david: when you joined google, google was a very small company. did you, in your wildest dreams, ever imagine it would become the second most valuable company in the entire world? i don't think any of us did. i certainly did not. when i met larry and sergey, they just seemed incredibly intelligent. we had this huge argument over something technical, and i hadn't had that good of an argument in a long time, and i thought, "i've got to work with these people." i wanted to join a company that was gonna stay in one building. today, of course, we are many buildings. so you were the ceo of novell, at the time that you were getting ready to go to google. what propelled you to pick google as the company you wanted to go to? because you had many opportunities. well, i actually didn't interview anywhere else. i-- john doerr asked me to visit google. i said, "who cares about a search engine? it won't matter very much. who uses search engines?" but he said, "nevertheless, go visit with larry and sergey." and what they were doing was so interesting, and the qu

let me ask you about google. has google done everything you want them to do to provide information to your committee? representative quigley: i think this is just the first step, cory: i ask you on facebook. let me ask you about google. acknowledging that we have a problem, turning over the information they have. the next steps will be to have a public hearing with the house and the senate committee to talk about a discussion with the american public. how do we make it more transparent? how do we make sure that we know who is buying these ads? it can't be done anonymously anymore. cory: i will put the same question in a different way. you said it is just the first step. that makes it sound like you want google to take more steps and that they haven't provided everything that you want yet. am i paraphrasing you right? representative quigley: i think they have turned over what they have found. am i paraphrasing you right? i'm suggesting, as they find out information and find additional ads, they should turn those o

mark, who now is covers everything google. what do we know about what has been discovered so far and what action google has taken? reporter: we know very little about both of those things. google clearly has a lot more channels. youtube is a really big place for fake news and propaganda. it is not talked about as often as facebook. search, gmail hacking. at this point we don't know if google has found any evidence. after facebook disclosed 3000 election related ads, google said we probed our system and didn't find any similar ad buying during the election on our properties. emily: talk to us about the russia today situation. they have removed that from the premium youtube ad package. reporter: right. they didn't take down russia today's channels, which are the second-biggest on google preferred, their package of premium and high-end youtube videos where advertisers pay more to get their ads. this is a tough issue for google. it is a state-sponsored station, but so is al jazeera and bbc. people say that russia today actually pr

what about google and ibm? cory: they are killing it, and google and ibm are not in terms of market share. dell getting very little mention. but also showing great -- great strength. google's business is not really showing up in spite of a lot of announcements by google. amazon web services is still the top dog. we saw the amazon results big time today. amazon results, we saw the growth in the growth area for the second in the last three quarters. the thesis was, microsoft had been starting to eat away amazon's growth rate, but amazon's growth rate is picking up a little bit. it is notable that it is positive, not negative, in terms of sequential growth, again, two out of three quarters, and we had positive numbers out of microsoft. you wonder if what we are seeing is what we see in most of technology. which is because of network affect, the number and number one two are so much bigger, and number one is so much bigger that number two, that maybe amazon web services remain so much bigger than microsoft's web bu

they unveiled the google pixel 2 and the google pixel 2 xl. this is the competitor to the apple iphone x and the samsung 1 s8 plus. it has no head phone jack, but it did unveil wireless headphones which can translate on the fly they have the augmented reality capability, something apple talked up. and the artificial intelligence. it retails at about $849 if we move on to samsung's top end offering, the galaxy s8 plus, this has similar specs under the hood, the screen is larger than the pixel xl so close competition between those two. the final competitor is the iphone x, their high-end phone this has an oled screen. slightly smaller, 5.8 inches, but has some of its chips under the hood >> where do you want to start? lots of products from google >> we'll come to the ear buds in a second sticking with the smartphones, clearly the google pixel and the samsung phone rely on the same google powered operating system in android how does google differentiate hardware to suggest people should buy that, which has got less of a track record than the sams

other key things at the heart of google's pixel phones is the google smart assistant and now there's a quicker way to get to it, you can talk to it and tap on it and 110w you can talk to it and tap on it and now you can squeeze the phone and up it comes. what is so special about this, google? here are some results from a search. i don't think i've seen a new from a search. i don't think i've seen a new high—end smart phone launched in recent years where the makers haven't claimed its got the best camera ever and this is no exception, google said the pixel two ta kes exception, google said the pixel two takes amazing photos, especially in low light. 0ne takes amazing photos, especially in low light. one feature they are boasting about is the ability to ta ke boasting about is the ability to take a portrait with the background blurred, out of focus. beautiful portraits. the key thing here, because you can get that feature on a lot of phones these days, is that they are doing it with one lens, they are doing it with one lens, they say they are using clever softwa re they say they are

coming up, russia's google connection and google's russia connection. the big tech company saying they took money from the kremlin's sponsored hackers during last year's presidential election. we'll discuss google's role in fake news. plus, tech and taxes. apple ceo tim cook meets with macron in. emmanuel paris as they waive sweeping overhauls of digital platforms across europe. and a wide ranging interview with the former microsoft ceo and clippers owner steve ballmer. his thoughts on twitter, trump, immigration and his enduring legacy. but first, to our lead. russia linked accounts used google to influence the 2016 u.s. presidential election. google investigators found that nearly $5,000 from the kremlin. they're also investigating another $53,000 in ads spending coming from russia at large. first reported in "the washington post" and "the new york times." the admission is new. google previously said it couldn't find any evidence of russian interference. but data from twitter proved the earlier contention was wrong. mark bergen, who covers google for

take google, for example. ceo sundar pichai has had to deal with staff protests over the president's immigration policy, a standoff with advertisers, a record regulatory fine from the eu, and debates about gender equality, just to name a few. pichai sat down with us for an exclusive interview with "bloomberg businessweek." he spoke to mark bergen, who joins us now. and still with us, bob o'donnell, technalysis research president and our guest for the hour. it is two years into the job. the headline was something along the lines of "everyone is mad at google and sundar pichai has to fix it." how is he handling all of these issues? mark: he still considers and saw products-first person and that is the big push at google. i think he didn't expect trump, necessarily, a lot of the immigration issues. he is having a combination -- he having a combination of delegation. befound out today he will the one testifying before congress. his tactic has been deliberate. he likes to build consensus and get people in the room.

what about google? >> i think you want to balance of the -- balance the ability to have search where someone can do a search and it is neutral. you also have to stop people who newsfeedsg up in the you know that are incorrect in done intentionally incorrectly. i think you have to make that distinction here. you have to say all right, this thing about the las vegas shooter, was just put up at your fakery. if indeed facebook, twitter, or will play the -- what are the consequences? environment, we are we. we are in a better world now. i can go wherever what, including russian sources. platform toe our intentionally mislead people in as mark zuckerberg has said, we get it now. i suspect people at google also have good values and apartment to figure out going forward we have to do it better. >> i'm not someone who is deeply in favor of on the spot regulations. i think that is a really bad idea. so self policing you think? >> i think we have government , -- you have to have certain values so we don't have peo

facebook and google do this all the time for major advertisers. if you are procter & gamble, you will spend tens of billions on ads, they will help you. they were doing the same thing here with these political groups. emily: so what are facebook and google saying? benjamin: they are not talking to us on the record. they do not -- they did not want to engage with us. a google spokesperson told me they eventually blocked some of these and they were running. but that is sort of the extent of it. if ads run against our policy, we will cut them off, but it is not clear how long these ads ran on google before they were discontinued. emily: how is this different from the russian interference legally speaking? benjamin: this is perfectly legal, and a surprise people have had with this is these companies would actively engage with the groups on the fringes of the clinical spectrum. but it raised -- political spectrum. it raises questions on how the russian meddling potentially impacted the election in social media. here is one other area where this occurs,

-mail i can on a you tube account and throw away your google glass throw it into the wind no i realize we have to do some things in in manageable steps otherwise people just give up so i think let's start with boycott google search and then hopefully if we can impact them even slightly maybe they'll stop crushing independent media maybe they'll realize it's beneficial to let independent media thrive so now if i'm asking you to do to get off google search i have to give you some alternatives right one is duck duck go which says it does not actually track your data keep track of any of your data another is he cozying up dot org in which every search you do helps plant trees i'm not get it so i figured let's talk to someone at eco zia and see how this all works here now is my interview with the chief communications officer at eco zero five thanks for joining me hi thank you for having me so the reason i thought it was important to have have you on is because search engines are incredibly powerful nowadays with google being the monster that's taking over the world but it causes seems to be

google, what is it so and it comes up. google, what is it so special about this? here are results from a search. google is no exception to claiming it has the best camera ever. it says it takes amazing pictures. 0ne best camera ever. it says it takes amazing pictures. one feature they are boasting about is the ability to ta ke are boasting about is the ability to take a portrait with the background blurred, out of focus. the key thing here. because you can get this feature in a lot of phones these days, they are doing it with just one lens. they are using a lot of softwa re one lens. they are using a lot of software and machine learning to be able to do it with just one camera. let‘s give it ago. nice. that‘s better. what‘s the reason for not having to cameras on the back many phones? google says it gets more battery life and pack more in. but, one thing missing. you have to plug your headphones in here where you charge it. so, why does this matter? it is google saying it is determined finally to master hardware and combine it with software in the way that a

this is really youtube, the only social property that google has. they have seven properties that have a billion active users. they need twitter. when you think about this company, google's up in market cap terms more than twitter's enterprise value how do you move video around the web? how do you do it in a mobile platform with something like twitter. >> talk to the camera. >> i thought you told him to -- >> i've been saying it >> pete will talk to guy >> what are the implications on traditional media? we talk about disney all the time and the impact of cord cutters, comcast, the parent had earnings out this morning. >> at&t got torched. youtube is overwhelming with these ads for how you can basically for 35 bucks get everything you want including live sports. it puts it in perspective for people who just want to make it very simple. i do think they're a major rep >> check out amazon and microsoft, both soaring after hours. 'lbre conference calls are under wawel ing you the very latest when "fast money" returns. stay with me, mr. parker. when a cri

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google, amazon, they all have one. do you see the maintaining a foothold in this area, or do you see one or two dominating the market? michael: we believe the smart speaker market will peak within two years. part of the reason for that is those digital assistants will be built into every other device, whether it is your car or toaster or espresso machine. there are a lot of devices that can use more than one. there is a speaker that uses alexa, but in the future could and googlertana assist. emily: when it comes to the assistants themselves, is one the coming dominant, tied to the operating system or smartphone you're using, or that multiple assistants can survive? michael: i think multiple can survive. each one of these companies. we have two standards today in mobile operating systems. there is nothing that will stop them from being four standards in digital assistants. especially if people are going to be able to cross platform affordability. emily: there is huge discussion about the power and responsibility of thes

>> guest: life after google. >> host: what does that mean? >> guest: well, google, the internet was started as as a distributed system. anybody could play, but it has since developed into a set of empires of giant information companies like google, ace book, amazon, all these giant leviathan companies are fragmenting the internet into silos, and the problem with this is, if the internet isn't a global network anymore, it's run by google, apple, amazon, facebook, whatever, why not the chinese communists? if google can have an internet, a couple nerds from michigan can start an internet, why not the chinese? why not the iranian mullahs? why not the europeans? and so what's happening is a result of this new top-down cloud computing base internet that google and all are creating is the breakdown of the business models of all these companies. europeans are cracking down. the chinese are cracking down, and so these companies no longer have an open future. so the internet has to change and get a new model of security that actually can protect your d

less about google, but what about google? >> i think that one of the that young things is want to balance the ability to can --rge where you somebody can do a search, and it's neutral, it doesn't say we're going to bias this, that the other. but you also have to stop people up in thetting newsfeeds that will be searched things that you know are incorrect and done incorrect.ly certainly as a journalist, i publish things that were incorrect in the past, sometimes things that were fored, but it wasn't done some ulterior, secret motive and that's what's happening with news today, and i think you have to make that distinction if you're a google, you have to say right, this thing about justas vegas shooter was put up as pure fakery and we have to find ways to get rid of that. >> if indeed, facebook, twitter, google swayed the election in one direction or another, i mean the recourse for that? what are the consequences? >> well, i think you have to forward, which is you have to say in this new environment, we used to have gatekeeper

i want to start with google's direct competitor to the iphone 10 this is the google pixel 2xl this is a top of the line phone from google. a top of the line processor made by qualcomm, and an oled display. it's all about sharper colors, brighter screen contrasts for doing more things like watching videos there's no head phone jack which was controversial when apple made the move. it's something google has done to support its wireless headphones, the google pixel buds he has augmented reality capabilities google showed off a lot of their augmented reality capabilities of the phone, a direct challenge to apple it has the ai assistant, the google assistant built in it retails at $49. moving on to the samsung galaxy s8 plus this is the flagship mart pho mart smartphone. it has a large display and then the iphone x, it runs android like google. and the camera is extremely similar. it retails at the exact same price of $850 as the google 2 xl as well. now, the final phone in the comparison is the iphone x this is apple's highest offering, the $999 phone, it makes the most expensive out of t

david: by two stocks, alphabet, google, amazon, you're all set. i'm sorry to do this guys, i want to go to adam first because he covers it from silicon valley. adam, i'm looking for any dark cloud, that is hard to find for google and amazon. track fees are traffic acquisition costs, money that google pays to cell phone companies, that their name, google appears for anything else that is going way up, increasing by 25%. is that a problem? >> sure. any costs that goes up is a problem, but david, i would say the biggest problem for these companies a larger, existential one, fed by outstanding performance, they're getting so big, so powerful, all sorts of people are coming after them including government regulators. melissa: too much money can be a terrible thing. i hate to have these kind of earnings to see my stock go through the roof. david: don't worry. you can handle the money. but, scott, there are political problems, all these stories about false stories on internet and whether google has to play more active role preventing that pro happening o

money google paid for apps like youtube, front and center. on the phone, when i asked ruth porat about acquisition costs, she said the business is growing substantially. they partner in the ongoing shift to mobile, which he or he's higher acquisition costs in a glowing -- which carries higher acquisition costs in a growing area. how much of a concern is this? the reality is, a lot of mobile companies are increasingly monetized, and they are looking for -- what is the maximum they can squeeze out of the revenue shares from google? i think it will go up. there are other areas of acquisition, too, where there is a lot of upward pressure for google in areas like display revenue shares as well. i think it is something that to a larger sense we have to get used to. there will be a trend upward. google definitely can slow that growth. i do not think it will reverse anytime soon. emily: when you look at the numbers, it seems like most

serve up conspiracy theories but it hasn't said how it deems an account credible and yet you observe google has started to identify and label fact checked articles in the u.s. and some european countries it's also allowed people to report misleading content that shows up at its auto complete search function or in the featured snippet pops up above all of the other search results and twitter has also been criticized for allowing the spread of misinformation but it's taken a very different approach to the issue to us as twitter's vice president of public policy wrote in a blog post in june that we cannot distinguish whether every single tweet from every person is truthful or not we as a company should not be the arbiter of truth so let's bring in our guests for today they're all in london alice to read is a social media journalist of the press association who specializes in the spread of misinformation online sebastian moss is technology reporter for data center dynamics and tom law is the director of campaigns and communications at the ethical journalism network gentlemen welcome to you all

we get a selloff in google or i'm sorry, alphabet nowadays, if -- it will always be google to me. i probably want to be a buyer on that, assuming there's not some kind of weird thing in the earnings if it's a selloff on a minor hit or miss there, i want to be a buyer tomorrow >>> coming up, check out shares of amgen, sinking following earnings a top technician says something in the chart suggests now might be the time to buy >>> plus general electric shares continue to get pummeled for any of the top executives buying the stock, we've got a special report >>> it's a bitcoin battle royale tom lee is telling investors to pile in. the face-off happens right here, twitter is going nuts about it muchor me "fast money" after this ah, dinner. throughout history, the one meal when we come together, break bread, share our day and connect as a family. [ bloop, clicking ] and connect, as a family. just, uh one second voice guy. [ bloop ] huh? hey? i paused it. bam, family time. so how is everyone? find your awesome with xfinity xfi and change the way you wifi. >>> welcome back to "fast money

what about google? walter: one of the interesting things is you want to balance the ability to search, and you also have to stop people, who are putting up in the newsfeeds that will be searched by google, things that you know are incorrect and done intentionally incorrect. certainly, as a journalist, i know that we publish incorrect things in the past, or bias but , it was not done for some old -- ulterior secret motive. however, that is what is happening right now. these companies have to look at the stories and recognize them as fake news. you have to look forward. facebook or twitter or google's way to the election in one way or another, what are the consequences? walter: you have to look forward. in this new environment -- we are lucky. we used to have gatekeepers like walter cronkite. we are in a world now where i can go wherever i want, including russian sources, palestinian sources to get the news, but we have to say that you cannot use our platform to intentionally mislead people. as mark zucke

emily: what are the interesting differentiations googling today is that google is different from facebook and twitter in that they made the claim that the protections they already have in place event at some of the stuff from spreading. they said it spread on social media. mark: i think they google claim has been they identified a much smaller pool of ads than facebook and twitter. you ditzy targeted questions around youtube, including russia today with congress and senators have been adamant that this is a propaganda tool for the russian government. a very popular youtube channel. the google lawyers evaded questions about that and about how much money google shares with their ad revenue. emily: on top of that, they did not just talk about russia but the threat from foreign actors in general, china, iran and north korea. there was a particularly heated exchange between senator kennedy and one of the lawyers. take a listen to that. >> how about north korea? aware of other foreign actors running the same sort of campaign. >> can you be aware? advertisers,llion and you are going to tell me t

the i, gps blocking patients who check dr google. don't bea patients who check dr google. don't be a cyber hypochondriac? this feels pretty strange. from a senior gp, saying so many patients are coming in having already used google to find out what the cost means and deciding they have cancer and coming in and the doctors having to calm them down, i have no idea how the gps enforcers. how do they know? you would say, i have looked it up? do you? occasionally and i have convinced myself i have every element under the sun! you look very well to me! that is what the doctor inevitably always says! one of the things about being hypochondriac is it is the nhs website which tells you you have a really bad disease, if you google persistent cough, the first result is the nhs website saying here are the possible awful things you might have.|j saying here are the possible awful things you might have. i am pretty sure this is a boy thing. are you allowed to say that? maybe it is just me, i may be the only person in the country who does not constantly google health complaints but most

we also have google earnings coming up. do you expect to see any impact on the actual business when we look at the numbers for this quarter? david: i don't expect to see any impact on the numbers for this quarter to speak of. as i said before, i think we will see economic impact on these companies, particularly facebook, long-term. i think it is a mistake for zuckerberg not to be appearing before the senate intelligence committee. i think to send the lawyers is diminishing the significance of the investigation. i would almost take a bet that within six months, zuckerberg will be testifying in front of congress in some fashion. probably larry page as well. that is the way things are headed. emily: next week, what are you looking for when it comes to the stocks? >> when i look at the cap tech, far and away the leader of the stock market this year, the s&p technology index is up 37%. facebook is up 32%. there are some jitters around the stocks. we have seen big pullbacks in tech stocks this year only to see them recover quickl

introduce the google pixel 2. brian: a new focus on the physical world as google unveils a new line of smartphones and hopes it will jump start attempts to compete in the hardware market. google's android operating system dominates smartphone markete, with 2/3 global share. as rivals like apple, amazon, and samson adadd to their hardwe ranges, google risks being left behind. samsung. does not have samsung is trying to build their own ecosystem. they have their own assistant. google does not own that and has no way of controlling that. they need to have their own hardware so they can control the ultimate experience for consumers. the pixel launched last year at the center of a hardware division, but parts shortages hindered production, leaving the search giant with just 1% of the u.s. smartphone market, compared with 32% each for apple and samsung. google bought a part of taiwanese phone maker htc, counting on expertise in artificial intelligence to stand out, with earbuds that translate foreign linkages in real, a

writing who google's emoji is putting the cheese at the bottom of the burger, while apple puts theirs on top. >> there's only one way, the cheese must melt on the patty. mark writes, they're both wrong. the cheese is wrong, but he doesn't like where apple put the lettu lettuce. many shared a diagram. it made its way to google's ceo. sundarpichai, and said, i will drop everything we're doing. we need to get your help. should the cheese go above or below the patty. overwhelming, 95% saying above. >> absolutely. >> google, the only one in the emoji library that is gold enough to put the cheese on the bottom. many looking to see if they're

google has been working on this for a long time, headgear, similar to global -- google glass. something that they thought was a privacy focused, discrete object, everybody knows that is a camera. you have criticism from somebody like elon, who is saying that google is one of the largest ai companies and they are not aware of the dangerous potential. carol: creating the cover model was the job of the creative director. this is the cover story. >> the story checks in with him two years after he took this enormous position. looks at what history with his role at how the company is doing under his leadership. julia: a very strange life. you used a picture of yourself? [laughter] >> we have the same tasting glasses and -- taste and glasses and facial hair. facial hair. carol: tell me what was different this time around and what you went with coming up with the idea. >> it was coming up with an introduction. it was the first time the world was hearing about him. now we are at this point where they're hugely successful but facing a lot of criticism. there are political ramifications.

google has just recently pulled russia today from their premium packages. what about google? walter: one of the interesting things is you want to balance the ability to have search, where somebody can do a search and the ad is neutral. you also have to stop people who are putting up in the news feeds that will be searched by google, things that you know are incorrect and done intentionally incorrect. certainly, as a journalist, i know that we published things that were incorrect in the past. sometimes they were done for bias but it was not done for , some ulterior secret motive. that is what is happening with fake news today and i think you have to make that distinction at google. all right, this thing about the las vegas shooter was put up as pure fakery and we have to get rid of that. emily: if facebook or twitter or swayed thee -- election in any way, what are the consequences of that? walter: you have to look forward. in this new environment -- we are lucky. we used to have gatekeepers. walter concha right would say, that is the way it is and the rest of the world would s

same thing with google. more of those ads are public in the sense that if you go on youtube and watch the ads that are playing before each video, you can get a better sense of our facebook page. if all you ever see is on your own feed, that's why it's probably under the most scrutiny. >> another recent report you participated in is about hate groups. this is becoming such a hot topic. i never thought, as the tech reporter, i would be dealing with this but basically hate groups have found internet to be a great place. we did a survey of all the different payment systems that were enabling these, palpating the leading one. one of them launch the hate report against one of my reporter and the least our e-mail with spam to take our computer system down. >> what's it like reporting on these issues for pro- public are opposed to the wall street journal where you spent 13 years. >> what's great is the ability to do collaborations and do a little more open-ended stuff, so for instance the facebook tool that we built

google you saw what you thought was a crazy idea on a whiteboardlj google you saw what you thought was a crazy idea on a whiteboard. i saw google's balloon internet project. i thought it was a joke because they had moon bases and things on a whiteboard, but now it's delivering the internet to puerto rico. it's incredible. thank you for telling us about pointy. all the best ideas appear on whiteboards. about pointy. all the best ideas appear on whiteboardslj about pointy. all the best ideas appear on whiteboards. i couldn't agree more. here's how to get in touch... stay ahead on the business live page with all the breaking business news. we will have insight and analysis from the bbc‘s team of editors around the world. and we want to hear from you as well. get involved on the web page. we are on twitter and facebook as well. on tv and online, whatever you need to know. we have already stipulated it's an important moment for spain and the spanish economy and the region of catalonia. the latest on that is that the catalan leader puigdemont has not clarified whether he has made a declara

google, twitter set to testify next month roger, in this new op-ed you're asking them to go further. mark zuckerberg, if he wants to earn our trust an forgiveness must personally earn it what do you mean by that >> i think the big issue we're dealing with, carl, is that the people who are on facebook are on facebook because they love to have their views reinforced. it's for the just about family photographs, it's not just about vacation photographs a lot is about being around the same people who believe the things we do. one of the challenges for facebook in the aftermath of the u.s. election is that the people believe that everyone else was misled by the russians and others. they don't believe they were i believe it's really, really important for facebook to contact every single person who was touched by russian propaganda, whether they got a message, saw an ad or were in a group and explain that they -- which is to say both facebook and the user -- were misled by the russians and to do this in a way that's extremely person, individual level. it's the only way that people are going

to introduce some access via google. the reaction from news corp, the chief executive robert thompson has been one of the biggest critics of google and he welcomed it. he said it was a welcomed it. he said it was a welcome step from google. so if robert thompson is saying it is a good thing, you can bet other newspaper publishers think the same. is this a shift in the attitudes from sn we have got google saying, "we are making things difficult for newspaper publications. " "we are making things difficult for newspaper publications." more able to relate to other commercial partners ina to relate to other commercial partners in a particular space and not wanting to take everything and drive people out of business. this is an interesting moment for silicon valley. dominic, nice to see you. that's it from business live. there will be more business news route the day on the bbc live page and on world business report. see you soon. bye— bye. good morning. well, it is not as windy as yesterday morning. we have still got windy

barry, last week former head of google ventures, bill mamari said he wouldn't be surprised if google broke up these entities because google and facebook are more powerful than at&t ever was. is that wrong? >> no, that's absolutely right they are far more powerful than at&t ever was. they are far more powerful than the western union telegraph system ever was. they are far more powerful than any company we have ever dealt with in this country before. so, this is a pressing problem we haven't turned the corner to a point where it's too late, but it is vital that people on capitol hill and, you know, across the society, you know, the american society, sort of understand just how much power these companies have, the ways in which they wielded that can harm us, and also sort of come to terms with the fact that we have a lot of tools we can use to make these companies safe >> right barry -- that's where we have to get to i don't have a problem with big, powerful companies with companies succeeding getting rich the question is, what is it as americans that we're trying to protect, that we're

tech giants under scrutiny representatives of facebook google and twitter are facing questions of u.s. lawmakers over fake news fake events propaganda other misinformation during the twenty sixteen presidential election also more turbulence there bus first corruption charges in europe now the plane maker admits to in accuracies in the united states and bogus bulliet skin avian authorities are investigating how a fake gold bar could be sold at a branch of the country's biggest bank. this is the business i'm first of coburg welcome major tech companies have begun two days of hearings before u.s. lawmakers on how russia and legibly use their services to sway voters and last year's presidential election the world's largest social network facebook testified that one hundred twenty six million americans may have seen politically divisive posts that originated in russia under fake names. the white house caught in a web of black spiders for halloween the president and first lady confront the monsters in the garden. but trump may have even bigger fears especially since a former foreign policy

same thing with google. more of the ads are public in the sense that if you go on youtube and watch the ad that are playing before each video, you can get a better sense of it. still targeted but there is a little bit more transparency. facebook is such a closed system, all you ever see it what you have on your own feed. that is the least transparent of them. that's why it's probably under the most scrutiny. >> host: another recent report you participated in is about hate groups and how they're being monetized by the tech companies. >> guest: yaw. this is backing -- yeah, this is becoming a hot topic, never thought as a tech reporter i would be dealing with nazis. just never thought about that. but basically hate, hate groups fond the internet to be a great place to promote and recruit new people to their causes. so we did a survey of all the different payment systems and -- that were enabling these groups to receive donations. pay pal was the leading one. and after our report paypal shut down a bunch of the

this is the google pixel 2. this is the xl version, which is six inches in size, the regular pixel‘s five inches. this moves the speakers so when you're watching a movie in landscape mode you're not muffling any of the audio. it also has a nifty feature called live edge which when you squeeze the phone it brings up google assistant which can then help you on your way. what's the best phone? hmmm... its camera has had a reboot as well. it comes with a clever portrait mode which creates depth of field found in professional photos with only a single lens, using machine learning to do so. verifications and reminders, all without pushing a button.. with the new always—on display, the phone also shows you what song is playing in the background wherever you are. it's always listening. the pixel 2, particularly the xl version, is really good. high—end. meets the specifications of the other competitors too. but it only has a tiny percentage of the market, 0.5% compared to iphone and samsung. it has a tremendous amo