>> gary cohn, if he ever took a

when he gets these paper statements today from rob porter and gary cohn, does he fall for those? >> i think all he cares about is the show. you know, he has this very reptilian, core strengths. even if it contradicts what he believes it happening. it's also juan of his core flaws. because he only lives in this world, this fiction that he creates around himself. i think he knows full well that those are possibly cover documents for both gary cohn and rob porter. but what he cares more about is that his assemblage of voices out there saying, bob woodward is a liar and the president of the united states is telling the truth. and that's why it's worth remembering in a moment like this that trump is 72 years old and he spent the last five decades anonymously leaking horrendous gossip and damaging information about friends, business partners and his own family members. >> david corn, on one of the mysteries bob woodward could not penetrate is what he calls the michael flynn mystery, the mysteries of michael flynn and what went on in those days at the white house before he was fired. an

here's what gary cohn says. i stole it off his desk, i wouldn't set let him see it, he's never going to see that document, got to protect the country. gary cohn and rob porter have not refuted or denied these quotes as of this hour, your thoughts? >> i'd say the title of the book is wonderful because ever since trump's been elected i've had a knot in my stomach. somebody who knows how the presidency works, there's time for fear so i understand what these people are going through and why he sected that title. >> and he says it comes from donald trump himself who says that in order to get people to follow you you have to use fear. i knno . >> i know he does. the story on porter and cohn taking documents out of the system, that's highly unusual. by the time they've been staffed to the point where someone would put something on the president's desk, it's very unusual. it must not have gone through cohn. that's what the staff secretary is there for is to make sure only the documents the president should see are on hi

phil mudd is with us, the former chief economic adviser to the president gary cohn, the story is told by woodward actually had to go into the oval office and steal a document the president was apparently anxious to sign that would ended a u.s./south korea trade agreement which would have then resulted in some major national security ramifications for the united states, including narrowing -- expanding the time the u.s. would be able to determine if north korea launched some sort of nuclear missile. the excerpt claims cohn told an associate, quote, you stole it off his desk. i wouldn't let him see it. he's never going to see that document. got to protect the country. in the book you see those types of anecdotes over and over again. >> if you'd been around the president for the past year and a half, what decision would you trust, rocket man, best friend and now we can't trust him. and now we're seeing this week that the white house has to warn the russians about a civilian massacre in syria. you look at what the president has said about china. let me invite him to mar-a-lago, he did not

no one voted for gary cohn. no one voted for defense secretary matus and yet there are stories that both of them ignoring, or in the case of gary cohn, taking a letter of the present could have signed off his desk. who are they to thwart the will of the duly elected president? >> that's right. it does raise serious concerns. every presidential administration has vigorous debates, disagreements on policy, priorities. but this is a different sort of thing. these are folks that take direct action and to prevent the president from carrying out his worst instincts or decisions. that should raise concerns particularly given the anonymous editorial in the new york times. i will remind you the writer of that editorial makes it clear he supports the president's policy agenda. he supports tax cuts and deregulation building the military and he self describes as not part of the deep state but the steady-state. someone who is trying to keep this president on course and delivering on his policy agenda. but it does as you say,

and let's read gary cohn's for instance, his denial. that this book does not accurately portray my experience at the white house. i'm proud of my experience in the trump administration, and i continue to support the president and his economic agenda. so bob woodward says he's getting calls from people saying, you're absolutely right. but listen, i've got to say this. you know, to save my job, in effect. i mean, that would hold form for mattis, currently defense secretary, but doesn't that hold for gary cohn or others? >> what do you mean? >> i mean, the denial -- he doesn't have a job in the trump administration any more. so he doesn't have the same incentive to deny it if it's not true, because he's not trying to keep his job. >> he did sign an nda, they all signed ndas. and we haven't seen one of these enforced yet or try to enforce on omarosa on some level. i don't think gary cohn wants to be on the president's bad side. there is incentive to stay on his good side. and they all know it could turn on a dime. if the president believes

his chief economic adviser gary cohn and staff secretary rob porter. boefth w both who played pivotal roles in bob woodward's report about the white house. he said he appreciated their denials and showed that bob woodward's book is fiction, making it clear where rob porter and gary cohn issued the denials in the first place. >> thank you. >>> democratic senator jeff merkley of oregon claims the trump administration is diverting hurricane relief money from fema to fund immigration and customs enforcement just as the hurricane season is starting. merkley released a homeland security document showing a transfer of $9.8 million. >> the document says the money is coming from the travel, training, public engagement, and i.t. budgets, not disaster relief. senator merkley insists the white house is diverting money from response and recovery budgets to fund additional immigrant detention camps. he says any shift in funding will make it even more challenging for fema to respond to natural disasters. >>> history will be made one way or another in new hampshire th

what else might have been taken off his desk in an inappropriate way by gary cohn or others. again, think the shows that this is a white house that is very dysfunctional and individuals like gary cohn and others are trying to prevent mr. trump from doing things that could hurt all of us. >> after the north korean summit, we heard the president kind of question the need for the military exercises that are a huge built-in part of our forces serving overseas. i want to read you this other portion. this is via "the washington post" from the woodward book. one month into his presidency, trump asked general dunford for a plan for a pre-emptive military strike on north korea, which rattled the combat veteran. in the fall of 2017 as trump intensified a war of words with kim jong-un, dictating north korea's dictator little rocket man in a speech at the united nations, aides worried that the president might be provoking kim. but woodward writes, trump told porter, his staff secretary, that he saw the situation as a contest of wills. quote, this is all about leader versus leader, man ve

gary cohn telling axios "this book does not accurately portray my experience at the white house. i'm proud of my service in the trump administration and continue to support the president and his economic agenda." rob porter had a longer statement, part of which reads, "i am struck by the selective and often misleading portrait "fear" paints of the president's administration." this morning, wood ward said denials shouldn't always be believed. >> after the information and fear sta "fear" started breaking last week, one key person who's in office called me and said everyone knows what you've said here is true. it's 1,000% correct. and then this person has said some public things that contradict that. and i'm not happy, but i have a smile on my face because the truth in all of this is going to emerge. >> chuck, that's the second time i've heard him use that phrase, the truth is going to emerge. and you cannot ignore the parallel to the mueller probe. that mueller's silence and i don't know if he's smiling or not, but his ability to sort of withstand the pounding that he gets from thi

so he wouldn't sign it, quoting cohn explaining, "got to protect the country." >> did gary cohn actually take a memo off your desk and is he a traitor? >> no, he never took a memo off my desk. >> how did woodward get it? >> gary cohn, if he ever took a memo off my desk, i would have fired him in two seconds. if he did that, i'd never speak to him again. i'd never speak to him again. >> reporter: all of this raises a fundamental question. can the president trust his own top advisers? >> do you trust the people that are around you? >> i do, i do, i do, but what i do is now i look around the room and i say, hey -- if i don't know somebody -- let me just tell you this. we have a really well-run, smooth-running white house. >> reporter: in fact, the president says nobody's done a better job than he has. still, at a rally in montana, he told supporters he could be impeached if democrats win control of congress. >> if it does happen it is your fault because you did not go out and vote. you didn't go out to vote. you didn't go out to vote. that's the only way it could happen. >> jon karl with us

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gary cohn stealing this document off the president's desk because he word, according to woodward, that if the president signed the document, it would jeopardize america's national security by make us more vulnerable to a north korean missile attack. >> he takes the letter from the president's desk in the oval office. once it's out of trump's eyesight, he didn't ask for it when the issue was postponed for a while. >> have you ever heard of something like this? >> cohen's argument to a colleague is, i'm protecting the country. i've never seen or heard of something like that occurring. it's part of the breakdown of the presidency in the trump era. >> woodward calls it a nervous breakdown, staff joining together to purposefully block some of what they believed were the president's most dangerous impulses. another example came, he says, after a chemical attack on unarmed civilians launched by the president of syria, bashar al assad. now you're talk about a moment where the president says i want you to essentially assassinate the leader of syria. >> it was kind of, let's get f'er. mattis was

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trump is privately furious at gary cohn and rob porter and sources with direct thinking, it's possible he attacks porter and kohn this week. joining me is annie lynn ski, chief correspondent for the boston globe. jonathan swan himself, axios reporter, and an author and political reporter. let me start with jonathan. do you expect trump in his usual fashion to strike out against the sources in this book including porter, and attack him personally? >> it's very possible. this week -- so, trump hasn't read the book. the white house got a pdf version of the book last tuesday night. and aides have been reading through the book and feeding to trump what they're reading. and one of the things that really struck them was that gary cohn and rob porter play starring roles in the book. the book opens with gary cohn taking a piece of paper of the korean trade deal off trump's desk so trump can't sign the termination. rob porter is seemingly on almost every page. so, the white house is furious at them and trump is furious at them privately. >> he'll go after rob porter personally? >> he talked abou

and here's one of the quotes in the book john kellily sees gary cohn in the cabinet room after gary cohn has said look i'm going to resign because of the charlottesville statements and in the book it says on the way out of oval office, general kelly, who has heard it all, pulled cohn into the cabinet room according to notes that cohn made afterwards that was the greatest show of self-control i have ever seen. if that was me i would have taken that resignation letter and shoved it up his six different times. i spoke to a source close to the white house this is what they told me in quotes they couldn't believe the kelly quotes. that they weren't surprised about the other four but that the kelly quotes really surprised them and that the president is very unhappy with general kelly, chief of staff, that he feels that they feel betrayed and the other thing they said is they had heard kelly say something like this about cohn or that they had heard this story before. so there seems to be now, because of the book some distrust between president trump and chief of staff john kelly. would that sur

so what does gary cohn, the former chief economic adviser do? he says, according to the book, i stole it off his desk. i wouldn't let him see it. he's never going to see that document. got to protect the country. imagine that. people we didn't elect who, by the way, many of whom have not looked that good over time with that they did in the white house. they're acting to protect us from the man who was elected to lead? wild. all right. number three, this is basically number four that gets worse. it isn't just -- matters of. last year trump reportedly called defense secretary mattis and said he wanted to assassinate bashar al assad. he said, let's go in. let's kill the f-ing lot of him. that's what's reported as him saying. mattis tells his aide, we're not going to do any of that. we're going to be much more measured. number two, trump's own lawyers worry that he will commit perjury. his former attorney, john dowd, staged a practice session to simulate an interview with the special counsel. dowd told the president, according to the book, don't tes

gary cohn, rob porter, it was done with the knowledge of chief of staff reince priebus, and in addition to the documents they also would just slow-roll things or distract him or change the subject. there is just extraordinary detail over a long period of time, incident after incident, that is scary. you know, we want a president to be able to manage a crisis. maybe the most important thing they do. when you hear his closest aides saying, as you quoted, that he doesn't have the knowledge, he doesn't understand substance, all of which is reported in the book, you have to worry. >> yeah. and we want them, you said, to be able to handle crisis. but, rick, we want them to be confident because this idea that top aides to the president swipe papers off his desk because they didn't want him to see or sign them, gary cohn is in this because he felt the need to protect the country. that is stunning. why don't they just say, okay, look, this isn't right, america, i can no longer do this? why can't they be honest with america and come clean instead of protecting this president and possibly harming

you hear the president right there say gary cohn never took a memo off my desk. mem r letters are external use. memos are internal use. could be that, i suppose. when you hear the president say he trusts the people around him, in your view, after being around this west wing, should he? >> wishful thinking on the president's part, for him to say that. i think there's -- one thing about the president is when he populated the white house, he had to bring people in who he hadn't had long relationships with. a lot of those people are still in his cabinet and are still around. that's just a product of the president being an outsider and not having a deep bench of people and advisers when he came into the white house. there are still people who came from other worlds that the president doesn't know that well around him. the fact this op-ed came out has set that in relief and made the president even more paranoid that some people who he doesn't have many year relationship with may be trying to undermine him. >> jeremy bash, what would be the problem with the president, a

you hear the president right there say gary cohn never took a memo off my desk. letters are external use. memos are internal use. could be that, i suppose. when you hear the president say he trusts the people around him, in your view, after being around this west wing, should he? >> wishful thinking on the president's part, for him to say that. i think there's -- one thing about the president is when he populated the white house, he had to bring people in who he hadn't had long relationships with. a lot of those people are still in his cabinet and are still around. that's just a product of the president being an outsider and not having a deep bench of people and advisers when he came into the white house. there are still people who came from other worlds that the president doesn't know that well around him. the fact this op-ed came out has set that in relief and made the president even more paranoid that some people who he doesn't have many year relationship with may be trying to undermine him. >> jeremy bash, what would be the problem with the president, after l

i'm puzzled by the gary cohns, the h.r. mcmasters, the rex tillersons, the people who obviously talked to woodward, who obviously have unburdened themselves of their sense of thb extreme not only unfitness but danger to the country by this president. are you going to do anything more than talk to a reporter months after the fact? why didn't you resign together? why didn't you on the day you left -- gary cohn, you are telling me that the president cannot remember that if you take a piece of paper off his desk that it was there, two hours later he then forgets the paper was ever there and he intended a catastrophically bad policy butd it was his policy and he can't remember it? why didn't you share that with a committee of congress at a time when it was relevant? s why now and why anonymously? i understand it's hazardous. but you know, a lot of americans have had over the centuries takn a lot of risks to defend the country. it's not so much to risk getting an angry negative tweet from this president compared to what other peo

gary cohn, principal economic advisor, took it away. and the president like a puppy completely forgot and never asked to see it again. we are in a crisis. my reaction to that, i appreciate the additional piece of testimony, but being anonymous means that we are now discussing the anonymity of the writer rather than confronting the crisis that the writer told us about and asking what to do with it -- about it. the core of his claim is that the president is being cut out of his own administration. many of us would prefer, probably most of us -- most people in the administration would prefer a president, a mattis presidency to a trump presidency. but that's not the way the constitution provides. it provides -- the constitution does provide solutions for a presidency that is unfit. >> when i just -- i'll get to the solutions in a second. but let me ask you, mark lauder. clearly you disagree with the substance of what was written. does it concern you that a lot of what was written actually does bolster, and particularly in bob woodward's wor

today, trump said, it is just not true. >> did gary cohn actually take a memo off your desk? is he a traitor? >> no, he never took -- he never took a memo off my desk. >> how did woodward get it? >> gary cohn, if he ever took a memo on my desk, i would have fired him in two seconds. >> with that, let's bring in our lead-off panel, shall we, on a friday night at the end of this long though oddly shortened we'll. anita kumar from mcclatchy newsrooms, brian bennett fromtime magazine and jeremy bash back with us as well, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon, former chief counsel to the house intel committee. good evening to you all. anita, what is your latest reporting? we have to ask this hourly these days from inside this west wing? >> you've hit on it. the president is still very, very upset. people have used words that he's obsessed. he wants to know who wrote this. you know, there's all sorts of talk about finding out who this person is. i'm hearing they haven't launched any official investigation. even when the president, you know, sort of says jeff sessions should

cohn, he said that he preched them. he thought they were excellent and thought they proved that bob woodward's book was fiction, making it pretty clear why cohn and porter felt the need to issue them in the first place. >> joining me is democratic congress mr. jerry connelly of virginia, a democrat and a member of the foreign affairs committee. thank you for taking the time to be with us. >> good to be with you. >> first, let me ask your reaction to hearing the president call the administration's response to hurricane maria in puerto rico as a, quote, incredible unsung success. to remind our viewers of the deaths from maria in puerto rico, 2,975. what is your reaction to the remarks of the president? >> monstrous fiction that cost lives. because if the head of the government doesn't see anything wrong with the response, lives are lost, to say nothing that the island was prostrate for the better part of a year. most of its power out for months and months and months, homes destroyed, roads washed away, people having troub

and gary cohn, as gabe sherman said, the president did him a favor. look, nina what's her name, his former colleague working under mcmaster, who is also gone. i forget her name. she got back to goldman. gary is not at goldman for a reason. he didn't belong in that administration. he is a democrat. >> george papadopoulos. >> yes. >> the reaction to his sentencing, what 14 days or so, he says that his testimony may have helped the special counsel in his pursuit of the truth. what do you think? >> i think that, look, the special counsel, as i have said, in terms of let's say roger stone, in terms of me being there, and one of the reasons -- i was thinking about it and aside i have to go. they have a mandate. they should investigate. all americans want to know. i happen to believe it there wasn't. if there was some collusion, some plan with the russians, and he gave them breadcrumbs. i would say that in his testimony. the problem i think with george papadopoulos's sentencing, and this goes to another thing that hasn't been covered and i'm surprised he did

he has expressed similar beliefs about gary cohn. one official says it is unlikely anyone will be fired because that adds credence to the book the president is trying to discredit. >> we are told that the president evaluates aides of being unloyal by how strongly they push back. two officials tell cnn mr. trump is pleased with chief of staff john kelly and james mattis. josh rogin reports that white house officials are actively discussing who will replace mattis at the pentagon when he steps down. on wednesday, the president declared mattis will stay in his job. josh will join us next hour. >>> no shortage of fireworks on day two of the brett kavanaugh hearings. kavanaugh declaring no one is above the law during a 12-hour session of the senate judiciary committee. he did not want to answer explosive questions from democrats about the man who nominated him. >> can a sitting president be required to respond to a subpoena? >> so that's a hypothetical question. s>> president trump claims he hs an absolute right to pardon himself. does he

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axios reports trump is furious with gary cohn and rob porter, both featured in the book in detail. it's possible he publicly attacks those who this weekend, and it comes in the new york times purportedly from a senior official in the trump administration, the op ed. you combine this with the staffs at the white house and it's stoking trump's paranoia about the deep state. and even his own party members are criticizing him. >> it's pretty clear that this white house is a reality show, soap opera presidency. the drama is the drama of omarosa and cohen and manafort and the drama of the woodward quotes and the drama of the op eds. >> i hope more will come out publicly and the congress will more publicly condemn statements like the president made on twitter on monday about going after his enemies. >> i just think the president has no appreciation, no real appreciation for the democratic institutions and values that have made this nation great. >> i think that the precedence continuing -- president's continuing public humiliation of the attorney general is deeply inappropriate. >> trump'

and i think there are kind of three pockets here of people taking actions like gary cohn, the chief economic adviser, swiping, stealing something from the resolute desk in the oval office -- >> what he said he was doing for the good of the country. >> yeah, not just for the good, but to save the country, to protect the country, because if that had been signed, you begin the unraveling of our relationship with south korea. not just in trade, but in terms of the 28,000 military personnel we have in the country. and the top-secret intelligence programs. and so, you can't separate those. and to do what the president wanted to do, just summarily say, we're out of this trade agreement, the experts and the people interested in protecting the country said, no, we have to take action and in my view, in reporting on this, these are acts of conscience by people who say that, yes, i'm taking a risk, but better to take a personal risk than to go down this road that the president, at least on a number of points, wanted to take. >> it is fascinating in these statements that gary cohn has put out, rob porte

gary cohn's denial is a general denial. if you're going to deny something in a woodward book, be specific. that's your best defense. "and everything up that document from the oval office desk. never said this, i never said that." that's the type of specific pushback that is very effective. a generalized book pushed back saying that he got his facts wrong or that it's misleading is harder to interpret because you're not being specific. >> harris: i wonder how much this will affect the voters. when it came out, she reported people. the books come and go, your last quick thought on that? >> i think the key to the president's blue-collar voters, and their turnout. i think the president is already in trouble with college-educated voters. the real key is going to be, does the trump base show up in big numbers? because we know the democrat base is showing up in big numbers. the trump base needs to match h. >> harris: ari, always great to see you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> harris: tomorrow, be sure to catch bob woodward

think how that feels to the american people. >> some harsh words there for gary cohn. we also talked not only about big banks, but about big tech companies. and she had some harsh words for them too what would you do with amazon? given how you just articulated that >> it is a lot like glass/steagall you want to be a competitor, be a competitor that's great you want to be the platform, that's a different function. and if you're getting huge comparative advantage from being the platform provider because of all this information you keep scraping off, then we no longer have competition going on over on the dress manufacturer, shirt manufacturers, blender manufacturers side of the house. so again, i just keep going back to this point. i believe in markets, but i believe in markets where there's competition. >> jeff bezos who was in washington, d.c. last night at the economic club, maybe it's bipartisan elizabeth warren has a problem with him, president trump has a problem with him a lot more to come this morng ene turn breaking economic news retail sales stay tuned you're w

gary cohn speaks for a lot of guys. he obviously, there's no love lost with trump, who he used to work for. you notice gary cohn never denied the specifics of the woodward book attributed to him that he used to steal papers off trump's desk. he just said he had a wonderful time working for trump and it was somewhat miscommunicated -- liz: he told the breaking views event for reuters last night that jamie would make a phenomenal president. >> i think he would, too, but here's -- liz: jamie doesn't want to run. >> he does. he says he's not running now but everybody knows him says it. i'm just going to say this. i don't think jamie dimon can win. donald trump comes across, says some really outrageous, buffoonish stuff sometimes, but he is a pretty amazing retail politician. he gets out before the crowds. he out-hustled hillary clinton. liz: could you just see jamie walking through the crowds. he's not afraid to talk, to high-five. he's got that scrappy queens personality, too. what are you talking about? >> i don't think h

gary cohn was pitted against steve mnuchin. president trump loved that. treasury secretary and very publicly had said, yeah, i should have given gary the job. he likes that friction. the friction of gary and peter navarro. trump created that and revels to it. >> i think we last spoke ten hours ago and spoke about methodology and both seen and you had noted on twitter, the tweet of david maranis, one of your fellow reporters at "washington post," biographer, who had said he would stake his life on the accuracy and methods in effect of bob woodward having known him for 41 years. so it strikes me we could have a second day of the white house questioning the goods, questioning methods, questioning voracity and the point you were making last night is, be careful. >> yeah. you know, i think the white house is going do have to tread carefully. bob woodward is not just any journalist. he's been at this since watergate. he took down a president then and he's been chronicling every president since. he's done 19 books and he has a very clear method. he does intervie

from a trade agreement with south korea. >> porter consulted cohn, gary cohn, who told him, according to woodward, quote, "i can stop this, i'll just take the paper off his desk." >> seth: the craziest thing about that story is that if you steal a piece of paper from trump's desk, he won't even know it's gone. [ laughter ] he's like who's blown away by the first half of a magic trick. "oh, my god, how did you get that lady inside the box?" [ laughter ] this isn't even first time there's been an explosive allegation from a tell all book about how the trump white house deals with paper. you might remember that just a few weeks ago former trump aide omarosa manigault-newman wrote in her book that she once saw trump eat paper in the oval office. [ laughter ] now in fairness maybe he was just eating it so gary cohn couldn't steal it first. [ laughter ] gary comes in late at night looking for it and then trump flips on a light and says, "oh, are you looking for your paper, gary? [ laughter ] because i'm afraid i put it somewhere safe in my belly. [ laughter ] now if you'll excuse me, i have

presumably that story comes from gary cohn or he signed off on it. what did gary cohn do about it? nothing. he should have walked out the door, told congress the president is mentally disabled. >> gene. >> well, i think you refer to this congress as craven and supine. that was an understatement, i think, david. >> complicit. >> complicit, too. that begins to get to where this congress is. you know, so i was thinking about this, and my first reaction was yours, well, this person should come forward, should go to congress and demand to testify, and congress would do nothing. this congress would do absolutely nothing. especially now, coming up to the election, the congress would do nothing. and what i fear is that this person came out as a way of trying to head off some specific act of craziness that is that donald trump is -- >> that's coming. >> name a single administration official who has either resigned or even just been pushed out and left the administration, and then spoken out. you can't. >> no. >> and in many ways, that was my first reaction as well is that this, many many wa

gary cohn has said he was a professional liar. this is not surprising. what i think this person should do. i agree with sarah sanders, a sentence i have never said before, they should resign, put their name to this, and come out to the country because it makes it easy for people to yell -- say this is the deep state or for donald trump to dismiss this when it's a nonany moug nany --. >> this is an area where you and amy should agree. >> they should. anybody who does not believe in this administration and is part of the administration needs to resign immediately. kate, this is the thing. you know, so you want to impeach donald trump, then what? i mean, it's not like hillary clinton's going to become president if donald trump is impeached and that's what these people want. we're not going back there. >> sounds like the person in this opinion piece does not want hillary clinton to be the president. >> this is the thing. i believe this is a coordinated attack right when bob woodward's book is coming out, all of a sudden this piece comes out. why if bob wood

gary cohn according to the book called the president a professional liar. and john dowd, the former personal attorney for the president, called the president a f'ing liar again. those are the president's current and former advisers. you hear that, that's got to be so concerning to you. >> well, it absolutely is. and if you look at some of the areas that have most profound concern to us, you look at the situation on the korean peninsula, and you have his aides and cabinet members essentially removing documents, preventing him from doing things that would jeopardize our national security. you have him completely relying on his egotistical sense of self that he can somehow dominate over kim jong-un when it appears that kim jong-un has eaten his lunch, because he was so ill prepared for the summit and the aftermath. we have the situation in afghanistan, where he's asking general and secretary mattis, why can't we just kill people? that's just your job. we can kill our way out of this. and similarly, the discussion of killing bashar al assad. the level of lack o

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gary cohn is gone. reince prebiebus is gone. rob porter is gone. i'm sorry. ted cruz, the republican senator from texas, speaking at the brett kavanaugh confirmation hearing. let's take you back to capitol hill. >> that is the world that is washington in 2018. i want to discuss what this hearing is about and what it's not about. first, this hearing is not about the qualifications of the nominee. judge kavanaugh is by any objective measure unquestionably qualified for supreme court. everyone agrees he's one of the most respected federal judges in the country. he has impeccable academic credentials, even if you did go to yale. and you served over a decade on the u.s. court of appeals for the d.c. circuit, often referred to as the second highest court in the land. so our democratic colleagues are not trying to make the argument that judge kavanaugh is not qualified. indeed, i haven't heard anyone even attempt to make that argument. second, this hearing is not about his judicial record. jung kavanaugh has over 300 published opinions, which altogether amount to ov

that is helpful. >> helpful except gary cohn is saying, we need to deregulate. banks are in such good shape because we force them to hold such money in reserves. that international level of, like, money that they have to hold, equity they have to hold, that's not going anywhere, whatever gary cohn wants. we need to worry about the markets crashing and student loans and the emerging markets. there's no shortage of things to worry about. we need to worry about a hurricane, but not banks, not right now. >> not right now. but we have to say good-bye. that wrooaps up this hour, now hallie jackson. >> i am hallie jackson in washington. time is running out to get out. things look picture perfect now, right? the storm coming is anything but. bigger than the state of michigan with the hurricanes causing triple threat. local leaders begging people to protect themselves. we are going to hear from a leader, any minute. check this out. that is where you will see the governor of north carolina live, coming up in seconds as president trump issues his own