american islamic forum president zuhdi jasser is here. it's good to see you as, as always. >> thank you, cheryl. cheryl: what do you think caused the attack in this particular case? >> well, i think we're finding around the world, cheryl, that as isis gets squeezed in syria, iraq, the jihad brand is at risk. so all of the jihadists that went to get on this global bandwagon filling vacuums in yemen, syria, somalia, iraq, they want to sort of use this as recruitment tools and what better recruitment believe it or not for these barbarians than about the attacks? so it's about filling a brand and the blind characterizations domesticall domestically. it doesn't have anything to do with our rhetoric, and, yes, they might act out at the end as we get closer to decimating them, but it's really what's happening internally within the house of muslim. most of them people killed are modern muslims. cheryl: it's interesting because other muslim-majority nations like pakistan, egypt, indonesia, even turkey have been attacked just in the past six months