this is a typical north korean village. china is about five miles that way up over that hill, and this is a simple life out here. you don't see shiny buildings. you don't see a whole lot of new construction. you see people living a slow, simple life. down another windy road, another sight north koreans consider sacred -- a cabin near mt. paektu north korea claims is the birthplace of general kim jong-il. outside historians say he was actually born in russia, but here our guide tells the story of his supposedly mystical birth. >> translator: so it was really cold, and the weather was not normal, but somehow the day the general was born, the strong winds stopped all of a sudden. the sun began shining through. everything was bright, and a quiet calm took over. the flowers bloomed, and in the sky was a particularly bright star. >> is that a legend, or did that actually happen? >> translator: yes, it actually happened. it's not a legend. our general is really a person who heaven sent to us. so he changed the weather too. it's a

they just finished that statement about an hour after the north korean statement and the north korean claims of the success of the hydrogen bomb, the two-stage hydrogen bomb they say they were able to test, a miniaturized version that would be put on top of a delivery advice. again, the south koreans finishing their statement from the national security office not too far from where ron allen is standing in the streets. once we get that translation, we will share that with you. i want to bring in simon henderson. simon henderson is with the washington institute. what richard and ron allen were bringing up were missile defense systems that have also been part of the mix, part of the stew here. it was only wednesday of last week that it was released that a successful test of a missile defense system was conducted here and the timing given what the claims are that are coming from north korea are quite close here, simon. what do you make of the missile defense systems that have been tested by the u.s. military? >> well, i think this is absolutely essential because it was giving a signal to

north korean capabilities grow. will become more difficult so that's why we are trying to strengthen our defense capabilities so that we will be able to remain committed in the case of crisis contingencies and. always so we are trying to strengthen a trilateral u.s. south korea japan. nation and the security partnership in all of the prevent the kind of consequences from my knowledge and so japan and south korea are sticking to the idea that sanctions will force him to dialogue in an outlet for the new york times japan's prime minister shinzo has called on the international community to stay united and force the sanctions but meanwhile even the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley said that maybe sanctions aren't working so why insist on them. sanctions and no walking because because sanctions are not team place yet and already have already adopted the sanctions. it's the time for us to start implementing them and. you know attempts to implement them effective the chinese cooperation is the inevitable indispensab

in our cases, they go to north korean capabilities. in our case, the question is, or to north koreans want in return? we know some of that because they tell us. host: based on what we know of kim jong-un, the way he killed his uncle in that horrific way, his half-brother, is he capable of negotiations? is he stable? some have said he is nuts. guest: i am not capable of determining whether kim jong-un is nuts. what is important to us is if he is rational, is he possible achieving a plausible outcome. if the answer to those questions is no, then one has to think about the military assets we have to defend the security of our country and allies we have committed to defend, but these are difficult judgments to make. the only way i know of making them with confidence is to try and negotiate. if they fail, you know you must choose between deterrence and military force to deal with the threat. host: i realize this is a "what if" question, but based on what you know of china, if the u.s. did begin some military operation, china support that ef

down another windy road, north site north koreans consider sacred, a cabin near mount paektu north koreans claim is the birth place of kim jong-un. the guide tells of his supposedly mystical birth. >>>translator: the say was gold and the weather not normal, but the day it the general was born, the sun began shining through. everything was bright. and a quiet calm took over. the flowers bloomed and in the sky was a particularly bright star. >> is that a legend or did that actually happen? >>>translator: yes, it actually happened. it's not a legend. our general is really a person who heaven sent to us. so he changed the weather, too. it's a true story. >> people from the outside hear these stories and wonder ou any of this can possibly be true. >>>translator: it's hard to explain in one word, but our general is so great we can't say it's only a legend. nature transformed itself to announce the birth of our general to the whole world. blessing it. that's how it happened. >> i realize for north koreans, this is their faith, just like the bible, koran or torea. when they come to mount paektu th

you can under trade in north korean coal. that is a huge revenue left to this dictator given that we have relatively well shut off his arms trade. he's basically been reduced to high volume, low margin commodities, minerals, things like that. we have to choke that off. but secondly, because of lack of enforcement in the international system by countries we talked about china today, russia. he still has access to the international finance system because he has north korean brokers and agents operating with impunity, brazenly abroad in foreign jurisdictions. that has to stop. that is our next step. >> thank you, mr. chairman, for the extra time. >> mr. ted lue of california. >> thank you, mr. chair. and first of all, thank you to the witnesses for your public service. i served on active duty under u.s. pacific command in the 1990s at guam. we did a whole series of different exercises, most of them were directed at north korea. it was really good there were no good military options. the reason i bring that up is because diplomat

korean orchestra to a north korean audience. there was a moment where it looked like there might be a breakthrough, and, indeed, that visit and negotiations around it led to a very visible halt in their nuclear program. this, of course, was a plutonium nuclear program, it wasn't the uranium nuclear program. we went into the reactor. we saw them literally moth ball it. we saw them taking apart very, very important components, literally saran wrap them, put them away from any kind of ability to use them. we watched them from a certain distance actually blow up the identifying cooling tower of the nuclear reactor there at yongbyon, outside of pyongyang, the capital. for a moment it looked like there was a possibility there could be a halt or at least a stop to this program. and then it didn't work and kim jong-il died and kim -- the current leader, kim jong-un, succeeded him, and it has been confrontational ever since. what they want, we have been told now by the only diplomats, only officials from the united states that have actua

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report for the north koreans. i think it bank of china has been laundering money for north korea in other locations. we have them dead to right. if we were to designate bank of chain today a money laundering concern, that would be a death sentence for that bank. we could throw the chinese financial system into turmoil which could lead tote end of the communist party. robert: we would like for to you stay with us. we have to take a break. but stay with us through the break. just in case you are just joining us now. we want to recap that north korea appears to have conducted its 6th nuclear test since 2006. this would be the largest one now. we have gordon chang, an asia analyst with us. we'll be right back with more. stay with us on fox news. ♪ (male announcer) shop like a pro at bass pro shops for huge savings. like savings of 33% on redhead men's and ladies' everest hikers. save $50 on this lew's tournament baitcast reel. plus free kids activities this weekend, at bass pro shops. iso being cool comes naturally.

korean regime, such as, for example, the textile sector and north korean workers. i am referring also to the important restrictions placed on the exports of oil to north korea. and this resolution also strengthens the tools we have at our disposal in order to prevent the avoidance of sanctions, in particular in the maritime area. the last report of our exports confirmed this, the north korean regime is becoming increasingly creative when it comes to avoiding sanctions that have been placed on it. well, let's react to it by also being very creative. mr. president, this is not just simply being determined and resolute in words. the sanctions are not a leitmotif without a goal. they're not an end in themselves. area united reaction, a firm and unequivocal response today meets an objective. on the one hand we're reacting to the unjustifiable attitude by pyongyang and also avoiding sending any signal of impunity given violations of our own resolutions. but also, and as i said, it also maximizes the pressure on the north korean regime and does this in order to bring them

korean workers raising money for the north korean regime and also a total ban on oil and petroleum sales to north korea the original version also had the north korean leader designated for an asset freeze and a travel ban those will come out of the new draft the aim is to get the russians and chinese on board so it is a weaker resolution and i put to the british ambassador was arriving to the meeting matthew ryecroft the fact that you've added some new sanction areas here particularly on textiles but north korea hasn't taken any notice of sanctions in the past first of all these are significantly tougher sanctions secondly you're right that's actually take time to have an impact but it's only over the last year also that the security council has been sanctioning sectors of the economy and the textile sector is the final sector of the economy that is not until tonight subject to a battle on exports so this is a very significant tightening up still further of the constraints on the north korean regime. the big question is how russia and the chinese are going to vote they clearly didn't lik

i ask about a time most north koreans didn't have enough to eat, the north korean famine of the late 1990s, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of north koreans died of starvation. >> we ate tree bark after going up to the mountain for food and wondered just how long we'll have do this but it's not a problem now compared to that. this is all home grown. after farming for a year, we get rice and money to live off of, which is great. this house, i got it for free. >> he gives me a tour. like every north korean living room, there portraits of the late leaders. >> translator: this is a photo of our family and the general when he came to visit. >> you have a dvd player here. what kind of dvds do you like to watch? >> translator: cooking and lifestyle, new songs, movies. i watch a lot of them. >> you have ever seen any western movies? >> translator: no, we don't watch them. we wouldn't even if we could. >> he does watch state tv, and he listens to propaganda broadcasts on the radio. but his favorite ritual, like many of his generation, reading the newspaper. how important is the state

the prompt adoption of new sanctions against the north korean regime. the stringent and limitation of existing sanctions by all stakeholders, and lastly the adoption of additional measures by the european union. time is ticking. let us be aware of this. we know pyongyang has not hesitated, will not hesitate even at the cost of the lives of its people to breach the most basic rules we have set forth in terms of nonproliferation and beyond. this is a major and avowed undermining of all foundations of our systems of law and security. we cannot countenance this. we share ay, responsibility to uphold this and reinforce this. our credibility is at stake. to those who believe that the willingness of dialogue in the international community is lacking. the present conditions -- it is evident north korea has not given the slightest signal, not the slightest pledge of a possible willingness to negotiate on its nuclear ballistic missiles. given the contempt for international law, we must not compromise. decisionsn of our own cannot be subject to bargaining. we cann

korean government simply for being a member of the north korean government. so i think we can and should go after not only kim jong un, but the other senior leaders. >> okay. along those same questions, mr. klingner, is that right? okay, sorry, could you discuss the potential for north korea to assist countries such as iran in developing nuclear weapons and advance ballistic missiles? >> as mr. albright was saying before, i think there's clearly been a missile relationship between north korea and iran. i mean, the first missiles that iran paraded were actually 100% made in north korea. they were no-dongs and given a local paint job. the information on nuclear cooperation is much more difficult to get. we know north korea was engaged in, you know, nuclear cooperation with pakistan through the aq khan network in libya and others, but the information on cooperation with iran is much more difficult to get, particularly outside of government. i think there clearly is a relationship on the nuclear side between the two countries, but it's very hard to get particular

non-north korean bank for facilitating north korean financial activity. demonstrates our commitment to take action. we look forward to taking action with the chinese were possible and in the event that is not possible we will move forward to safeguard the international financial system. >> assistant secretary billingslea thank you very much. let me make a point. in terms of when we have seen sanctions that were effective, in 2005 we had sanctions on the bank. at that point in time and talking to a senior defector that works in their missile program he indicated death because we cut off the hard currency they had to shut down their icbm program. one of the things he indicated also or was indicated by the conversations we had with senior defectors was that during that period of time the ability of the regime or the dictators they called him, to get his hands on our currency was blocked and the inability of the dictator to be able to pay his generals and this was that quote, it's a bad position for a dictator to bn. in retrospect we therefore see two things

korean regime, such as, for example, the textile sector and north korean workers. i am referring also to the important restrictions placed on the exports of oil to north korea. and this resolution also strengthens the tools we have at our disposal in order to present the wardens of sanctions, in particular in the maritime area. the last report of our exports confirmed this, the north korean regime is becoming increasingly creative when it comes to avoiding sanctions that have been placed on it. well, let's react to it by also being very creative. mr. president, this is not just simply being determined and resolute in words. the sanctions are not a light motif without a goal. they're not an end in themselves. area united reaction, a firm and unequivocal response today meets an objective. on the one hand we're reacting to the unjustifiable attitude by pyongyang and also avoiding sending any signal of impunity given violations of our own resolutions. but also, and as i said, it also maximizes the pressure on the north korean regime and does this in order to bring them

the north korean famine of the late 1990s, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of north koreans died of starvation. >> translator: we ate tree bark after going up to the mountain for food and wandered just how long we'll have to do this, but it's not a problem now compared to that. this is all home grown. >> after farming for a year we get rice and money to live off of. which is great. this house, i got it for free. >>im gives me a tour. like every north koreaniving room, there are portraits of the late leaders. >> translator: this is a photo of our family and the general when he came to visit. >> off dvd player here, what kind of dvds do you like to watch? >> translator: cooking and lifestyle, new songs, movies, i watch a lot of them. >> have you ever seen any western movies? >> translator: we don't watch them. we wouldn't even if we could. >> he does watch state tv. and he listens to propaganda broadcasts on the radio. but his favorite ritual, like many of his generation, reading the newspaper. how important is the state media to getting information about what's happening? >>

words by president trump, words by the north korean leader, missiles launched by the north korean side over japan. more missiles set off by the north koreans. a huge show of force by the u.s. military. military exercises going on for the past couple weeks. exercises that happen twice a year in this part of the world. and the united states, south korea, and japan were in the process of winding down two weeks of exercises that always happen that infuriate north korea and that is the trigger that pushes north koreans now. they are always very, very agitated by these u.s. military exercises and they called for the u.s. and south koreans to back down a little bit on this. but the united states of course says they're not going to do this because they see these exercises which involve tens of thousands of south korean and japanese troops as well as essential to the defense posture in this part of the world. the exercises went on and concluded with a massive flyover by the b-1 b bombers that came up from guam which is the place that the north koreans have said they are targeting and they had s

for cyber capabilities for north korean cyber attacks? >> on the amendment in terms of anything that suggests that firms need to do better at identifying north korean companies. i think an amendment like that and the bill that's on the floor that is proposed by the committee, the main goal is diligence and making sure that the d.o.d. and others do not do transactions. i would point out there has been some focus and some reports recently i believe this week that north korea is looking at other cyber naval technologies i believe from south korea. that is certainly a different turn from their activities. >> do you think these fans are an effective deterrent? >> i think they would akuwaequam with a chinese bank. they actually agreed to that and it was because zte was caught doing the transactions. i would point out there are some north korean front companies that are caught up. >> do you think it would be a deterrent? >> i think for the chinese leadership. look, if you're a senior official. >> what other entities provide most material support

i think we are concerned about north korean rhetoric i mean we are the only country which. strengthens the united states and is a kind of violation of zocor. a sort of cold of a cunt dark among nuclear powers and this kind of behavior is very interesting. american policymakers as well as policymakers very much concerned that worried charles the what's the mood in china is people in the west getting really upset concerned hysterical is a real danger war and in that part of the world. i go back to your previous question. i think one has to think also about the fact that. a certain american president some years ago declared an axis of evil. whether or not that was the beginning of the bad red rhetoric when there's no but as far as china is concerned. there is the short term the medium term in the long term and the key to long term strategic peacefulness or stability and. security for north asia would depend on whether or not the u.s. and china are covering eighty percent and twenty percent russia come to some understanding of north asian or north east asian stability the funda

how has the north korean economy grown by 50%? >> the best answer is because they have been allowed to do that by a broad culture of noncompliance and nonenforcement with sanctions. >> even if there were no sanctions, 50% economic growth, i want to put this in context, their economy is only $15 billion today. they use as much oil in the whole country is 150 gas stations. i have a hundred 50 gas stations on ventura boulevard. we are dealing with relatively small moles. >> the german yields back. gentleman yields back. -- i think each of you today. as you may know, i offered an thatment that was adopted would prohibit the defense department from doing business with chinese entities that provide material support to north korea's cyber attacks. mr. ruggiero, in your opinion, is my amendment an appropriate response? >> on the amendment, in terms of that suggests that firms need to do better at identifying north korea transactions and companies, i think an amendment like that, and the bill that is on the floor, or proposed by the commit

korean capital seoul north korea's not officially on the agenda but the south is hoping to discuss how to calm regional tension the wife of pakistan's prime minister nawaz sharif has won his parliamentary seat in the byelection in the city of lahore hyder reports. right in the meantime human rights groups say thousands of women have been raped and sexually assaulted during the four year war in south sudan they blame the abuses on government troops of president salva kiir an opposition forces loyal to the former vice president riek machar a catholic priest who was rescued after being held for four months by eisel supporters in the philippines has made his first public appearance was rescued on saturday when the military overran the fighters control center inside a mosque in memoirs city he was taken hostage during the first day of fighting here there in may general motors has announced a recall of more than two and a half million vehicles in china over concerns about airbags made by the japanese giant. and those are the headlines news continues right here on al-jazeera after upfront you

koreans didn't reciprocate properly the north koreans like a lot of countries i would say maybe all countries are proud they don't want to be threatened and they shouldn't be threatened i mean the united states is a nuclear power has an affirmative obligation to get rid of its nuclear weapons but it's not in its nuclear weapons under obama and i mean it's the u.s. that's in violation of the n.p.t. and the other nuclear powers that are not doing what they must do to guarantee to small countries that don't have nuclear weapons that they don't need to get nuclear weapons so sort of if i go back to you and watch you not only that it's there let me make it or go back to our other guests in washington here i want to stick with this question i mean again if you read western media and you come out we know the state department you know north korea is much as he may like or dislike the regime i'm looking at the saw from t. of countries and i'm going to echo what brian said there i mean north korea has a right to protect itself all right and i think that that that simple message never gets fil

well, right now the north korean programme is very far advanced. and my concern, and a concern shared by other north korean watchers in the community here, is that i applying some of these measures we are actually going to see a situation where the north koreans continue to accelerate their development programme. the idea of a window of opportunity closing and racing for the bomb, if you will. so we are seeing a situation which is becoming increasingly destabilised. the most devastating floods to hit south asia in a decade have killed more than 1,400 people, and focused attention on the lack of preparedness for annual monsoon rains. in many areas, the authorities are struggling to get aid to millions of destitute people. justin rowlatt is in bihar, one of the poorest states in india, and the worst—affected by the floods. they're mixing up huge pots of vegetable curry and dhal. food for those left destitute by the floods. and there is no shortage of demand. i'm helpless, raju tells me. the floods took everything we own. it was terrifying, says kav

even to a north korean living in north korea. by the time they are of the military, the age of revolution has already passed. of course, i would be stating and restating the obvious if i said that north korea today is different from north korea 10 or 20 years ago as we all remember. in the mid-to-late 1990s, between its hundred thousand and 3 million north koreans starved to death or died of disease induced by malnutrition. this happened, the main reason behind this great tragedy that affected the people in north korea was that mild international aid was coming and, they came regime chose to focus its resources on its fundamentals strategical objectives that i know the ambassador will mention later which is of course, as you all know by now, survival. of course, this regime does not want its people to die by the millions. but, if that is what it takes, in order to stay in power than it will do it in the blink of an eye. this is what happened in the 1990s. ever since, if i may say so, there have been some positive side effects fir

the payment moves through a north korean bank. from there moving left to right from there the funds move to a chinese company and then a front company that accesses u.s. banks. the method relies on a system between north korea and china where the chinese firms and individuals hold these bank accounts. slide two, please. the second method was identified by the justice department based on information from an unnamed north korean defector. chinese entity one on the left side. chinese entity one owes money while north korean entities two owes a similar amount to chinese entities two. the entities pay each other given the difficulties of moving money over the border. the third method was used by a russian company to receive u.s. dollars for shipment of gas oil to north korea. this is very important given the new resolution that restricts energy sales. providing a key vulnerability that washington can exploit. this is why it's crucial for the trump administration to issue fines against chinese banks that are facility north korean sancti

then the north koreans say "game on." at that point, the american president has to decide the south koreans can probably handle this themselves, they probably don't need our help in terms of with standing on north korean invasion. north korea has one million people in its army, but the south korean army is extremely robust. maybe they don't need our help, maybe they can handle this. why would a u.s. president blink, why would a u.s. president hesitate? because to join in the fight against north korea is to create the possibility, certainly the northan zero, koreans would attack the u.s.. given pretty fanciful, the disparity and what we know to be the north korean capabilities, why would they ever attack north korea -- attack south korea? ,he north koreans also believe just ask one of them, that somehow south korea is a creature, and a creation of the united states. if you can just get the u.s. off of the peninsula, many south koreans would somehow welcome some kind of unification. when, pretty hard to take you look at the

then the north koreans say game on. at that point the american president has to decide, probably south koreans can handle this themselves, probably they don't need our help in terms of a standing a north korean invasion. it's true north korea has a million people in its army, but the south korean army is extremely robust. maybe they don't really need our help. maybe they can handle this. why would a u.s. president blank or why would a u.s. president hesitate? because to join in the fight against north koreans is to create the possibility am certainly greater than zero, the possibility, maybe probability north koreans would attack the u.s. again, pretty fanciful given the disparity and what we know to be the north korean capabilities and the rok capabilities. why would they ever attack north korea -- south korea. but the north koreans also believe, and if you don't, if you don't believe that just ask one of them. that's enough south korea is a creature and, frankly, a creation of the united states. if you can just get th

korean delegation coming to new york including the north korean foreign minister will be speaking to the general assembly next friday no i don't think he's likely to have meetings with the u.s. or any of its western partners or with japan or south korea but in the past the north korean foreign minister has met with the u.n. secretary general so it's possible there could be a very important meeting with the new secretary general antonio good terrorists all right let's talk to young ship barn he's a research fellow at the institute for north korean studies at university joins us live now from seoul and mr young i suppose we're all expecting this latest missile launch by north korea but what is the message here from pyongyang and what exactly is their end game do you think. the core message is twofold one is they. are protesting in defiance of the security council resolution two three seven five just passed in the aftermath of north korea's six nuclear past and the other message which is more important is that north korea will never relent it will continue to test and develop interconti

we know what the north koreans are claiming. they're claiming that it was a hydrogen bomb, not a nuclear weapon, stronger than a nuclear weapon, many times for powerful and they're claiming that it was a weapon that was small enough to be put inside and launched by a long range missile. if all that is true and again it hasn't been verified, that would be a major step forward, a major technological achievement and escalation of the tension here on the korean peninsula. south korea has responded quickly and condemning this ultimately. the south korean president called this outrageous and disgusting. he's said that they're going to bring to bear every diplomatic tool that they can, sanctions ons north korea. they're also openly talking about taking military measures, defensive measures calling in more u.s. military weaponry to help protect south korea which is significant because the south koreans are adamantly opposed to military force. they keep insisting that they want to solve this problem and stand off diplomatically. but this

exercises that always anger the north koreans. we know that they have fired off at least four missiles during this time frame during the past week or so. last tuesday launching an intermediate-range missile. long-range missile perhaps it was that flew from north korea over japan. some 7,800 miles. it was in the air some 15 minutes. air raid sirens went off in japan. there was a lot of the confusion, a lot of concern, a lot of worry about what was going to happen because that was an unprecedented move. the north koreans had fired missiles before that seemed to enter japanese air space. they claimed they were setting offal satellites. this was clearly a different sort of launch. this was a missile that flew in a trajectory that was flatter than others. it clearly flew over japan. and it set off alarms of all sorts. and we know in the weeks before that the north koreans have been threatening to fire missiles towards guam. the u.s. territory in the south pa spa sific. that is in range of that missile that flew over japan traversed. so

if the north koreans were to launch a missile and aim it towards guam, the u.s. territory of guam, 162,000 u.s. citizens live there, how should the u.s. respond to that? >> that would be obviously kim deciding that he was taking us on. at this point in time, as was suggested, he's thumbing his nose at the world. this is a whole another thing. if he's pointing a weapon that may or may not be able to hit guam. at that point in time, the only thing we can do right now is to try to shoot that down. as we discussed before, the military options are a whole other level. these are the discussions that the white house is having, that we're having and the white house and the senate and the efforts have to continue. >> do you believe there really is a military option, congressman? you know how many thousands of artillery pieces, conventional weapons, a million troops north of the demilitarized zone and only 25 miles from seoul where there are 25 million people and 28,000 u.s. troops along the dmz as well. you know what the north koreans would do if there was a pre-empted mi

the north korean regime. they know in the course of that conflict the united states toyed with the idea of taking over altogether and inflicted massive damage on all north korean cities. so, that wound and the paranoia which it has generated down the decades is very real. paul adams talking to me a little earlier. the president of the police superintendents‘ association says a policing model on fewer officers doing more is flawed. the home office says calls for extra funding are still under discussion. here is danny shaw. is the thin blue line becoming too thin? yes, says the police superintendents‘ association. it represents a thousand middle ranking officers — the men and women who make the key operational decisions. the superintendents are concerned there are fewer police officers doing more and working longer hours in a more challenging environment. the man who leads the organisation believes that‘s a model of policing which is fundamentally flawed. my members are saying they‘re doing their best

american south american side simply doesn't talk to the north koreans there are no talks you know so when they see him going wouldn't talk would negotiate then maybe you can see refused to have a negotiation. and i would say that you know very strangely maybe providence you know the board is create a new security system in the world but i. don't because basically if you have like the wild west you know there are two ways to have security you either have a good sheriff and then it makes sense to legalize weapons or if the sheriff is mad or an adequate then let everyone have to be buried so that's what i'm doing on this and let everyone have weapons and then the wars will stop in the same way shooting stopped in the american wild west when people had weapons so there are two points here coming on the back of what. tom just became president there were. members rumors in the state department indeed north korean delegation was about to get visas to come to the united states people from the north korean institute for american studies and their foreign ministry and have. normal serious nego

korean living in north korea. of thetime they are out military, the age of revolution has already passed. i would be sitting in resetting the obvious if i said north korea today is different from north korea 10 to 20 years ago. in the mid to late 1990's between 600,000 and 3 million north koreans starved to death or died from disease due to attrition. reasonppens -- the main that affect the people of north korea was the well international aid was coming in, the kim regime chose to focus its resources on its strategical course as which is of we know by now, survival. --s regime does not want does not want its people to die by the millions, but if that is what it takes to stay in power, it would do it in the blink of an eye and this is what happened in the 1990's. been some, there have positive side effects. first informers, many more north koreans have escaped the country. as of a couple of weeks ago, koreanere 30,800 north defectors living in south korea. there are 220 north korea defectors indiana state -- in the

north korean leader, kimjong—un, as described the north korean leader, kim jong—un, as begging for war. described the north korean leader, kimjong—un, as begging for war. she said the programme is more advanced and more dangerous than ever. war is never something the united states wa nts. never something the united states wants. we don't want it now, but our country's patience is not unlimited. the frustration echoed by the representatives from france, and indeed, from united kingdom. the representative said along with his french counterpart that sanctions should be implemented and in the strongest possible terms. come back to nicky hayley who was urging the security council to take the strongest possible measures. she said that means quickly enacting the strongest possible measures at the un security council and only the strongest sanctions will enable us to resolve this problem due. we have kicked the can down the road and there is no more road left. we will be talking to richard lister. talking about the options that donald trump has at his disposal and we will be talking to our c

we're waiting to hear from north koreans. also waiting to hear from the south koreans, the americans, the japanese about what their response is going to be to this. right now we know that they're analyzing the swiegs. they're trying to determine what took place. and then what their next step is going to be. but this is the second development today coming from north korea. earlier in the day, we were told -- we saw on north korean state media that the country has been able to miniaturize a nuclear weapon and put it on an intercontinental ballistic missile. that's a major development, too. so really two major documents coming from north korea today, isha. >> that has not been verified, just as is the case with this explosion, it hasn't been confirmed it's a nuclear test. how difficult will it be to confirm, to verify either of these two issues? -- well, to verify -- >> we still have you. go ahead, ian. >> to verify these issues is going to be a task. what we've seen in the past is you have american aircraft, japanese aircraft,

today is a milestone for the north koreans. you can be sure they will be celebrating this in the days ahead as well as the september 9 foundation day that is coming up on saturday. but there is a chance that kim jong-un said he needed to protect the country from the threat of the u.s. he may be ready to take a step back and talk to the u.s. i think it's very important for washington to make sure they get their messaging right and they coordinate with the allies in the region so they are all on the same page. >> that's an interesting idea. and potentially a silver lining if i follow your analysis, you're essentially telling us there might be a level of military readiness for north korea. when it attains that level, may be ready to talk to the u.s.? >> indeed. i cannot speak for the north koreans -- >> but you see a potential window of opportunity there? >> there have been windows of opportunity that the trump administration has missed from the start of this administration. so it's very important right now to make sure to read th

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