually i haven't met anybody who has said that the united states should bomb north korea or that this is a good idea or will really show them. in fact, where you are in south korea, the new president who was lel elected in may has taken a different view. he feels that while they need the missile defense system now and south korea is always on high alert, that there is still a negotiating avenue ahead of us. >> reporter: absolutely right, there was a statement from president moon's office this morning. calling on north korea once again to stop its provocations. but every time they say that, they add that the door to dialogue is still open e. and pres

tonight north korea put on notice. defense secretary james mattis warning the regime away from any attack on the u.s. the dprk should cease any consideration of actions, mattis said in a statement, that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people. the comments appeared to be part of a delicate walk-back of president trump, surprisingly belic belicose and the north on tuesday. >> they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> reporter: overnight rex tillerson fought to calm fears as he went to asia. >> nothing i've seen suggests the situation has changed in the last 24 hours. i think america should sleep well at night. i have no concerns about this particular rhetoric of the last few days. >> reporter: this morning the president put an even finer point on his fire and fury comments, touting u.s. capabilities on twitter. my first order as president was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. it is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before. in fact, trump h

troops in south korea. but it is interesting to note that there is a nuanced difference between what the new president of south korea is suggesting in terms of handling north korea and what donald trump is doing. so lest everybody believe that south korea is very happy that donald trump is using the rhetoric that he's using, there are some differences in the way the south korean leadership seize this conflict. >> yeah. exactly right. the new president moon is much keener on diplomacy and on dialogue with the north than his predecessor. i mean, he has allied that to a request to the united states for more thaad anti-missile dwiensz because he wants that level of reassurance. but i would say south korea's president maybe is much closer to the chinese who see dialogue as the key to this. the chinese see north korea's security as the key. once kim feels secure, they believe, you know, he will ratchet down the level of rhetoric. well, that's yet to be proven. but certainly here in south korea the president would

and north korea where north korea has its weapons lined up. again, they can attack the region at any time if they want to. they know they would face incredible repercussions. that's the only thing that would be holding them back. but given the heightened tension on the peninsula, heightened security concerns, we are hearing calls from the president of south korea for the country to up its defense capabilities and capacity, similar sentiments echoed by lawmakers in japan. officials here are trying to lower the tension in the region. they haven't responded directly about the incendiary comments made by president trump, pointing the finger at pyongyang, calling for calm there and said north korea created the problem here. alisyn. >>> if u.s. intelligence assessments are accurate, north korea is on a fast track to becoming a full-fledged nuclear power. the reclusive regime has purportedly produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that could fit inside a missile capable of hitting the u.s. mainland. cnn's barbara starr has more on their advancing cap

we are headed that way unless north korea stops. put yourself in president trump's shoes for a moment. where does your allegiance lie? isn't your primary purpose as president of the united states, to protect the american homeland, from a nuclear weapon attack by a guy like kim jung-un? my belief is that we are headed that way unless the world can stop north korea. he is going to pick homeland defense over regional stability and he has to. for 30 years, this has failed. this is not a language problem. this is a north korean regime, trying to get the capability to strike america, the ultimate insurance policy for regime survivability. no president should allow this to happen weecht failed for 30 years. it is time to try something new. >> senator, secretary of state rex tillerson just landed in guam, speaking to reporters there. he said our telephone lines remain open. he says this is not an escalation. he said president trump was simply trying to speak in language that kim jung-unwould understand in terms of the rhetoric. does it seem

michael: they play into north korea and north korea's strategic mindset. they can point to this as being belligerent rhetoric coming from the united states. it does raise tensions, but there is nothing other than a love commentary and statements. -- a lot of commentary and statements. the testing announcement, there is nothing tangible other than rhetoric. sarah: let's dig down into what is tangible, because the president met with his top security officials. what options are on the table for the united states' side? michael: the united states now has sanctions, legislation passed last week. the united states can conduct very surgical and tough sanctions on north korea, financial institutions, a power they did not have before. there is diplomacy, diplomacy they can undertake, and there are military options, but right now there is no proof whatsoever the united states is undertaking any policy indicating military action or preemptive lee terry action. there are things we could see we have not seen. sarah: what would we see? are you concerned this could be a

we should demand that they play ball i north korea. as far as rhetoric goes, this is a crazy man, he might as well know that we can do what we say we do in terms of the rhetoric itself. there is nothing wrong with conveying what we have. we don't want to get to that state, but if he doesn't know that we are serious, then he will not take us seriously. this is been the whole problem. >> pete: that's why doubling down on sanctions at this point, and may help bring china along, but it won't solve things. how many miniaturized nukes he has -- if you give up your nukes, you die in a ditch. he gave up the nukes after the iraq war and that's what happened. stopping them before they get them can proliferate them, it's so critically important. i go back to around because iran is even worse. they're cohabiting with north korea to get these very same weapons. under perpetual black know from these two states -- before we're talking talking about preventing north korea from development. i don't know why we talk about that. it's important to talk ab

south korea, the u.s. ally in the region, making a point of saying today through their spokesperson that listen, there is not a crisis. there's not an impending calamity on the peninsula here. that message perhaps to temper the president's message there. of course, we saw the reaction. not just from media or from republican and democratic lawmakers, john mccain included, but also from the north koreans as well. you had what appeared to be a threat from north korea following the president's statement saying that it will bring nuclear war to the continental u.s. from a rhetorical standpoint, certainly an escalation following the president's remarks. >> can i ask you about the president's tweet about the nuclear arsenal? what do we know about any changes that have been made since he took office in efforts to modernize the nuclear arsenal? >> the president's claim in his tweet that his first order was to modernize and it's now modernized since the six months he has been in office is frankly misleading, for one

and north korea. from washington journal, this is about 30 minutes. >> joining us now from los angeles is the senior international researcher at the rand corporation. he is here to discuss u.s.-south korea joint military exercises taking place this week and the threat from north korea. thank you are joining us. >> good morning. host: tell us exactly what will take place tomorrow. what is this joint exercise? the exercise, which is about to take off, is mainly a command post exercise. command post for combined forces with north korea and links them all together with all of the other commands helpghout the peninsula, the new leaders arrive on the peninsula learn how to work together. this is mainly a coordination activity of the commanders. what is the purpose? is this in reaction to the recent rationing -- ratcheting up of rhetoric between the united states and pyongyang? or is this different? long-term thing done for decades. usually in the june and july timeframe. by august, you're ready to get the p