he famously said that on roe v. wade he would only nominate judges that would overturn the decision and on the aca he said he would only appoint judges that would quote unquote do the right thing, unlike chief justice roberts on obamacare. while these litmus test style commitment may have been politically sensible for donald trump at the time when he was running in the campaign by 16 we believe they will come back to hot his nominee in the confirmation battle. make no mistake, the future of roe v. wade and the affordable care act will be the defining issues in this confirmation fight. the last week i was another seven asked how can democrats stop the nominee when they don't have a majority in the senate? two that we say it is true, democrats don't have the majority but we do have a majority in the senate on these two issues. there's a majority the believe roe v. wade should not be overturned in majority the believe the formal correction not be gutted. several of the names of the top on trumps list have records on th

roe v. wade. if donald trump and mike pence have their way, millions will lose the right to safe, legal abortion that has been the law of the land for 45 years. hearings, weenate have heard nominees answered these critical and fundamental questions by saying they will respect precedent, but immediately after being sworn in those justices turn around and rule in ways that ignore prece dent and would have eviscerated our fundamental rights had those justices been in the majority. aloney saying precedent can no longer be -- the standard by which senators can accurately judge. plannedwhy today, parenthood and our colleagues at this press conference, are calling for a higher standard. we are calling for a personal liberty standard, that the senate must only confirm a justice who affirmatively declares that they believe the constitution protects individual ht of allnd the righ tof al people to make personal decisions about their bodies and their personal relationships, including the rights to use

susan collins has been safe you want to hear a nominee declare roe to be president and would accord roe status accordingly. that's not enough. neil gorsuch said that roe is precedent and as recently as last month, he sided with the majority in overturning a 41-year-old precedent and the janus case. another example is not an at a paraden roe - yesterday, susan collins says she wants the nominee to declare that roe is the law of the land but we heard that from john robertson in 2005 and he went on in 2016 to join a decision where if he had his way, he would've upheld the antiabortion law out of texas. we are here to warn trumps nominee and till susan collins that calling ro a precedent is not enough, not even close. appointedblican nominees proved these words mean nothing when they get to the bench. we need a supreme court justice who will uphold roe, a supreme court justice that believes women's health in 2016 was rightly decided and one that believes that woman has a right to safe, legal abortions in the specifics wed the want our late at today. in recent days, republicans have been try

>> roe v. wade has been a scare tactic that is gone back 36 years going back to center o'connor's nominationon to the court. thatning is hapappen during period of time. for me it is not about roe v. wade. it is not what it is about. it is about interpretingng the constitution as it is written. basically, interpreting the limits on government power. juan: can you talk about leonard leo, specifically, his role, the reportss that he is a member of the knights of malta, a secret right-wing organization within the catholic church and his role specifically in the vetting of these nominees of the republican president's especially president trump, to the court? >> leonard leo is a very, very conservative guy who sits rate close to the apex of this society network i was just describing. he just knows who everyone is. that is his value to republican presidents is that when you become president, yet to fill literally thousands of jobs. society network i was justthe course of your presiden, additionally hu

does anyone believe that a nominee on that prevetted list doesn't want to challenge roe? how do you think they got to toe on that list? "the federalist" society led by len in order leo, whose -- leonard leo whose goal is to repeal roe v. wade putting it together and trump rubber-stamping it. given what the president has said, it is virtually certain that members of the list of 25 would vote to overturn roe. so let this be a call to action for americans from all corners of the country to rise up and speak out. don't let this new court, this new nominee, whomever he or she may be, turn back the clock on issue after issue or after issue, because president trump has embraced a hard-right group who has a veto power over nominees. don't let us turn back the clock, america. stand up. speak out. democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, all should want a much fairer process. america, tell your senators that if you do not want a supreme court justice who will overturn roe v. wade, those senators should not vote for a candidate from the list. i yield the i want to comment on

what will happen when roe v. wade overturned is that the abortion issue will return to the states, following the principles of federalism and state rights and the states at the local level will be able to talk to their constituents and make their own decision about what is best for their state, regulating abortion, protecting women's health and safety. it is time to stop misleading women about this issue of what happens when roe is overturned. >> dana: want you to look at this ad that the aclu will run in the state of maine targeting senator collins, watch this. >> the trump supreme court nominee must publicly declare a position on roe. tell susan collins that we can't gamble on this. american's nee need to know wher the nominee will protect the right of women to make their own healthcare decisions. >> dana: katherine, when you look to this from a political perspective and counting the votes, right? the republicans have a slim majority. we do not know how anyone will ultimately vote. but we assume that there will

view believedn my happened when the roe versus wade ruling occurred. host: let me get your reaction publicrrent snapshot of opinion on the issue of abortion. a quinnipiac poll from last week ad they great that there's small gender gap is american voters agreed 63% to 31% with the supreme court roe versus wade decision. man, 61 percent to 32% while women agree 65% to 32%. the quinnipiac poll five republicans disagree with roe v wade 58% 36%. guest: i think you can see that change over the couple of months. a lot of polls including the poll we released today from the terrorist group that says the american people prefer state legislatures to decide abortion law over the supreme court. vast majorities agreement that. aware inpublic becomes these hearings that is exactly what road disallowed roe versus wade and its decision disallowed state legislatures from enacting their own will in the law then we will see a correction of understanding. it's understandable that there would be a sense that the only thing roe did was to make abortion illegal in the nation.

upheld.o see roe v wade upheld.see roe v wade , do believe roe v wade . host: just talk to your tv. i can hear you. -- caller: i do believe that will give you a chance to turn down your television. we will go to ohio, the line for democrats. go ahead. caller: good morning. how are you? host: doing well. caller: there are two points i want to make. i have been listening of -- to -- the last time we did that, we call that the civil war. , i do not roe v wade think it is going to be overturned. is based onn law this. they might whittle around it like they did with maranda. [indiscernible] the bare-bones of the law have not been changed and there was one other thing i wanted to comment about. i do know how things are in maryland. i'm a democrat. parenthood does not take -- d'e government of any kind. from theoss the street hospital, two blocks away from the university of cincinnati, a level one hospital. we don't have those kinds of concerns. our concern is making sure that -- mother and father and dr. make their choice. host: do you think justice roberts, the -- as the head of the supr

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court were to support roe v. wade that it will be the question of the regulation of abortion sent back to the states, where we think it belongs. it are to be subject to political forces, the legislators and different states ought to be subject to accountability, to the people back home on an issue. an issue so important and so intensely felt. host: it could be going back to states. guest: 10 states would have restrictions on abortion before 20 weeks. only 10. -- 18 would continue to have abortion on demand. and in the middle you would have states where it is up for grabs. there would be a lot of litigation and intense debate in the state house but we welcome debate. thehink that is what constitution spells out for an issue as closely and intensely felt, passionately, by the people. aden is our guest. his website, you could see more work on the justice brett kavanaugh. from florida, muriel, go ahead. -- come caller: good morning. years ago, when they had this, people used hangers. today there is so much protection

roe v. wade being overturned. here's what he told my colleague chuck todd in an interview airing later this morning. >> one of the concepts that really means a lot in america is story decsis, which means you don't overturn precedent unless there's a good reason. roe v. wade in many different ways has been affirmed over the years. >> jonathan, your takeaways from "the washington post" article on this so-called gorsuch playbook. president trump is using it to pick the next supreme court justice. >> well, first of all, because neil gorsuch got confirmed, if i were at the white house, i would also be talking about using the gorsuch playbook. i think you've got different dynamics now. we've obviously seen the president in office for a lot longer at this point. we've seen gorsuch on the bench. you've got republican moderates who are very concerned about the possible change, not only on roe v. wade, but on other issues, where, you know, when you saw gorsuch come in for scalia, that didn't change th

. >> roe v. wade in many different ways has been affirmed over the years. >> mentime, a call for change. but how far is too far? will demanding the abolishment of i.c.e. backfire on democrats? >>> and new reaction from capitol hill amid renewed concerns that whoever gets chose on the replace justice kennedy could move to roe v. wade being overturned. senator collins met with trump and she says she told the president to broaden his list of 25 candidates, and in a new interview today, says she already knows how she would vote on at least one of them. >> some of the people i have not vetted at all at this point. one of them i voted against years ago. i would not support a nominee who demonstrated hostility to roe v. wade, because that would mean to me that their judicial philosophy did not include a respect for established decisions, established law. and i believe that that is a very important, fundamental tenant of our judicial system, which as chief justice roberts says, helps to promote stability

president trump has repeatedly said that he believes roe was wrongly decided. he has promised in his own words to nominate only pro-life judges, whose selection will result in the automatic overturning of roe v. wade. those are his words. pro-life judges, automatic. he also said that chief justice roberts has been an absolute disaster, his words, for voting to uphold the healthcare law and said his judicial appointments will, quote, do the right thing, unlike bush's appointee john roberts on obama care, unquote. it is near impossible to imagine that president trump would select a nominee who isn't hostile to our healthcare law and healthcare for millions and millions and millions of americans, who isn't hostile to a woman's freedom to make her own healthcare decisions. :: that would reverse trophy way. he, himself, bent his career in pursuit of it and that is not just my view. according to edward weiland, one of the most prominent legal conservative activists and scholars and bloggers said quote, no one has been more dedicated to the enterprise of building a su

roe v. wade. >> a warning shot from one of the republicans critical to confirming the next supreme court just. susan collins wants precedented perspective for a woman's right to choose. >>> and lebron goes hollywood. the nba superstar signs a four-year deal with the lakers. i expect lebron to be its own sign there next to the hollywood sign. good morning, everyone. welcome to "early start." a parade for lebron's arrival in l.a. >> it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. let's begin with this. breaking overnight upheaval in mexico. winning the mexican presidency in a landslide, and he will be the country's first leftist president. the the former mexico city mayor triumphed against the two parties that have ruled mexico city for nearly a century. >> after the victory lopez obrador vowed to seek friendship with the united states with the quote always rooted in mutual respect and in defense of our migrant countrymen. >> reporter: what many are calling a revolution for this country. you see people pouring i

versus wade and that's clarence thomas and he is willing to overturn roe versus wade the other eight are not on the seven plus now this nominee are not on the record we can speculate about it one of the questions is going to be what will the challenge be and this goes back to part of why kavanagh was attractive to conservatives attractive to the trump white house attractive to senate republicans and that is it's not about political preferences it's not about the outcome that you want it's not about a judge acting as a legislator or it is about textualism and originalism these are two terms that mean a lot in conservative legal circles and they have been gaining mostly because of the legacy and the lifetime of service of antonin scalia textualism refers to looking at statues as sandy mentioned earlier looking at the actual language what is the language of the last say and interpret ing it very specifically originalism looks at the intent of the founders at the time the constitution was written and so if you are an originalist and you are a textualist you look at those two things and y

there's just no reason at all to think that he would be a fifth vote to keep roe versus wade. and i think anybody who believes otherwise anybody who takes seriously what judge kavanagh will undoubtedly say that he has great respect for president for precedent of for earlier this is in the court i think that's really quite nonsensical because the fact is that both liberal and conservative justices are quite happy to overrule past decisions they think were wrongly decided and i would be astonished if judge kavanagh did not believe that roe was wrongly decided to matthew do you agree with that i mean he has said that he will preserve the constitution and the american rule of law but do not believe in then. i happened to catch a rebroadcast of his confirmation hearing to the d.c. circuit court when it aired on c.-span late last night here in the united states and in that hearing he did confirm that roe versus wade is the law of the land and the precedent matters and he said precedent matters last night when he was unveiled as the nominee i don't have don't share the confidence of

roe v. wade. i think what he meant by that was that he will appoint pro life justices who will overturn roe v. wade. i think that's what's going to happen. >> he stated that very clearly. >> very clearly. >> it was a litmus test. >> that's right. and i think, you know, there are subtle differences between judge hardiman who serves on the third circuit court of appeals based in philadelphia and judge kavanaugh who serves in the d.c. circuit, but they were picked. remember, this was a group of 25 judges picked by the federalist society, the conservative legal organization because they are not justice kennedy. because they are not the kind of republicans who will commit the sin of moderation on abortion rights. on gay rights. on affirmative action. on the death penalty. areas where justice kennedy usually conservative voted with the liberals. i think we just need to be realistic and accurate about understanding what the stakes are here. >> in terms of the record of both the two men who right no

the rights of choice at the state level right now and so if roe is overturned or sufficiently cut back it is fair to say that many many states will take action on that and and that will be an interesting battle that we will have that will really define the political landscape for the next five to ten years would we be chaos today that is california allows abortion in mississippi doesn't. it would be and this is exactly how this is going to proceed sort of chris's point larry it's not that the supreme court in the united states can just decide we're going to bring up roe v wade and take a vote on whether to overturn it what will happen when cavanagh gets confirmed is this the pro-life advocacy groups will identify they will target one or two states across the country where they believe they have the greatest success at the state level to restrict or prohibit abortion perhaps across the board or in very specific cases that will then become the test that gets litigated at the state and at the federal level but beginning at the district level at the state moving its way all the way to the

chris: even if roe v. wade no one is suggesting that women will be arrested, it would go back to states, i'm not saying it's not a big deal but nobody suggesting that women would be arrested if roe v wade would be overturned. >> the basic issue at hand is whether or not a woman has the power to make decisions, the freedom to make decisions regarding her own body and own life. that's the fundamental issue here and when you start denying that to women across america, those are fighting words because these women believe that they have the right to make this decision, those on the other side disagree, fundamental principle. chris: to have any chance to win, you not only are going to have to pick off at least one of the republican senators and we talked about the two republican pro-choice women senators, collins and murkowski, you will also keep 49 of your democrats on board and the fact is during the gorsuch nomination president trump's nomination of nile gorsuch last year three red state democrats up for reel

roe v. wade. >> i'm not going to ask that question, but it is a group of mostly conservative judges. >> i would love president trump to pick somebody to hold up precedent. >>> this is "new day" with allison c alisyn camerota and john berman. >> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the wor this is "new day," it is monday, july 2nd. how'd that happen? 6:00 here in new york. john avlon joins us this morning, great to have you here. i'm back from a week off of vacation. anything i missed? >> nothing at all. nothing at all. nothing to. >>> mexico elected their presidential candidate. she riding a populist to become the country's next leader. so how will he deal with president trump. the trump administration drafted a bill to give president trump sweeping power on trade. he can abandon key rules and raise u.s. tariffs at will. >> so it's intentionally controversial, unintentionally comedic. antho a what we're seeing with the resulted in mexico, these are cracks in the int

has -- his goal of life is to get a supreme court to repeal roe. does anyone think anyone of those names including judge kavanaugh would protect roe? they wouldn't be on the list if they were. you know that. i know that. the president knows it. the american people are going to learn it. kavanaughat judge argued. that the trump administration should keep a young woman ended tension and allow them, allow her to make her own choice but medical care, and amazingly he said the courts should consider a constitutional challenge to the health care law, the affordable care act and openly criticized the supreme court thesion to uphold affordable care act. president trump had litmus tests. president trump had litmus tests . judge kavanaugh's rulings don't stop in those places. he is evening -- he has even argued sitting presidents should .ot face criminal investigation no investigation of a president. is it any wonder president trump chose kavanaugh, when we know he was obsessed with this investigation? a president doesn't have to follow a law if the presiden

roe v. wade, health care, democracy itself. it is now my great honor to introduce a champion for all our rights, kiersten gillibrand. >> everyone here knows what is at stake. woman here knows what is at stake. what is at stake is women's freedom. our freedom to make our own decisions, our freedom to decide when and how many children we are going to have. what is at stake is freedom for lgbtq americans, equal rights, civil rights, voting rights. all the values. president trump did exactly what he said he would do. he has avoided some -- he has nominated someone who will not protect a woman's right to make decisions about her life, health care, and reproductive freedom. neil gorsuch should not become the next justice of the supreme court. what will take as all of us fighting as hard and long as we can. our voices, our stories will make the difference in this nomination. we should do everything we can to fight back. never give up, never given. it's about our values, it's about our country, it's about the history of this nation and

that was to actually overturn roe v wade. so we believe him. he's got a vice president whose on the - - of history. we think that's the mindset many americans are going into this with because is of such a vocal talking point for him. we also know the backpedaling happening now from people have long been critics of roe v wade is personally because they know what we know is most american people, regardless of how they feel personally about abortion, believe that legal access is core to our country. >>dana: i have some poles. public opinion has shifted since 1973. it's been 45 years. 67 percent of americans say they do not want to see roe v wade overturned the other is variations. another poll says 50percent sho saying it should be legal under certain circumstances. with 60 percent thing some restrictions. how do you plan to go forward and is it a situation where you let the states decide if there is this public opinion change? >> i'm from texas so i'm very familiar with what happens when the state decides. similar to other freedoms and protection

leonard leo's goal in life is to repeal roe. he comes up with a list. you think you put any slackers in his opinion on that list? no. judge kavanagh got the nomination not because he will be an impartial judge on behalf of all americans, but because he passed president trump's litmus freedomrepeal women's for their reproductive rights, repeal america's health care including protection of pre-existing conditions. if judge kavanaugh was to be can confirmed, women's reproductive rights would be in the hands of five men on the supreme court. women or menat the of america want. judge kavanaugh's own writings make clear that he would rule gets reproductive rights and freedoms and that he would welcome challenges to the constitutionality of the affordable care act of our health care act. judge kavanaugh has argued that the supreme court should question the constitutionality of the affordable care act. he openly criticized the supreme court when they upheld the law. he is no neutral arbiter. he has already made up his mind. he would not have been approved by th

leo, democrats are making roe v. wade, a woman's right to abortion the central issue in the campaign and the confirmation battle. you call that a scare tactic the democrats have used for more than 30 years, but i want to play an exchange that i had with candidate trump in the third presidential debate, here it is. >> you just said you want to see the court protect the second amendment, do you want to see the court overturn roe v. wade? >> if we put another two or perhaps three justices on, that's what will happen and that will happen automatically in my opinion because i am putting pro putting pro-life justices on the court. >> chris: given that, isn't roe v. wade on the line with this nomination? >> mr. leo: the fact of the matter is that roe v. wade is a very major precedent in america and for 36 years people have been talking about it being overturned. it was an issue with sandra o'connor, david souter, anthony kennedy, all of whom people would set would overturn roe v wright. nobody is pretty good x speculating a

you say roe is settled law. given the president's comments, is it fair to expect that any nominee he selects will vote to overturn roe v wade? >> the president told me in our meeting that he would not ask that question. that is what he has most recently said on the advice of his attorney. i think what he said as a candidate may not have been informed by the legal advice that he now has that it would be inappropriate for him to ask a nominee how he or she would rule on a specific issue. >> with all due respect, the supreme court overturns its own rulings all the time. it's overruled 200 of its own decisions. once just last week. it is stated goal of president trump and vice president pence to appoint supreme court justices who will vote to overturn roe versus wade. it's a stated goal. take a listen to vice president pence. this is him campaigning in 2016. >> we appoint strict constructionists to have the supreme court of the united states as donald trump will do. i believe we will see roe v wade consigned to the

roe v. wade, health care, democracy itself. thank you. it's now my great honor to introduce a champion, a , mpion for all our rights kirsten gillibrand. [cheers and applause] ms. gillibrand: everyone here knows what is at stake. everyone here knows what is at stake. what is at stake is women's freedom. our freedom to make our own decisions. our freedom to decide when and how many children we are going to have. what's at stake is freedom for lgbtq americans, for equal rights, for civil rights, for voting rights, for clean air, clean water, for all the values you hold most dear. president trump did exactly what he said he was going to do. he has appointed someone who will not protect a woman's right to make decisions about her life, her health care, her reproductive freedom. this must not become the next justice on the supreme court. what that will take is all of us fighting as hard, as long as we can. [cheers and applause] our voices, our voices, our stories are what will make the difference in this nomination. we could do everything we ca

trump wants a woman to help overturn roe v. wade because it would look bad if a bunch of conservative men did it. well that argues in support of judge barrett. i don't know that is the case. i don't know that he is motivated by that issue the way some suspect or ascribe to him. he was never a opponent of abortion when he was the developer in new york city. right. one more if we have time. think we do. trump will appoint a woman. obama appointed two. we know that trump has obama envy and wants to try to replicate anything done during obama tenure. that may be the winner. folks, find me on social media. i'll see you next week. peloton. let's go grab a couple thousand friends and chase each other up a hill. let's go make a personal best, then beat it with your personal better than best. let's go bring the world's best instructors right to you. better yet, let's go bring the entire new york studio - live. let's go anytime, anywhere, with anyone who's willing. and let's go do it all right here. ready to go? peloton. we do whatever i

whether you consider roe v. wade or affordable healthcare, marriage equality, voting rights, so much more, i've never seen so much at stake with just one seat. unlike said republicans have mounted an unprecedented, shameful blockade of chief judge garland to the court. we democrats actually take our constitutional obligation seriously. i'm going to withhold my consent for this nominee or any of the nominee who seeks to reverse 45 years of settled law protecting of women's right to make her own health decisions, who intends to strip away insurance protection for millions of americans with pre-existing additions, who sides with powerful over hard-working americans, for anyone who believes, shares the presidents believe that the courts or extension of the presidents power, not a check against it. so the course aspiration, after all, is to apply equal justice under law. that's what it says over the front doors. that's what -- [inaudible] and that's what this nominee has yet to prove. i see our leader here so i will

i don't think roe v. wade is going to go away even if the chief justice did vote with the other conservatives. >> dana: why is that? >> it will devolve to the states. if you abolish roe v. wade, abortion is not unlawful. there will be 50 different abortion laws because we have 50 different states. >> dana: i imagine the proabortion rights groups. pro-choice groups say that's not good enough. women who live in a state like mississippi might restrict would not be the same as everywhere. >> that is their argument. counter advocacy groups get those women where they can have abortions. i'm not going to advertise this because i'm pro-life. come to new jersey, abortion is lawful up to the moment of birth and the state will pay for it if you can't afford it even if they don't live. >> dana: pay for a person to come. >> yes, yes. have you wacky progressive laws out there that will allay the anxieties of those who think that judge, fill in the blank, whoever the president is going to nominate is going to invalidate

do you want the next justice to uphold or overturn roe. two to one, uphold roe. but the democrats say you better find a way to put this off until after the midterms. that's their only chance, they are trying to say. voters now not seeing it that way necessarily. an interesting split there in our poll numbers. again, on that question of the supreme court we have been saying and all eyes on the republican senators lisa murkowski from alaska and susan collins from maine. the white house and senators on both sides trying to win over those two lawmakers ahead of the president's supreme court announcement on monday. both key swing votes. republicans have a very slim margin here on abortion rights. advocates are turning up the heat on collins in particular. the national abortion rights action league launched its first supreme court ad campaign in maine targeting her. it reads trump has been loud and clear saying he'd pick supreme court justices to end roe v. wade. we believe him. don't you, senator collins? for more on this, let's go to the state of maine. vaughn hillia

the year after he wrote the opinion in roe v. wade. i've argued cases in this building, four of them. i have deep respect, in fact, reverence, for the united states supreme court as a central pillar of our democracy. to speak truth to the powers across the street and down pennsylvania avenue. ,o i'm here with sadness to say judge kavanagh, you don't belong in this building as a justice. judge kavanagh, you should not be serving in this building as a supreme court justice. because you have demonstrated an extraordinary hostility to the rights and liberties, precious in this country tarkic -- that make this nation great. so here is a memo to the parkland students. if you care about commonsense gun violence protection, judge kavanagh is your worst nightmare. if you want background checks or a ban on assault weapons, or any of the other commonsense, sensible measures that we have in connecticut or california or new york, judge kavanagh will strike them down. that's in his record. it's indisputable. is the worst nightmare of advocates for c

no one has been more dedicated to overturning roe v. wade than the very man who chose the list of 25. that's what we're up against here. and that's why america is on te tenter hooks, so worried about any choice from this list. let me repeat again. mr. leonard leo is the man who assembled trump's list of potential supreme court nominees and no one, no one, has been more dedicated to overturning roe v. wade than leonard leo. now, normally in the senate, we have a process of advise and consent on the supreme court. in the old days, the president would consult with republicans and democrats in the senate on a qualified judge. and then after careful deliberation, nominated jurists that could get bipartisan support. what we have here is the exact opposite. the president has gone to two far out of the mainstream, hard-right groups, the heritage foundation and the federalist society, and asked them, not the senate, to advise and consent on a supreme court nomination. whomever the president selects tonight, if that nominee is from the preapprove

had he been confirmed to the supreme court, roe v. wade what have been overturned, or at least that -- at least that's what he said. liberals remember that they know how important it is, they may not have the power to stop it that it will be front and center. will the nomination of amy barrett make it more difficult for democrats? because of her life story? sense it will be, in some . the fact that she is a will and probably help. younger, had less experience, can be gone after that way, and some of the things she has said as an academic make it clear that she is morally opposed to the -- to abortion and strongly suggest that she views roe v. wade is wrongly decided erie the other potential --inee is judge kavanagh, decided. the other potential nominee, judge kavanagh, has evidence similar but there is less. host: we talked about the republican senators from maine and alaska. on the democratic hide, who are you keeping an eye on? guest: the ones that voted for judge gorsuch. all of whom have already met with president trump. joe manch

trump wants a woman to help overturn roe v. wade because it would look bad if a bunch of conservative men did it. well, that argues in support of judge barrett. i don't know that that's the case. i don't know that he really is motivated by that issue the way that some suspect or ascribe to him. i mean he was never, you know, a virulent opponent of abortion when he was the developer in new york city, right? one more if we have time. think we do. let's to it. trump will appoint a woman. obama's appointed two. we know that trump has obama-envy and wants to try to replicate anything done during obama's tenure. that may be the winner. folks, find me on social media. i will see you next week. ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ crisp leaves of lettuce. freshly made dressing. clean food that looks this good. delivered to your desk. now delivering to home or office. panera. food as it should be. rewards me basically aeverywhere.om panera. so why am i sliding into thi

let me begin on roe v. wade. if that is the litmus test for at least two republican senators and the majority of democrats, are there any names mentioned that are red flags? carrie: i don't think we know how any of them would necessarily vote. this issue comes back. it is a scare tactic going back to the 1980's. justice o'connor was the vote they were worried would overturn roe v. wade, justice kennedy, justice souter. all those ironically for the same three devoted to uphold roe v. wade, so speculating what anyone would do is very difficult. even i know judge barrett is one people think has more out there than others. i was watching a recent video. she said this is not the way to look at a judge at all. judges are not saying here is a case i want to overturn. here is how i'm going to do this. they are supposed to be looking at the law, look at the facts of the case, and decide based on the text of the law and text of the constitution says. any of these top three we are looking at is going to do that. at the end

that's what roe v. wade now stands for. because to some degree it is the least protected right in the lexicon at this point. so i also suggest that we're not -- it's really more than roe v. wade although that's what this discussion is about. the next supreme court is going to have to deal with issues of presidential power. if the mueller investigation winds up challenging the president, there's going to be issues of presidential power in addition to affirmative action, et cetera. so it is a complicated -- it's a much more complicated discussion. >> yeah. irin cameraon, nancy gertner, and leon wolfe, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate. >> thanks, chris. >> coming up, the resistance shows no signs of slowing down as the as the trump administration replaces family separation with indefinite detention. new reporting ahead. plus, "all in" book club in tonight's thing 1, thing 2. next. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits... ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you

but none of them have ruled on roe vs wade specifically. and i think, she is saying what she is saying. but at the end, we are going to get another neil gorsuch type, someone with that background. and hopefully senator collins will support them. or her. and if not, you know, it is a decision that she will make. i think we are going to get two or three democrats yet again. >> harris: interesting. you mentioned those ten states were senators are up for grabs if you will, and some of the states where the seats are. i should say. here in new york, everybody sees that at the bottom of the screen. when i see that, they think, that is a liberal area of the country. you are republican there. tell me what you think some of the big court issues will be moving forward. >> well, we are going to continue to see some attorney generals and others across this country, whether it is hawaii or the state of washington or california, bring absurd races like the travel ban, where we have appellate courts, or the circuit out in the california area where judges r

that roe v. wade was the biggest part of the litmus test. we can call it that because trump did during the campaign. >> see you in two hours, my friend. i'm don lemon. president trump announces his pick to replace anthony kennedy on the supreme court. >> it is my honor and privilege to announce that i will nominate judge brett kavanaugh to the united states supreme court. >> but fasten your seat belts because this is just the beginning. it's only the beginning. those who are familiar with kavanaugh are calling him, quote, an unrelenting, unapologetic defender of presidential power, some of what we just discussed there. so what will his nomination mean for the russia investigation? get ready for a battle. that's going to last all summer. tens of millions of dollars spent. rallies, marches, protesters and counterprotesters outside right now. one gop operative telling cnn, quote, we're prepared for an all-out war. there is a lot to discuss right now. gloria borger and dana bash are in washington. mi

amy barrett has said she thought roe versus wade was erroneously decided. of course ruth bader ginsburg has said she thought the supreme court should not have decided roe, it froze in place a movement to strike down abortion limitations on their own and the decision galvanized public opposition going on for 45 years. so roe has been controversial both by people who support and oppose abortion rights but i think they are all pretty consistent here in terms of judicial philosophy. that's why they are on the list. >> all right, nbc's pete williams and kasie hunt, the president set to make this announcement a week from now. thank you for joining us. a legal affairs correspondent for national public radio joins us now and john pothorse the. thanks for being with us. let me start with you and pick up the point that kasie was making. there is this strategic argument i think you're hearing from maybe folks on the right saying the idea of putting amy barrett on the court, that if roe is going to be overturned and conservative court would overturn roe maybe there is