and msnbc global affairs analyst john mclaughlin, acting cia director. kristen, the mixed messages from the president continuing. sarah sanders trying to say yesterday that the president wasn't saying that he believed russian intelligence, even though he said that, and another interview with cbs where he for the first time came down hard on vladimir putin. what are we to make of all of this and what is the intelligence community to make of all of it? >> reporter: i think first of all, in terms of what to make in terms of what's happening here at the white house, andrea, this is a white house in full damage control mode. the president clearly realizing it, trying to take a much tougher tone when it comes to vladimir putin during that interview with cbs news in which he finally says yes, he does agree with the intelligence community's assessment that russia meddled in the 2016 election. he caveated that by saying "because he's the head of the country." the mixed messaging is something the president's critics have seized upon. we saw that in full display ye

joining me now msnbc kristen welker, political analyst ashley parker. white house reporter at "the washington post," msnbc political analyst elise jordan. and msnbc national security analyst clint watts, a former fbi special agent and author the messing with the enemy. good to see all of you here. chris what do we know so far? >> the president really trying to shift the focus to the economy, his daughter and top adviser is there. she is talking about a new work force initiative and apparently the president signaling he's going to make a big announcement about that. he also says he's going to be inviting the leaders of the eu to the white house for a meeting, talking about trade, saying there's a a possibility he may be able to strike a trade deal. really trying to shift the focus here, but as you point out, the question today remains, was the president sincere in that walkback yesterday, particularly after he had this series of very defiant and fiery tweets this morning which seemed to be a walk back of his walk back. by the way, hisbackba walk back add

a >>> with thank you for watching this hour of msnbc on this 4th of july. more news with my colleague in new york. looking forward to hear what senator collins has to say about the supreme court battle. >> we're talking to her right now. have a got afternoon. good afternoon to all of you. pressure's ramping up on washington this 4th of july holiday to the debate over who to nominate to replace justice anthony kennedy is intensifying. we're five days away from the announcement. "wall street journal" reports the president is balancing three qualities. political attractiveness, legal record, and personal chemistry. now, most of the conversations so far has been largely focussed on the executive and judicial branchs but now congress's role is coming in focus. two republican senators on the left of the screen, susan collins of maine and lisa murkowski of alaska are being pressured to help stop the pick. current culture wars in america could have an im market on the fight over the makeup of the court as "the washington post" plays out, for those who fear the pros

thanks for watching this hour of msnbc live. right now more news with ali velshi in new york. >> great reporting from you on the narrowing of the field of supreme court justices, now likely to three. we'll concentrate on that over the course of the next hour. peter, thank you. good morning, everyone. i'm ali velshi. stephanie ruhle is off. today is thursday, july 5th. >>> breaking news from the white house. a source familiar with the white house telling me the list of names has been narrowed to three. >> from a substantive view, they're all deeply conservative. >> president trump is expected to announce his supreme court nominee on monday. >> very talented people, brilliant people, and i think you're going to love it. >> amy barrett would be better for the base, but a tougher confirmation fight. >> the senate will have the final say. and pressure building on red state democrats home for the holiday to oppose any presidential pick. >> presidential authority, gerrymandering, affirmative action. >> i have told the white house couns

i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. it is 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west, and here's what's happening. new concerns about north korea increasing nuclear production at secret sites. what nbc news has learned about kim jong-un's efforts to keep his program alive. >>> a call for change at a nationwide protest, but will demanding the abolishment of i.c.e. backfire on democrats? >>> and the change coming to the supreme court and what it means for abortion. how chief justice john roberts could play a key role in an unexpected way. >>> new this morning, growing concerns over evidence that north korea is ramping up its nuclear program. multiple experts exclusively tell nbc news that north korea is deceiving the u.s., despite president trump's claim that kim jong-un agreed to denuclearization. nbc's janis mackey frayer has details. >> reporter: it was a remarkable moment. the leaders of the u.s. and north korea standing shoulder to shoulder, pledging to denuclearize the korean peninsula. but now, more than a dozen u.s. intellig

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i'm david gura at msnbc headquarters in new york. to flip or not to flip with apologies to bill shakespeare, that's the question we assume michael cohen is asking him self day after day. the president's long time lawyer who once said he would take a bullet for donald trump. rudy giuliani is attacking michael cohen's credibility again today. it's amazing how his opinion of michael cohen has changed over these recent months. >> i expect he is going to cooperate with them. i don't think they will be happy because he doesn't have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. >> i expected something like this from cohen. he has been lying all week, or for two weeks. lying for years. >> there is nobody that i know that knows him, he will lie like crazy. >> joyce vance is with me. she is an msnbc contributor and former u.s. attorney. joyce, let me start with you. let's get in the mind of michael cohen here a little bit. so much has changed over the course of the last week. there was the s

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i'm da ra brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. 7:00 out east, 4:00 out west. breaking news, the rescue mission in thailand is under way. divers trying to save 12 boys and their soccer coach, navigating a flooded cave in a race against time. the latest on how far they have come and how far they have to go. >>> plus, gangster-like. how north korean officials describe the talks with the u.s. what is behind the different views of the same metings. >>> on the attack, the president ramps up criticism of the russia investigation saying they have the wrong target when it comes to collusion. >>> we begin with breaking news from thailand where 12 boys and their soccer coach draped trapp flooded cage are beginning their way home. divers will bring stranded boys one by one out of a flooded cave through nearly four miles of narrow tunnels filled with waters. new video shows workers drilling the walls of the cave to help international and thai navy divers. bill joins us from in the caves. bill, good morning to you. i know we won't hear news for at least another three hours,

attorney mimi roque keca a msnbc contributor. is this unusual? >> very unusual, and not a speck rule barring it but it could violate the attorney's duty of loyalty -- i'm sorry the attorney's duty of loyalty to the client. remember, alex, michael co-sn not your typical lawyer. most would not do this, but who picked michael cohen as their lawyer? donald trump, and he did it with his eyes wide open. for him to complain now about things that michael cohen did that seem, you know, bordering underhanded or unethical is just really a joke, because he picked michael cohen specifically for that reason. that michael cohen was going to be sort of onboard with things that trump wanted to do that may not have been, you know, on the up and up. >> just to be clear. it is not unusual for an attorney to take notes. right? when speaking way client. writing things down. it's just the audio part of this? >> correct. i'm not saying it was illegal, and i'm not even saying it specifically violated any rule. but i'm sure it's unusual and there probably are arguments th

msnbc contributor joyce vance and former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor charlie savage, washington correspondent for "the new york times" and nbc intelligence and national security reporter ken dilanian and pete williams at the white house. pete, what happened in the pretrial hearing? >> well, it's still going on, andrea. and it's going to be going on later this afternoon on some other issues that paul manafort wants to raise about how much evidence can be admitted about the work he did for ukraine. but today the argument has been for the last hour and a half or so about whether this trial should be delayed. it's scheduled to start on wednesday with jury selection and probably opening statements on friday. but manafort's defense lawyers told judge t.s. ellis just a short time ago that they've been basically overwhelmed, swamped with 120,000 new pages of documents that the government has produced just within the past weeks. much of it from a personal computer, and other storage devices belonging to rick gates, the former mana

it's dropping like a rock. >> msnbc's ali velshi joins me now. he's covered business and finance for years. in layman's terms, walk us through why that is such a big deal. >> okay in layman's terms, the reason we have a federal reserve, the chairman of whose term does not coincide with presidential elections, is so that the decisions made by the federal government on interest rates are not driven by the politics of a given president. they don't coincide with elections. they don't serve political party's needs. which is why the president isn't supposed to get involved with this. because when you move interest rates or you talk about moving interest rates and the president talking about it has now caused the dollar to drop, has caused bond yields to drop, for those of you who have money in savings accounts. and markets have turned down. that actually does move markets. we like to think, by the way, all major democracies do this, we like to think we have a central bank that deliberates and looks at economic data and makes careful decisions about rai

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joining me now is msnbc legal analyst danny savalos. what do you make of this latest are request from the mueller team? >> the mueller teamed subpoenas to social media specialists who had worked with roger stone, so this may just be a continued investigation in that direction. it just so happens that this manhattan madam has a sort of sundried past, but if she was just working for roger stone as a web master or in the commuter sense she may have relevant information about the flow of data to and from roger stone's websites or his business or in some other capacity. if that sense those subpoenas would be consistent with the subpoenas handed to the social media strategist last month or two months ago. we may just be seeing robert mueller marching along and lining up all of the data and all of the people who had access to data even if they might not have had any personal knowledge of what was in that data flowing to and from. >> danny, the other bombshell headline today is the secretly recorded conversation between president trump and his

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msnbc's analyst to join me now. jonathan, take me inside the room, were you surprised by that answer? >> it was certainly one in the history book after president trump decided to say that he sided with u.s. intelligence and their finding and russia was responsible for the 2016 -- that in itself is already a moment in the room, it was sort of electric. and there at the end as you know there is unsubstantial -- of the dossier something to be true and something is not. vladimir putin you heard his answer and he did not exactly deny it. he had some fun with it and he alluded to his past as a member of the kgb earlier in the press conference. the take away here is is -- incredibly and he had the opportunity to defend the united states services and what russia did in 2016 and warned vladimir putin no t t to do it again and did not. excuse the noise here, i have to go a minute or two. >> jonathan, we heard that response and you spoke to many journalists, take me inside the room and the reaction. for us i mean for the presi

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attorney, and our msnbc contributor. msnbc's legal analyst, danny saballo is with me. >> danny, let me start with you of the exchange. >> do you wai don't think you n sanctions. i think we would get along very, very well. >> chuck, is that typical for russian agent? >> well, the russians are very good at this stuff, craig. what you see from russia is rather deliberate and they are patience and butina got caught and so did 12 russian officers that bob mueller's team indicted last week. it is fatherly typicirly typica run. it was candidate trump and not candidate trump. you take a shot at several folks and you see which one is a sin and which one is holding higher office and you build a relationship with them. that seems to be what's going on here. barbara, what kind of asset could she be in asset in terms of our russia interference. >> that's it for the united states, if she could be persuaded to cooperate, she could be an asset for mueller's team. someone at her level, she's been allegedly communicating with a handler in

he's also an msnbc justice and security analyst. matt, the significance of this indictment for this woman, this young woman, who was living here and trying to gain influence within an american political organization, including the nra. >> i think the best way to think of this is as one part of a multifaceted russian campaign to influence the united states policy. and we've seen, you know, through the results of the mueller investigation, their attempts to influence u.s. policy by choosing who the next president would be. this is their attempt to influence u.s. policy by infiltrating the nra and using it to cut vat relationships with u.s. political officials. one of those political officials seemed to have been donald trump. she publicly asked him a question about sanctions early on in the presidential campaign. one seems to be his son, which whom she and alexander tortion, a russian senior official to whom she was reporting, met with in 2016. while this is not directly related to bob mueller's charge of pursuing interference in the

with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, former chairman. republican national committee michael steele and nbc news national plit reporter heidi przbyla is with us. a lot to talk about. quite a late night for everybody watching the big announcement. we'll get to the president's supreme court pick and his nato trip in a moment. first, the gallup pool shows president trump's approval rating slipped into double digit negative territory as 56% disapprove and 41% approve. this just three weeks after trump received the best marks since the first days of his presidency in mid-june only to have his ratings turned back in a negative direction. this was the same time period that his administration's family separation policy at the

and you can look for updates from msnbc. we continue now with our regular programming. i'm aaron gilchrist in new york. >>> hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. "the new york times" today out with a new bombshell report about the president's long-time fix y fixer and former personal attorney michael cohen. the "times" reveals for the very first time that cohen secretly recorded at least one conversation with donald trump and that the fbi now has its hands on it. in the recording, donald trump and michael cohen discuss hush money payments to karen mcdougal. she's a former playboy model who had an alleged affair with trump. the fbi seized the recording of trump and cohen in a raid on cohen's home and offices earlier this year that donald trump

lucky for us, all are msnbc contributors. your tweeter feed increasingly causes me anxiety. >> sorry about that. >> it's good, it's good. keeping it real. what are your biggest worries heading into this summit? >> well, my minimal worry is that president trump just lavishes praise on vladimir putin and forgets about the past. that would be a disaster already. my biggest worry, my bigger worry is that he actually comes through on a lot of these concessions that he's been talking about recently. i mean, you just pointed out he doesn't seem too concerned about their violation of our sovereignty and the 2016 election. he has hinted that he might actually recognize crimea as part of russia. that would be outrageous against the entire government of the united states of america, all of his advisors, against the will of the entire world. and i just hope he doesn't -- he's not somehow tricked into or wants to just dis us all by showing he can do these kinds of concessions, especially if you remember all these concessions he keeps layi

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attorney for the southern district of new york and also an msnbc legal analyst. kelly, what is the white house saying? what is the white house not saying about this? >> not engaging. we just saw the president who had a chance to respond to questions asked by reporters part of the small pool inside the oval office when he was meeting with the european commission president jean-claude juncker and the president did not engage, did not respond, and thanked reporters. after a bit of back and forth of the thanking and no responses, they exited the room. so the white house is pushing everyone to the outside lawyers for the president and rudy giuliani has been saying that this is information that is exculpatory of the president because it did not, in his view, come to a conclusion of a payment being authorized, a decision being made. what you pointed out was the notion that the president didn't seem surprised in the recording, it was almost as if we were picking up a conversation that had been a part of previous

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greg, thanks for joining us. >>> stay with msnbc. director of national intelligence dan coats is going to talk one-on-one with andrea mitchell at the aspen security forum this thursday. be sure to watch that. >>> president trump laying on the praise for vladimir putin. did he hang our european allies out to dry? why russia's claims of victory after the summit could spell bad news for u.s. partnerships around the world. >>> first, former republican and msnbc contributor steve schmidt offering this take last hour on msnbc. >> very, very clear in this administration. you're either on team america or you're on team putin. it's that simple. right? when you look at this situation right now, you have an american president who is doing vladimir putin's bidding. full stop. period. >> we'll be right back. i can do more to lower my a1c. and i can do it with what's already within me. because my body can still make its own insulin. and once-weekly trulicity activates my body to release it. trulicity is not insulin. it comes in a once-weekly, trul

msnbc's garrett haake is inside the room where we'll see house speaker paul ryan any minute now. garrett, set the stage there. do we expect the house speaker to talk about -- i assume he'll talk in some form about what happened in helsinki. do we expect he'll have anything to say in terms of action? >> reporter: yeah, he won't be able to avoid it. it is the question on the minds of all the reporters in the room. it is something ryan addressed yesterday in a paper statement. he said the president needs to understand that russia is not our ally and there can be no moral equivalence between what the united states does and what russia did in terms of meddling in the united states election. the question is, again, as you point out, what, if anything, a republican-controlled congress is willing to do about it. yesterday afternoon, chuck schumer, the democratic leader on the senate side, laid out options. he said congress could try to impose tougher sanctions. they could call the president's advisers before congress to ask them what happened in the bilat and how things in the press conf

i'm dara brown at msnbc world headquarters. it is 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. new reaction from president trump after the fbi releases documents from surveillance quarter page. what they say and why they are being shown to the public. >>> talks of a second meeting between president trump and vladimir putin while we don't know what they discussed this week. >> we were attacked and the president sided with the enemy. he did this in view of the entire world. >>> clearing the air. the story behind this director of the national intelligence. >> we have breaking news. the white house put on twitter vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. >> say that again. >> that is straight ahead on msnbc live. >>> new this morning, details from the just released doj documents showing how investigators justified their surveillance of former trump campaign aide, carter page. it was made public last night after requests from "the new york times" and other outlets. they believe page is the subject of targeted recruitment by the russian government. undermine and influe

it's all coming up on msnbc live. new reaction from the president less than 24 hours before he meets with vladimir putin. here's what he said on his expectations and whether the latest mueller indictment will have impact. >> what is your goal? >> i'll let you know after the meeting. it was mutually agreed let's have a meeting. i don't have any expectations. getting along with russia is a good thing. but i think we're hampered by the witch-hunt going on in the united states, the russian witch-hunt john bolton is saying the indictment will give the president the leverage he needs. >> he was prepared to have it come before the meeting with putin, i would say, in fact, it strengthens his hand. it shows the justice system, the department of justice are aware of these russian efforts at election meddle and i think the president can put it on the table and say this is a serious matter. we need to talk about it. >> but democrats on capitol hill remain skeptical. >> i'd like to know the name of the president john bolton thinks

annie carney from politico, and kimberley atkins, and an msnbc contributor. annie, the border wall is not being built, we fact checked that. the racial slur, the pocahontas thing continues. the u.s. is signatory. i don't know if this has picked up yet. the president criticized the me too movement in his criticism of elizabeth warren. these rallies tend to go off the rails. this one was spectacular. >> it's surprising to hear him bring up the me too movement. the president doesn't have a lot of holding himself back, and it's not a subject that's helpful to him given there are more than half a dozen women who have accused him of sexual misconduct and more. so to hear him bring up that subject when he is part of it, was a surprising turn. the attacks on pocahontas, elizabeth warren's team was probably loving it. i think the democrats are all like waiting for their turn to be trump's pinata that day. and the attacks on the nfl, the white house officials have explained this is his 2020 strategy and mid-term strategy to run on culture wars. that part of it was kind

>> joined now by white house reporter, msnbc jonathan lemire and carol lenning washington reporter. white house in full damage control mode and today's meeting, all hands to walk it back. was that hard to believe i used the wrong word excuse. >> i have to say, think about what a big deal it is for the president to correct himself. he hasn't showed himself to be interested incorrecting his own statements in the past. it was clear that a lot of people laid into him yesterday and today. and we were told at the "washington post" a great team

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i'm alex witt here in new york at msnbc world headquarters, 7:00 a.m. in the east, a quick 4:00 a.m. in the west. protests in helsinki, you are seeing them live where the president will be arriving about seven hours from now. why the world appears to be rallying against the president. what do they want? president trump is hours away from the summit in helsinki with vladimir putin. his objective is still unclear. >> this is the time for the president to stand-up for america. >> what does putin want from the u.s. president? plus, the big question as robert mueller tries to wrap up the investigation. the new report out, were any americans involved? >>> we begin with a protest in helsinki, finland where president trump and putin will meet for their summit. that will be under way in 24 hours from now, precisely. there's more from the president on the significance of this meeting, however stopping short of what he expected from it. here is a clip from the interview this morning. >> what is your goal from the putin meeting? >> i'll let you know after the meeti

she's also an msnbc political contributor. what do you make of oprah's reason for not getting into politics in 2020? >> i think it's one reason why there are some folks, despite the popularity of the idea of an oprah presidential campaign, knew that she wasn't going to do this. this is somebody who has, you know, she's a self-made billionaire, she's perfectly happy running the empire that she has and she frankly doesn't need this job despite the fact that so many people rally around this idea after she gave that very inspiring speech at an award show, talking about the future and it seems people are looking for somebody who is inspirational like that. but i think it could be perilous for democrats to sort of rally around the same kind of reality television-type person that the president is, especially if they want to make the argument, look, we've been having so much chaos because we have somebody who was not experienced at the wheel. we don't want to make that same mistake. i think she knew. frankly has a good life. why would

welcome back our author and msnbc contributor. if i may begin with you, the wide political backlash from president trump's face-to-face with putin, how do you think the russian leader will approach the proposed second meeting? >> it's a really good question. i think right now what we see is the russians have been setting the narrative. the russians have been secretary the pace. the russians have been laying out the battlefield. everything we know about what happened in that meeting has come from the kremlin. oh, we talked about ukraine. oh, we talked about syria. oh, we talked about turning over our political opponents to us so we can put them in prison. all of this is pretty unusual to be happening and the conversation we're so far other than secretary pompeo, we see very little from the u.s. side. we see very few officials saying, no, we're on top of this agenda. we know what we're working towards. the fact that that meeting, that the idea of a second meeting was announced when most of the national security establishment was in

i'm alex witt in msnbc headquarters in new york. rudy giuliani is trying to give new insight for the trump-mueller face-to-face interview. >> it relates basically to the russia collusion thing, which we think there is no evidence and the president didn't do anything wrong, so we don't have much of a problem with it. but the obstruction thing, it's more a question of we don't see the legal basis for the president obstructing by merely taking an action in firing somebody that he had every right to fire and about ten good reasons to fire. >> when are you going to nail this down? >> i think a couple -- maybe this week, maybe next week. >> last time you told us it was july 4th, mr. mayor. >> well, a lot happened since july 4th. >> giuliani also revealing some new details about what may be on the audio recordings from the fbi-seized tapes there from michael cohen's apartment. msnbc's jeff bennett is there for us. jeff, what can you tell us? >> reporter: another sunday brings another round of tv interviews featuring the president's outside

msnbc's mariana atencio is on the front lines of this issue. on tuesday she sat down with a 24-year-old mother from el salvador, maria, who has been separated from her two sons for nearly two months after seeking asylum at the san ysidro port of entry on may 2nd. here is what she told marianna. >> what has happened now? why haven't you gotten your children back? [ speaking in spanish ] "we don't know anything. we don't know if they're going to turn them over to us later. they don't say anything. they just say we have to fill out paperwork. i don't know how long it's going to take." >> joining me now is congressman vicente gonzalez, democrat representing texas and a member of the hispanic congressional caucus. are you seeing any movement at all from what you have been able to discern that these families are being reunited or will be in the very near future? >> well, i'm seeing very little. obviously it's going to be a complex endeavor. we have over 2,000 kids that have been separated. and i hope that they get reunited soon. as you know, we have

msnbc contributor and staff writer for the "atlantic." veteran politics reporter and host of the new faq nyc podcast. evan mcmullin, 2016 independepe candidate. great to have everyone here. after meeting with kim jong-un, the president sent out this tweet, "there is no longer a nuclear threat from north korea." simple, straight to the point. not mincing his words, evan. he really believes that. the u.s. intelligence community telling nbc news and the "washington post" something very different. what's your reaction? >> i think we should be encouraged that the intelligence community is still saying what it actually thinks. and, of course, that's their job to do that. one of my concerns when trump came out after the meeting and said this was a great success, there's no more threat, i have a deal, i struck a deal with kim jong-un, now, then, the intelligence community would be under enormous pressure to sort of report alleged analysis or facts that would support the president's claim which is clearly false. and so we see, though, that the int

thanks for staying here with us on msnbc. i'm alex witt. david will take you through the next two hours. take it away. >> a race against time here. divers beginning the harrowing task of rescuing that soccer team trapped deep inside a cave in thailand. how long will the rescue take and how much time do they have to complete the mission? speaking for the president. >>> rudy giuliani shining new light on if the president will, in fact, answer special counsel robert mueller's questions. >>> and scuttled in diplomacy, new reporting on mike pompeo's odd trip to north korea. a visit that raised some new questions about president trump's assertion that north korea is no longer a nuclear threat. >>> we begin with breaking news in thailand. an operation dubbed d-day by the head of the critical rescue mission there with the eyes of the world watching intently. four members of that soccer team have been rescued. that 12-member squad known as the wild boars and its coach have been trapped for 15 days. the first four boys were seen on facebook today. wr

i'm in new york at msnbc headquarters. prove it, a now report says president trump's attorney is changing up the rules for an interview with special counsel. and new reporting on the migrant parents, the government cannot find as only half of the kids under five are returned to their families. and why divers call the rescue of a soccer team a desperate ordeal amid new concerns about oxygen running out. >> we begin with a new report on the russia investigation as the president's lawyers lay down new rules for a potential interview. the new york sometimes reports rudy giuliani says special counsel needs to prove he has evidence that he committed a crime. joining me now with more is msnbc legal analyst. giuliani wants to know what mueller has in his arsenal against the president. is this a smart legal straty or just a delay tactic? >> the thing is they're notoriously tight fisted about that information and don't give it out ready. the tactic of saying that we will not sit down for an interview unless there's evidence of crimi

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for counterintelligence and msnbc national security analyst. frank, i just want to start by getting your reaction to this tape. we've all heard it now. what's on it, how it ends, et cetera, et cetera. there's at least a dozen more of these things. your reaction to the tape itself and existence of more of them. >> well, i'm not part of the camp that says you can dismiss this tape, there's nothing significant on it. i fully agree that in and of itself there's no evidence of a crime inherent on the little clip that we have, but it clearly speaks to the issue of prior knowledge of the president, that there was a payment scheme going on, there was a comfort level that we hear on this tape, and most importantly, we hear references to cash, finance, check, and creating a company. all of those concepts to an fbi agent, to someone like mueller or the southern district of new york, all smack of possible crime. money laundering. why are you creating a company? why would you need to create a company? have you done this before? the word cash, do you mean yo