you were the first harvard president without a harvard degree. you went to the university of pennsylvania after graduating from bryn mawr with a history degree, then you became a history professor. drew: i was a student activist in college, very involved in politics, civil rights issues, vietnam war protests, and cared a lot about changing the world and having an impact on the world. when i graduated from college i worked in the department of housing and urban development, and i hoped in an idealistic way to move into maybe urban planning or some area that would enable me to carry on my concerns about public service and changing the world. but i so missed intellectual life and ideas and the kind of debate that is at the heart of a university, so i applied to graduate school and went back and got a phd at penn, which eventually led me to a faculty position at penn that i held for 25 years. emily: you wrote six books. tell me about that. drew: i became a historian of the american south. i began to explore questions, not all that distant from questi

we very pleased to be harvard remain harvard. we want to support the needs of but we don't s, think that these separate rganizations are the way to accomplish what needs to be done. ♪ emily: what is harvard doing differently to train the worker tomorrow. doyou think harvard needs to anything different to arm workers with a skill to succeed technology.n >> there has been changes with education.oached we find our curriculum much more oriented and our students more eager for a hand-on experience. to be many more internships or public service tied into es curricul offerings, going and thinking are intertwined more closely. one of things i've been following is harvard's crackdown single sex clubs. and harvard has had a tradition all-male clubs and more recently all-female clubs sprung up u i'm curious how your position evolved over your at harvard and led you to the decision that this needed to big way? a >> the issues surrounding final into my consciousness lmost as soon as i arrived at harvard when i became dean. debated about the

like they did at harvard because harvard used to have 230 employees who worked for the harvard management company. carol: up next, a popular wage hits the nanny state, sweden. jason: this is bloomberg businessweek. ♪ jason: welcome back to bloomberg businessweek. i'm jason kelly. carol: i'm carol massar. you can also listen to us on the radio. on sirius xm channel 119 and am 1130 in new york, fm in 960 washington, d.c., and in the bay area. a.m. jason: and in asia on the bloomberg radio plus app. in the economics section, we go to sweden where highs taxation led to surpluses. carol: but they are under pressure because of welfare needs from hundreds and thousands of refugees coming into sweden. jason: more from us. >> they are facing a lot of challenges because they have taken in so many refugees relative to their population, over 600,000 for a population of 10 million people. at the same time, there are other factors. people are living longer and the birth rate is very high. and so, this social network that we all know about, right? everybody thinks about sweden and these amazing servic

jeannie is a professor at harvard law school and joins us from harvard. can you walk us through this lawsuit? can you explain what is at stake? jeannie: the lawsuit takes place under a law called title vi. it involves a federal law that prohibits discrimination in activities and programs that receive federal funding. harvard university does receive federal funding as do many colleges and universities in the country. most of them. it is important that those colleges and universities avoid discriminating on the basis of race. sola done: --soledad: now the question that's been asked is in fact are asians disadvantaged when it comes to getting into harvard university. is the simple answer to that "y. katherine: -- i think the answer is yes they are. but i don't think that it's a very simple answer. i thinatnt of taking intcoe's backgrounds. and that could be all kinds of different backgrounds whether it's racial, ethnic, class or the opportunities that one has had, the hardships that one has had to overcome. soledad: many colleges won't talk about quotas but

a lot of people who have done well went to harvard. not everyone is a billionaire but there were a lot of people over the years. what is interesting is there going to go to the people, good men and women who gave a really got -- really large gift. less alumni are given to the universities. we have a statistic in the story. of all the universities that giftsast year, one dozen made up a third of all of the gifts. put that into perspective. are people given less to their alma mater? >> maybe they don't think they needed. they didn't think there are other organizations in the world that need their help or than a wealthy university. >> this was a criticism leveled by malcolm gladwell. essentially, you could help the poor, feed the poor and yet, you are giving to a superrich university. >> absolutely. he had the same criticism when stanford got a make a gift of that size. there was a lawyer that used to give big amounts of money and then became disenchanted by the knot of money that has been paid to the guys to manage the endowment at harva

harvard has the edge. statistic that of all the gifts that came in last year, one dozen gifts made up a third of all the gifts. jason: wow. jason: put that into perspective. jason: why are people giving less to their alma mater? janet: good question. maybe they think they don't need it. they say other organizations that need their help more than a wealthy university. that jason: that was the criticism leveled by none other than malcolm gladwell at john paulson's gift, specifically. essentially, you can help the poor and feed the poor, yet you are giving to a superrich university. janet: absolutely. and he had the same criticism when stanford got to make a gift. carol: you do cite one person who used to give big amounts of money and kind of became disenchanted by the amount of money being paid to the folks to manage. that was a huge issue more than a decade ago. harvard has to disclose how much it pays the highly compensated, the people making the most money, and i think people found that distasteful that t

sean has a harvard extension degree, a b.a., and a masters of divinity from harvard. justin has magna cum laude from harvard in economics. brian: this is in newfoundland, pennsylvania. what is the church called? tom: it is called sanctuary church. rod of iron ministries is kind of a subtitle. brian: we go back to the picture of sean from earlier, is that the rod in his hand? tom: yes, that is an ar-15 semiautomatic rifle. brian: gold. tom: yes, gold-plated, and it works. some of the controversy -- the church, in 2012, they have the split and it takes him a little while to figure out -- he has a fracturing with his family. sean is an interesting guy. after he got out of harvard with his masters degree, he was practicing buddhism for about eight to 10 years. still on good terms with the family, but while the family is involved in the unification church, he is pursuing buddhism. the dalai lama invited him to spend some time in india. he comes back to the church shortly before reverend moon's death, about two years before. he got involved in the church, and when reverend

plaintiffs students for fair admissions alleging that harvard does intentionally discriminate against asian americans by limiting their admissions now why would harvard do that how could this not be racial discrimination. that's exactly correct you know they they're playing a very fine game in there and their and their lives are being exposed in the sense that well you know we don't consider races you know the primary issue but i think they're concerned i mean that also brings in the into play the issue of the legacies you know in the sense that there are certain people that are more equal than others and they generally tend to be you know white americans who are legacies quote unquote and parents grandparents have gone to the same university for generations and then so there are progeny sort of get you know bump right to the front even if they're not the brightest sometimes or not the most motivated and that's also unfair but they tend to be a defacto de joria analysis they tend to be mainly white the ones who are beneficial is the legacy. movement but in terms of the asian american

to be accepted into harvard. we were lucky they provided financial aid. we spent all of our summers working as computer programmers to pay for college. graduating in 1994 at the dawn of the internet was such a wonderful time to be in tech and already fully knowledgeable. this was a time when companies were getting started. so much of our career got shaved by - -shaped by being at the right place at the right time. emily: you started working at microsoft, and he started working at oracle. boom was at the dotcom hitting a fever pitch. >> within two years of graduation, i left oracle and joined a startup that was fairly didn't. meanwhile, he joined the microsoft browser team, one of the most exciting jobs in the country. emily: didn't you try to convince microsoft to do search, and they didn't? searchou went to the top engines at the time, it was big advertising. we tried to convince microsoft the biggest way to monetize search was to have text ads that were keyword based. that is the same it is today. it wasn't som

for the past 11 years, i have taught hundreds of students, primarily at harvard law school. i teach that the constitution's separation of powers protects individual liberty. and i remain grateful to the dean who hired me, justice elena kagan. as a judge, i.e. higher for law clerks each year. i look for the best. my law clerks from diverse backgrounds. i am proud that a majority of my law clerks have been women. i am part of the vibrant catholic community in the d.c. area. the members of that community disagree about things but we are united by a commitment to serve. father john and slayer is here, in 40 years ago i was an altar boy for father john. these days i help him serve meals to the homeless at catholic charities. i have two spirited counters, margaret and liza. margaret loves sports, and she loves to read. liza loves sports, and she loves to talk. [laughter] [laughter] tries for the past seven years, i have coached my daughter's basketball teams. the girls on the team team call me coach k. i am proud of our blessed sacrament team that just won the city championship. [

he enrolled at the kennedy school of government at harvard. look, we have a terrible photo of donald heathfield at his harvard graduation from the kennedy school in the year 2000. the reason that we have this not great photo, this grainy photo taken from very far away in the year of 2000 is because this photo was taken by the fbi. because the fbi apparently knew as soon as donald heathfield and his purportedly canadian family got to the united states, the fbi apparently knew that they weren't canadians at all, they were in fact russian spies living under deep cover. donald heathfield and tracy leanne foley had been living for two decades in canada and then in europe before they ever set foot in the united states to start spying for russia here. we now know that the fbi was on to them as spies as soon as they got here. this is the fbi photo of donald heathfield at his harvard graduation in 2000. there were photos of tracy leanne foley at that graduation as well. ultimately a decade later, in 2010, when a federal indictment was unsealed we would

you went to harvard. at harvard, you have a classmate down the hall named bill gates. introduced us who said you guys are both weird, energetic guys. you should meet. so we did. the time we met was the time he was starting microsoft, plus or minus a month. that clearly was more than this is going to be another random guy. that guy is starting his own company. it is his second company. he had done one in high school. he was clearly a special guy. david: you graduated magna cum laude and decided to go to procter & gamble? steve: i did. david: proctor and gamble gets a lot of talented people in their training programs. did anyone famous work alongside you? steve: a number of people did. scott cook was there. ge. immelt, who ran he and i worked together. the dynamic drivers of brownie mix sales. he was around. meg whitman came after i left. it was a great place. david: you go to stanford and are going to get your nba. you decide to drop out and work at a startup in seattle call microsoft -- called microsoft. what did your father say about that? steve: he was apoplectic in

[ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: harvard! >> yeah! >> jimmy: harvard graduate! >> yeah! >> jimmy: i mean, that's what i'm talking about. how -- what was that -- what is it? i n't understand. you went to a -- >> it was a business of entertainment, media, and sports progr that ll cool j turned me on to. and dwayne "the rock" johnson on turned mo it. and it was really cool. you do all these case studies atout different businesses. and there were sometes there. but then there's some entertainment, but mostly st business people. but it was great to see, because as an athlete you're kind of isolated in a lot of ways. >> jimmy: yeah. >> but to be there with a lot of people in business and feel like, "you know what, yeah. sscan be comfortable and i belong in the busiorld." and for me i've been out of it a while and i've done things in business befe. a lot of the other athletes there from lindsey vonn to chris bosh. the soer player kaká which, you know, i know -- what? kaká? >> jimmy: yeah. [ laughter ] i mean, sorry, i have a brain of a 12-year-o t boy. >> i d. >> jimmy: yeah,

we are both harvard computer science majors. we are the only set of twins to sell companies to microsoft. a lot of the things we have done are similar. i think i am more of a stress case. my brother is more easy-going comparatively. emily: you were born in tehran. you were six years old when the iran-iraq war broke out. what was living through that like? >> it was horrific. my childhood, i remember feeling scared most of the time. either scared of my neighborhood being bombed, which is certainly was, and i also remember always being worried about something would happen to my parents. that i would come home from school and it would not have my parents there anymore. during the period bombardment when we would spend overnights in the basement holding our ears, because our neighborhood was actually being bombed. rough.as pretty i will say though, having gotten out of that, it is certainly something that makes me feel much stronger, because i feel anything. take on if you can survive that, it makes day-to-day problems today seem muc

attended phillips academy in andover, massachusetts, went on to harvard college and harvard law school. he served as dean of the south carolina state law school before being selected in 1950 as the president of south carolina state college by then governor strom thurmond. like other african-american presidents of black segregated public institutions, turner occupied a precarious position. he served at the pleasure of the political regime committed to maintenance of white supremacy. annually, had to beg an all white segregationist legislature for funding. had to rest support from lawmakers that openly and unapologetically favored white schools over black schools. had to contend with influential arbitors of white public opinion that maintained race relations were harmonious, and that blacks ought to be satisfied with what they had received. the negro, the times newspaper in 1955 has much for which to thank the white race. he has been given through public monies a splendid educational establishment in this state. i mean, that's what the president of south carolina state college had to con

you went to harvard. at harvard, you have a classmate down the hall named bill gates. steve: it was interesting, because the guy who introduced us said you guys are both weird, energetic guys. you should meet. so we did. the time we met was just about the time he was starting microsoft, plus or minus a month. that clearly was more than this is going to be another random guy. a guy starting his own company. it was his second company. he had done one in high school. he was clearly a special guy. i got to know him pretty well. david: you graduated magna cum laude and decided to go to procter & gamble? steve: i did. proctor and gamble. david: proctor and gamble gets a lot of talented people in their young training programs. did anyone famous work alongside you? steve: funny you should mention that. a number of people did. when i was there, scott cook was there. jeff immelt, who ran ge. he and i worked together on the blueberry muffins and snack cake mix. we were the dynamic drivers of brownie mix sales. he was around. meg whitman came right after i left. it really was a gr

significant publicity because it's harvard, and also just to note harvard strongly deniesns these allegat >> woodruff: nick schifrin, marcia coyle, we thank you both. >> pleasure,udy. thank yo. >> woodruff: two weeks ago, we first introduced you to sofi, a three-year-old girl who made the journey with her grandmother through mexico, fleeing violence, to seek asylum here in the united states. our newshour team first met them at a shelter in juarez, beforero they ced the u.s. border. >> nawaz: her family, angelica says, was targeted by mexin cartels, already killing her husband son, daughter-in-law, and three grandchildren. geaying out of mexico, she ss, is a matter of life or death. >> ( translated ): i'm worried for her. my granddaughter's lived through many very ugly things. >> nawaz: children are separatem heir parents or guardians. are you worried about that? makesranslated ): yes, afraid that they will separate me from my granddaughter. and i pray that they won't separate me from her. >> woodruff: they were in ct parated, despite making a legal entry, an asylum claim, and carrying gua

david: you went to harvard. and when you were at harvard, you have a classmate down the hall named bill gates. steve: it was interesting, because the guy who introduced us says, you are both weird, energetic guys. you should meet. so we did. and the time we met was just about the time he was starting microsoft, plus or minus a month i want to say. and that clearly was more than this is going to be another random guy. i mean, the guy is starting his own company. it was his second company. he had done one in high school. he was clearly a special guy. and i got to know him pretty well. david: you graduated magna cum laude and decided to go to procter & gamble? steve: i did. proctor and gamble. david: now, very often, procter & gamble gets a lot of talented people in their young training programs. did anybody famous work alongside you? steve: funny you should mention that. a number of people did. when i was there, scott cook was there. tuit.arted into it -- in jeff immelt, who ran ge. he and i worked together on the

a harvard sorority announced they are gender neutral. kappa alpha theta, if that is the real name, will be changing its name, delinking from its national chapter. harvard penalizes its members by withholding student leadership positions. still charging them 60 grand a year. it's hard to care about a harvard sorority. talk about a rough life. it's a slow news day. clubs, by nature, are clubby. people join based on shared traits. hobbies and so on. if you like stamps, you join a stamp club. if you like motorcycles, you join the hells angels. in high school, i couldn't join the boys chorus because i couldn't sing. i couldn't join the girls chorus because i went to an all boys school. i could only sing in the shower. i managed. the irony of forcing inclusivity on clubs is that inevitably clubs go away. it is not worth the trouble. society is now in a gender panic where it is scandalous to say boys and girls are different. i've yet to run into a single male who likes maroon 5. ♪ i think you see my point. social circles will likely fold to p

>> harvard, yale, georgetown professor, as credentials are impeccable. i find it interesting, he actually argued before the supreme court but 11 supreme court decisions endorsed his views, which is a pretty remarkable rate. and now we have 300 cases. when we go back to the one case that keeps coming up, it's a fact that on obamacare he was willing to thread the needle and allowed to be viewed as a tax even though it was sold to the american people very differently and that would allow the constitutionality of it. >> the great thing is he doesn't forget who the sovereign is. and >> sean: explain what that means. >> he wants the market people to be able to rule themselves rather than be ruled by the court, and that's a result. he's trying to decide cases on a narrow ground is to leave more space for democratic choice which is what we want in a judge. >> sean: i agree. that's so interesting because the president was very clear, more than any other presidential candidate in our history. he kept his promise about jerusalem, about taxes, about the iranian deal

for the past 11 years, i have taught hundreds of students, primarily at harvard law school. i teach that the constitution's separation of powers protects individual liberty, and i remain grateful to the dean who hired me, justice elena kagan. as a judge, i hire four law clerks each year. i look for the best. my law clerks come from diverse backgrounds and points of view. i am proud that a majority of my law clerks have been women. i am part of the vibrant catholic community in the d.c. area. the members of that community disagree about many things, but we are united by a commitment to serve. father john enzler is here. forty years ago, i was an altar boy for father john. these days, i help him serve meals to the homeless at catholic charities. i have two spirited daughters, margaret and liza. margaret loves sports, and she loves to read. liza loves sports, and she loves to talk. i have tried to create bonds with my daughters like my dad created with me. for the past seven years, i have coached my daughters' basketball teams. the girls on the team call me coach k. i am proud

a graduate of yale college and your law school, judge kavanaugh currently teaches at harvard, yale, and georgetown. throughout legal circles, he is considered a judges judge, a true thought leader among his peers. with a brilliant jurist at a clear and effective writing style, universally regarded as one of the finest and sharpest legal minds of our time. gorsuch, hest as excelled as a clerk for justice kennedy. [applause] >> judge kavanaugh has devoted his life to public service. for the last four years, he is served as a judge on the gc circuit court of appeals with great distinction authoring over 300 opinions which have been widely admired for the scale insight and rigorous adherence to the law. among those kids are more than a dozen that the supreme court has adopted as the law of the land. renowned as a judge, she is active in his community. basketball, serves males to needy families, and having learned from his mom who is a schoolteacher inducing, tutors children at local elementary schools. there is no one in america more qualified for this position and i one more deserving fear

harvard denies the accusation. the university and 16 other highly ranked colleges argue that race should not be excluded from the admissions process because it's important to have a diverse student body. jonathan hunt has this. hello, jonathan. >> hey, shep. the universities argue this is a first amendment issue. their admissions decisions are protects because they are "essentially educational judgments." they say the universities have to be allowed to exercise their judgment and use their expertise on how to set criteria for student admissions and how to encourage the kind of diversity that they believe will best enhance their institution and help students to have a rounded experience. now in the brief filed by all of the ivy league colleges along with others including george washington, johns hopkins and stanford, the schools write it would be an extraordinairy infringement to decree that universities of higher education cannot consider race at all in seeking to obtain that diversity. what this boils down to, she

former federal prosecutor renato mariotti is here, and so is harvard law professor and author of "the case against impeaching trump," the one and only alan dershowitz. thank you on a friday night. i appreciate you being here. mariotti, you are bringing the prosecution in this case. when you look at the tapes, they are damning for the president because? >> because he's talking to a suspected criminal about matters under which he is under federal investigation for. it's never a good thing when your client is talking to somebody who is under investigation, particularly when it's about the subject matter that the government's investigating. you can spin it all you want, and we've heard more reporting. cnn has reported there's other tapes and there's a lot of discussion about what's actually on these tapes. but it's never a good thing. >> fruit of the poisonous tree aside as to a potential ethical violation by one's counsel in making such tapes, it was his lawyer, alan dershowitz. he was talking to him.

one of the professors at harvard i had written a paper on bipolar disease. out of the blue i got appointed by jimmy carter national institutes of health. the second i heard about it i went right to his office, i said jerry, i hear you are going to washington. he said yes. i said i also hear that if you go to washington without a right-hand man they are going to eat you alive. he said where did you hear that? i said i made it up but i really think you need somebody. he said okay. you got the job. i came to washington and jerry, my boss, and my professor was the only person i knew in d.c. for a radius of 200 miles. but i thought once i'm in washington, isn't that where they do politics? one thing will lead to another. i had been a reader of the new republic, a liberal magazine, very well-written, interesting. i thought maybe i could do this. and then one day they ran a classified ad. the new republic seeks a managing editor apply here. we were overwhelmed with the response and most of them were lawyers. and wanting to get out of law. there was this one psychia

.: in general in the circuit but also because he's a teacher, he teaches ibm and harvard, harvard educated guy. he is a textual list. constitutionalist. it boils down to the actual text constitution and the text of statutes as written are the most important piece of evidence of judgment rule on not what they would like it to be. not with their sense of justice would inform them to a farm but actually what the law says. in this case what the constitution says. that is who he is. that means he has a strong sense of separation of powers that each branch has its own government. power grabs from one branch to the other area of legislative over executive, executive over legislative. he has a keene i watching for that. however you look at it, not -- should not be the job of the court to take away legislative power from the legislative ranch. view believedn my happened when the roe versus wade ruling occurred. host: let me get your reaction publicrrent snapshot of opinion on the issue of abortion. a quinnipiac poll from last week ad they great that there's small gender gap is american voters agree