and we're back with dr william perry a former united states to same secretary perry and then there's the sanctions business despite congress specifically passing of the anti russian sanctions trub actually chose not to and. them but instead he unveiled a list of who is who in crime lynn and who is still in the russian business so i don't know how you see but we thought that maybe he was kind of making fun of congress there. and i'm not pleased with that list but i have a few read nor read the list but you read the statement and went with it it makes as if specific statement isn't there's nothing listen these people with there's nothing they've done nothing there's nothing the line about we intend to take notice that we have no plans to put sanctions on them it's very specific that this is. a list just in response of the request to congress made i don't agree with many things the trouble ministration has done but i think their action on that this was very wise where they explicitly stated that this is not a list intended to impugn these people. with the current congress which is prett

then we're back with dr william perry a former united states to fan secretary dr perry and then there's the sanctions business despite congress specifically passing the anti russian sanctions trub actually chose not to enact them but instead he unveiled a list of who is in kremlin and who is still in the russian business so i don't know how you see but we thought that maybe he was kind of making fun of congress there. i'm not pleased with that list but i have a few read nor i read the list but you read the statement with it it makes no sense to fix statement isn't there nothing listen these people there's nothing more they have done nothing than nothing the line about we intend to take notice that we have no plans to put sanctions on them it's very specific that this is. just in response at the request of congress made i don't agree with many things the trouble ministration has done but i think their action on that this was very wise where they explicitly stated that this is not a list intended to impugn these people. with the current congress which is pretty hostile towards russia whit

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dr william perry it's really great to have you on our program one more time thank you sir always good to be here lots to talk about dr perry so nato expansion to the east actually started during your tenure as defense secretary and you have sad that it was a mistake and it is probably the root cause of the current u.s. russia confrontation now nato officials insist a ring was and is the number one and russia all of us least sees it as a threat it's always been very open and honest about seeing it at the threat was nato getting closer to russia's borders do you think there could be a direct conflict is it on the cards i think it's very unlikely i think both of our countries recognize that could lead to very serious problems and so i think we will see restraint on both the united states and russia so that we don't need a new conflict the danger is not the door leaders will plan a conflict but the fact that our troops are so close together it might be an accident we went blunder into some kind of contact so that's the danger of the situation not the intent on the other side but sometimes

dr william perry it's really great to have you on our program one more time thank you sir always good to be here lots to talk about dr perry so nato expansion to the east actually started during your tenure as defense secretary and you have sad that it was a mistake and it is probably the root cause of the current u.s. russia confrontation no nato officials and so absorbing europe was and is the number. don't rush l.v. asli sees it as a threat it's always been very open and honest about saying it at the threat was nato getting closer to russia's borders do you think there could be a direct conflict is it on the cards i think it's very unlikely i think both of our countries recognize that could lead to very serious problems and so i think we will see restraint on both the united states and russia so that we don't even have conflict the danger is not the door leaders will plan a conflict but the fact that our troops are so close together it might be an accident we might blunder into some kind of a contact so that's the danger of the situation not that the intent on either side but somet

dr william perry it's really great to have you on our program one more time thank you sir always good to be here lots to talk about dr perry so nato expansion to the east actually started during your tenure as defense secretary and you have sad that it was a mistake and it is probably the root cause of the current u.s. russia confrontation now nato officials insist a ring was and is the number one and russia all of us least sees it as a threat it's always been very open and honest about seeing it at the threat was nato getting closer to russia's borders do you think there could be a direct conflict is it on the cards i think it's very unlikely i think both of our countries recognize that could lead to very serious problems and so i think we will see restraint on both the united states and russia so that we don't need a new conflict the danger is not the door leaders will plan a conflict but the fact that our troops are so close together it might be an accident we might blunder into some kind of contact so that's the danger of the situation not that the intend on either side but someti