let's adjudicate him. or, you step forward and say, he might have hit two ex-wives, those are the allegations, how do you adjudicate that and why can't you adjudicate an expedited security clearance for a white house official in seven months? let me tell you what i think happened here. i think the fbi sent over a really nasty package in july, they updated it in november and the white house guys said, wow, we're not sure what to do with this one. that's what happened here, i think. >> gloria, i mean, we're a week in. the white house story does keep changing every day. previously, they were saying the fbi process hadn't finished, the law enforcement intelligence community and now it's this office. >> i mean, it's kind of m malpractice, coming from the podium at the white house. they had to know that the fbi director was testifying today. that he was going to be asked about this. and that he was going to provide a record of what the fbi did. and he was quite clear that the information had been given to them m

it was still in the investigative process and had yet to be adjudicated. prior to an adjudication, the white house is not going to step into the middle of the process and short circuit it. >> that was at 8:40 and two hours later, you heard fbi chris wray saying that wasn't true and a completed background investigation in july. try and keep up, because that is a totally different time line than what press secretary sarah sanders described just yesterday. >> we learned of the extent of the situation involving porter last tuesday evening and within 24 hours his resignation had been accepted and announced. we let the process play out. it was ongoing and hadn't been completed. this is a process that doesn't operate within the white house. it is handled by law enforcement. did not receive any completed papers regarded with that background check. >> that is not true. sanders blamed an ongoing process one that supposedly doesn't operate in the white house. not operating in the white house. then, the fbi director testifies and today, sarah sanders is asked what acc

they have not completed the process to make adjudication to the white house. >> there is papers with the background check. >> that's part of the process they play run by career officials will not received a recommendation. >> the fbi director said under out that the background information was cemented in late july, so which one is it? >> white house personnel security office received information last year what they consider the final background report in november. they have not final recommendation because it was still ongoing reporter resign. the july report required significant investigatory fieldwork before the field office could evaluate the information for adjudication. final statements to be consistent. [inaudible] so if chief of staff john kelly and what he knew and when instead of the communication staff for allowing -- in the firing of bob porter? >> were given you the best information we have. the press team is not going to be quite as -- paris relay the best and most accurate information we have. >> talk about the other staffers being dismissed for not having background ch

that office had not completed their process in order to make a recommendation for adjudication to the white house. that was still ongoing, and, therefore, recommendations had not been made. reporter: you said the specific papers regarding the completion of the background check had not been received. sarah: that's part of that process that the white house personnel security office plays. run by career officials. and we hadn't received a recommendation from that office. reporter: yet, the f.b.i. director said under oath, the completed background investigation was actually submitted in late july. so which one is it? sarah: let me read this to you again. the white house personnel security office, staffed by career officials, received information last year in what they considered to be the final background investigation report in november. but they had not made a final recommendation for adjudication to the white house because the process was still ongoing when porter resigned. in the view of personnel security office, the july report required significant investigatory field office before

anyone adjudicated as mentally incompetent or a danger to society should be added to the check system and prevented from getting their hands on a gun. watch what i released three years ago and the media machine all over the country, they so callously and completely ignored it. >> here is what the media won't tell you. the nra has fought for 20 years to put the record of those adjudicated mentally incompetent into the national instant check system. until the politicians demand that they are submitted, killers who are legally prohibited from owning firearms, will walk into gun stores and pass every background check they take. if they really wanted to make a difference, the media would lead every newscast with a reminder that the names of millions of violent felons, criminal bang bangers and adjudicated mentally incompetent and dangerous people are missing from the background check system. but no one gets ratings by telling the truth about how to stop mass killers. so they don't report the 38 states that reported less than 80% of their felony convictions in the systems. they don't tell y

and what the audience will might seven months in adjudication? that's after the file initially closed in july and they couldn't figure out whether to give him clearance? that is a long time. there's only one reason why i assume there was a problem with the file. >> so i take it that's not a legit excuse. porter was among this group of 30 to 40 staffers who still don't have clearance, including jared kushner who handles highly classified information. dan coates, director of national intelligence said that the clearance process is broken. >> i think sometimes it is necessary to have some type of preliminary clearance in order to fill a slot. if that's the case the access has to be limited in terms of the kind of information they can be in a position to receive or the process needs to be removed. as senator warner has previously said, it's not evolution. it's revolution. >> so explain why these people wouldn't have this full clearanc clearance. >> the white house is sort of right unless you start digging into the details. senior official going to th

but it does come down to the adjudication process. and that's something that's supposed to happy within some clarity within the white house. because they're the ones that hold the clearance here. but given the information we know publicly, things like the photograph and whatnot, that makes the adjudication process very difficult. and, you know, withdraw, who did drop the ball and why did it happen that way? >> and ashley, a word about mr. porter. as we've stressed this week, the title of staff secretary is one of those misleading titles. it's more accurately the deputy chief of staff, more likely the promotion he would have had had he stayed. documents, phone calls, communications with the entire web of the rest of the government. having put it that way and knowing what we know about these allegations in mr. porter's past, you've done some reporting tonight about how and why he was able to last as long as he did. >> so the reason he was able to last as long as he did was that in this white house we all know it's incredibly chaotic, in

that office had not completed their process in order to make a recommendation for adjudication to the white house. that was still ongoing. and therefore recommendation had not been made. >> you said the specific papers regarding the completion of the background check had not been received. >> that is part of that process that the personnel security office plays run by career officials and we hadn't received a recommendation from that office. >> yet the fbi director said today under oath that the completed background je investigation was actually submitted in late july. >> let me read this to you again. the white house personnel security office staffed by career officials received information last year and what they considered to be the final background investigation report in november. but they had not made a final recommendation forred a used indication to the white house because the process was still on going when porter resigned. in the view of personnel security office, the fbi's july report required significant additional investigatory field work before personnel security office

there's a question of adjudication. until they are denied something, they are allowed to do it. back to the larger picture, if there's a system in place where law enforcement and mental health provide rs and family members report information into a system everyone sees, that solves a couple problems, first of being, imagine the scenario all the people who saw the warning signs, the individual blinking red, if that information was provided, perhaps the fbi agent searching on a youtube poster, that name would have hit somewhere. that's a potential area to interdict and stop the plot. secondly, the weapons, if that information was fed in, vice versa. the fbi involved as well. if that information they saw was presented against the person, that's factored in before a weapon is approved for purchase. >> and the antidefamation league said the suspect was associated with a white supremist group, pra participated in a training exercise with them. again, nothing -- it's not against the law to be a hateful b b bigot and participate in training exercises. >> again, we go back to the sharing

do about someone that's clearly mentally deranged but haven't acted out in a way that allows you to adjudicate them as dangerously mentally ill or

>> if they haven't been adjudicated, gun ownership is an individual right. if i said to you, the media's part of the problem here -- >> should this -- >> we need to ban the media from talking about these shootings. you would say, there's a first amendment right, you can't do that. that's the way this country works. there is a bill of rights -- >> yes, there is a bill of rights. then if congress or someone decided to do something about that, then we could talk about that. >> to do something about the bill of rights? >> yeah. >> do what? >> do something about it -- >> if you want to have -- >> there's nothing that stops -- >> what do you want to do about the bill of rights? >> there's nothing that stops people from having conversations about it. don't overtalk me. listen to the president. the president talks about all the time the media. he hates the media. he's upset about the media. he has a conversation about the media. the sheriff today says, please, media, don't put the cameras in anyone's face. did anyone say, oh my gosh, stop doing it! no, we're free to

, he or sheis prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal law , but getting somebody adjudicated, mentally defective or committed, do you believe there are enough laws on the books for the process to happen? >> i don't know enough about the mental health laws. but taking a step back when they had the virginia, university of virginia shooter, the young student who did very well in school, he went out and killed a bunch of people, don't know how long ago that was. if we were to put a black mark on everybody who goes to counseling because they are going through stress because they are having a problem, just thinking about former military people who o have come home and needed some counseling to get back into society because of ptsd or because of the stress that they encountered while overseas . if you all of a sudden we were to say now that person is on our record and forever they are not going to be authorized to get a weapon or they're not going to be authorized to get a security background track because they had mental health problems, that's going to prevent people from seeking

. >> they had not made the final adjudication because the process was still ongoing when he resigned. it was run by career officials and we hadn't received a recommendation from that office. >> despite press secretary sarah sanders said monday the fbi handled t handled t handled the background check. >> it is handled by our intelligence community and we support process. >> she continued to maintain chief of staff kelly only became aware of the details of porter's past last week. even she appeared frustrated. >> i can only give you the best information and i have that's my understanding. >> director of national tense said the process is due for an overhaul. >> the process is broken. it needs to be reformed. we have 700,000 back-ups. we need people in places but they don't yet have that. >> even fellow republicans aren't happy. saying that the president hasn't done enough for victims of domestic abuse. >> i think he needs to send a stronger message. we need to allow women and men that have been abused to come out and make sure their stories are heard and believed. >> the white house sai

it says the fbi does not grant, deny or otherwise adjudicated indicate on behalf of the agencies. nor does it make any security clearance recommendations. after the fbi completes the back ground investigation, it provides the information to the agency adjudicator authority. in the case of rob porter, the fbi found this investigation. they handed it over to don mcgahn and the white house security office. and they made the decision that they wanted rob porter not only to remain in office but even a promotion. >> the daily brief to the president of the united states even though he didn't have the security clearance. >> jared kushner is one of those people jim acosta just referred to who did not receive the final clearance. that's the president's decision. he makes a decision as to who he wants. >> the full security clearances in a year, they probably won't get them but they're still on the job. all right. thank you very much. our justice correspondent. let's get more on all of this. a member of the intelligence and foreign affairs committees, thank you for joining us. >> so when the

the nra has fought for 20 years to put the records of those adjudicated, mentally incompetent into the national instant check system. and until the politicians demand that they are submitted, killers who are legally prohibited from owning firearms will walk into gun stores and pass every background check they take. so if they really wanted to make a difference, the media would lead every newscast with a reminder, that the names of millions of violent felons, criminal gang bangers, and adjudicated mentally incompetent and dangerous people are missing from the background check system. but no one gets ratings by telling the truth about how to stop mass killers. so they don't report that 38 states submit less than 80% of their felony convictions to the system. leaving more than 7 million felony convictions in the dark. they don't tell you the truth. instead, the only thing the average american has heard about background checks is the absolute fallacy that what we need is more. the system is only as good as the records within it. and the records only get submitted if the politicians demand

you have to go really far out of your way to choose as a legislative goal, people who are adjudicated to have serious debed debilitating illness to get guns from the database. that has to be a really specific legislative goal. you don't accidently hit that mark in a stand alone bill that does that. this is not any part of larger piece of legislation. this isn't a loophole. this is targeted legislation that did that and today he speaks in wonder and apparent outrage for some reason we can't get the names of the people with serious mental illness on the database. for some reason, he's personally and individually responsible for that being harder to do today than it was one year ago today. gun laws do not make themselves. we have the gun laws that we have today because of the lawmakers who we have today. none of them received our nation's gun laws on tablets on a mountain top. they are all in control of what gun laws we have. but if we were thinking they might reflect on that today in a mo moment of silence for american kids we murdered, they were scared away from doing their moment of s

they have not made a final recommendation for adjudication to the white house because the process was still on going when rob porter resigned. in the view of personnel security office, the fbi's july report required significant additional investigation before personnel security office could begin to evaluate the information for adjudication. as director wray said, information was still coming to the white house personnel security office in february. >> just to be clear then, the july report, going back to march, was there information contained in those reports ability the allegations about rob porter? >> i wouldn't have access to that information. i wouldn't know the answer. >> i want to talk ab one important fact. you acknowledge and you've said this again that the investigation was on going. christopher wray said it was closed in january. so who's telling the truth? >> well, as i said, the fbi portion was closed. the white house personnel security office, who's the one that makes the recommendation for adjudication had not finished their process and had not made a recommendation to

defective, mentally he or she is prohibited from possessing a firearm under law.al getting someone adjudicated mentally defective or committed, do you think there are enough laws on the books for that process to happen? guest: i do not know enough about the mental health laws. taking a step back, when they had the university of virginia student a young doing well in school, the pressure of school, he killed a bunch of people. was.get how long ago that if we were to put a black mark on everyone that goes to counseling because they are going through stress because they are having a problem -- i thinking a former military people that have come home and get backunseling to into society because of ptsd or stress that they encountered overseas. toall of a sudden we were say, now that person is on our record and forever they are not going to be authorized to get a aapon or authorized to get security background check because they had mental health problems, that will prevent people from seeking the help they need. is a double-edged sword. i think that there can be more in fornd more stops put purchasi

they had not made a final recommendation for adjudication to the white house because the process was ongoing when rob porter resigned. in the view of personnel security office, the fbi's july report required significant additional investigatory field work before personnel security office could begin to evaluate the information for adjudication. as director wray said, information was still coming to the white house personnel security office in february. reporter: just to be clear other in july report, back to march, was there information contained in those reports about the allegations about rob porter? >> i wouldn't have access to that information, i wouldn't know the answer to that, john, crystal? reporter: one important fact because you said the investigation was ongoing. christopher wray said it was closed in january. who's telling the truth here? >> both. as i said, the fbi portion was closed. the white house personnel security office, who is the one that makes the recommendation for adjudication, had not finished their process and therefore not made a recommendation to the white

speaker, if colleges and universities choose to adjudicate sexual assault on campus, independent of law enforcement investigation, then victims should have access to a campus victim advocate that is trained under title 9. this is only fair. schools must be prepared to deal with sexual assault victims that -- and must have access to a safe and they must have access to a victim advocate. otherwise, the victims will never know whether justice is served for them. and justice, mr. speaker, is supposed to be what we do, even on university campuses, and that's just the way it is. i'll yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. gutierrez, for five minutes. mr. gutierrez: thank you, mr. speaker. we sat here and heard the president's state of the union about in which he spoke immigration and immigrants. couple of things i want to highlight. no, mr. president, not all immigrants are, a, latino, and not all immigrants, mr. president, members of organized gangs, ms-13. i know you don't want to be fair and didn't want to talk

they adjudicate -- the white house ajud adjudicates the actul clearance, what we call sci, sensitive compartmented information, is done by te intense community, normally the c.i.a., we don't know specifically in this c but the white house itself makes this determination. eerse are usually car staffers, and i doubt they're the problem in this case. >> woodruff: rght. hen the f.b.i. would have provided the interim and firenal rt, the office of security would share that with the counsel's office, the white house cou'snsffice for the suitability determination. we have both determinations, two of them at once.i >> woodruff:ht. and that means the political people get involved. itwoodruff: how common for the white house to allow someone who has this kind of a problem in his or her background to serve in a high-level job, to have a security clearance? >> it's more common than it used to be. outside the white house, it'sha quite common t an interim clearance for a long period of time because there is a long backlog in the investigations. the higher up you go in positions like the white house,

it doesn't adjudicate them. that's up to the white house. think about it. we wouldn't know about any of this if wasn't for the daily mail. wasn't like this had come out. wasn't like the white house was forthcoming with this information. it was the reporting on it. >> that's what led to it. >> stick around. don't go too far away. there's more news. a potential breakthru on the peninsula. i no wondering, "what if?" uncertainties of hep c. i let go of all those feelings. because i am cured with harvoni. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it's been prescribed to more than a quarter million people. and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who've have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. before starting harvoni, your doctor will test to see if you've ever had hepatitis b, which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after harvoni treatment. tell your doctor if you've ever had hepatitis b, a liver transplant, other liver or kidney pr

national criminal background check system is .urrently incomplete those related to mental health adjudications and involuntary .ommitment orders holding federal agencies accountable for uploading , includingcords these missing records. rep -- keeping dangerous dangerous weapons out of the hands of felons, fugitives, drug -- persons of serious mental illness, other prohibited persons. i'll be the first to admit there's no single perfect solution. not the stop school violence at .r not the fixnics act but both of these bills can help save lives. the 86 planned school attacks the save utah app was unveiled in the 26th lives of medicine spared. i implore my friends on both sides of the aisle to come together for the safety of our children. rather than resorting to talking points i asked my colleagues to leadershipty was called to pass legislation that makes a difference. rather than retreating to our partisan parcels i call on republicans and democrats alike to surrender their rhetorical weapons for the good of the nation and the good of our children. all of us must look he on the horizon of polit

check that would not only include, if there was a criminal record or if someone had been awe jude -- adjudicated mentally incompetent but all the other myriad things was the shooter on the terrorist watch list. had the shooter been on then throw terrorist watch list that would have caught omar mateen because he had been on the terrorist watch list. he was the shooter in orlando. and all the other things surrounding mental health. if it can be available in a brown -- background check, common-sense background check, and we need to get the assault rifles off the streets. protecting our fellow citizens should be a top priority, and if making it more difficult for someone to walk into a store and purchase a weapon of war will do that, why can't we get that done? why? well, i'll tell you why. because there are folks that are more concerned about an a-plus rating from the nra than they are about providing those common-sense solutions to the problem. i want to read something that appeared in a national magazine, reprinted in the paper, that is published in broward county where the shooting occurred. it'

we can't a adjudicate it because we are sitting on a firecracker. they say if we can't close it, shut it out. >> i don't know if you remember this but during the 2016 election there was a lot of talk about hillary clinton's mishandling of classified information. >> it's ringing a bell, alisyn. >> is it okay that rob porter was handling classified information? >> that is the thrust of the contradiction here, alisyn. you have dozens of people in the white house who don't have security clearance. this is a president and a white house many who spoke on the record critical of handling secure information by hillary clinton, by other officials. on obviously it should be taken seriously regardless of party. this is not a normal number of people with spweur eupl securin security clearance that it is raising this level of red flags with the fbi and with the personnel office. >> well, look. again, phil, this winds up becoming a frustrating conversation. when it was dealing with hillary clinton or dealing with military members who got nailed for classified info

especially those related to mental health adjudications and involuntary commitment orders. the bipartisan fix nics act well ensure more of those record make it into the database by holding federal agencies accountable for uploading relevant reports and incentivizing states to uploot all relevant information, including these missing records, will help ensure moring a security complete background checks, thereby keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of felons, fugitives, drug addicts, persons with serious mental illness and other prohibited persons. i will be the first admit there is no single perfect solution. not the stop school violence act and not the fix nics act, but both bills can help save lives. remember the 86 planned school attack us since the safe utah app was unveiled, and remember the 26 lives that might have been spared if the domestic violence shooter in texas has been properly entered into the fbi background database. mr. president, now is not the time for argument but for action. rather than letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, i immore my frie

newscast with a reminder that the names of millions of a violent felons, criminal gang bangers, and adjudicated mentally incompetent and dangerous people are missing from the background check system. but no one gets ratings by telling the truth about how to stop mass killers. so they do not report that 38 states have met less than 80% of their felony convictions to the system, leaving more than 7 million felony convictions in the dark. they do not tell you the truth. instead, the only thing the average american has heard about background checks is the absolute fallacy that what we need is more. the system is only as good as the records within it, and the records only get submitted if the politicians demand it. what do the oregon killer, the dbj killer, the charleston church killer, the santa barbara killer, the maryland mall killer, the l.a. airport killer, the d.c. navy yard killer, the aurora movie theater killer, the tucson killer, the virginia tech killer, and both fort hood killers have in common? every single one of them passed a background check. if you pass a net and the fish swim throu

of porter's interim clearance at the it was adjudicated, who adjudicated his clearance, and what derogatory information was subsequently made available to the white house on porter when and to whom? and because the fbi director, christopher wray has already testified that the fbi told the white house everything they needed to know about rob porter months before john kelly says they did, chairman gowdy sent the same letter to the fbi with the same deadlines for answers next wednesday and the same questions, what derogatory information was subsequently made available to the white house on porter, when and to whom? so even though the rob porter story has gone quiet, as it should while we cover the massacre of 17 people in florida, john kelly and don mcgahn know that even if they try to drag their feet and somehow slow down their response to the chairman of the committee, the fbi will get its homework in on time, and the fbi will be telling the chairman next week, if not sooner, exactly what derogatory information was subsequently made available to the white house on porter, when and to whom, a

the kelly memo says that anyone who's investigation or security clearance adjudication has not begun, had not you know by june 1st, would lose his or her clearance. you have to remember it took jared four tries to submit his paperwork with the last submission taking place in june after that june 1st deadline. one reading of kelly's decree is that jared's -- neither his investigation nor certainly his adjudication began before that june 1st deadline. you can imagine that white house taking advantage of the loophole. >> ned price for me has unlocked the mystery, that's what it sounds like to me. one thing hard to believe is john kelly has the authority and the power to control anything about jared kushner after a couple of weeks of humiliation of john kelly. >> that's true. and it's hard in any case when you're dealing with the president's son-in-law. this is why nepotism is not a good idea, because kushner cannot be held to the same standards as others. this would be an interesting indication of what the relatively power levels are. but i'm with you, it seems doubtful that kelly can tr

that office had not completed their process in order to make a recommendation for adjudication to the white house. that was ongoing. recommendation had not been made. >> regarding the completion of the background checks had not been received -- >> that's part of that process. that's run by career officials and we haven't received a recommendation from that office. >> had the fbi director today said under oath that the completed background investigation was submitted in late july, so which one is it? >> let me read this to you again. the white house security office received information last year in what they considered to be the final background investigation report in november. they had not made a final recommendation to the white house because the process was still ongoing when porter resigned. in the view of a personal security office, the july report required significant additional investigatory field work before personnel security office could begin to evaluate the information for adjudication. we find those statements to be consistent with one another. >> [inaudible] is there a f

. >> almost every case they passed a background check because they hadn't been adjudicated and weren't guilt of crimes. there is no background check you can devise. >> you could devise it. >> so how are you going to jude kate someone who hasn't. >> joan wait a minute. you can do a background check have the length be longer. >> if you're talking. >> also where it doesn't have to be jude indicated. it could be a doctor. send people to be checked. checked records when it comes to psychology. >> people who are troubled and mentally ill have more interventions i agree with you. i agree with you but you're criticizing donald trump for saying that. >> i'm criticizing all politicians. >> it's a constitutional right. >> regardless republican or democrat who won't broach the subject of how we get sensible gun legislation to stop this from happening. >> we talk about it all the time. the solutions -- the solutions you offer have no interaction with the horrific crimes. if you can give me. >> propose that people who. >> we can have a conversation. >> diane feinstein proposed people on the terror w

but they had not made a final recommendation for adjudication to the white house because the process was still ongoing when rob porter resigned. in the view of personnel security office, the report required additional significant investigatory work before personnel office could begin to evaluate the information for adjudication. >> notice the word that does not appear anywhere in that written white house statement that she was reading. "march." the month of march never appears in anything the white house press secretary said today, and the fbi director said this morning under oath that the fbi submitted a partial report in march. and we know that partial report included the accusations from rob porter's two former wives of physical abuse and violence. we know that the fbi obtained the photograph of rob porter's first wife's black eye in january, and that she says she got that black eye from one punch thrown by her then husband rob porter. "the washington post" has previously reported that white house counsel don mcgahn knew all what the fbi was finding early last year. don mcgahn obv

final background investigation report in november, but they had not made a final recommendation for adjudication to the white house because the process was still ongoing when porter resigned inform the view of personnel security office, the fbi's july report required significant additional investigatory field work before personnel security office could begin to evaluate the information for adjudication. we find those statements to be consistent with one another. jack? reporter: mr. mcgann give you statements regarding what he knew and knew it? reporter: tend to relay whatever information you know up there. is there a feeling chief of staff kelly misled and you his colleagues what he knew and when instead of the communications staff for failing to comply communication in order to cover up the way he fired rob porter? >> we're giving you the best information we have. obviously, the press team is not read in, maybe other elements on a variety of topics, but we relay the best and most accurate information we have and get those from the individuals. reporter: can you talk about the other staffers who

the white house personnel security office who is the one that makes a recommendation for adjudication had not finished their part. >> let me clarify one more point. you said yesterday you didn't get any paperwork from the fbi. wray said that you did submit paperwork. >> again, that would come through the white house personnel security office, which had not completed their investigation, not pass that information to the white house. >> but you acknowledge that you did receive paperwork. >> again, the white house, i think you need to be very clear about there's multiple groups here. the white house personnel security office, which is staffed per officials may have received information, but they had not completed their process and a recommendation to the white house for adjudication. >> did anyone of the white house personnel security office have any communication with anyone in the west wing about rob porter's clearance between the fbi submitted its reports and -- >> i'm not aware of any communication. i can't say definitely but i'm not aware of any communication. >> all right. so chief

>> after we get done with a case, it gets adjudicated for cases, that's what happens. we are calling balls and strikes. did they violate yes or no. if the answer is yes, substantiation holds even for small technical violations. then it goeses after the review, it goes over to the lawyers side of the army, t jag. they basically put the case together and brings it to the adjudicateor vice chief of staff in the army, and the vice chief of staff under advice of counsel holds the person accountable according to due pros stes and the facts in the case. >> i appreciate. we don't have time to hear from everybody. but i do feel it's deeply concerning you are generals in the service you are overseeing, and i do think it's civilian oversight perhaps would at least eliminate the appearance. >> we have a lot of oversight. the army is made up of soldiers. mass majority of our army is soldiers. and i believe having been commander an um inform times i can also look at the case and also understand. because again we are representing the army. i am the army inspector general. and i think

but they had not made a final recommendation for adjudication to the wlouhite house because t process was still ongoing. in the view of personnel security office, the fbi's july report required significant additional investigation todayer to field work before personnel security office could begin to evaluate the information forred a jude kagtadjudication. information was still coming to the personnel security office in february. >> so just to be clear, the july report, if not back to march, was there information contained in those reports about the allegations about rob porter? >> i wouldn't have access to that information. i wouldn't know the answer to that. >> i want to drill down on one important fact because you said this again that the investigation was ongoing. christopher wray said it was closed in january. so who is telling the truth here? >> both. as i said, the fbi portion was closed. the white house personnel security office who is the one that makes recommendation for adjudication had not made a recommendation to the white house about that. >> and you said yesterday you di

the white house personnel security office, who is the one that makes a recommendation for adjudication had not finished their process and, therefore, not made a recommendation to the white house. is there's multiple groups here. the white house personal security office, which is staffed by career officials would have -- may have received information but they had not completed their process. >> thus far, the shifting explanations that the white house has been making are simply to the press corps but now things have been stepped up a notch, harris, as you pointed out at the top trey gody the chairman of the house oversight and government reform committee sent this letter to the chief of staff, john kelly. well, that one is actually to the head of the fbi chris wray. he sent ago similar one to chief of staff john kelly. that's the one to kelly right there asking for, among other things, answers to policies, practices and procedures at the white house for interim security clearances whether porter's clearances, interim and final were consistent with those procedures. the date when the whit

ben: the russia issue was adjudicated during the 2016 election. hillary called trump the puppet of russia. we talked about russia. voters got a lot of that information and made a choice. kennedy: guy benson is so multi faceted and talented. we are going to see the panel a little later on the show. special counsel mueller's team revealed another indictment today. a dutch lawyer was charged with lying to investigators. he reportedly lied to the fbi to his relationship with gates and reportedly agreed to testify against his old pal man fo -- p. how does it fit in. >> this such a tepid charge. he forgot to remember something. there are far more serious lies going on thang this. but they do have him. he did agree to plead guilty. while he is pleading guilty, richard gates' lawyers are gore griergt a deal. bob mueller has the upper in and that negotiation. this young man, the dutch lawyer was the lawyer for gates and manafort when they were doing what they did from the ukraine which forms the basis for the money laundering charge against them. kennedy:

women like you have not gotten any adjudication or justice for your claims. this is what donald trump had to say about another issue. this was not sexual assault but, rather, domestic abuse, by one of the members of his staff, rob porter. he tweeted people's lives are being shattered and destroyed by mere allegations. some are true and some are false. some are old and some are new. there is no recovery for someone falsely accused. is there no such thing as due process. >> what does it mean for women in america to have such a president? >> i think we see women recoiling against him. it is clear he has no respect for women. i can attest to that personally. his defense of roy moore, his defense of rob porter, it is disgusting. i would love due process. that's what i called for in december. we are still waiting for that. let's get due process. >> you are running for the house district 88, won by barack obama in 2008 and 2012, barack obama and donald trump 2016. >> i am a product of the district. i grew up in an average middle class family. i feel really strongly

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they put the case together and brings it to the adjudicator. the vice chief of staff under advice of counsel is comfortable -- advice of the council holds the person accountable. rep. tsongas: we don't have to time to hear from everybody. i think it is deeply concerning that you are generals in the service you are overseeing. i think civilian oversight would eliminate the appearance -- lt. gen. quantock: we have a lot of civilian oversight. our army is made up of soldiers. i believe having been a commander a number of times, i can also look at the case and understand -- i am the army inspector general. spective,soldiers' per knowing that the person calling the shots has been a former i.g. themselves, from the time i was captain up to my last position, it is important that person is a soldier or marine. rep. tsongas: we can agree to disagree. >> just a statement first. as a of themselves, from the time i was we want ton, know that the process is intact. what i am hearing from the panel good,t the process is that it is accountable, and more respo