the president has been a exhibit of the nra and the nra his in a big supporter of the president. >> we welcome that any conversation on that. that has not changed. we want to be part of the conversation on that forward. host: the editorial boards of the washington post in the new york times take up this issue. patient, it iske the bare minimum. the refusal to take any type of and control, any step in the right direction is a good thing. to the editorial pages of the new york times, they are calling the move when it comes to bump stocks, progress on guns. that is the headline they use on their lead editorial. we are interested in your dots this morning. -- thought this morning. good morning. caller: good morning. i think it doesn't know are enough. these bump stocks should be outlawed to even be in your one, youn, if you have should be prosecuted for the same law that would be tied to an automatic machine done. that's my opinion on that. be taken back to the store they got it and get their money back. is there anything you would do beyond that? caller: i don't have a problem , any type

you go after gun owners in the nra, when this guy wasn't even a member of the nra. then you go after the opposing party. >> because i can't believe that one whole political party in the greatest country on earth is totally sold to the gun lobby. judge jeanine: but she is not done blaming everyone but the shooter. >> do you feel they are complicit. the gop and the nra and the begun lobby? >> of course they are. judge jeanine: the nra and the gop? how dare you connect law abiding citizens to a mass murderer of innocent civilians. how dare you call us complicit with a whack job police fi misfs the epitome of evil. just as we can't blame all muslims for the actions of a few, how about you not blame all gun owners for the actions of paddock. hillary, you have to stop trying to be joan of arc. your word ring hollow. tell me the last time you were in chicago where children on playgrounds don't even run at the sound of gunfire. where is your dignity and compassion for african-american victims of gun violence every weekend. don't black lives matter? you and your friends are

so its a not -- there is a lot written about nra donations, the nra does give money but the nra's power is that they can raise awareness on an issue and they reach out to their nip and they can mobilize their members. s that where their power comes from, their influence comes from. they have at least 5 million members the nra and other gun rights groups. they have motivated members, they feel passionately about the second amendment and the right to bear arm. there is debate about what exactly the second amendment means but right now the nra and its supporters are very active not only on the local level but on the state and federal level. they are knowledgeable about their issues. on the other side the gun control movement is trying to step up its game. it is not as well organized but it's trying. >> you talked about gaby giffords being up on capitol hill. let's show you a little bit of that event now taking place. >> fight, fight, fight! [ applause ] >> be bold. be courageous. the nation's counting on you. thank you very much. thank you. [ applause ] >> so we saw that short speech. we s

of that tragedy, we had nra families, we had families wounded out there. it just has been horrible. but the people that are trying to politicize this tragedy i would say this. to there are monsters like this monster out there every day. there are menaces out there every day. people want to be able to protect themselves. that's why they support this freedom. all of the elites that have been speaking out this past week, they all want to protect themselves. if they all protect themselves with armed security. i mean, they criticize the nra, i i don't you want to talk about irresponsible use of firearms? the number one person teaching irresponsible use of firearms is all of these elites employer, the hollywood, television gaming industry, we spend millions teaching responsible use of firearms, they make billions every single day, john, teaching irresponsible use of firearms. they are so hypocritical it is unbelievable. >> dickerson: but is it really an elite position for a person to think if there is evil in the world, perhaps there should be something that is

money is one piece of the nra power. the other power is to motivate base republican voters who do not support any kind of gun control. it's a messaging power, a vote scorecard power and then the money piece of it, too. but i would say the money is not the number one piece of their power. >> really. i want to play part of what the president had to say to the nra back in april. >> the eight-year assault on your second amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end. [ cheers and applause ] >> you have a true friend and champion in the white house. >> okay, so he says you have a true friend and champion, but trump has said he's a true friend to almost everybody, but he's turned his back on everyone, except by my account, ivanka. >> true. you never leave family. and he's been a supporter of gun control, he's played the mantel of the nra. >> to me it's just ivanka he stands by. he doesn't always stand by the boys. >> yeah, don jr., that might be true. but in trump's case, it's a perfect example of him gravitating to an issue in

you go after gun owners in the nra, when this guy wasn't even a member of the nra. then you go after the opposing party. >> because i can't believe that one whole political party in the greatest country on earth is totally sold to the gun lobby. judge jeanine: but she is not done blaming everyone but the shooter. >> do you feel they are complicit. the gop and the nra and the begun lobby? >> of course they are. judge jeanine: the nra and the gop? how dare you connect law abiding citizens to a mass murderer of innocent civilians. how dare you call us complicit with a whack job police fi misfs the epitome of evil. just as we can't blame all muslims for the actions of a few, how about you not blame all gun owners for the actions of paddock. hillary, you have to stop trying to be joan of arc. your word ring hollow. tell me the last time you were in chicago where children on playgrounds don't even run at the sound of gunfire. where is your dignity and compassion for african-american victims of gun violence every weekend. don't black lives matter? you and your friends are

this is not about the nra. nra doesn't make legislation, congress does. in order for something to practically to be done as opposed to us arguing over pl platitudes this is what needs to happen. it's members of congress who pass legislation and make darchs he -- a difference here. they can demonize the nra but we should be applauding the fact there's a bipartisan effect in congress. >> david, last word to you. >> i just would ask my republican friend do you think that legislation can get through a republican controlled congress if the nra opposes it? >> in this specific instance specific to bump stocks, yes, i do. it doesn't look to me like the nra is going to completely do that. assault weapon dance is already in place. a lot of things you're calling are in place. they are not the primary source of gun violence. mainly hand guns and suicides and street violence. it's not mass public shootings. as long as we stay lasered focused on what will make a difference in situations like this you'll see legislation passed. >> i hope we do see legislation pass. i ho

there were nra members that were shot at that concert and nra members that were murdered at that concert. so what we're getting from nra members is grief and fear, the same way americans are grieving and scared that something like this meeting happen again. so will are there be disagreements over policy discussions? of course. there's an ongoing discussion about gun control in this country. we had it during the debates last year. we had it throughout the campaign when the most pro-gun control candidate was defeated. these conversations happen. what we're concerned about is that we're having a conversation when people are grieving. there used to be a common decency in this country where people paused from talking about policy. unfortunately, with diane fine stein and michael bloomberg, they want to exploit the tragedy from day one. it's shameful, but apparently that's the new normal -- chris: i want to pick up on that because while the nra is talking about bump stocks, there are a number of gun control advocates, in our this them democrats, who are calling for more sweeping measures. here

so, allison, why is the nra so powerful? it certainly gives a lot of money to politicians -- lois, rather. but what sets them apart because a lot of special interest groups give money to politicians. what makes the nra more powerful than those groups? >> well, the nra has a 5 million-member grassroots network across the country, and they have more importantly than those big numbers, a lot of dedicated activists in each state who are very passionate, very informed, willing to show up, willing to call. they know how to pull the levers of democracy. if you have a small group of organized people, you can get very far even if there's a majority with big feelings who disapproves but isn't really show up to stop you. >> so we have a conversation now about bump stocks and they're just one set of small devices. so then how do we construct a larger conversation with new language around gun laws that will actually get somewhere, allison? >> well, i think language is important, but i also do put this on legislators and ask them to have

it was about 45 seconds after that nra statement came out indicating that the nra would be open to a review by the atf of bump stocks, should be noted that the atf has already determined that those bump stocks are legal because they are not actually a weapon they are simply a part of a firearm in and of themselves, this plastic or plastic device essentially. sara sanders made news when she said that the president would be open to that conversation. she repeated that several times and i want to play you a little bit of what else she had to say. listen. >> does the president support legislation that would ban or regulate bump stocks? >> right now our focus, as we've said over the last couple of days, has been on healing and uniting the country. the investigation still continues to be in very early stages. we know that both -- members of both parties in multiple organizations are planning to take a look at bump stocks and related devices. we certainly welcome that. would like to be part of that conversation and we would like to see a clear understanding of the facts and we would like to

i think it's probably a pretty smart move by the nra. i think they probably don't wa nt to the nra. i think they probably don't want to be defeated in a battle over banning or highly regulating these bumps stocks. it's probably not an important issue to them. it's better for them to get on the side of further regulation or even banning them to avoid a legislative defeat. not much chance of defeat in any other way for the nra and the gun lobby, is there? they poured millions of dollars into president trump's campaign and many other people in congress. that is absolutely right. we have never had absolutely right. we have never had a federal gun control law favourable to the proponents of control, except when the democrats upheld the white house and both houses of congress. there are people suspecting this is an attempt to distract attention from the move by the nra and others to legalise silencers. i don't think people will get distracted. probably not the right time to push the repeal of the silencers, prohibition, they also have a very strong interest in a universal right to carry l

and nra is big supporter of the president? >> look, as i said a few minutes ago, we welcome certainly that and a conversation on that. that hasn't changed. that is something we're very open to. we want to be a part of the conversation moving forward. blake. >> let me ask you one on puerto rico and one on taxes. going back to puerto rico, you said with the debt there is a process in place and that the process will play out. does that mean that the president's comments simply wiping away the debt is no longer on the table? >> the president wants that to go through that process. that is the stage we are in this. p. >> on tax reform, sarah, chuck schumer, right now or scheduled to have a news conference about state and local tax deduction being wiped off the books. how they should stay on the books. there is currently one republican senator, seven republicans at least in the house, who want that to stay as part of the tax framework. the president talked about red lines. is he up for negotiation on salt or something for him that is

nra. why did you leave? >> i left because my nra was all about safety, marksmanship and responsibility. and i'm absolutely convinced that the nra has abandoned the responsibility. >> what do you think the nra is about today, then? >> i think they're about supporting the gun manufacturing industry. you just mentioned the bump stocks. the nra should have been out in front of that, when those devices first came out, they should have gone and supported and sponsored legislation to ban them. just like the nra did in 1936 when they sponsored the making fully automatic machine guns illegal. >> i understand that your daughter was wounded in the 2006 seattle jewish federation shooting. did that have an influence on your decision in terms of the way you view gun-control issues in this country? >> yes, it certainly did. >> how so? >> i saw -- i saw the inaction that was taking place in the nra and -- after my daughter was shot and my granddaughter was abducted. i expected some action on their part an

of legislation, would you, sir, stop accepting the nra's funding? records show that you have received $9,500 from the nra since being elected to congress. >> i didn't know that. thank you for pointing that out. >> you didn't know you received $9,500 from the nra? >> no. i don't categorize or go through who gives me money for certain issues or what have you. but regardless, brooke, this has to do with -- you can always say this is the first step in coming after my guns. i own four guns. i have two shotguns and two handguns. i believe that i have the right -- second amendment right to own those guns. i actually carry one of those guns when i'm not doing this job back home at my district in a concealed way. i'm a concealed weapons holder in florida. i carry one around for my own protection. i do not feel that this is the same thing as somebody attaching a device to the end of a sec my automatic rifle to make it automatic and be able to shoot down into a jason aldean concert 400 rounds a minute, i think shooting for over five minutes. >> nine to 11 minu

nra members at that concert were more horrified than you and i. a fair question is asking if banning me from owning these would prevent a criminal for misusing them is a fair question, and what you have to do is look at what has congress done? congress banned high-capacity magazines for ten years and bill clinton's bill clinton's own justice department said it had no impact on crime. california still bands those magazines but did not prevent san bernardino or santa barbara. it does not stop murderers with machine gun. >> chris: even when you see the horrific video and he is hiring because of bump stock end of the magazine is able to fire 100 round in a few seconds, less than a minute. it no qualms about allowing people? why should, in 30 seconds if you will, why do shooters need people to protect themselves, why do they need magazines with 100 round? >> it is intentionally designed to scare people. it they own magazines for different sizes. it depends what you have them for. people can own thing for safety and responsibility without hurting anybod

the nra surprise a lot of people this week: four atf to review bump stocks. here is part of her statement. "the nra believes devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifle to function like fully automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulation." this revelation had been on the books for seven years, why is the nra suddenly concerned, and what specifically would you like to see atf do? >> what we called for was atf to review any device that allows semiautomatic to function like a fully automatic. it is illegal to convert a semiautomatic playfully automatic. what the national rifle association said it was atf has to do their job, review these, and if there is a further regulation, we will work on further regulation. pure evil, and we have seen evil existed in this country, box cutters on airplanes, car bombs, trucks full of explosives, and firearms. as we have this conversation we have a look at the broader picture and have an honest discussion about what works and what doesn't work, and our concern is all the focus on devices takes away the attention

the nra starts with vote nra first and then you vote for everything else if you choose to. if you get tired, just do nra. >> it sounded like willie brown thinks there is a chance that nra can support a bump stock ban. does that open the door to the possibility of other gun control? >> i think there is hope that that's what it will be. i interviewed congress woman spear and she said this is a small issue. that's a good thing if we will ban it or regulate it but let's not mistake that for real gun control legislation and bigger gun control legislation they want to see happen. >> obviously the democrats want more than that. >>> international news, president trump scepticism about whether negotiating with north korea will be effective. yesterday he tweeted presidents and their administrations have been talking to north korea for 25 years. agreements and massive amounts of money paid hasn't worked. agreements violated before the ink was dry making fools of u.s. negotiators. sorry but only one thing will work. he didn't say what that one thing was. the president has not clarified

it's not like the nra wasn't there for them. but if -- if it wouldn't happen after newtown, it's no going to happen now. >> when asked whether or not they would consider gun legislation, several senate republicans offered the same answer. let's watch them in action here. >> i think it's particularly inappropriate to politicize an event like this. it just happened within the last day and a half. sbieshly premature to be discussing about legislative solutions if any. >> we should be talking about understanding the facts around this event and we could have that discussion at another time. i'm willing to have an intelligent discussion about it but not in the middle of a crisis that the people in las vegas are dealing with right now. >> i'm not for changing the law right now. i am against politicizing this. >> that dialogue does need to occur but i don't think now is the time for this. you know, we have a lot of victims, we have a lot of survivors. we have a lot of families in town right now and right now our focus needs to be on tho

is she going to blame it nra, that's not even a smart political move. if the nra is the villain. you are letting people off the hook, politicians off the hook. how can you blame an organization who says we are going to hold the line on gun rights. we know what they want to do. politicians can listen to the nra or not. kennedy: if you buy ideas and entire parties, then she would be president. tom: then she would know what happened. but the money they donated to republicans, it's not that much. kennedy: it was $800,000 in the 2016 fall cycle. tom: so what are they worried about? kennedy: it's an easy demon and it takes us away from that conversation. we don't talk about better protection for women and problems of loneliness. even asking yourself the question, might i be struggling with something. so when you don't have those kinds of conversations it can lead down devastating roads to acting out in this way or to suicide. so if we are not having those conversations, we are not getting to the root issue which is why do people kill people. i have been attacked opening twitter because

jane: why has the nra become so powerful? nick: if you're a republican and campaign, they could finance against you in the republican primary locus. you risk losing your seat if you go up against the nra. jane: thank you very much. president trump tweeted this morning that his secretary of state never threatened to resign and said congress should investigate the media for spreading fake news. mr. trump was responding to a report from nbc yesterday that rex tillerson was so fed up working with the administration that he had to be persuaded not to step down. for more, my colleagues katty kay and christian fraser spoke to william for their program " e.on and 100 days." william cowan -- choen -- cohen. state,ed as secretary of for those leaders to know you have the full backing of president clinton when you --ked with him. bill: him. bill: it was critical for my ability to carry out the mission of our country, subject to the president's direction. what is astonishing to me, there does not seem to be an interagency process whereby

the nra does not want congress to pass a law. they want the trump administration to write a new rule. >> if you take a look at it, any look at it, it takes a semi automatic firearm and makes it perform like a fully automatic firearm. it makes it function like one. what the nra said is we ought to take a look at that and see if it's in compliance with federal law. it's worthy of additional regulation. that being said, we didn't say ban. we didn't say confiscate. >> that raises an interesting question. if you have legislation that says ban, does the nra oppose it and say it will go on the report card or if you vote for this, we will spend money against you in a republican primary? >> you mention that the republicans on the hill know what bump stocks were. i talked to folks who talked to the upper levels of the leadership at the nra and they didn't know what bump stocks were. this freaked them out. the idea that you can turn these semi automatic into automatic. this raises the question and i think what he is getting at is if you put

nra exists for members. nra works with million of law-abiding, innocent americans all across this country and you know, we're keeping them in mind as well right now. we're also thinking, i think about this can i point out really quickly though yesterday, it was said on this network yesterday, your heart breaks for those who were wounded and killed in las vegas. many among those were nra members. this idea that we're going to politicize something before an investigation is even conclude hurts the heart even more. abby: can i ask this? what would the nra say, what would you say, to folks that make argument no one needs assault rifle, no one need to own a weapon simply out to kill dozen people at a time? how would they respond to that? >> i would say i think they need to redefine what a assault weapon is. we had certain laws on the books that regulated. what they define full auto and machine guns since 1986. they are virtually banned at this point. we can have a discussion all day long, this is a broader discus

is she going to blame it nra, that's not even a smart political move. if the nra is the villain. you are letting people off the hook, politicians off the hook. how can you blame an organization who says we are going to hold the line on gun rights. we know what they want to do. politicians can listen to the nra or not. kennedy: if you buy ideas and entire parties, then she would be president. tom: then she would know what happened. but the money they donated to republicans, it's not that much. kennedy: it was $800,000 in the 2016 fall cycle. tom: so what are they worried about? kennedy: it's an easy demon and it takes us away from that conversation. we don't talk about better protection for women and problems of loneliness. even asking yourself the question, might i be struggling with something. so when you don't have those kinds of conversations it can lead down devastating roads to acting out in this way or to suicide. so if we are not having those conversations, we are not getting to the root issue which is why do people kill people. i have been attacked opening twitter because

with this joint statement from the nra, they say the nra is calling on the atf to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. the nra believes the device is designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. that's quite a development. >> well, it is. look. this is a way to deal with gun control without dealing with the entire issue of gun control. >> as you just sat down, there she is, sarah sanders. >> yesterday three u.s. service members and one partner nation member were killed while providing assistance to counterterror operations. as many of you are aware, ufrmt s. forces are in the country to provide training the the local arms forces. in their efforts to counter violent extremist organizations. additionally two u.s. service members were injured and evacuated in stable condition to germany. names are being withheld at this time as part of the next of kin notification process. our thoughts and prayers are with the friends and family of the service members who made the ultimate sacrif

the nra is trying to keep the issue out of congress. to see them take a tactical retreat at all is unusual. >> bret: in the virginia race, it's also the other way. there are a lot of gun owners in virginia who don't like any talk about any restrictions and even democrats in southern virginia who fall into that. there is some push from the left. >> i think the right to keep and bear arms issue helps ed gillespie. i am not as conversant with virginia politics as the rest of you but it's got to help him. >> bret: thank you. when we come back, an update that hundreds of you have asked for. when you really want to save big on a hotel just go to priceline. they add thousands of new deals every day at up to 60% off. that's how kaley and i got to share this trip together at this amazing hotel. yeah ash and i share everything - dresses, makeup, water bottles... we do? mmhmm. we share secrets, shoes, toothbrushes... what? yeah i forgot mine so i've been using yours. seriously? what's the big deal? i mean, we even dated the same guy. who?! uh, go

i have an f rating from the nra as my grade but if the nra and gun owners agree that lunatics shouldn't have access to machine guns, well, that's a start. there is a law a 1986 law banning machine guns but these bump stocks allow semi automatic rifles to act like a machine gun and so if congress can ban machine guns it seems to me they can ban a device that makes a semi automatic like a machine gun. >> as someone who probably positioned yoursf side that you would like to see more regulation and more gun control aren't you arguing over the margins here. we're talking about bump stocks not the actual weapons that carried out this attack. >> i don't consider 59 dead americans and more than 500 injured to be the margins. this guy could not have done what he did. >> but the weapon mark, we're not talking about the weapon, we're talking about the bump stock. >> the bump stock is what made that man's semi automatic weapon into a machine gun like weapon. he could have done a lot of carnage and frankly i would like to go farther, i would like to see ammunition clips limited, i think assault weap

you know well the money that's put out there by the nra. what do you think the chances are that the people who are pushing for this very narrow legislation can get it done? >> chris, it's always good to be with you, as you noted, i wish the circumstances and the subject was different. we need to act and if it requires some small steps initially, that's fine, but let's get the right direction. we did move forward with president clinton to pass the brady bill which is a simple background check. i am from arkansas, a hunting state, there is no talk here of taking any hunters guns away, that's totally a different subject. but we have had far too many of these tragedies, we need to take some basic steps regarding gun safety. i think the odds are at least in the art of the possible and hopefully in the art of the doable, but you've already noted there will be strong forces against this and president trump is frankly in a pretty difficult position politically. >> we've heard this song before, we heard it after new town, we heard it after virginia

there were nra members shot at that concert, and nra members murdered at that concert. so the american people are looking for answers and so are we. >> tucker: so the nra that was blamed for this, was a shootings often and remember hymns? are have you checked? >> of course not, they plan to an organization whose members don't commit the crime. >> tucker: is so you know that for sure? >> yes. >> tucker: them where people blaming you? what the agenda? >> they said, with i had 51 votes, turn the mauling, that's what she would do. >> tucker: turned them all in, meaning? >> turn your guns in. right now, the american people are looking for answers, but the american people are also looking for their second amendment, they are looking for congress to respect the second amendment, that is why we are calling on congress to do something, let atf do their job, and congress needs to do their job, although good, honest people the ability to defend themselves, pass reforms, that have a broader conversation about what we can do to keep people safer because, if we go down this road of g

and it is interesting to hear the nra came out and said what it is for. and you see a comfort level, you don't know which came first. is there a comfort level that the nra will be for getting rid of the bump stock so republican members are okay and now the debate is is it a vote in congress or a regulation by the trump administration. >> and i think that is why the nra steps in and they knew they had to do something and they would prefer a regulation or rule over legislation which they have been the top proponents of the argument once you ban a bump stock next it is a slippery slow where they are showing up at your door to take your guns away which isn't true but that is the line. so i think that is the comfort level that they found. it gave some is republicans cover to back that approach even though they are seeing some republicans open to legislation, i think that is probably a life line that they threw out today. >> ramesh, there seems to be you have some republicans that want to go on the record with a vote and some that want to see this banned but do

the nra rightly supports regulation. next we hear from dana last, her nra ads are powerful. what does she about bumps stock regulation? the third hour of "varney and company" is about to begin. let's get right at it. our first guest is republicans should support a ban on bump stocks. a piece in the washington post called a loophole that all republicans should want to close. i have read your piece. i think you agree with the nra position and republicans should support it. that is news because republicans and the nra traditionally against any kind of regulation. >> we will talk about regulation in a second but bump stock most people agree including nra supporters that bump stocks should be banned. in 1986 ronald reagan signed legislation that banned automatic weapons. it has been in effect 30 years supported by republicans and democrats, the nra, and bump stocks are a regulatory loophole that allow people to get around the automatic weapons been. this is not new gun control regulation but an effort to close the loophole that someone has come up with to turn a semi automatic we

waiting for the nra to give us a green light. >> the president and congress are beholden to the nra allowing a shooter to kill 59 americans with these and cannot infringe upon those legitimate rights of gun owners. and to make a safer place. so now turning to the humanitarian crisis importer rico and the virgin islands yesterday congress received a request from the administration for a supplemental aid package to help puerto rico and the virgin islands and other hit by storms also money for the western states for though wildfires it is a good first that but it is just a start of a long recovery and a relief effort that will require additional aid from this congress. the islands are just turning to assess the damage and once they hit can assume how devastating they were bewildered what - - respond immediately for additional support to assist recovery and rebuilding. >> second, i am one of my colleagues on the other side, particularly those in the house not to attach any ideological policy writers to this urgent a package. those changes to flood insurance program and policy should come nowhere

the nra is a paper tiger. what they do is they pick on one state representative or one congressman, and they pour all their money into that one race and defeat that one person and say, see, we can do it to you. but if everyone stands up and has the guts and the courage of their convictions and everyone votes the right way, the nra will be powerless to do anything about it. and any senator, democrats included, any senator who doesn't support this common sense gun legislation ought to be ashamed of themselves. how much more does it take? what will it take to get congress to act? >> professor, i looked at the republican platform today. you don't have to be partisan. i know you're a professional. but the republican platform protects magazines, it protects ar-15s. it protects everything that even discussed. they haven't gotten to this bump thing yet. this thing that changes the gun into an automatic. but they clearly, when they hear something's coming their way, they want to put it in their platform and say, leave

the nra agrees. we need to have a conversation as a country on a bipartisan basis about why this keeps happening and how we can prevent it. there have been 1500 mass shootings since sandy hook. >> greg: that is an exaggeration and you know it. >> marie:: it's not. >> greg: defined a mass shooting. >> marie:: the studies i'm quoting from our over four people killed. >> lisa: that also includes gang violence. >> marie:: okay. so it doesn't make it okay. >> greg: you are using a specific term. >> marie: i just defined it for you. >> greg: it's a miscalculation miscalculation. a little dishonest. steve >> marie: , whatever you t to call it. >> greg: what about the machine gun attacks in france. they have a machine gun attack. >> marie: no where near the number. >> lisa: this is going to happen. the nra has said today republicans have already introduced legislation. this is absolutely happening. the problem is my understanding is you can replicate this on your own. therein lies the problem. because bad pe

the nra tried to characterize its an absolute right. but rehnquist went of his way in writing that amendment, like background check, like making sure that domestic abusers can't get their hands on gruns, like making sherr that people who have been admitted to mental hospitals can't get their hands on guns. the interesting thing about the debate is that there's lots happening in the states. the states are taking this issue and treating it seriously. since sandy hook, 24 states have passed laws making it harder for abusers to get guns. what's amazing is these are common sense measures, they are actually legal under any interpretation of the second amendment. and they save lives. and the american public is looking for answers. and at the moment where we have had the worst mass shooting in american history, the nr arknra answer is let's relax our laws, let's make it easier for people to get guns, let's deregulate silencers, let's make it possible for the person who got a permit in the state that had the weakest law to carry it anywhere in t

i am luke holmes and i am nra countntry." this interesting a lot of that to hear what caleb keeter, the country star said after this concert that he was in saying, "enough is enough. changing his position on guns. kira lerner, thank you for being with us at thinkprogress, and lois beckett of the guardian. thank you so much. we turn to international efforts around guns. i am amy goodman with juan gonzalez. juan: we turn to efforts by president obama to use some restrictions on u.s. weapons sales overseas, which has raised concerns about flooding the international market with high-tech weapons. according to press reports, the changes would include allowing the state department and pentagon to more actively advocate on behalf of american arms manufacturers, and are set to be included in an executive order or presidential memorandum that trump plans to issue this fall. amy: this comes as the u.s. is already the global leader in weapons exports, accounting for more than half the world's annual arms deals. fofor more, we're joined

the nra's point world view is more guns more places. i would love to see democrats take on the world view and say that's not a world view that's going to make our children safer. >> brad one of the debates that was being had inside the leadership of the nr during mansion toomey because there was some thought, there were some who said you know what let's not score it. let mansion toomey happen, let that one go. and there was a fight about that. some argued inside the nra said hey we want to have juice both with the democrats and the republicans. but when they decided not to do that it cost them any remaining democratic support that they had. there a risk of being all or nothing. >> i think your timing is off. i think the democrats left the gun rights movement before that. in the 2010 elections the nra endorsed 60 members of the house. that number is down to six. >> because they were voted out. there is no shuler's left. >> they got voted out. >> they don't recruit in those places. >> ohio. >> the nra doesn't support them. >> nra stands b

democrats slamming the nra and calling for stricter gun laws. little is know on the weapon used but audio suggests there is at least one automatic rifle. fully automatic weapons are only legal with a special permit required fingerprinting and federal approval. some are speculating to legal office sit shelf device was use. it could've been bolted onto a semiautomatic rifle which could've increase the speed of fire. nevada doesn't require permit to carry a rifle or shotgun. the county where las vegas is located requires a license. officials continue to investigate the suspect. i'm diana reporting for chasing news. >> i one bring in an expert, his former special agent of the dea and fbi, to discuss security. what measures could've been taken and what kind of preparation could've gone into this mess killing. thanks for joining me. how much planning would've this taken. how long was he potentially planning to carry out this act. >> he could've taken months to planet. unfortunately he had it just right. his timing was there, the room was in the right

indicated today, the nra, that they might be open to further regulation of this part, which again can be bolted on to the hugely popular long gun, the ar 15 type rifle and the ak 47. so with us tonight, nbc news correspondent steve patterson who spent some time yesterday out in the nevada desert at one of numerous places in the nevada desert talking with a firearms expert about the kinds of weapon the gunman owned and used. steve, take it away. explain what this is. >> reporter: well, brian, in sort of the tragic irony in all this, the larger gun ownership community really before this week considered these bump fire stocks to sort of be something of a novelty, almost like a toy. i mean, nobody seriously involved in the marksmanship community, in the hunting community, certainly in law enforcement or in the military would ever really consider practically using these things. so for the purpose of what we're talking about, obviously semiautomatic rifle, one pull, one shot. fully automatic rifle you hold that trigger down and the gun continues to fire. what this does not do is fully conve