interesting timing from tom watson on this. clearly, jeremy corbyn hopes that his article yesterday might try to calm the argument will stop if anything, it seems to have inflamed it still further. we now have an absolute broadside from jeremy corbyn‘s own deputy. this is becoming quite damaging to the party. it is. tom watson and jeremy corbyn have had their differences and that is no secret. having a seniorfigure like tom and that is no secret. having a senior figure like tom watson calling for a essentially a com pletely calling for a essentially a completely different strategy that jeremy corbyn is outlining. he had the opportunity in the article he wrote yesterday to say we will adopt this definition in full, including all of the examples. he stopped short of that. here we have tom watson saying no, that is what you should do. we have had other members of the shadow cabinet suggesting the same to simply put an end to this. there is a view clearly among senior labourfigures there is a view clearly among senior labour figu

but tom watson is trying to address that. further inside, one of the quotes,, "i frequently had difficult conversations with both margaret and ian but what i understand is that your critics are not your enemy is on an issue that is so dear to them, i think people are very, very concerned that these investigations should be dropped". it seems the most obvious thing to do. s margaret hodge doesn't even know what she has been accused of. ——s margaret hodge. it happens all the time, people have robust conversations in parties. as it mean you should have a disciplinary charge? labour has refused to accept all of the examples. there are extremely highly respected, knighted, jewish lawyers who have come out and said there is a problem with the examples, certainly. but it could suppress legitimate criticism of israel. if i werejeremy corbyn or pa rt israel. if i werejeremy corbyn or part of the inner circle, i would give this general —— gift this example and get them to come back and ask how it should be adjusted so we can st

tom watson says they should include all of those examples. we did askjeremy corbyn‘s office and jeremy corbyn himself to respond to tom watson's comments today and they we re tom watson's comments today and they were unwilling to do so. but we do have this video published by the labour party ofjeremy corbyn, sent directly to labour party members and in itjeremy corbyn said anyone who uses anti—semitic poison, need to know they do so not in his name or the name of the labour party. and anyone who denies anti—semitism has emerged within the labour party is actually wrong, in his words, and he says are contributing to the problem. why is this row causing so much damage to the labour party givenjeremy corbyn has said, it in his view, the changes still capture the essence of the international definition, even if they don't use they exact words? the issue is around the fact that many within the jewish community, and indeed many labourmps, jewish community, and indeed many labour mps, jewish labour mps and those who are notjewish, don't act se

watson has come out and i'm glad tom watson has come out and said he's said in the strongest language, and maybe this is a wake—up call. language, and maybe this is a wake-up call. well, my view is that there is politicking probably at play, but would jeremy corbyn have allowed any other accusations of racism about any other ethnic or religious group to go on for so long? it's kind of gone to another level in the last few months. this isn't a new thing. since he's become leader, these accusations have dogged him for the end he hasn't dealt with it. he came out with a statement in the guardian earlier today, which i thought was, it stopped short of being an apology. and widely criticised in manyjewish people. not alljewish people and widely criticised in manyjewish people. not all jewish people feel like this, i have to say. i had a meeting with quite a lot of labour supporters who are jewish at portcullis house last week, dogs but people feel very strongly. we saw that big demonstration at westminster. but i still think we have to distinguish between the politicking and the genuine

this might prove difficult when you havejeremy corbyn‘s second—in—command tom watson, talking to the guardian this morning saying the party is at risk of disappearing into a vortex of eternal shame and embarrassment over this issue. there is a danger the party might render itself unfit for office. tom watson's issue is around the rules that labour has recently adopted, surrounding how it deals with anti—semitic conduct. while they did adopt the internationally accepted definition of anti—semitism, they didn't include oi’ anti—semitism, they didn't include or change four examples of what anti—semitic conduct should look like. we did ask bothjeremy corbyn‘s office and jeremy corbyn himself to respond to tom watson's comments today. they were not willing to do so. but we have had this video published by the labour party ofjeremy corbyn and it was sent direct to labour party members. ina sent direct to labour party members. in ajeremy sent direct to labour party members. in a jeremy corbyn says anybody who uses anti—semitic poison needs to know they do so not in his name or

tom watson has given an interview to the observer newspaper. our political correspondent laila nathoo is with me. and intervention from the deputy leader. this is difficult forjeremy corbyn, the comments from tom watson is strong, saying the party has to look at itself over divisions on the issue and weighs into the argument on the code of conduct which many mps and campaigners want to include all examples of anti—semitic behaviour as outlined in the international definition and tom watson said they should be incorporated and jeremy corbyn said they are addressed elsewhere in the guidelines and consultation is still open over the code. tom watson wants disciplinary action over two party mps who clashed to be dropped, something that raised the tension over this issue further. the timing of the comments, it comes a day afterjeremy corbyn tried to reach out to the jewish afterjeremy corbyn tried to reach out to thejewish community in an article in which he tries to reassure, promising to root out anti—semitism in his party and there are alread

there are some pretty strong language with this interview from tom watson. he warns that the party is in danger of rendering itself unfit for government over the anti—semitism issue. he says it risks disappearing into a vortex of eternal shame and embarrassment. he called for the party to adopt the full internationally accepted of anti—semitism, including all of the exa m ples of anti—semitism, including all of the examples of what constitutes anti—semitic behaviour. this is something the labour party up until now have not done. the statement released by the labour leader, sent to party members this lunchtime, does not address that issue. there is some pretty strong language from jeremy corbyn, calling anti—semitism poison and seeing that anybody with the labour party who uses anti—semitic language needs to understand the do not do it in his name or in the name of the party. he says, you are not supporters. he said that anyone who denies anti—semitism is an issue in the party is contributing to the problem. we have asked for that video. we have

many people will see the comments from tom watson as an attempt to undermine jeremy comments from tom watson as an attempt to underminejeremy corbyn. there is no doubt that the pressure on him will continue to grow. thank you. portuguese firefighters in the algarve are struggling to bring wildfires under control, as the southern european heatwave continues. temperatures have climbed to 46 degrees celsius, approaching the all—time european record. fire warnings have been issued across the iberian peninsula, as chi chi izundu reports. portugal — the latest country battling wildfire. some 700 firefighters are still tried to stop flames taking further hold of a eucalyptus forest near the town of monchique in the algarve. water—dropping aircraft have been assisting them as well as over 100 fire trucks. already, more than 1,000 hectares of land has been destroyed and one village has been forced to evacuate. how far were the flames? it was about 500 metres from our kitchen. the terrain is difficult to access and conditions have been tough. high winds, dry land and record temperatures.

he has not however responded to a call from his deputy, tom watson, for labour to adopt the full definition of anti—semitism as set out by the international holocaust remembrance alliance. vicki young reports. reporter: mr corbyn, when will you do enough for thejewish community to be happy with the labour party? he's not answering questions, but jeremy corbyn‘s under growing pressure to do something to prove he's taking the issue of anti—semitism seriously. mr corbyn‘s refused several requests for interviews. instead, the labour party filmed this message in which he says sorry for the hurt caused to manyjewish people. people who use anti—semitic poison need to understand, you do not do it in my name or the name of my party. you are not our supporters. and anyone who denies that this has surfaced in our party is clearly actually wrong and contributing to the problem. all: shame on you! jewish groups are angry about the internationally recognised definition of anti—semitism that the labour party has decided to adopt in its code of conduct because it doesn't include all of the exam

tom watson is doing it in the papers. it's astonishing. he hasn't just wanted jeremy corbyn and said let's have a chat about this. he's doing it in the observer. jeremy corbyn‘s supporters that he wrote that article in the guardian this weekend, trying to draw a line under the whole thing. he hasn't. he hoped to draw a line under it but it's been widely criticised and it was not an apology really. this interview really speaks to his frustration. to use this very strong language of eternal shame. and also to say drop these two disciplinary enquiries into margaret hodge and ian austin, who are both been very criticaljeremy corbyn, ian austin, who are both been very critical jeremy corbyn, and ian austin, who are both been very criticaljeremy corbyn, and adopt this definition, the root cause of all this row, just do it. he's the deputy leader. presumably he's already gone to jeremy corbyn and i'iow already gone to jeremy corbyn and now was going public to say this is what i want. it's such a disaster, he wants it to be known he thinks he sh

this little one of tom watson has been talking in the 0bserver tom watson has been talking in the observer today about what he calls the eternal shame by the anti—semitism. we have been talking to our correspondence in washington about that, sorry, in westminster about that, sorry, in westminster about that. this picture, not britney spears, however she was performing in brighton last night. blot of revellers at brighton pride yesterday. a lot of trouble at the railway station when it was closed. we were showing pictures of the queues. and the nhs has been told, give trans— patients equal access to fertility services. we will look at that more later on in the show. the front page of the sunday express. we have been reporting live this morning and missing midwife, body found. police searching for the missing midwife found a woman's body yesterday. police officers were looking in an area, had disused quarry ten miles from the hospital where she worked when they announced the discovery yesterday and shortly afterwards, a 32—year—old man who was previously arrested was detained on susp

some will see the comments from tom watson today as an attempt to underminejeremy watson today as an attempt to undermine jeremy corbyn. certainly it will put more pressure on him over this issue. liam fox has said britain is on course for a no—deal brexit. that has sent shock waves through westminster, hasn't it? he blames what he calls the intransigence of the european commission and their chief negotiator, michel barnier. to some extent, liam fox is really on message here. we have had the foreign secretary jeremy message here. we have had the foreign secretaryjeremy hunt in europe this week talking about the risk of stumbling into no deal by accident. that is really also warning in that european leaders. pa rt warning in that european leaders. part of the strategy really is to persuade the eu that no deal would be just as persuade the eu that no deal would bejust as bad persuade the eu that no deal would be just as bad for them as it would be just as bad for them as it would be for britain. liam fox says today that if that message read a meeting around europe, then britain's neg

has not responded to a call from his deputy, tom watson, to adopt the full definition of anti—semitism as established by the holocaust lives. reporter: mr corbyn, when will you do enough for thejewish community to be happy with the labour party? he's not answering questions, but jeremy corbyn‘s under growing pressure to do something to prove he's taking the issue of anti—semitism seriously. mr corbyn‘s refused several requests for interviews. instead, the labour party filmed this message in which he says sorry for the hurt caused to manyjewish people. people who use anti—semitic poison need to understand, you do not do it in my name or the name of my party. you are not our supporters. and anyone who denies that this has surfaced in our party is clearly actually wrong and contributing to the problem. all: shame on you! jewish groups are angry about the internationally recognised definition of anti—semitism that the labour party has decided to adopt in its code of conduct because it doesn't include all of the examples that come with it spelling out anti—semitic behaviour. lab

many people will see the comments from tom watson as an attempt to undermine jeremy corbyn. there is no doubt that the pressure on him over this issue will continue to grow. police in london have launched a murder investigation after a man in his twenties was stabbed to death in kingston—upon—thames last night. the man was found in cambridge gardens and was pronounced dead at the scene. officers are in the process of informing the man's family. no arrests have been made. portuguese firefighters in the algarve are struggling to bring wildfires under control, as the southern european heatwave continues. temperatures have climbed to 46 degrees celsius, approaching the all—time european record. fire warnings have been issued across the iberian peninsula, as chi chi izundu reports. portugal — the latest country battling wildfire. some 700 firefighters are still tried to stop flames taking further hold of a eucalyptus forest near the town of monchique in the algarve. water—dropping aircraft have been assisting them as well as over 100 fire trucks. already, more than 1,00

tom watson, the deputy leader, said a couple of days ago he thought it should be dropped and the anti—semitism definition should be taken on as the definition of anti—semitism for labour, at which pointan anti—semitism for labour, at which point an appalling campaign, resign watson, was launched on twitter, and it has been revolting in its level of anti—semitism and abuse and is disgraceful in any democracy. now we hear today that the action against margaret hodge but not ian austin has been dropped, but labour claim ina has been dropped, but labour claim in a spectacular own goal that margaret hodge has apologised, she has claimed she has not apologised. in trying to close down the row, a new one has opened. it seems there's no way to put this to bed and i think it is really time forjeremy corbyn to take the wise advice of tom watson in this and both of the investigation is without qualification against ian austin and margaret hodge and two accept the standard definition of anti—semitism. standard definition of anti-semitism. is that the way he should be behaving?” anti-semitism. is

today a labour party member was suspended from the party in the wake of this tom watson article after making alleged anti—semitic comments online. so we can see that this issue does deeply divide the labour party in how well it's been handling this anti—semitism problem. jeremy corbyn, of course, he released a video over the weekend saying he does take the issue seriously, he reiterated an apology to the jewish community and basically said he is determined to get this right and anyone expressing anti—semitic views doesn't do so in his name. i'm sure his people are well aware this saga has been rumbling on for some time and it looks like it will last for some time to come. thank you very much, jessica. jessica parker at westminster. the former foreign secretary boris johnson has been accused of islamophobia after saying muslim women wearing burkas look like letter boxes. in his newspaper column, he said he was against bans on face—covering veils in public places, but added that they looked absolutely ridiculous. the muslim council of britain accused him of pandering to the far

he has not however responded to a call from his deputy, tom watson, for labour to adopt the full definition of anti—semitism as set out by the international holocaust remembrance alliance. vicki young reports. mr corbyn, when will you do enough for thejewish community to be happy with the labour party? he's not answering questions, but jeremy corbyn‘s under growing pressure to do something to prove he's taking the issue of anti—semitism seriously. mr corbyn‘s refused several requests for interviews. instead, the labour party filmed this message in which he says sorry for the hurt caused to manyjewish people. people who use anti—semitic poison need to understand, you do not do it in my name or the name of my party. you are not our supporters. and anyone who denies that this has surfaced in our party is clearly actually wrong and contributing to the problem. shame on you! jewish groups are angry about the internationally recognised definition of anti—semitism that the labour party has decided to adopt in its code of conduct. because it doesn't include all of the examples that come

tom watson called it a wake—up call. this can't put it to one side as the voice of one maverick it seems to be more systemic. the labour 's —— the labour party, coming up to co nfe re nce labour party, coming up to conference season, it will run and run. to the daily express, brexit never fire, they call it an exclusive. home secretary telling them that brexit will give us back oui’ them that brexit will give us back our borders of. he has got an audience here. at daily express audience here. at daily express audience of. lots of quotes inside saying it is brilliant. sajid javid says we are ensuring the control of oui’ says we are ensuring the control of our own borders but what continuing to attract those who have benefit to the uk. there is another report out today that says there are half a million eu taxi drivers, shop assistants, fruit pickers, warehouse workers, copy workers etc, who work in the uk and without them we will be in in the uk and without them we will beina in the uk and without them we will be

as a result of that article tom watson has been trolled op twitter. plenty of people having a go at him, saying he is not being loyal to the leader and tom watson said he never thought he would be asked to resign, which is what people are saying on twitter over an issue where he is trying to defend people who are facing prejudice and hate. now, he is not the only labour mp who has been trolled on twitterment we heard from emily benn. she is the caughtish of the granddaughter rather of the late tony benn, who is a key left—wing figure, many of core bishop's supporters view as a hero. she has spoken out againstjeremy corbyn and that he have been say things like her grandfather would turn in his grave. she said it is basically giving a sense of the way the party has changed. the kind of level of online abuse now you get when you speak out about any issue in the labour party, and i faced some quite personal stuff the last few days, shows how intolerant our politics has become, especially in the labour party, and it's not the party ijoined 14 years ago.

labour's deputy leader, tom watson, has said the party faces what he calls "eternal shame" unless it immediately stops its "damaging" arguments over anti—semitism. he's made the comments in an interview with the observer newspaper, in which he urged the party to accept the definition of anti—semitism set out by the international holocaust remembrance alliance. or yesterday jeremy corbyn sought to reassure thejewish community in an article for the guardian, in which he promised again to root out anti—semitism from labour. the nhs has been threatened with legal action if it does not offer transgender patients access to fertility services before they start transitioning treatment. the equality and human rights commission says patients should be given the opportunity to store eggs or sperm before starting their treatment, as it can cause infertility. local commissioning groups currently decide whether to provide fertility services, but it's claimed many choose not to for transgender people. an nhs spokesperson said the criticism is misplaced and policy responsibility lies with mini

let me tell you do not take you to what the deputy leader of the party tom watson has been saying tonight, that this decision of his two resign the party whip is a major wake—up call. "we cannot afford to lose people or such weight and stature" and this reflects the deep divisions in the party and the sense of drift engulfing us. pretty strong words from the deputy leader of the party. they are. i think most of the party. they are. i think most of these actually do want to stay in the labour party. it is almost impossible to try and force labour to ta ke impossible to try and force labour to take anti—semitism more seriously when you are outside of it. i think that in the past month we have seen a very concerted effort from the leadership team, from all mps and even a lot of party members to try and stamp out anti—semitism in the party. they are accepting it is a bit hobbled. an increasingly members are reporting other people who are claiming to be labour members or maybe labour members saying things on social media or making people feel uncomfortable, attacking mps, etc. i have see

tonight, labour's deputy leader tom watson call this a wake—up call. shadow ministers and mps loyal to jeremy corbyn are so far keeping a low profile but quietly they will be angry enemies and militant friends quietly hoping that frank field won't be the last one to walk away. john pienaar, thank you. thousands of families across the uk could now be entitled to benefits for bereaved parents and their children, after an unmarried mother of four won her case in the supreme court. siobhan mclaughlin, from county antrim, was refused widowed parent's allowance when her partner died, because the couple weren't married. but the supreme court has ruled that it breached the family's human rights. the government is now considering whether to change the law. 0ur ireland correspondent emma vardy reports. a father and a partner for 23 years. john adams lived together with his family. when he died from cancer, siobhan mclaughin had to take a second job to help support their children. she was told widowed parent's allowance was only paid to those who've been married

for them, it is a test of old loyalties and nurse topic tonight's labour's deputy leader tom watson call this a wake—up call for big shadow ministers loyal tojeremy corbett are keeping a low profile but quietly they will be angry and unease and militant friends, quietly hoping that frank field won't be the last one to walk away. the payday lender, wonga, is going into administration tonight afterfacing a surge of compensation claims. the company, which became one of britain's most controversial loans companies, ran into trouble after the government cracked down on payday lenders. wonga's profits peaked at £85 million six years ago, when it had more than a million customers. but the latest figures show that plunged to a loss of £65 million, with a sharp fall in borrowers. the company faced criticism for its high interest loans and was accused of targeting the vulnerable. our personal finance correspondent simon gompertz reports. with a loan from wonga.com... wonga rode to number one among payday lenders on a wave of humourous adverts which glossed over the harm being done to some borr

a lot of comments have called for deputy leader tom watson also to resign. again it speaks to the view of some in the party that if you disagree with jeremy the view of some in the party that if you disagree withjeremy corbyn at all or try to fight anti—semitism, as tom watson was doing, you need to get out. it's almost becoming a personality cult which is not healthy and not good for politics or the party. labour needs to get a grip of this. jeremy corbyn has been slow for many years to deal with this issue and i'm afraid he still has a lot of work to do. should he resign? if he wants to remain bdp should tackle this crisis with real action. in the fade even that video message in my opinion is not enough. thank you for your time today. six people have been arrested in venezuela for involvement in an apparent assassination attempt, by drone attack, against president nicol s maduro. since assuming office in 2013, mr maduro's administration has drawn widespread international condemnation for undermining democracy and violating human rights in his country. he

we'll be speaking to the labour's deputy leader tom watson about this in just over half an hour. the prime minister of australia, malcolm turnbull, who narrowly fought off a leadership challenge earlier this week, has said he'll quit if a second contest is approved by his party. his challenger peter dutton has called for another vote tomorrow, and several members of mr turnbull‘s cabinet have resigned, as pressure for him to stand down grows. the us has imposed a new round of financial tariffs on chinese goods, worth almost £i2.5 billion. duties will be collected on products ranging from motorcycles to steam turbines in an ongoing trade war between the two countries. china has responded by imposing tariffs of equal value on goods from america. we're joined from singapore by asia business correspondent, karishma vaswani. the impact of this could be huge, couldn't it, not just the impact of this could be huge, couldn't it, notjust in those two countries but the ripple effect of this as well, karishma you're absolutely right, and that ripple effect is already being felt in some r

we understand labour has suspended one person who made anti—semitic comments towards tom watson on a twitter. but all of this doesn‘t help the party move on. we‘ve heard today from rebecca long bailey, the shadow business secretary, on this issue. she says labour needs to put a stop to this and move onwards. it's a very, very difficult issue, and we're coming from a very dark place. we know that we weren't dealing with issues very quickly when this issue first presented itself. now we need to get to grips with the matter, and we know that we've had jeremy speaking quite openly on this issue over the weekend. we've opened dialogue with the jewish community to make sure that we get our anti—semitism code of conduct really, really on the button. it has to be, because we've got to restore faith in the jewish community. but i think it will be difficult for mr corbyn to restore the faith that rebecca long bailey spoke about because the jewish rebecca long bailey spoke about because thejewish community rebecca long bailey spoke about because the jewish community so rebecca long bailey

the deputy leader of the party, tom watson, has said that this is a serious loss to the party andi this is a serious loss to the party and i deeply regret frank's division. it reflects the deep divisions in the party and a sense of just divisions in the party and a sense ofjust engulfing ours. it is a major wake—up call. we cannot afford to all those people such weight and stature. the labour party officially seen, thanks to frank field for his service to the party. more as it comes in. another briton story. the payday lender, , has comes in. another briton story. the payday lender,, has collapsed into administration. what exactly is going on the wonga? administration means been taking over bike three executives from grand forking they will ride and find it what is left, what can be done about it. if you borrow from wonga, though think you're off the hook at all. you will have to pay back that alone. the administrators more assiduous in pursuing what their order. things will continue as normal for customers, there will have to be shocked with the company. the other side is that people

watson where he talks about how the party could disappear into a vortex of eternal shame. following that article he has been bombarded with tweets from labour party members telling him to resign. among those, one facebook post considered to be anti—semitic from george mcmanus on the national policy forum, the party we re the national policy forum, the party were quick with the criticism of him, saying he would be suspended pending an investigation and he has since told the bbc has comments are stupid and crass and insensitive and hurtful. i suppose it shows the party trying to act quickly on this issue because they have been criticised for not acting quickly enoughin criticised for not acting quickly enough in the past when complaints are made. we have heard from rebecca long—bailey in the cabinet and she has added to those calls for something to be done quickly to get this problem over and done with and sorted. it's a very, very difficult issue, and we're coming from a very dark place. we know that we weren't dealing with issues very quickly when this issue first pres

labour‘s deputy leader tom watson said it should serve as a ‘major wake up call‘ for the party. mr field has been an mp for almost a0 years and has campaigned on a range of issues — most notably on welfare and poverty. but he‘s never been afraid to challenge the party leadership — most recently over brexit — where he campaigned to leave the european union. frank field joins me now isaid i said you have been an mp fanelli 40 yea rs, i said you have been an mp fanelli 40 years, you have been a member of the labour party for 60 years. how are you feeling about this? obviously it is pretty sick making, resigning from the labour party yesterday. i went to give my letter to the chief whip. he was busy in his own constituency. i spoke to him on the phone, and spoke to him later face—to—face. it is a major upheaval. i do think i have never been part of that gesture politics brigade, it is about getting changes. it is becausejeremy will lead us into the next election. i am more than anxious that we actually get a clear view that we regain the position of being the key force i

what we have today is tom watson, the deputy the labour party, talking about plans to tighten regulation on social media. it has been brewing for a long time. there has been a chilling of the relationship with social media companies. the government is going to put forward a plan in october which has been many months and consultation. this is the opportunity to reset the deal. consultation. this is the opportunity to reset the dealm consultation. this is the opportunity to reset the deal. it is the definition of the social media companies. apologies for speaking over. at the moment they are almost publishers of other content. other people take responsibility for what is on the. newspapers have to take responsibility for what is in them. when social media began not that long ago, no one would have anticipated the level of impact it would have on the life of everyone. we know now, so this is the time. 0ne we know now, so this is the time. one of the popular things social media is the how—to instructional videos. do you use them? a couple of things. i use them for golf tips. they are so po

tom watson, deputy leader of the labour party, says it is a serious loss, i deeply regret the decision, reflecting the divisions in the party, it is a major wake—up call. we will speak with frank field a little later in the programme, in 20 minutes, while i have you, though, another key political story, iimagine you though, another key political story, i imagine you don't often comment on people's dancing, but the prime minister has been dancing again in kenya this time, is this a publicity thing that she is doing? my dancing and analysis is highly and regularly sought after and it is good to be able to enlighten you as an irish dance and naga on strictly, so here is theresa may doing her thing for the second time on this african trip she has been on this week, getting a bitjiggy with it, and more enthusiastic this time rather than last time, and more enthusiastic than those around her, and i say hats off to her, she is a a lot better than i would be able to manage, so i say hats off to her, what can you do in those situations? you have to give it bust some moves. she is definitely g

tom: chris turner, thank you. and marilyn watson of blackrock. do a fewut in and minutes on something i try to avoid like the plague. reporter with crypto comments, alastair marsh. you look the part. what is the difference this time in the collapse of bitcoin? what is different this time around? >> if you speak to the bitcoin diehards, nothing different in the sense that a 7% klein from -- 70% decline from the highs of last year to the 6000 level now, we have seen that kind of volatility before. in any other kind of market, you think that inflows and would be the end -- implosion would be the end and funds would shut down and the end of the world scenarios discussed. but actually you see a consolidation, people say tourists are leaving and it is time for people to get down to work. bitcoin is only on the way up. a number of signals to suggest that is the case with the potential for an etf and the growing institutionalization of the market. francine: there are true believers in bitcoin, do they still believe it or have a turned? that would be psyc