but he was by now more marginalized than ever at the fbi. and so in july of 2001, when that memo from the phoenix office pleading for investigations of flight schools made its way to headquarters, it was not passed on to o'neill or mawn in new york. nor was the struggle that august of the minnesota office to investigate the alleged 20th hijacker, zacarias moussaoui. the leaders of the most sophisticated office in the fbi, the office that under o'neill had been dealing with these matters for six years, apparently were out of the loop. >> john had heard the alarm bells too, yet he felt that he was frozen out, that he was not in a capacity to really do anything about it anymore because of his relationship with the fbi. so it was a source of real anguish for him. >> narrator: 13 months after that briefcase incident, with the investigation still open, a well-placed leak to a newspaper made sure his government career was over. >> the new york timeis now starting to ask questions about that incident, both at the headquarters level and at the new yo

fact the fbi is working on that story. this celptocracy movement, the dictator manafort worked for, that's why they were listening in on him and something about how much they knew about paul manafort before manafort became trump's campaign chairman. how much they knew about him and his previous work in the former soviet union and his money. all right? they were already deep into paul manafort before the campaign started. and that surveillance on him starting in 2014 was totally unrelated to his work on the trump campaign. now, according to cnn, at some point last year, that surveillance on the ukraine stuff stopped. petered out. fbi no longer had the evidence to be able to convince a court that they ought to be able to continue to listen in on paul manafort talking about matters involving money looted out of ukraine. the surveillance some point in 2016 stopped. but then we also know last year the fbi started a new investigation you have that heard of related to the russian attack on last year's presidential election to try

the fbi's raid? july was conducted with a search warrant that allowed fbi agents to get into manafort's house without knocking, by picking the lock on his front door presumably to keep manafort prom being able to destroy evidence once he heard agents knocking. at least that's why we think judges tend to approve that tactic with a search warrant. we've known that the muller inquiry was afwresz sieggressiv questioning but before tonight, before the reporting from the new yo"new york times", before t we didn't know all this stuff. quoting from the times, december spen -- dispensing with the pace. mr. muller's team used what some describe as shock and awe tactics to intimidate witnesses and potential targets of the inquiry. one former prosecutor telling the times tonight quote this is more consistent with how you'd go after an organized crime. joining me is my guest. let me ask you about that quote and that take from that person that you spoke to for the article and also reflected in the headline of toni

of what was wrong with the fbi. how did mueller make it right? >> well, that wasn't the half of it. in the weeks after 9/11, the fbi rounded up 1,200 people, none of whom belonged to al qaeda. some of them were treated very harshly. the fbi's internal communications systems were a wreck. >> so what did he do? >> over the course of two years, with tremendous turnover, the average counterterrorism director at the fbi lasted less than a year, gradually, mueller righted the ship. and got to steer in the direction of, we can't just investigate crimes after they have, we have to serve legally as an intelligence service, and we have to not only combat the war on terror, but at the same time protect our civil liberties. that balancing act was very hard. >> was he better situated to handle the intel given the background he had. >> very much so. if you're a marine commanding troops, as mueller was, and you send your troops up the hill, you go up the hill. so for 12 years, mueller went up the hill. and people followed him. >>

during that time the fbi was listening to paul manafort's phone. it's possible those conversations were collected. >> so, evan was the president right when he asserted, remember that tweet, he said ---oi don'te the exact wording, but obama had -- >> yeah wirings was tapped. the justice department denied the president's own line was wiretapped. we should know manafort does have a residence in trump tower. it's not clear when the fbi was doing surveillance on him in there, but i can see, you can see the president supporters coming out and saying that the president was right all along. >> appreciate it. it's a lot to dig into with his qualified panel tonight. cnn analyst car bernstein, john dean, and national security analyst who was a former fbi and special agent. jeff, how significant is this and how tough is this to get a warrant? >> this is very significant. first of all, just to get a warrant like this, you have to persuade the court there is probable cause to believe -- how she used to do this kind of work -- that this was the agent of a foreign

maybe the fbi didn't do its job. so this letter has just gone out from grassley's office tonight but i think it fair to see this as just the latest in a series of senator grassly's attempts to go after the fbi as if they are the real bad actor or suspect. the senator demanded the fbi hand overall its fisa warrants, the and all of the fisa warrants surveillance warrants and all the requests for fisa warrants, all they issued in the investigation, just hand over the warrants and your on going investigation so the committee could check out much of the investigation was based on the trump russia dossier created by the former agent. this summer the senator spent considerable energy trying to discredit and criticize the acting head of the fbi at the time andrew mccabe who is a potentially corroborating witness for james comey and any obstruction of justice inquiry into the president firing james comey. he's one of the fbi officials who comey says he told about the president's demands about the russia investigation at the t

the senator writes a letter to the fbi, saying "i write to inquire about whether the fbi provided the term campaign with a briefing or other warning regarding attempts to -- white house correspondent for the "washington examiner" joins us now. >> the fbi not yet responding to this, the fbi is kind of notorious for responding slowly to congressional inquiries. this is a really interesting line of inquiry from senator bradley. we have grassley essentially asking the fbi how he could be a conduit but not enough of a threat to warn the potential future president that he's working for that he could be a conduit for russian interest. there is tension between what did or did not happen with the fbi and interestingly, he cites a case from 2008 where senator john mccain who's been running for president had a hired manafort's business partner and grassley claims the fbi did provide john mccain with the defensive briefing to warn about the risks of having that man on his campaign so john mccain could take action. if that turns out to be accurate, that could prove crucial to asking why the fbi an

they're mad at the fbi and they want information from the fbi about them receiving the dossier? they were given a deadline of september 1st. this latest new about the subpoenas comes, of course, amid tension within the house intelligence committee. last week the top system on the committee, adam schiff warned the investigation might result in two separate partisan reports, with you by the democrats, one by the republicans. after reports that two staffers on the committee flew to london unbeknownst to the other members of the committee in an effort to contact the author of the dossier, christopher steele. that had democrats voicing their fears that the counterparts were more interested in trying to discredit dossier rather than trying to substantiate its allegations. now we have these new subpoenas. from the committee and to the fbi from the justice department for documents related to the daws yai. i'm not sure what to make of it but i am very happy to say joining us is adam schiff on the house committee. thank you for being here tonight. i appreciate your time. >> you bet. thank

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also, the justice department and fbi i believe formally denied that charge. so it's a little closer, but not a horseshoe at this point. >> it's significant that the fbi and the department of justice said that trump -- >> meaning that he was not a target. and even if trump were picked up in this kind of fisa surveillance, he would normally be minimized, which means that they would screen out what he was saying and his name -- or his identity would be masked in the communication. and the only way that they would reveal to anyone looking at it who it was that manafort was talking to is if they needed to know the identity of the person in order to make sense of the communication or it gave additional information. >> well w it would be minimized if he was not involved in the investigation. >> absolutely. that's right. >> but if he was involved. >> that's right. >> i mean -- >> if he was just talking to manafort about campaign strategy or about nothing to do with collusion or anything like that. >> right. it would be minimized. but if they were talking about russia

> it's the same fbi. it's the same group of fbi agents working on it. >> but it's james comey? >> correct. ultimately, he was the supervisor of it all. >> okay. >> but it means that manafort has been investigated intensively for a very long time, including when he was very close to the president, president-elect, candidate trump. and the question is, what was disclosed? the other point worth making is it's not just that simple to get a warrant like this, a fisa warrant. that means the fbi, twice, had to assemble an enormous amount of information, saying to a judge, look, there is probable cause to believe that paul manafort is an agent of foreign intelligence. they persuaded a judge twice. so there does exist considerable evidence. it doesn't mean he's guilty of anything. it is important. >> to emphasize two things you said there that i think are worthy of stating again. number one, there are tapes now in someone's possession of these conversations that paul manafort had. that is not something we knew bef

the fbi was monitoring him. with regard to this idea that any communications with trump could be picked up, that is true. that would be called incidental conversations. that doesn't mean that the president himself was being targeted. unless there's connection between those conversations and foreign intelligence being sought under the order, those would actually be screened out of any kind of communications that the fbi would monitor. i agree that there's pressure being put on manafort to give more information. underlying counter intelligence investigation with criminal prosecutions potentially coming out of it. the primary threat here is the attack on our democracy by russia. so they are going to use any leverage they have against manafort to get him to talk about that if they believe he has information. >> david gregory, cnn has exclusively this reporting, this bombshell that he was actual ly wiretapped twice. a little bit of color of what it's been like at paul manafort's house while this investigation has bee

maybe the fbi didn't do its job. so this letter has just gone out tonight but i think it fair to see this as just the latest in a series of senator grassly's attempts to go after the fbi as if they are the real bad actor or suspect. senator demanded the fbi hand overall its fisa warrants, the surveillance warrants and all the requests for fisa warrants, all they issued in the investigation, just hand over the warrants and your on going investigation so the committee could check out much of the investigation was based on the trump russia dossier created by the former agent. this summer the senator spent considerable energy trying to discredit and criticize the acting head of the fbi at the time andrew mccabe who is a potentially corroborating witness for james comey and any obstruction of justice inquiry into the president firing james comey. he's one of the fbi officials who comey says he told about the president's demands about the russia investigation at the time that behavior happened before comey was fired. but h

the fbi and the cia. these were not strangers here, and there's no question we were surprised at the final report. how and why that happened is beyond me. i don't know. but in hindsight, we probably -- when that came out, yes, we should have done that ahead of time. on the off chance because we didn't know what the official final paper was going to look like. we should have written our own. these are our beliefs, rick, blah, and this is the reason, but we didn't. caused lots of problems. >> this is about the tv program. i watched the two episodes that were aired. is there any way to see the other episodes? i would like to see them as well. i will say this, there is hope. and there is -- the reason there is hope is because the president of abc announced to the press that the assets will be shown in some format, whether it's cable, whether it's netflix, whether it's back on abc proper. now, he said that one week after he cancelled us. but -- no, i have hope. i have hope. it's sort of one of these, stay tune

he says the fbi is acting like president obama is in charge. he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. give us the background on this. was this -- this was for a book you're writing, correct? >> exactly, i was writing about corruption and the legal profession and the courts, and most state bars will cover up for politically prominent lawyers. i thought this would be the perfect case study to file a grievance against mrs. clinton and her attorneys for destroying an email, but part of the "special report" is to get evidence and support the grievances, then i got this letter from the fbi telling me it was not a matter of public interest. >> tucker: meaning it's not in the public's interest, not meaning to public doesn't care, but that is not good for the country. >> no, saying the public doesn't care. >> tucker: huh. >> three reasons not to release it. they can say that the subject, mrs. clinton, is dead, which is not, or she has consented to release, which she hasn't, or this is a matter of public interest, and the fbi, despite the fact that i sent the news articles

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the fbi raided his home in virginia. >> of course we knew that. we didn't know he had a storage facility until this hour, and we didn't know they raided it. that's significant. do you know whether president trump spoke to manafort while he was under surveillance? that could be crucial. >> they were still talking early this year, well after the campaign, and it is it a time that we've learned the fbi was listening to manafort's phone calls, it is possible those phone conversations were collected during surveillance as they were listening to them. that we don't have a specific answer for, but it is possible, erin. >> which is a crucial point. and, of course, the president had said vocally that he was wiretapped and he meant that to mean not just phones, but all kinds of surveillance, was he right? >> not exactly. the justice department has spoken out about this. they deny the president's own lines were wiretapped. it's possible he was picked up on manafort's surveillance, manafort has a residence in trump tower, it's not clear if the fbi did surveil

let two senior fbi officials testify up on capitol hill. what are you learning? >> the senate judiciary committee wants to talk to these two senior fbi officials, who may have firsthand knowledge about the circumstances around james comey's firing. and because the judiciary committees are looking into the issues of possible fbi interference. what was interesting earlier this summer, the justice department said, no. they cannot interview them in a private, transcribed interview, in a private setting, because this could potentially interfere with the special counsel's own investigation. the judiciary committee went back to them, said we can narrow a request, we can just talk about just the comey firing, not the investigation at large. and they came back and the justice department just is not cooperating with the judiciary committee going forward. and this raises questions about whether or not the special counsel is, in fact, laooking into the circumstances of comey's firing, looking into the issue of obstruction of justice, and that could be

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did it inspire the fbi? as ron says, it didn't inspire the fbi, and secondly, the interesting story about the dossier, it's not how did we find out about it. but to what extent is it true? that's the conversation that this house committee does not want to have. once devin nunez stepped down they were supposed to act in better faith. they're not. >> we know one way the fbi got the dossier. senator john mccain says that he gave it to them when he came upon it. what were they supposed to do j just push it back toward senator mccain? >> of course not, and of course they had to look into it. and they had to look into other things that are undisputed that happened in the campaign. this is an ongoing effort by the republicans on the house intelligence committee not to do their jobs, not to look into a national security threat to the united states. not to look into an effort to undermine the core of our democracy, our electoral system. instead to create cover and diversion for donald trump. and as david said, they d

and then removing those documents from the fbi? and of course, also admitted before congress that he had his best friend leaked the contents of the memos to "the new york times" in the hopes that it would bring about a special counsel which in fact, it did. we can't forget about the comey testifying the former obama attorney general loretta lynch had pressured him into calling the clinton investigation and matter in public and he ended up listening and doing that. the former fbi director is also a massive hypocrite. he claims to have detailed notes and memos about private conversations that he had with president trump but he didn't write a single word out about his conversations with loretta lynch. here's what's important. if this country still cares about respecting the constitution, the rule of law, equal application of the law, it is time to reopen the clinton server case and investigate everything that comey prematurely exonerated hillary clinton four. comey himself needs to be held accountable for his actions but they are inex

but the fbi, three days of white house briefings. the fbi might call that a clue as to what the expectations are from the white house. >> there are a rising number of clues and a bill of charges the department of justice is pursuing against comey. and many have had questions about his conduct, his statements, his actions leading up in the week and indeed the months before his firing by president trump. suddenly the left has gone silent on the issue of james comey's conduct. it's interesting to watch the national left-wing media no longer so enamored with the fired fbi director. no longer questioning at least in their reporting and ope -- os the judgment of the president. he looks rock solid in the judgment of the director he fired. >> it also coincided with hillary's book tour. when comey was providing this testimony he laid out the fact he leaked all this information. and the senators sat there and thanked him. and he should have been read hits rights and taken out of the room in cuffs. comey has a long track record. i have been on

the fbi told him not to. following fbi advice. that the his excuse/alibi. that is checkable and today, the same artists who forced administration to admit trump's wiretap allegation was false, today, they are at it again. today they failed a lawsuit demanding jeff sessions prove his alibi. prove his excuse for lying on his security clearance application. people today filed a lawsuit to force the justice department and fbi to back up that assertion, if they can. to disclose the instructions that the fbi gave to attorney general jeff sessions when he was applying for that security clearance. according to the groups that filed the suit, quote, if jeff sessions wants us to believe his excu excuse, he should prove it. these documents should be easy to produce and we look forward to receiving them promptly from the fbi. you know, benefit of the doubt, maybe the fbi did tell jeff sessions he didn't have to disclose his meetings with russians when he was applying for a security clearance. maybe they gave him that instruction which is what he says happened. if so, t

joining me now former fbi assistant director james kallstrom. good to hear from you jim, nice to have you on the show. nice to be with you. >> liz: jim what do you make of the news story? >> it's not the least bit surprising, liz. i've been saying this for what, over a year. i mean this whole thing was a joke to begin with. the so-called investigation of hillary clinton. the day that referral came from the intelligence community through the department and with a little note on there, don't call it an investigation, and the fact that a grand jury was never impaneled would tell any investigator i don't know if you've only been on the job a day that this whole thing was not going to be legitimate and it wasn't. it was an absolute joke, and it put a great risk to the reputation of a great agency. it embarrassed just the i don't know what the word would be of all of the people in the fbi and law enforcement for that matter, and it was disgraceful. i mean call me, you know, in his testimony before congress was in my view not forthcoming. he did nothin

that was long before fbi agents finished their work. mr. comey even circulated an early draft statement to select members of the senior fbi leadership. the outcome of an investigation should not be pre-judged while fbi agents are still hard at work trying to gather the facts. the senators' letter came up today during the white house press briefing. >> senators grassley and graham revealed today that they have evidence suggesting that former fbi director comey made a decision to not charge hillary clinton several months before the investigation actually wrapped up and before they interviewed hillary clinton. does the president know about this, and does he believe that that adds weight to his decision to fire comey? >> i'm not sure if he is aware of that revelation, but if it is as accurate as they say it is, i think that would certainly give cause and reason that james comey was not the right person to lead the fbi. >> joining the discussion now, ron klain, former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden and al gore and former senior aide

they're mad at the fbi and they want information from the fbi about them receiving the dossier? this latest new about the subpoenas comes, of course, amid tension within the house intelligence committee. last week the top system on the committee, adam schiff warned the investigation might result in two separate partisan reports, with you by the democrats, one by the republicans. after reports that two staffers flew to london unbeknownst to the other members of the committee in an effort to contact the author of the dossier, christopher steele. that had democrats voicing their fears that the counterparts were more in trying to discredit the dossier rather than trying to substantiate its allegations. now we have these new subpoenas. i am very happy to say joining us is adam schiff on the house committee. thank you for being here tonight. i appreciate your time. >> you bet. thank you, rachel. >> i described this as strange news. i will admit to being a bit baffled by this. can i just ask if this is something you were surprised to learn tonight? did you know this was happening? can

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the fbi is a perfect example. it's a really important agency in american life and we need the fbi not be politicized. we need to have the american people believe they can trust it. i also think that about the senate intelligence committee. richard burr, republican of north carolina. mark warner, democrat of virginia. these are actual adults who can work together and don't start with their republican and democratic labels. we need the senate intelligence committee to work. i don't forestall a future discussion about independent counselors, special prosecutor. but i think people need to recognize it's not going to be a panacea. because when you do that, somebody will have to appoint who that person is. if it's a three judge panel, two of the judges will have been democrats, one will have been a republican, and then we'll start saying these are political hacks as well. the long-term challenge we face, and frankly the end game that russia has, is trying to exploit our internal divisions. and right now i care a lot abo

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he is friendly with james comey, former fbi director. he's not going to investigate what the fbi was doing or whether or not that was justified. >> seems unlikely. but i have to wonder, obviously, the fisa court's deliberations are secret, but that judge --whoever it was who signed off roughly a year ago and now presumably knows that they didn't get much out of it at least according to cnn's sources on that wiretap it was inconclusive. so i think maybe that judge is wondering was there really anything to in that the executive branch brought to me and asked to surveil the political adversaries of the party in power. and that goes to questions about who authorized this in the executive branch, what did the president know about it, what did president obama know about it specifically. paul: kim, shouldn't james clapper, who we saw in that clip, deny that there was any fisa warrant, shouldn't he at least be asked to testify under oath to the house and senate intelligence committees. >> and what about james comey? i mean, what i'd like to know

and how they got away with telling the fbi drop dead instead of the fbi or u.s. marshals seizing that server is beyond me. but that's part of the same mentality that had comey writing a get out of jail free card for hillary back in late april. lou: and an fbi that to this day says it's incumbent on someone seeking truth to provide assurance and empirical evidence that there is a public interest in a case surrounding, say, a former secretary of state, her email server, and what she did with it and 33,000 names and a dozen devices she destroyed. this an extraordinary moment in history, and this cannot stand, do you believe? >> there is a great video clip of the congressman doing a number on mr. comey, disaassembling the phoney arguments he used to rationalize or justify hillary clinton's conduct. she is a national security criminal. she sent 22 top secret emails across that just law server. any other 2k3w0e6789 ployee would be taken out of the room in chains. she laughs about it and is getting ready to go on a book tour to make more fun of it. anybody with a cleara

the fbi told him not to. he was following fbi advice. that the his excuse/alibi. that is checkable and today, the same artists who forced the administration to admit trump's wiretap allegation was false, today, they are at it again. today they failed a lawsuit demanding jeff sessions prove his alibi. prove his excuse for lying on his security clearance application. people for the american way and oversight people today filed a lawsuit to force the justice department and fbi to back up that assertion, if they can. to disclose the instructions that the fbi gave to attorney general jeff sessions when he was applying for that security clearance. according to the groups that filed the suit, quote, if jeff sessions wants us to believe his excuse, he should prove it. these documents should be easy to produce and we look forward to receiving them promptly from the fbi. you know, benefit of the doubt, maybe the fbi did tell jeff sessions he didn't have to disclose his meetings with russians when he was applying for a security clearance. maybe they gave him that explicit in

. >> do you think chuck grassley is wrong to bring this up and question the fbi? >> john: the point he's trying to make is there may be different treatment here. senator mccain is put into question given what he said about, and i don't know what the answer is. my protocol would be the fbi just doesn't tell people about this unless there is classified information. >> harris: james comey has so changed the game that we are in a sticky situation now because i think even the american people expect some information to come out of the fbi because he was giving information last summer in july when he was weighing in on whether he thought hillary clinton should be prosecuted. >> john: he never should've had that, not for the fbi director tell people what his investigation is pretty either prosecutor you close the file. >> harris: then the question becomes is a game change over just because he lost his job? that's complicated. >> jessica: now it seems like there's an expectation that the fbi should be involved in the investigation and he was wrong in july and he was certai

that is something the fbi thinks about. as you thk out itifouantoalabt constricing approach to information. how do you think about this insider threat problem? >> we take this very seriously. every agency has its issues. we have all learn from the experiences of each other. we try to talk about it very much in terms of, what is the culture of the organization, this shared culture of security which is a part of who we are? we the shared accountability have created as a reflection of how seriously we take it. we haven't insider threat center -- have an insider threat center. the focus is on trying to identify indicators, stressors, patterns, the haverhill science science that would historically indicate an insider threat. learn if there are things about the way we operate that create undue risk and stress. undue vulnerabilities. that is part of it. eject the idea that creativity and security is bin ary. you can have innovation and security at the same time, sometimes the distance between point a and b is able to more secured

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the fbi did send additional fbi personnel to cuba to investigate the sonic attacks but unclear if they are there now. cuban sources tell nbc news the cuban government allegedly sent a diplomat note they would help investigate the incident part of a by lateral investigation with the united states into this matter. cuban sources tell nbc news they sent this note to the u.s. state department, never got a response back. i understand they are having staffing issues at the state department. they didn't get a response. we first learned about these strange attacks, these strange symptoms emerging against u.s. diplomatic personnel in august. cbs radio first to report american diplomats were reporting incidents which caused a variety of physical symptoms. super vague in the initial reporting that was very unclear what types of incidents were happening here. the state department was totally baffling vague and confusing on the subject. we now thanks to good reporting on the subject, we now know it's a scary and weird as it seemed before we knew the details. we now know there are 21 medically confi

nbc news can confirm tonight that the fbi did send additional fbi personnel to cuba to investigate the sonic attacks. but it's unclear whether they're still there now. cuban sources tell nbc news the cuban government allegedly sent a diplomatic note that they would help investigate the incident, part of a bilateral investigation with the united states into this matter. cuban sources tell nbc news they sent this note to the u.s. state department, never got a response back. i understand they are having staffing issues at the state department. they didn't get a response. we first learned about these strange attacks, these strange symptoms with u.s. personnel in accounting. cbs radio first to report american diplomats were reporting incidents which caused a variety of physical symptoms. super vague in the initial reporting that was very unclear what types of incidents were happening here. the state department was totally bafflingly vague and confusing on the subject. we now thanks to good reporting on the subject, we now know it's as scary and weird as it seemed before we knew the details.

it shakes her faith in the bureau, everything the american people have to believe the fbi. when he came out with that finding against hillary, i didn't like it but i accepted it through the you have to accept what law enforcement tells you or our society breaks down. comey has a lot of explaining to do. the american people have a right to hear it and they need to be held to the fire. >> kimberly: you're absolutely right. they deserve justice in this case. i think you're right about that because we saw shades of this being highly problematic as you said, he'd stepped over the bounce in terms of his role. head of the fbi and became judge and jury. no reasonable prosecutor -- that is not your job. that undermines the credibility of the investigation right ther there. >> no reasonable fbi director whatever link the conversation he had with the president of the united states, no reasonable fbi director would do that too. >> kimberly: quick final comment, what should he do? >> he should demand to hear what happened. this is serious, it gets him under corporate we must trust the f

i've worked more hand in hand with the fbi. that's my sole purp stoost help them with state department cases or information they need from the state department. booth the historical subject matter expertise that we needed. >> on may 3rd, 2007, i was approached by the fbi liaison officer who explained to me that they had had an unsub espionage case and thought i would be able to help them resolve that question. >> so robert and i went over to fbi head quarters and they presented to us information from the intelligence community believing that the state department had been penetrate would a possible spy. >> and this information specifically was coded messages being sent by short wave frequencies from cuba to the united states. when i asked the fbi how long the transmissions had been going, they had hsaid at least years and in the state department you have to travel every couple of years. that means he is a civil service employee. do you know how many subjects we have just eliminated? and they all looked at me in amazement. now we

the fbi dedicated agents to it. i have confidence in them to be able to do their jobs efficiently. -- professionally. they have a cap intelligence committee geared toward prevention -- counter intelligence committee geared toward prevention and russian interference in a future election. there is an overlapping mission there and i am impressed with the strides that have been made on that front, as well. >> thank you for responding to that directly. let me turn to admiral rodgers. admiral, your area of cyber offense and defense is at the center of concern for everyone in this audience. tour atfinishing up a sa --s a -- at n [laughter] >> nearing the final lap of a tour. >> so they tell you. >> miscible question i want to put to you is -- the simple question i want to put to you is, tell us about your time running the nsa and how you think the agency is doing and what you think the audience needs to know about your requirements, the issues you are looking at in the private sector to help you solve. after three and a ha

then fbi contacted him. he spoke to them for two hours, handed over a thumb drive and he detailed how he got directions if the briefing room. his exchanges in the white house are under new scrutiny. at the time, the u.s. publicly criticized sputnik. the white house was still treating them and him in the briefing room like a legit news organization. most viewers would have no idea that entity was actually doing propaganda and that it now we can say is under fbi scrutiny. sputnik says it let him go because of performance. fineberg says he fasd tension on the job whenever he tried to be independent and he came to conclude sputnik was pure russian propaganda. will it was reported with the fbi's scrutiny and the firing of fine bheerg is here today for his first tv interview after speaking with the fbi. >> thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> what did the fbi want to know about you? >> they wanted to know about internal processes, who i reported to, who paid me, what my day was like. where i got inst

so i don't know who's running the fbi. i do. but it certainly not anyone with the interest of the american people in terms of getting some transparency about the misconduct of the fbi during the obama administration as they were working to really nail tromp through this really awkward and conspiratorial relationship with the authors of the trump dossier. >> tucker: if that is true. you hear the barking about fascism, fascism coming to america, it is armed organizations about the fbi, for which i have respect, but if it turns out they have -- they are this growth, this is something you should worry about. >> you have comey protecting hillary clinton while targeting trump at the same time. that is the intervention in the election we need to be investigating. if i were president trump, i would order the doj to do an audit of both the fbi and justice department were up to last year, including reviewing the handling of the clinton investigations and yes, the handling of his investigations, as well. he's a victim here about the americ