what i find more vexing is not that the house intelligence ,ommittee, mr. nunez, mr. gowdy are making so much about this episode. not about thea concert they are stating which is protecting americans from abusive surveillance policies. if it was, we would be talking about reforming the fisa process, holding the government to a higher standard before it can obtain one of these warrants. of course, this is the very house intelligence committee that voted last year to reauthorize one of the other parts of fisa, with the republicans almost entirely endorsing that reauthorization. my concern is that if there is really a problem here, let's talk about the problem, as opposed to turn this into some huge partisan, political scandal that is distracting from the mother investigation, which is mr. gary himself suggested yesterday, should not be affected at all by what is in the nunes memo. comey goes on twitter and says that the release of this information, and trusthe words destroyed with the intelligence committee, damage the relationship with -- would you agree that those thi

nunez refused to answer question. at the end, he gave a written housese saying the white had not been involved with the actual drafting of the memo, but in terms of whether it was court needed with white house or question. that's the the reality is as this investigation has progressed, significantly the investigation by bob mueller. as more individuals have fled guilty or indicted, both in terms of the issue of collusion and objection, there is a sense of panic on the white house and as a result, we see a tactic we have often seen in criminal cases when the facts are .ncreasingly incriminating there's an effort to put the government on trial and that brings us to where we are today. we think this very ill serves the public and we hope it will stop, but nonetheless, the chairman has announced his intention to continue with other phases of this so-called investigation. he has publicly described this memo as phase one. in fact, it is face to. this is phase two. we hope these phases of distraction will come to an end and

nunez refused to answer the questions. at the end of the hearing, he gave a very lawyerly written housese that the white had not been involved in the actual drafting of the memo. it wasterms of whether correlated with the white house or they were consulted or strategized, the whole concept, he refused to answer those questions. that is a very important question for our committee. the reality is as this investigation has progressed, the investigation by individuals as more have either been in guided or pled guilty with connection to the investigation and evidence has mounted, both in terms of collusion and obstruction, there is a rising sense of panic within the white house and on the hill. as a result, we see a tactic we have often seen in criminal cases where when the facts are defendant,ng of the there is an effort to put the government on trial. that brings us to where we are --ay, where our committee republicans have endeavored to but the fbi on trial, the department of justice on trial, impeach and impugn the hard wor

republicans in congress, especially mr. nunez, and some of his allies in the intelligent committee and other republicans in the house are trying to do whatever they can to play defense for donald trump. i mean, the idea that this memo was about shining light on the fisa ro success, i mean, that's farcical. and donald trump made as much clear this morning when he tweeted out, oh, this shows, you know, what awful things are going on at the department of j justice and the fbi. what he said in the pool spread today, people should be ashamed of themselves. this is about discrediting bob mueller. devon nunez, donald trump, fellas like matt gates, the representative from florida, their goal is to discredit mueller. that's what they're trying to do. they're not going to stop there. this effort will continue weather rod rosenstein keeps his job throughout, we'll have to wait and see. >> jill, in normal times you land at -- state of the union, two or three states, maybe even four. that did not happen. we've got another shutdown loomi

i believe the chairman of the intelligence committee, mr. nunez, should be taken outside of that office. >> the white house says president trump did read the memo. and the president's fbi director christopher wray, says he may issue a rebuttal if the memo is release food former fbi director james comey tweeted outside this, saying american history shows in the long run weasel and his liars never hold the field as long as good people stand up. representative nancy pelosi accusing congressman nunez of altering the memo after the committee voted on it a spokesman for him says the changes are minor edits. >>> a bay area company is facing a lawsuit. >>> plus united airlines is making changes after a woman tried to bring her peacock on a flight to california. the motorcycle deput >>> authorities are searching for a man who rammed an alameda county sheriff's deputy with a stolen suv. he stopped it for speeding yesterday in heyward. investigators a the man threw the suv into reverse and slammed into the officer, dragging him about 20 feet. the deput

>> i think there are elements of what mr. nunez did that bringing them into the realm of obstruction of justice. i think there's a really broad range that we give members for their ability to speak freely. >> you're saying tonight that it's possible that congressman nunez's conduct could be part of the obstruction case? >> let me put it this way, i think that the chairman as helped the white house obstruct this case. whether that's part of a legal entanglement, that's a different story. >> this is part of my job, pushing everyone a little bit. when you say the white house obstructed this case, are you saying that as a legal terms of art of obstruction of justice. >> i this that mr. mueller is probably developing a case, what are we talking about when we talk about obstruction, there has to be an intent, in words and deeds, i think that an outsider looking at this would say that mr. mueller could develop a case like this. i mean pressuring mr. comey not to go after general flynn, firing director comey, trying to fire mueller t

what do you make of the claims that mr. nuÑez himself, the man who authored this memo, that he altered it and the copy the president has is different from the copy the other members have. -- have? i am sure that -- guest: i am sure chairman nuÑez is not an idiot. he knows that information could become public if people are saying this, there could be copies of this report. it is unlikely that is the case. i am not familiar with the other document, so i don't know if it has been altered. this transparency to release the memo will clear up any confusion or concerns people have about this issue. i am trying to explain -- brent: i am trying to explain to our viewers about what the president over -- was overheard saying at the state of the union address, saying yes, i will release the memo. he said that on tuesday evening, and he had not seen the memo at that point. doesn't it make then the motivation, the motive of the president, doesn't it bring it into question if he has not even see the contents he is willing to say yes, i

more coordination there was between the white house and mr. nunez the more alarming it is from a political perspective. think it just further underscores how the episode has not been about getting to the bottom but rather about trying to vindicate the president's own narrative. >> host: then has he worked with a close group of people and does he have to work with other republicans? >> the question is how will he get the memo through a majority vote under section 11 she to move it down the chain. the report is that he wrote it or the staffers wrote it with folks mr. gaudi's office what would of it had taken to get that majority vote to get out of committee. in this case there's enough pressure from the white house and senior republicans. even speaker ryan jumped in and suggested -- i think there is enough of a groundswell. the question is not why did the republicans move heaven and earth to release the memo. it's wife telling the full story is the goal the same process wasn't followed the democratic response or the fisa application which were t

rather than relying on the representations of mr. nunez them saying it's all the, let's get a public let the public review them. the way they are structured there is an underlying affidavit either an fbi agent or doj attorney that lays out the case. as executed by a deputy attorney general or higher saying look judge, we need access to this because the subject is either an agent of a foreign power or as a terrorist, blow the applicable and let's see what the case was in this case, they relied upon this fusion gps steel member memo or dossier. we know that he has sworn that that is true. but if there's more what is it. when they bring these applications they had an of of obligation to update and inform the court each judge to correct or perfect the record so what did they submit? let's see what it is. >> host: our guest is with us for about 45 minutes. you can ask what it does. our guests is the director of investigation and research a judicial watch. >> guest: were watchdog group that promote transparency, integrity and accountabilit

trump has to russia, and the games mr. nunez is playing, then they are pretty blind. host: congressman? rep. bacon: there is still doubt if the russians were involved in our elections, trying to create divide, i do not think that there is evidence of criminal collusion, but that is why we have an investigation and we will see what the robert mueller investigation puts out. this memo, again, i think also the question, when you use a political document paid for by political opponents to start a wiretap against a political opponent, we have a problem. i think it deserves vetting and transparency, and there is another side of the story, we welcome hearing that as well. as a democracy, looking at both sides is a healthy thing. vis in fort lauderdale, florida. go ahead. caller: good morning. i would like to ask the representative, he mentioned transparency and the fact he wants everything to be in the open. now, the president yesterday had a, i guess some type of a rally called, all -- he democratic people in congress "treasonous." i've always respected the republican party

you have not heard any suggestions to that effect from mr. nunez or mr. gowdy or other republicans on the house intelligence committee. i think that is a rather telling omission on their part. host: as far as best practices, it is reforms would take place, should there be a lawyer to represent the people of the united states? guest: it's a great question, there has been discussion in the fisa court's of including a special advocate who would appear in these cases to represent, if not the interest of the people, then at least the interest of the target. that is a worthwhile conversation. in the fisa context, it may make sense. the usa freedom act, the fisa reform legislation takes a half step in that direction, allows for the participation of a friend of the court, in at least some of the more complicated fisa cases. but again, let's have a conference -- conversation about search warrants as opposed to, oh my god, there is gambling going on in this establishment. this is how or two usually work. the fact that it worked in this context does not a scandal ma

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nunez, trey gowdy announced that was he was getting out of dodge, he was retiring from congress. is there a relationship there, i don't know, but i find it quite curious. devin nunez, and there can be no more reliable donald trump ally than he. surely must know that this was a face plant of the most dramatic kind. there really is nothing there. if they're going to impugn christopher steel's integrity, then devin nunez should read hid own memo, because in there it says in two places that christopher steel had been a very reliable informant for the fbi over the years. and of course, as we know, the original investigation wasn't even based on what -- excuse me on what christopher steel said, but what they had heard from popadopoulos, so politically, it's a nonstarter, but what you have to understand, ari, as you play the fox clip, this was aimed at the fox audience, and if it doesn't even serve the purpose of inflaming the fox audience to denounce rod rosenstein and bob mueller, that's defying the who -- >> you can run over to the party where you think you will be greeted most warml

this is bringing discredit on, i think, on mr. nunez, on our committee. >> so adam schiff right there talking to an nbc reporter in philadelphia after an event. he stayed words that were omitted in the memo that went from the house to the white house, that "significant" was taken out when talking about significant omissions. he said there's a difference between just regular omissions and the word "significant omissions." he said this investigation into the fbi is a violation of the pact between the fbi, intelligence community and the intel community a pact they won't reveal sources and methods just for political gain. he also said he does believe that devin nunes should step aside. i got a number of folks here with me. we have pete williams, betsy wood destructive and kelly o'donnell. pete let's go back to you. devin nunes or adam schiff obviously not happy about this memo being released. he's calling it a violation of the pact. does the fbi see it that way? >> your question to me originally i was going to answer when this intervi

nuÑez will be known as a great leader in history. i thought to myself mr. trump, you will be as well. it's like rats and cockroaches that keep running and they have so much invested and there's one other thing that harry truman said -- if you go into the government like the clintons and you leave richer than you went in, you are correct. thanks for listening to it you are a crook -- you are a crook. thank you for listening. host: pronounce this for me. caller: marcio from angier. host: we got the name and city wrong. we will do it right this time. caller: i feel like this country is indeed do do. wherein hatfield and mccoy territory. the matter what either side is going to say, it's all a political thing and who will be the judge of us? there's nobody who is not partisan, right? we've got to open this legislation and these governing bodies up to more political parties immediately. we've got to get greens and libertarians, socialists, because just these two, back and forth, and everything that sides as is a lie and that -- and everything the other side says

trump has to russia, and the games mr. nunez is playing, then they are pretty blind. host: congressman? rep. bacon: there is still doubt if the russians were involved in our elections, trying to create divide, i do not think that there is evidence of criminal collusion, but that is why we have an investigation and we will see what the robert mueller investigation puts out. this memo, again, i think also the question, when you use a political document paid for by political opponents to start a wiretap against a political opponent, we have a problem. i think it deserves vetting and transparency, and there is another side of the story, we welcome hearing that as well. as a democracy, looking at both sides is a healthy thing. vis in fort lauderdale, florida. go ahead. caller: good morning. i would like to ask the representative, he mentioned transparency and the fact he wants everything to be in the open. now, the president yesterday had a, i guess some type of a rally called, all -- he democratic people in congress "treasonous." i've always respected the republican party

i think it really underscores just how partisan mr. nunez has been. he has abused the office of the chairmanship of h and i don't say that light lie. ainsley: he abusing the chairmanship? all he is doing is releasing information to you the public, the taxpayers out there, expose the truth what is happening at doj behind closed doors. steve: louie gohmert has a great idea how he can put this to rest. later today he will release a letter to the appropriate committee, he will say, release the transcripts from the fisa court hearings. in other words, the presentation made by the fbi and department of justice. let's hear what cards they laid on the table to get this fisa warrant. so that is what louie gohmert says. ainsley: what reasons they had to buy. brian: they keep emphasizing, to, i guess, former fbi officials and intelligence officials and people like adam schiff, ranking members on the democratic side, they keep saying the dossier played a small role, not a big role getting these five renewals of the fisa warrant to spy on carter page. however, if

here is mr. nunez on the channel last night. >> the factses are not bearing out to what the democrats wanted it to be because we have found collusion. we found collusion between the democrats, specifically the clinton campaign, and the democratic national committee and the russians. however it doesn't seem to be like that, nobody is interested in that collusion. we also found felony leaks. nobody seems to be interested in getting to the bottom of the felony leaks. so it is part of what house intelligence committee led by republicans are trying to get to bottom of despite we're up against a lot of odds. we're not getting help from the democrats in the house and we're also not getting any help from the mainstream media. brian: by the way, what is going on with the senate? we snow senator graham and senator grassley provided information that allowed us to go to the national archives to find out about different communications between susan rice and the president and memos that she put out on the day

they see no correlation between david nuÑez and him being a former campaign worker for mr. trump. they see no partiality that he may have with distorting information. the way that they accuse supporters of hillary clinton. nobody ever mentions that he is a former campaign worker. now he sits in a position of where he can redirect and question the integrity of the people at the fbi. i question the motives of the fbi with dr. king and other issues. no one has made that particular problem with david nuÑez. host: now you have. i want to give michael a chance to respond to that. think that your callers know this because they watch the show a lot. , it isital, the congress an inherently political institution. we try, in different forms and different committees, to remove or otherwise reduce the politics. at the end of the day, there are two parties, and weber has the majority is going to be the chairman of a committee. person is going to have a political affiliation. that member, in this case david nuÑez, is a legitimate voice on national security issues. he speaks to this. he is also

[applause] >> i do not know, mr. chairman. i think they like you. >> thank you. thank you for the warm welcome. you have been a longtime friend of the conservative movement. you're getting another award from us for your congressional votes but i think what people know about you recently is your courage in standing up to what looks to be a troublesome set of facts. thank you very much. >> thank you. [applause] days it seems like news is breaking all the time and i think it is important for all of our cpac attendees to know there is news breaking right now with the release of this memo. our attendees are going to hear from you first. what do they need to know about what is going on and about the release of this memo? >> it just posted. the website probably crashed so probably nobody can get it right now. russian bots caused the crash. [laughter] this out.ed this has been held up for two weeks. the fbi and doj had told the democrats what was wrong with their memo or their response to our memo. they waited for two weeks before they actually did the redaction that was

the memo written by the republican house intelligence committee chairman devin nunez outlines alleged surveillance abuses by investigators looking into ties between russia and the trump campaign republicans claim the document shows anti trump bias at the f.b.i. but the agency says it's inaccurate. democrats say trump's insistence on publishing the memos has a place and attempt to derail a wide to probe into his dealings with russia. we know obviously the department justice and the f.b.i. feel that this is a extraordinary reckless step to take because the information hasn't been better than house speaker poll ryan says republicans are right to push for the memos release there may have been milf eason's at the f.b.i. by certain individuals and so what we want is all of this information to come out so that transparency can reign supreme and accountability can occur will be the through f.e.i. director christopher ray appears willing to stand up to the president who hand-picked him for the job just months after firing his predecessor. trump himself has told associates the memo vindicates h

host: i would like you all to know also that we will do something very special for you, mr. chairman. acufld like to bring our vice chairman, millie, please come out. we have a special presentation for you, chairman nunez. >> boy, that was a great conversation. it was very candid, chairman. rep. devin nunes: i like to be that way. >> so i have heard. we are pleased to have our distant wished closing speaker. we are really honored to bestow americanthe conservative union defender of freedom award. [cheers and applause] rep. nunes: very kind of you. rep. nunes: very kind. >> chairman, unlike other awards given at cpac, this one is only given one an individual has courage,certed carriag standing up for truth and freedom under intense duress. when we considered awardees for this honor, one of the questions that we ask is, what would ronald reagan have done or said? and a user, you sir, and your unwavering valor, and often lonely pursuit of truth fo on behalf of the american people, have stood out among your colleagues. we salute you, we thank you and your dress up old humility a

memo released on friday in the memo that mr. schiff contemplates releasing, which could be sometime this week. that is at least what he is expecting and hoping. neil: thank you very much. i want to read on this from fbi assistant director bill gavin. the market is that a bit of a pre-fall now about 421. you are not to blame for that. just keeping people apprised of that. i'm going to ask you is strange question that the markets could be rattled by this if it means the back-and-forth memo and everything being the outcome of the whole investigation into russian potential ties to the trump campaign in who is wrapped up in what could get dragged out and in other words become a much longer sort of a soap opera that's earlier the case. what are your thoughts? >> there is a nexus with what is going on with the memo's back-and-forth with republican and democratic memos to the white house. you are right, could impact upon the market to be the last one to speculate on that. the biggest problem i see right now is the fact that the republic

we take it up with mr. ed rollins >>> and our top story. the effort to expose corruption in the obama era fbi and justice department. devin nunez is seeking transcript to find out what the fbi said in order to get a surveillance warrant to spy on former trump aide carter page. the house intel mem ro released last friday showed that the discredited trump dossier was used to sur cure the surveillance warrant for page and the government omitted key information about its political funding by the dnc and clinton campaign. tonight we're waiting for the democratic release of the memo rebutting the allegations. if white house releasing a statement saying that the president trump met with the fbi director as well as the white house counsel's office to get their input on the democratic memo, adding, the president is weighing his options and will respond soon. the next guest say the evidence is in. obama leaders of the fbi and doj willfully abused their power in order to spy on political opponents. joining me now, congressman andy biggs. congressman b