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>> yes, i talked to jim jordan. >> okay. >> yes. >> you talked to jim jordan. can you tell me more about the substance of the conversations and jim jordan then as this assistant coach and the big-brother figure, did -- what did jim jordan say to you as far as proper steps to stop it? >> yeah. these conversations were not individual conversations. they were conversations with a group of athletes who were complaining on a regular basis not only about dr. strauss but the conditions within the hall that forced us to take showers with not only dr. strauss but other university faculty members and professors who had access to on our shower facility that led to lewd acts, masturbation, excessive soaping of the groin area. and dr. strauss took a lot of showers and soaped himself a lot. when you look at the definition of sexual abuse and sexual assault and jim jordan went on record saying he knew about the facilities, he took showers with us. he saw dr. strauss and others perform these acts in front of us. it was a huge issue with -- >> mike? >> yes? >> i can't begin to
>> yes, i talked to jim jordan. >> okay. >> yes. >> you talked to jim jordan. can you tell me more about the substance of the conversations and jim jordan then as this assistant coach and the big-brother figure, did -- what did jim jordan say to you as far as proper steps to stop it? >> yeah. these conversations were not individual conversations. they were conversations with a group of athletes who were complaining on a regular basis not only about dr. strauss but...
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oversight work the jim jordan is doing. jim jordan was not after the department of fbi he would not be dealing with these allegations. they are totally false and i'm confident that to my core. how is jim jordan supposed to prove that he didn't know something 30 years ago as a 21-year-old assistant coach. we have to confront it for what it is. absolutely. it's a smear of the worst kind and also when we talked about the proximity to the cause it was only a matter of a day or two from his announcement that he was going to run for speaker of the house that the smear campaign began. >> the timing is very suspect. to me what is the most suspicious is right after jim jordan brought to the floor the question of the department of justice's complete delay in turning over documents it's only days after that when they elevate the contentiousness of that issue. i think they are people who have loose affiliation with a deep state out to get jim jordan and this is the way they are manifesting their hatred for a man who is doing everything
oversight work the jim jordan is doing. jim jordan was not after the department of fbi he would not be dealing with these allegations. they are totally false and i'm confident that to my core. how is jim jordan supposed to prove that he didn't know something 30 years ago as a 21-year-old assistant coach. we have to confront it for what it is. absolutely. it's a smear of the worst kind and also when we talked about the proximity to the cause it was only a matter of a day or two from his...
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i told jim this and indicated that this wasn't about attacking jim jordan. this was about telling the truth about what happened to not just me but more than a thousand athletes in 15 sports. there's 15 different sports and athletes and the word throughout the department -- and i've confirmed it over the last several months -- was that this -- doc was serial abuser. >> what did congressman jordan say to you when you told him you were coming forward? >> to be fair, when you have a conversation -- and i've had multiple conversations with victims and you're talking about sexual abuse, it's shocking to some extent so his reaction was i don't want to get involved. i didn't argue at the time because it's something that you have to come to grips with. it took me a while to really understand and look at the definitions and understand completely what was happening was sexual assault. we call it groping, fondling, it was absolutely wrong everyone knew he was doing this. he did this to wrestlers from other schools. there was multiple complaints from coaches across the b
i told jim this and indicated that this wasn't about attacking jim jordan. this was about telling the truth about what happened to not just me but more than a thousand athletes in 15 sports. there's 15 different sports and athletes and the word throughout the department -- and i've confirmed it over the last several months -- was that this -- doc was serial abuser. >> what did congressman jordan say to you when you told him you were coming forward? >> to be fair, when you have a...
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advantage of what jim jordan's position was, and look at who was copied on them they were sent to jim jordan, one of the emails i looked at was into the wrestling coach, head coach, since to archie griffin, the heisman trophy winner. the father of andrew luck. ed: this is a deal. and the justice department in the clinton investigations. we don't have evidence of this either. >> jordan used that narrative. and jim jordan wants to move up in the leadership, someone who has been vocal on the issue of the fbi and rod rosenstein, when that happens you get a bigger target on your back and if you had this damocles hanging over you that no one could prove or disprove that could undercut you in a potential leadership race. ed: no evidence he did anything wrong but you have 15 seconds, what is the next move? >> this will heat up when they come back to session next week. the house comes back next tuesday. ed: thanks for the facts tonight. return out of a spy novel, british attorneys lame russia for the latest poison attacks, russia denies it. ed: another twist in the case of a couple in britain
advantage of what jim jordan's position was, and look at who was copied on them they were sent to jim jordan, one of the emails i looked at was into the wrestling coach, head coach, since to archie griffin, the heisman trophy winner. the father of andrew luck. ed: this is a deal. and the justice department in the clinton investigations. we don't have evidence of this either. >> jordan used that narrative. and jim jordan wants to move up in the leadership, someone who has been vocal on the...
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one man though says jim jordan is lying. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "cactus calamity". (man 1) i read that the saguaro can live to be two hundred years old. (woman) how old do you think that one is? (man 1) my guess would be, about... (man 2) i'd say about two hundred. (man 1) yeah... (burke) gives houseplant a whole new meaning. and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ >>> this morning, ohio republican congressman jim jordan denying explosive accusations that he ignored sexual abuse allegations while he was a wrestling coach at ohio state. jordan telling politico overnight, "i never knew of any type of abuse. if i did, i would have done something about it." cnn's jean casarez spoke with a former wrestler who says what jordan is saying now is a lie and joins us now with more. >> start at the beginning. ohio state university is in the midst right now of
one man though says jim jordan is lying. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "cactus calamity". (man 1) i read that the saguaro can live to be two hundred years old. (woman) how old do you think that one is? (man 1) my guess would be, about... (man 2) i'd say about two hundred. (man 1) yeah... (burke) gives houseplant a whole new meaning. and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing...
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listen to what he said about jim jordan's knowledge and what his knowledge was about what was done by dr. strauss. >> i was close to both jim and the coach. we talked openly within our locker room about strauss in particular that he was a serial groper i can tell you right now he's not telling the truth because he did know, he has knowledge he was there over eight years, it's impossible to ignore the training environment. it was deviant, chaotic. >> i asked disabato what specifically did jim jordan say to you back then as you were telling him about what was happening because he said he would go into the room to be treated for an injury and he would be touched in his private areas. he could not tell me what jim jordan told back to him, referred back to him but congressman jordan does have a response, we want to read this, it's from his office. congressman jordan never saw any abuse, never heard about any abuse and never had any abuse reported to him during his time as a coach at ohio state. he has not been contacted by investigators about the matter but will assist them in any way they
listen to what he said about jim jordan's knowledge and what his knowledge was about what was done by dr. strauss. >> i was close to both jim and the coach. we talked openly within our locker room about strauss in particular that he was a serial groper i can tell you right now he's not telling the truth because he did know, he has knowledge he was there over eight years, it's impossible to ignore the training environment. it was deviant, chaotic. >> i asked disabato what...
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jim jordan is a friend of mine. we don't always agree with each other over the years, but i've always known jim jordan to be a man of honesty and a man of integrity. i also want to make sure that ohio state conducts the review of this doctor and what he did. that's important so the campuses are safe. i'm glad jim is supporting that review. >> paul ryan's words there coming at a very critical time for jim jordan when there's questions over how this scandal will influence his political future. the republican conference did meet behind closed doors this morning. during that meeting, only one congressman brought up the scandal in the context of we need to rally around our colleague. certainly talking to numerous lawmakers coming out of that meeting, they all came to his defense. not only came to his defense, but today really seemed to go on offense, really trying to down play the validity of these allegations that are indeed mounting, many colleagues calling them hearsay, saying there is no concrete evidence to the alle
jim jordan is a friend of mine. we don't always agree with each other over the years, but i've always known jim jordan to be a man of honesty and a man of integrity. i also want to make sure that ohio state conducts the review of this doctor and what he did. that's important so the campuses are safe. i'm glad jim is supporting that review. >> paul ryan's words there coming at a very critical time for jim jordan when there's questions over how this scandal will influence his political...
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jordan, 5 or 6 people saying jim jordan did know about this, he needs to speak up. >> what about his talk to brett that perkins, the law firm gathering this material send emails to congressman jordan. he said he didn't receive them and got to do something. a lot of business, not just the democratic national committee but in the last election, he was a law firm representing the dnc and hillary clinton and was involved in putting together the anti-trump dossier. jordan thinks is a political move. >> jim jordan said that is the hillary clinton loughran, it is funny when i take on one of these witnesses, every liberal in the country can find my email and my phone number and call up and express their views and they can't get a hold of me? i have been privy to the email that was sent to the incorrect email address, it is short, terse and basic and transactional, he says he's going to talk with them next week. one thing we don't know, if we are doing an investigation in a universe of 10 people 100 people, if there's people they absolutely unequivocally want to talk to they could have found
jordan, 5 or 6 people saying jim jordan did know about this, he needs to speak up. >> what about his talk to brett that perkins, the law firm gathering this material send emails to congressman jordan. he said he didn't receive them and got to do something. a lot of business, not just the democratic national committee but in the last election, he was a law firm representing the dnc and hillary clinton and was involved in putting together the anti-trump dossier. jordan thinks is a political...
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what's with jim jordan? this is so old. is the house ethics committee, will they look at this. >> they could have them look at this to understand, get clarity. the free caucus, him one of the two head honchos, they have to make a decision when members return, to say, wait a minute, is there a cloud hanging over jim jordan, is there a tracks? i notice members of congress vice president been returning phone calls. i did talk to some tonight. they're circling the wagons. they don't want to be associated with someone who might have an ethics problem like this, ed. >> because they simply don't know what's true, what's not true, from a couple decades ago. >> absolutely. it's hard to prove, hard to disprove. this could be fatal for jim jordan if he wants to move into leadership. >> thanks, chad. the associated press published a bombshell report yesterday, at least that's what it suggested. the headline reads, u.s. army quietly discharging immigrant recruits. as doug mcelway reports, there are details that need a close look. >> it
what's with jim jordan? this is so old. is the house ethics committee, will they look at this. >> they could have them look at this to understand, get clarity. the free caucus, him one of the two head honchos, they have to make a decision when members return, to say, wait a minute, is there a cloud hanging over jim jordan, is there a tracks? i notice members of congress vice president been returning phone calls. i did talk to some tonight. they're circling the wagons. they don't want to...
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what jim jordan, wasn't even the all freedom caucus. and the majority of republicans, not only is the speaker not supporting it but the senate intelligence committee and the whole tree they are barking up to say this is the wrong tree, you're going the wrong place on this. a lot of voices are opposed to what they are seeking as relates to rosenstein. to lunch the impeachment proceeding, i give them the benefit of the doubt, jim jordan, this may have been beyond his control, this is pure coincidence but to launch the impeachment proceeding on the same day you announce your candidacy for speaker, i am with willing to believe it would taint both in the eyes of many members. are you insincere about this, is that in the service of this. and the smarter course of action would not tangle up, jim jordan's chances will not wait between now and his candidacy. >> that is the work ahead. many republicans reacting to the saying we don't want to weigh in on this. >> this is why we can't have nice things. shannon: still looking for unicorns to ride do
what jim jordan, wasn't even the all freedom caucus. and the majority of republicans, not only is the speaker not supporting it but the senate intelligence committee and the whole tree they are barking up to say this is the wrong tree, you're going the wrong place on this. a lot of voices are opposed to what they are seeking as relates to rosenstein. to lunch the impeachment proceeding, i give them the benefit of the doubt, jim jordan, this may have been beyond his control, this is pure...
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is this jim jordan out there fighting for himself? are members of the freedom caucus getting behind him? is there a concerted effort to fight this on capitol hill? >> definitely concerted. my colleagues had a great story last night about jordan rallying internally but had hired an outside public relations firm to help fight the charges, which he says are totally bunk. right now on capitol hill, there's been not one person that i know of who has spoken out against jim jordan. he has support from paul ryan, kevin mccarthy, steve scalise, the president of the united states. he said today to nbc news in the hallway, i've stood up to a speaker of my own party. i stood up to the irs. i've stood up to the fbi. i'm going to stand up for my own wrestlers, which is what he said he did in the past. now, the real interesting thing is, and paul ryan addressed this today, the ethics committee, which governs members of congress' behavior, does not have authority over behavior before a member of congress was a member of congress. we're talking about
is this jim jordan out there fighting for himself? are members of the freedom caucus getting behind him? is there a concerted effort to fight this on capitol hill? >> definitely concerted. my colleagues had a great story last night about jordan rallying internally but had hired an outside public relations firm to help fight the charges, which he says are totally bunk. right now on capitol hill, there's been not one person that i know of who has spoken out against jim jordan. he has...
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i'm glad jim is supporting that review. >> he's pretty staunchly standing on jim jordan's side. what does that say to you, garrett? >> reporter: well, katy, it's consistent with what we've seen from the rest of the republican party which has really closed ranks around jordan at this point. first it was his colleagues in the house freedom caucus who made a unanimous decision that they would back him, saying as much in a tweet that they sent out i think it was just last night. and then you had numbers two and three house republicans also saying that they would stand with jordan and that they believe his denials. right now i think it's a pretty consistent position here in the house, that republicans have closed ranks around one of their most visible and at times outspoken members, at least pending the results of this investigation, which the speaker alluded to here. that's where we're going to get the facts here is from ohio state's and the sort of parallel track criminal investigation that are going on in ohio into the behavior of this former doctor on the osu wrestling team. >> w
i'm glad jim is supporting that review. >> he's pretty staunchly standing on jim jordan's side. what does that say to you, garrett? >> reporter: well, katy, it's consistent with what we've seen from the rest of the republican party which has really closed ranks around jordan at this point. first it was his colleagues in the house freedom caucus who made a unanimous decision that they would back him, saying as much in a tweet that they sent out i think it was just last night. and...
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that i have not contacted jim jordan himself. if the allegations were serious at this point, he would have been interviewed. he's not been interviewed. he's not been contacted. sabato had a contract with ohio state university. he lost that contract because hedy not handle it well. he was arrested for telephone harassment in february of this year. he's just not a good witness. >> john, this is what -- you know, this is what all lies of jordan are saying here. some are looking at the democrats and saying, okay, are you defending hip, not defending him? do you have any say in the matter considering some democrats have also been in hot water, if you will, with scandals of their own whether it's senator al franken or connors. how do you weigh in on this? >> what you see is when that happen, they step down. they step away. i think it's too early to malign them. we see that a lot on the republican side of the aisle. that's unfortunate. >> those are facts, jon. >> let me finish my statement. let it take place. i know republicans have a d
that i have not contacted jim jordan himself. if the allegations were serious at this point, he would have been interviewed. he's not been interviewed. he's not been contacted. sabato had a contract with ohio state university. he lost that contract because hedy not handle it well. he was arrested for telephone harassment in february of this year. he's just not a good witness. >> john, this is what -- you know, this is what all lies of jordan are saying here. some are looking at the...
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to think i would not stand up to my athletes is ridiculous. >> now, jim jordan back in the late 1980s early '90s was an assistant coach. one of three. russ hellickson was the head coach and cnn prooeviously reported that he said in a video that he told the doctor at one point, dr. richard strauss that you are too hands on. the doctor responded i'm being thorough. russ hellickson went further "when you shower with the athletes, they feel uncomfortable." well, he's now telling "usa today" this morning almost the same thing, that the athletes felt uncomfortable with him showering with the team. he told dr. strauss that. strauss said well you also somehow we are the team. he said not for an hour, doc. and he said you're also too hands on with weigh ins so with this information poppy, i think we can see that the head coach hellickson knew what was going on and the rest are saying jim jordan knew, we know he knew because we told him and talked about it. 14 wrestlers came out yesterday saying he did not know. >> former wres tlers saying he knew, some saying he didn't know. and the doctor isn
to think i would not stand up to my athletes is ridiculous. >> now, jim jordan back in the late 1980s early '90s was an assistant coach. one of three. russ hellickson was the head coach and cnn prooeviously reported that he said in a video that he told the doctor at one point, dr. richard strauss that you are too hands on. the doctor responded i'm being thorough. russ hellickson went further "when you shower with the athletes, they feel uncomfortable." well, he's now telling...
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jim jordan was an assistant coach to the team. the statement from jordan's office is defiant and unequivocal saying that congressman never saw any abuse, never heard about any abuse and never had anything reported to him. what is his law firm saying? >> the legal counsel for ohio state university says they did previously contact jim jordan's office by e-mail and phone to request that he participate in an interview. they say he has not responded to those requests. >> he said despite claims to the contrary, he has not received a request from the investigative team. we demand they send us the communication and remain willing to assist in any way that we can. the team physician forage lettics from 1981 through 1995 at the university, he treated athletes from 14 sports there including wrestling. and that's where he overlapped with now congressman jim jordan, a former assistant wrestling coach. ohio's attorney general's office in conjunction with legal counsel for ohio state launched an independent investigation in april of this year an
jim jordan was an assistant coach to the team. the statement from jordan's office is defiant and unequivocal saying that congressman never saw any abuse, never heard about any abuse and never had anything reported to him. what is his law firm saying? >> the legal counsel for ohio state university says they did previously contact jim jordan's office by e-mail and phone to request that he participate in an interview. they say he has not responded to those requests. >> he said despite...
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it seems the gentlemen that you talk to, some of them admire jim jordan. they call him jimmy, they have fond memories of him. is it your sense there's a vendetta they're pursuing? >> absolutely not. the overriding feeling that we're getting from them is dismay. here's a man that they respected, that they roomed with, that they relied on as coach, they trusted. they would have these talking sessions where they would talk about this, that and the other. one of them said that at one point coach jordan even mentioned how he wanted to run for president one day. they trusted this guy. and for him to come out flat out and say i didn't know anything about this, they're just utterly amazed. it's kind of like saying the earth is flat or, you know, night is day or december is january. it just doesn't make any sense to a lot of them. they just don't get it. basically they're waiting for an explanation and there hasn't been one forthcoming. >> my sense is that there will be more developments on the story, not just with respect to jordan but with respect to strauss. cor
it seems the gentlemen that you talk to, some of them admire jim jordan. they call him jimmy, they have fond memories of him. is it your sense there's a vendetta they're pursuing? >> absolutely not. the overriding feeling that we're getting from them is dismay. here's a man that they respected, that they roomed with, that they relied on as coach, they trusted. they would have these talking sessions where they would talk about this, that and the other. one of them said that at one point...
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and jim jordan saying, listen, it's just flat out untrue. i didn't know anything about it. >> more than one former wreftsle wrestler. the former story had three. hard to imagine that everyone working there would have some knowledge. this clearly isn't over yet. you can hear the other thing congressman jordan was saying. this wrestler speaking out was contacting them in a way that he felt was in a bullying way and might involve the capital police. you'll have a capitol hill investigation, the invest gation of what went on at ohio state. and jim jordan will be a part of that and more is going to come out. so, yes, it's a who do you believe but i don't think it ends there. more facts are going to be learned. >> what david mentioned there, this idea that now jim jordan's office is acknowledging that these wrestlers, or at leefts one of them reached out multiple times by e-mail. he can't say he didn't know about the allegation. he didn't first learn of it from the nbc story because this guy was contacting him. >> here's, i think, one quick step b
and jim jordan saying, listen, it's just flat out untrue. i didn't know anything about it. >> more than one former wreftsle wrestler. the former story had three. hard to imagine that everyone working there would have some knowledge. this clearly isn't over yet. you can hear the other thing congressman jordan was saying. this wrestler speaking out was contacting them in a way that he felt was in a bullying way and might involve the capital police. you'll have a capitol hill investigation,...
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>> immediate future is a question of when jim jordan sits down with the osu investigators leading the investigation into the doctor. he told me this week that's something he's working with investigators to do, potentially could happen as early as this week. long-term there's considerable questions about his political standing on capitol hill, political influence. it is notable you have a lot of republican voices coming out in last 48, 72 hours, voicing their support of jim jordan. we'll continue watching that. seems like he's on solid ground at the moment in his party. but we'll watch especially in addition to if there are more allegations to uncover. >> thanks for that report. >>> now a cnn exclusive. we have new audio unearthed by kay file which reveals shocking commentary by darla shine. you know her husband, bill shine, former fox news executive, now part of the white house. deputy chief of staff for communications. in this clip from a radio show in 2009, darla shine mocks female soldiers dealing with sexual harassment. i'll going to play it so you hear entire audio. >> i'm sexist
>> immediate future is a question of when jim jordan sits down with the osu investigators leading the investigation into the doctor. he told me this week that's something he's working with investigators to do, potentially could happen as early as this week. long-term there's considerable questions about his political standing on capitol hill, political influence. it is notable you have a lot of republican voices coming out in last 48, 72 hours, voicing their support of jim jordan. we'll...
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it seems to me the gentleman that you talked to, some of them admire jim jordan. they call him jimmy and have fond memories. >> overriding feeling that we are getting from them is dismay. here is a man that they respected, they roomed with, relied on as coach and trusted. and they would have these talking sessions where they would talk about this that and the other. and one of them said at one point, coach jordan said how he wanted to run for president one day. they trusted this guy and for him to come out and say i didn't know anything about this, they are utterly amazed. it is like saying, the earth is flat, night is day, or december is january. it doesn't make sense to them. a lot of them don't get it. and basically, they are waiting for an explanation. and there hasn't been one forth coming. >> my sense is there will be more coming out on this. corey, thank you for this fantastic reporting. great work. >>> next, the day donald trump could be the largest trade war. i'm april kennedy and i'm an arborist with pg&e in the sierras. since the onset of the drought, m
it seems to me the gentleman that you talked to, some of them admire jim jordan. they call him jimmy and have fond memories. >> overriding feeling that we are getting from them is dismay. here is a man that they respected, they roomed with, relied on as coach and trusted. and they would have these talking sessions where they would talk about this that and the other. and one of them said at one point, coach jordan said how he wanted to run for president one day. they trusted this guy and...
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it brings attention to jim jordan. >> it's all designed to give jim jordan something to talk about. >> he's announced today that he's running for speaker. >> right. steve scalise said he would have voted for it, john harwood. paul ryan said he wouldn't. kevin mccarthy didn't say a word about it. what do you have to do if you want to be the leader of the house republicans? >> well, look at that caucus. steve scalise knows where the sweet spot is. paul ryan has known where the sweet spot is. he's leaving and he's trying to preserve some patina of statesmanship here while he's doing it. but steve scalise is looking for votes. this is not going to happen. it's not going anywhere. but it does tell you something about that competition. >> yes. yes, it does. i thought that was an interesting tell from scalise today. i'm tabling this with you three. matt miller, i'll let you go, thank you very much, sir. >>> up ahead, is it possible that anything in president trump's tweets can and will be used as evidence against him? that's next. friends, colleagues, gathered here are the world's finest ins
it brings attention to jim jordan. >> it's all designed to give jim jordan something to talk about. >> he's announced today that he's running for speaker. >> right. steve scalise said he would have voted for it, john harwood. paul ryan said he wouldn't. kevin mccarthy didn't say a word about it. what do you have to do if you want to be the leader of the house republicans? >> well, look at that caucus. steve scalise knows where the sweet spot is. paul ryan has known where...
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this may have been beyond jim jordan's control. the whole time this is pure coincidence to launch the impeachment proceeding on the same day that you announce her candidacy for speaker taints both in the eyes of many members. i'm more than willing to believe it's coincidental. but it says are you insincere -- is it in service of this or that? draws further questions about is it a stunt to get attention or is it something you really sincerely feel? if you feel it, the smarter political course of action would be to not tingle that up with his speaker run. his chances of being >> or not will not go up and down a few rates between now and the august recess. >> shannon: they have to hold on to the majority are they won't be talking about any of i it. many republicans reacting to this saying we don't want to weigh in on the speaker fight. we have to try to hold on to the house. >> this is why we can't have nice things. >> shannon: we have a couple nice things. i'm going to start looking for unicorns. >> paint your donkey. >> shannon: tha
this may have been beyond jim jordan's control. the whole time this is pure coincidence to launch the impeachment proceeding on the same day that you announce her candidacy for speaker taints both in the eyes of many members. i'm more than willing to believe it's coincidental. but it says are you insincere -- is it in service of this or that? draws further questions about is it a stunt to get attention or is it something you really sincerely feel? if you feel it, the smarter political course of...
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tonight, representative jim jordan is speaking out. >>> dangerous rescue. daring attempts to get boys and a coach out of a cave where they've been trapped for almost 11 days. will rising water add to the urgency? wolf blitzer is off today. i'm jim acosta and you're in "the situation room." >>> and we're following breaking news tonight about environmental protection agency chief scott pruitt facing more than a dozen federal ethics investigations. sources tell cnn that pruitt asked president trump directly to make him attorney general and fire jeff sessions. we'll talk about that and more with senator ed mar i can of the foreign relations committee. our correspondents, specialists and analysts standing by. but first cnn white house correspondent kaitlyn collins with more. what are you hearing? >> reporter: jim, we are hearing more as the scandals pile up against the epa secretary about why it was that president trump floated the idea of replacing jeff sessions with him and letting him lead the justice department. that's because scott pruitt directly proposed
tonight, representative jim jordan is speaking out. >>> dangerous rescue. daring attempts to get boys and a coach out of a cave where they've been trapped for almost 11 days. will rising water add to the urgency? wolf blitzer is off today. i'm jim acosta and you're in "the situation room." >>> and we're following breaking news tonight about environmental protection agency chief scott pruitt facing more than a dozen federal ethics investigations. sources tell cnn that...
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tea party members promoted jim jordan as speaker of the house. has become increasingly famous this past year as he and devin nunes ha have led the most aggressive criticism in congress against robert mueller. congressman jordan said he had nothing to do with anything related to this scandal. he had no idea if anything anyabuse was happening if indeed it was happening while he was there, but ohio state seems to be taking this very seriously. there is a big law firm doing an investigation. and now thanks othis nbc news report today, there are multiple young men on the record saying they were victims here, and they are willing to talk about it, including the congressman's role while it was happening. just watch that one. that could end up being a very big deal. we also got news today of some important resignations. the head of the public corruption unit in the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york has resigned. this is the lead public corruption prosecutor in that u.s. attorney's office. and the lead public corruption prosecuto
tea party members promoted jim jordan as speaker of the house. has become increasingly famous this past year as he and devin nunes ha have led the most aggressive criticism in congress against robert mueller. congressman jordan said he had nothing to do with anything related to this scandal. he had no idea if anything anyabuse was happening if indeed it was happening while he was there, but ohio state seems to be taking this very seriously. there is a big law firm doing an investigation. and...
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what do you think jim jordan for speaker? >> i'm all for jim jordan. before we do that we need to vacate the speakership. any member can do that. sign up for resolution. they have to vote on it, they'll try to make it a procedural thing and table it. lou: motion to vacate. >> it puts this one out and then they can decide who they want. democrats are nominate nancy pelosi, republicans go behind closed doors and pick who they want. we need someone -- it's 103 day to the election. we need someone to lead us into the election. in this election was held today we would get clobbered. a new quinnipiac poll, we would be behind today literally lose by a major margin, eight, ten points, which would certainly give the democrats the majority. lou: and that would convert to -- do you have an idea of how many seats that would convert to? >> 30, 35 seats. that's the number. there's 50 seats in play, almost all of them are r seats. so we need a strong leader. we got all of the money in the world. lou: think about what we've been talking about, ed. we're talking about
what do you think jim jordan for speaker? >> i'm all for jim jordan. before we do that we need to vacate the speakership. any member can do that. sign up for resolution. they have to vote on it, they'll try to make it a procedural thing and table it. lou: motion to vacate. >> it puts this one out and then they can decide who they want. democrats are nominate nancy pelosi, republicans go behind closed doors and pick who they want. we need someone -- it's 103 day to the election. we...
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has -- this isn't the jim jordan i know. >> i asked disabato what exactly did jim jordan say back to you when you told him about what was happening to you then? he didn't have an answer. he didn't have specifics. but he said that just everybody knew in the wrestling department, and that's where it stands. we'll see if congressman jordan has another reply today. he a he set for a live event in ohio. >> the scope of the investigation, when you listen to how many sports it is and how many interviews they've already done, it is really shocking. >> and how many coaches, how many academic advisors, how many presidents of the university were there during that time. it's massive. >> jean, thank you so much. i really appreciate it. >>> coming up next for you -- the government says it is no longer providing updates on the kids who have been separated from families. a republican congressman went to get some answers. what did he find out? he joins me next. so, my portfolio did pretty well last year. that's great. but the market was up nearly twice as much. that's a tough pill to swallow. exactly
has -- this isn't the jim jordan i know. >> i asked disabato what exactly did jim jordan say back to you when you told him about what was happening to you then? he didn't have an answer. he didn't have specifics. but he said that just everybody knew in the wrestling department, and that's where it stands. we'll see if congressman jordan has another reply today. he a he set for a live event in ohio. >> the scope of the investigation, when you listen to how many sports it is and how...
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he's since died, but his tenure overlapped with jim jordan, at the time a former assistant wrestling coach. jean casarez is back with us on this. i know you have two key people speaking out in past couple of hours? >> reporter: that's right. and congressman jim jordan just spoke out publicly for the first time at a fourth of july event in ohio saying that he did not know that abuse was going on to the male athletes while he was an assistant coach at ohio state university. there's a massive investigation going on now by independent counsel in ohio. the allegation is that this doctor, richard strauss, who was the team doctor for athletics at the university for two decades, that he would treat athletes for their injuries, and while they were in the examination room aalone with the doctor, he would sexually molest them. i spoke with a wrestler back in the day when the doctor was there along with congressman jordan. he said he was a victim and the congressman knew about this because everybody in the wrestling department did. listen -- >> i was close to both jim and coach. we talked openly
he's since died, but his tenure overlapped with jim jordan, at the time a former assistant wrestling coach. jean casarez is back with us on this. i know you have two key people speaking out in past couple of hours? >> reporter: that's right. and congressman jim jordan just spoke out publicly for the first time at a fourth of july event in ohio saying that he did not know that abuse was going on to the male athletes while he was an assistant coach at ohio state university. there's a...
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claims jordan knew of ongoing abuse for years. >> i've got a lot of of affinity for jim jordan as coach, as friend, but at the end of the day, you have a duty to myself and other victims to tell the real stories. >> jordan insists to fox news that no one ever reported conduct or abuse through official channels. >> the conversations in locker room are a lot different than allegations of abuse. >> now several house gop sources as well as member of house republican leadership tell fox news they've got questions. while none are willing to speak on record they all say they want more clarity on what exactly jordan meant when he said locker room conversation. the president says he buys it, quote, jim jordan is one of the most outstanding people i met him since washington, i believe him 100%. capitol hill insider says accusations call into question whether they will continue with jordan at the helm along meadows. julie. julie: thank you. connell: let's talk more about the story. former trump campaign director, executive director at look ahead america, don, former state representative. welcome t
claims jordan knew of ongoing abuse for years. >> i've got a lot of of affinity for jim jordan as coach, as friend, but at the end of the day, you have a duty to myself and other victims to tell the real stories. >> jordan insists to fox news that no one ever reported conduct or abuse through official channels. >> the conversations in locker room are a lot different than allegations of abuse. >> now several house gop sources as well as member of house republican...
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jim jordan jumping in. the last month he's spent saying i saw nothing, i didn't see anything, nobody came to me for help regarding i hhis time when was the assistant wrestling coach at ohio state university. several wrestlers have said there was a doctor at university who fondled them and did other sexually inappropriate things to them. they say jim jordan knew about it and didn't say anything. this is jim jordan in a local tv interview saying it never happened. >> it's false. i mean, i never saw, never heard of, never was told about any type of abuse. conversations in a locker room are a lot different than people coming up talking about abuse. no one ever reported any abuse to me. if they had, i would have dealt with it. what bothers me the most is the guys that are saying this thing, i know they know the truth. i know they do. >> that's obviously with fox news. i thought it was back home in ohio. to the point where he says, i saw nothing, this is not true, these guy who are saying that i did know, know th
jim jordan jumping in. the last month he's spent saying i saw nothing, i didn't see anything, nobody came to me for help regarding i hhis time when was the assistant wrestling coach at ohio state university. several wrestlers have said there was a doctor at university who fondled them and did other sexually inappropriate things to them. they say jim jordan knew about it and didn't say anything. this is jim jordan in a local tv interview saying it never happened. >> it's false. i mean, i...
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this comes at a time jim jordan will likely face a lot more scrutiny. congress is back this week tomorrow, congress will reconvene after a week-long recess, so clear jim jordan will face a lot more scrutiny here on capitol hill. d. dana? >> no question. thank you so much for bringing that reporting. manu, you spent a lot of time walking those halls and for people who might not know, jim jordan doesn't technically have a leadership position, but he is a very powerful member because he founded the freedom caucus, which is conservative and likes to many times successfully stopped pieces of legislation the republican leadership wanted to get out there, so he's a well known guy and also somebody that's being pushed by those conservatives to be the next speaker. and now this. >> and now this. those same conservatives are rallying to his defense. the house freedom caucus in large part is supporting him, believing that his contention that he didn't know anything about this. it's interesting to hear the house speaker take a different line last week when this ini
this comes at a time jim jordan will likely face a lot more scrutiny. congress is back this week tomorrow, congress will reconvene after a week-long recess, so clear jim jordan will face a lot more scrutiny here on capitol hill. d. dana? >> no question. thank you so much for bringing that reporting. manu, you spent a lot of time walking those halls and for people who might not know, jim jordan doesn't technically have a leadership position, but he is a very powerful member because he...
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lou: congressman jim jordan, we thank you very much. >> thank you. lou: up next, president trump securing a foreign policy victory following yesterday's nato summit. >> a great relationship, everybody in that room. by the time we left got along and agreed to pay more and agreed to pay more quickly. >> president and first lady, tonight, in the u.k. we take up the president's nato success. christian is joining us next. stay with us. my father passed this truck down to me, that's the same thing i want to do with you. it's an emotional thing to watch your child grow up and especially get behind the wheel. i want to keep you know, stacking up the memories and the miles and the years. he's gonna get mine -but i'm gonna get a new one. -oh yeah when it's time for your old chevy truck to become their new chevy truck, there's truck month. get 18% of msrp cash back on all silverado 1500 crew cab lt pickups when you finance with gm financial. that's $9,000 on this silverado. plus, during truck month make no monthly payments for 90 days. dad and son: we just fini
lou: congressman jim jordan, we thank you very much. >> thank you. lou: up next, president trump securing a foreign policy victory following yesterday's nato summit. >> a great relationship, everybody in that room. by the time we left got along and agreed to pay more and agreed to pay more quickly. >> president and first lady, tonight, in the u.k. we take up the president's nato success. christian is joining us next. stay with us. my father passed this truck down to me, that's...
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jim jordan of course from the freedom caucus, the conservative. >> reporter: why are you running for speaker? what's your message here? >> i think there's some things that need to be changed. we have a letter going out to every single member as we speak. we'll get you a copy of that letter as well, which lays out what we think needs to happen. the main thing is we need to get refocused on doing what we said we would do. >> reporter: how do you think the osu investigation and allegations affect your run? >> everyone can see through that story. >> geoff, as the door closes, the question asked of jim jordan is, there were allegations about impropriety by a coach and a doctor in ohio state wrestling, i believe. >> reporter: that's right. >> he said he had no knowledge about it, never saw anything about it, so he's firmly denied that. but there is, some people would say, a cloud hanging over him. in any case, he's challenging -- kevin mccarthy would be the anointed successor, perhaps steve scalise. >> reporter: that's right. and jim jordan denies any wrongdoing in that osu wrestling case
jim jordan of course from the freedom caucus, the conservative. >> reporter: why are you running for speaker? what's your message here? >> i think there's some things that need to be changed. we have a letter going out to every single member as we speak. we'll get you a copy of that letter as well, which lays out what we think needs to happen. the main thing is we need to get refocused on doing what we said we would do. >> reporter: how do you think the osu investigation and...
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jim jordan got information on that today. when does the truth come out and when are these people held responsible for abusing the power that we the people gave them? the smelly people? >> we are only going to get justice when attorney general jeff sessions does his job and follows the advice that dozens in congress have been giving him to appoint a second special counsel. if you watched the hearing, you saw the democrats give a five hour cat bath to peter strzok. you have a democrat from the state of new jersey who said he deserved hugs and kisses. and one from ohio said peter strzok deserves an apology and one from tennessee said he deserves a purple heart. that is offensive for those people who have been wounded in action and it just shows the extept to which anything in any way negative for donald trump is something that democrats will embrace even if it's harmful to the country and the institutions that we have to be able to rely on. >> sean: congressman meadows, how do we hold these people accountable? if i lied to a fis
jim jordan got information on that today. when does the truth come out and when are these people held responsible for abusing the power that we the people gave them? the smelly people? >> we are only going to get justice when attorney general jeff sessions does his job and follows the advice that dozens in congress have been giving him to appoint a second special counsel. if you watched the hearing, you saw the democrats give a five hour cat bath to peter strzok. you have a democrat from...
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sabato is focusing in on jim jordan. normally it is the president of under, the athletic director you can it is t can, it is the boss of the team doctor. so something to keep in mind. but others have also said jim jordan knew what was going on. >> and we have a quick statement from paul ryan saying these are serious allegations and issues, the university has rightfully initiated a full investigation into the matter of. the spedder will a wait the findings of that quur inquiry. >>> now a story of survival. 12 young boys found starving, dehydrated, but alive in a flooded cave in thailand along with their 25-year-old coach. watch this with me. this is this incredible moment. british scuba divers emerge from the blackwater to see these soccer players and their coach just standing there in the darkness with t-shirts and shorts on. nearly ten days after they first went missing. >> how many of you? 13? brilliant. >> but that he elation was short lived with the reality of two potentially deadly words. monsoon season. the same he
sabato is focusing in on jim jordan. normally it is the president of under, the athletic director you can it is t can, it is the boss of the team doctor. so something to keep in mind. but others have also said jim jordan knew what was going on. >> and we have a quick statement from paul ryan saying these are serious allegations and issues, the university has rightfully initiated a full investigation into the matter of. the spedder will a wait the findings of that quur inquiry....
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jordan. >> i have always known jim doppler rad jordan to be a man of honesty and integrity. i want ohio state to review the conduct of the doctor which is important to keep campuses safe. >> jordan denies knowing about the abuse while working at the school. >>> papa john's founder resigning as chairman of the board after using a racial slur. schnatter used the "n" word in a call in may. he complained that colonel sanders used the term without facing backlash. he said racism has no place in our society regardless of context. schnatter stepped down as ceo after saying the sales were hurt after the nfl and how it handled the anthem protest. the promotion with major league baseball has been suspended as well. that story continues to trend. number two on twitter. it is not going away. >>> ahead, waves, smiles, tears from the youth soccer team. the wild boars rescued from the cave in thailand. now our first look at the rescue efforts underground. does your business internet provider promise a lot? let's see who delivers more. comcast business gives you gig-speed in more places. th
jordan. >> i have always known jim doppler rad jordan to be a man of honesty and integrity. i want ohio state to review the conduct of the doctor which is important to keep campuses safe. >> jordan denies knowing about the abuse while working at the school. >>> papa john's founder resigning as chairman of the board after using a racial slur. schnatter used the "n" word in a call in may. he complained that colonel sanders used the term without facing backlash. he...
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congressman jim jordan answers questions about whether he knew about sexual abuse claims against a team doctor at the ohio state university and we are checking in with your health care and how the trump administration is working to change obamacare. this is "special report" ." happy fourth of july and welcome to washington. i am jon scott in for bret baier. on the day that we celebrate our freedom, many are concerned about president trump's pick for the supreme court. president trump isn't talking about it today. he's talking about independence day with military families at the white house. >> hamburgers, hot dogs and the marine corps band. the president kicked off military families pigment here on the south lawn of the white house. president honoring each branch of service here in the south lawn and this is all head of tonight's fireworks show nation's capital. 242 years of independence and the 45th president commemorates the first. >> general george washington fought a long, tough war with the british to end america's freedom. today as we celebrate the fourth of july with friends and
congressman jim jordan answers questions about whether he knew about sexual abuse claims against a team doctor at the ohio state university and we are checking in with your health care and how the trump administration is working to change obamacare. this is "special report" ." happy fourth of july and welcome to washington. i am jon scott in for bret baier. on the day that we celebrate our freedom, many are concerned about president trump's pick for the supreme court. president...
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geoff, let's start with jim jordan here. this is a six-term republican congressman. he's one of the most conservative in the entire senate conference -- excuse me, the congressional conference among republican members of the house. so what if kevin mccarthy looks like a likely person to replace paul ryan. what is jim jordan in particular trying to do here in terms of leverage? >> well, here's the thing. kevin mccarthy is certainly a friend of president trump's, peter, but he's viewed as being suspect by at least some -- certain members of the far right conservative wing, of which jim jordan is a part. so jim jordan's run really is the latest play by conservative members of congress here to really push for more leeway should republicans keep control of the house come november. now, we're not entirely sure that will happen yet, but jordan's run really gives members of the conservative freedom caucus more room to push for committee positions and leadership roles. percolating in the background is this scandal, this controversy that when he was an assistant wrestling coac
geoff, let's start with jim jordan here. this is a six-term republican congressman. he's one of the most conservative in the entire senate conference -- excuse me, the congressional conference among republican members of the house. so what if kevin mccarthy looks like a likely person to replace paul ryan. what is jim jordan in particular trying to do here in terms of leverage? >> well, here's the thing. kevin mccarthy is certainly a friend of president trump's, peter, but he's viewed as...
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charlie, the entire freedom caucus came out in support of jim jordan. they're tweeting, jim jordan is a man of integrity and we believe him and stand with him 100%. if he would have seen or heard something he would have acted. we to support his work in congress and fight for him. while orr republicans have been cautious to defend him, why do you think that is? >> well, first don, i would say, i'm neither here to condemn or defend jim jordan in this serious allegation. as a former chairman of the hou house ethics committee, i learned a long time ago never to jump into a situation like this without knowing the facts. i believe it's important that the university conducted a thorough investigation and jim jordan should cooperate with that investigation. just to see what the facts are before jumping into any conclusions one way or the other. i've known him for a long time, we've disagreed on politic tactics. he knew where i was coming from and i knew where he was coming from. even if we disagree, we represented one another. listen, norm, jordan told cnn his
charlie, the entire freedom caucus came out in support of jim jordan. they're tweeting, jim jordan is a man of integrity and we believe him and stand with him 100%. if he would have seen or heard something he would have acted. we to support his work in congress and fight for him. while orr republicans have been cautious to defend him, why do you think that is? >> well, first don, i would say, i'm neither here to condemn or defend jim jordan in this serious allegation. as a former chairman...
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lou: congressman jim jordan, we thank you very much. >> thank you. lou: up next, president trump securing a foreign policy victory following yesterday's nato summit. >> a great relationship, everybody in that room. by the time we left got along and agreed to pay more and agreed to pay more quickly. >> president and first lady, tonight, in the u.k. we take up the president's nato success. christian is joining us next. stay with us. jardiance asked: when it comes to managing your type 2 diabetes, what matters to you? you got a1c, heart, diet, and exercise. slide 'em up or slide 'em down. so let's see. for most of you, it's lower a1c. but only a few of you are thinking about your heart. fact is, even though it helps to manage a1c, type 2 diabetes still increases your risk of a fatal heart attack or stroke. jardiance is the only type 2 diabetes pill with a lifesaving cardiovascular benefit for adults who have type 2 diabetes and heart disease, significantly reducing the risk of dying from a cardiovascular event and lowering a1c, along with diet and exerc
lou: congressman jim jordan, we thank you very much. >> thank you. lou: up next, president trump securing a foreign policy victory following yesterday's nato summit. >> a great relationship, everybody in that room. by the time we left got along and agreed to pay more and agreed to pay more quickly. >> president and first lady, tonight, in the u.k. we take up the president's nato success. christian is joining us next. stay with us. jardiance asked: when it comes to managing...
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i'm inclined to believe jim jordan until there's proof otherwise. again, this is something that jim jordan and none of these other folks want to talk about dating back many decades. if there's validity to it, it's a problem. >> karen? >> what we've seen of these cases in other instances, if there's something there, it will come out. >> molly? >> we need more information. it's hard to judge anything. it comes from perkins coy, a law firm behind the allegations of russia collusion. jim jordan has been integral in fighting back against some of those conspiracy theories surrounding russia collusion. so the timing is interesting. i think we need to learn more. >> interesting. let's set the table here in great falls, in montana. the president is there to campaign for the reason senate candidate, matt rosendale. he won the republican primary. this republican goes up against the democrat incumbent, john tester. you may remember, the president had a problem with tester. he blamed tester in part for derailing the nomination of his veterans affairs nominee, th
i'm inclined to believe jim jordan until there's proof otherwise. again, this is something that jim jordan and none of these other folks want to talk about dating back many decades. if there's validity to it, it's a problem. >> karen? >> what we've seen of these cases in other instances, if there's something there, it will come out. >> molly? >> we need more information. it's hard to judge anything. it comes from perkins coy, a law firm behind the allegations of russia...
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you want jim jordan to emerge victorious? >> no. it's too premature to run for speaker of the house when the odds are against the republicans. when you are running this early, we'll have time to get tired of you. kennedy: is that like me running for press secretary? >> you have to hold your roles and wait until last moment. i think this shows the politics if anything. kennedy: the third-place finisher will get to throw their support among one of the two horses. >> the republicans don't know if they will have control of the house. there is a mid-term election they need to worry about. i think jim jordan is probably trying to deflect from terrible allegations. >> he talked about running for speaker before these allegations came out. there is plenty of democrats who challenged nancy pelosi if they got the house back. but they are not -- what we should be doing -- this is a historically, any republican would lose seats. but mccarthy raised $12 million for his committee. kennedy: i don't know what it is about those california politicians
you want jim jordan to emerge victorious? >> no. it's too premature to run for speaker of the house when the odds are against the republicans. when you are running this early, we'll have time to get tired of you. kennedy: is that like me running for press secretary? >> you have to hold your roles and wait until last moment. i think this shows the politics if anything. kennedy: the third-place finisher will get to throw their support among one of the two horses. >> the...
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lou: congressman jim jordan, we thank you very much. >> thank you. lou: up next, president trump securing a foreign policy victory following yesterday's nato summit. >> a great relationship, everybody in that room. by the time we left got along and agreed to pay more and agreed to pay more quickly. >> president and first lady, tonight, in the u.k. we take up the president's nato success. christian is joining us next. stay with us. you're headed down the highway when the guy in front slams on his brakes out of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time. hey, no big deal. you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge by raising your rates over one mistake. you hear that, karen? liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. how mature of them! for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ lou: despite best effort of london mayor sadiq khan and others trying to stir upo opposn and demonstration against president trump
lou: congressman jim jordan, we thank you very much. >> thank you. lou: up next, president trump securing a foreign policy victory following yesterday's nato summit. >> a great relationship, everybody in that room. by the time we left got along and agreed to pay more and agreed to pay more quickly. >> president and first lady, tonight, in the u.k. we take up the president's nato success. christian is joining us next. stay with us. you're headed down the highway when the guy in...
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another saying point-blank he knows that jim jordan did not know about this abuse. so certainly interesting here as the controversy shifts to jim jordan and his political future trying to be more aggressive in the pushback as he will fight for his political life. >> some democrats are looking for a formal congressional investigation into all of this at the same time in contrast to the republicans. we'll see what happens. thank you very much. >>> did michael cohen just draw the battle lines against the president and his team? sources say cohen is sending a clear message after rudy giuliani orders him to cooperate. eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like any of these types of plans, they could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call unitedhealthcare insurance company today to request a free... ...[decision guide.] with these types of plans... you'll
another saying point-blank he knows that jim jordan did not know about this abuse. so certainly interesting here as the controversy shifts to jim jordan and his political future trying to be more aggressive in the pushback as he will fight for his political life. >> some democrats are looking for a formal congressional investigation into all of this at the same time in contrast to the republicans. we'll see what happens. thank you very much. >>> did michael cohen just draw the...