buffett owns this railroad and it was filled and headed to other refineries. any of two or 3000 people, white blue-collar who depend their livelihoods on working directly or in directly for chevron. you're surrounded with examples of workers, or employment involving transportation, refining or use of fossil fuel. one of the things i described in the book is the difficulty the environmental movement faces, making this idea of a just transition to green jobs, two equivalent wages, union protection real for people in the oil industry. tony and many people here may remember as a pioneering label environmentalist is one of the first people to try to build these coalitions between environmentalist and chemical plant workers. as i described in the book two years ago steelworkers which is where the workers are now part of they had a nationwide oil worker striking contract campaign, the first one in years in the bay area. there was an inspiring expression of solidarity by 350.org. shared peace, asian-pacific environmental network, they will all one up to the picket lin

. >> ron, we heard from warren buffett earlier. still got his big holding in apple. is that something you agree with >> this is more of a stock picker's market. i don't know that you'll get much macro push, assuming tax reform comes in 2018 we have to wait on that and for a variety of other issues like infrastructure build and things like that. so i think when you look at an apple of a mcdonald's, stocks that have delivered on their promises that seems to be the place to be. i'm relatively agnostic about the market itself given where we sit. i tend to differ with the other two guests about what the fed is going to be doing. i don't think they'll get to tapering but i think it will be delayed somewhat because fiscal stimulus is not coming as quickly as people think. >> the president has been waiting for it. >> never made a speech on health care ever. >> i'm not sure the market is convinced or baking this in at out all. also before this, he created a rift with the members of the congress and picked a fight with mitch mcconnell who he needs to get tax reform done. >> th