ed >> steve bannon: she was on the campaign, and very good. >> laura: effective, but boy. >> steve bannon: she did terrific job, we threw her into tough situations. >> laura: taping conversations. >> steve bannon: in hindsight, but rights making straight-forward decisions. >> laura: looking forward to seeing the film. i can't wait. >> steve bannon: go to trump at war dot com. >> laura: you can watch the trailer, if you haven't seen it. attacks on president trump seem more and more coordinated, as steve said, are they? a debate on that, next. ♪ >> laura: from bob woodwar >> laura: from bob woodward awe new book to the hearings to obama comeback to political stage, this appears to be all-out coordinated attack to the resistance from president trump. victor davis hansen calls this circus of resistance in piece that ties all the events together. joining us for a conversation, is former secret service agent and nra t.v. host, senior fellow chris hahn in the studio, never get to see him, former aide to senator chuck schumer. start with you, vdh. coordinated, woodward calling up omarosa maniga

it is great for steve bannon. i'm sure he will take this as a great badge of honor and we'll be hearing a lot from him on this topic over the next few days. >> steve schmidt, let me ask steve really quickly, steve, you and i have spent some time being critical of this president and those around this president, but at the same time, you were one of the few people along with willie, mika and myself that suggested that donald trump might win. you saw it coming. and you saw it coming very early. and that angered a lot of people on the left. they didn't want to confront the reality, the ugly reality, that was in front of them. when you see something like this happen, i think rimnich doing the right thing, let's talk to this guy to see what makes him tick and challenge him in public. and then the left goes crazy on twitter and he is dis-invited. do you fear that many on the left may be repeating the same mistake that they would rather live in a bubble with their heads in the sand than confront the ugliness that stands b

like, you invite steve bannon to anything, and there's going to be backlash. like, there have been raccoons who left the dumpster because steve bannon dropped in for a visit. but in any case, now the liberals say they'll be breaking up with "the new yorker." and then just yesterday came the biggest boycott news of all. nike launched their new campaign to celebrate 30 years of "just do it," including an ad with colin kaepernick that says, "believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything." yeah, which seems really uplifting with kaepernick's photo, but it's also the moto of many gambling addicts. don't forget. ( laughter ) now, millions of people- ( laughter ) millions of people love this ad-- i love how some of you are catching it later. ( laughter ) ( applause ) millions of people love this ad, like, it went viral all over the internet. but then the other shoe dropped. >> some outrage after nike colin kaepernick as the new face of its 30th anniversary "just do it" campaign. >> this is scummy. this is lousy. this is rotten. and i'm never buying an

isn't that what david rec name should have done with steve bannon? >> we both agree "the new yorker can do this, this a festival of ideas? or is this supposed to be a dinner party? >> so when you look at the mile stones, we'll put it in the college context. when did it all turn? i thought college was the one place you could go and have free expression and trade ideas? >> in my book, it's a social sciences detective story him we look at what happened in 2013, 2014, prior to that, the best constituency were the students, themselves. few were going to get in trouble for what you said on campus, it was almost always administrators who got in trouble. attitudes shifted sometime around 2013, 2014 and the whole book is trying to get to the bottom of why. >> do you attribute it to any particular event? >> we think it's the entry of a new generation, igen, as they're called, people born after 1995. we also, not incidentally found some troubling stats about mental health out comes from people that are dramatically different from millennial's. >> well, dr. gene

steve benen he was going to challenge him on his ideas he was. not to give them a softball kind of interview yet that wasn't good enough for the left the intolerant left people like jim carey jimmy fallon and others who said if he comes we're not coming now and then because we don't like to hear the other side we don't like we don't like to hear people like us and you have to be clueless to not see that there is an association with steve benen policy and politics and the growth of white nationalist resentment in this country that you're seeing the rise in hate crimes you're seeing this kind of obsessive fixation on xena phobia and criminalizing all immigrants as if you know we're all rapists so i think that this is chris is also going. to like what the public thinks acceptable. but i would say that and yourself and well they just don't want the opposition to be heard period that's what that does they beat people up there the radical left they shut people down ecologists they don't want an exchange of ideas in this country they want one idea this

and steve bannon, i think, had a good retort to all of this. he said, after being contacted several months ago and with seven weeks of continual requests for this event i accepted the "new yorker's" invitation with no thought of an honorarium. the reason for my acceptance is simple, i would be facing one of the most fearless journalists of his generation in what i would call a defining moment, david remnick, the editor-in-chief, showed he was gutless when confronted by the howling online mob. it's interesting. what was the "new yorker" thinking if not controversy around steve bannon that follows him around. >> and this wasn't an interview -- david remnick is a fantastic journalist to be clear and that needs to be said and i think some treatment of him online was crazy, frankly but i do think that this is an ideas festival, not a typical interview, this is not a one-on-one, not a video for their program or the magazine. the "new yorker" has a pretty decided liberal bent and it has been pretty aggressive against president trump and in -- not just

there are a lot of people who dislike steve bannon. they don't like this tactics and the way he behaved in the white house. but isn't that all the more reason to figure out what makes the guy tick and what he tapped into? >> absolutely. what you tapped into in that monologue. this is the marketplace of ideas. a free, open democratic system. been jeanine franklin said whoever would overdue the freedom of nation must start by the subversion of speech. media matters are atwak they call conservative disinformation. what it is is attacking anyone who has an opposite point of view. those on the so-called left, groups like codepink protesting kavanaugh and front and center at the women's march are advocating for violence in the form resistance. so it's total hypocrisy. kennedy: it's so easy to get the mob riled up. that's what's so comical about it. all they do is boil down their summations into one pejorative, which is i will not normalize hate. >> they end up looking so cowardly. it's ridiculous to say having him would normalize. i have new

they just invite steve bannon. we'll explain. first, our fox affiliates around the country covering tonight. q13 fox in seattle has teachers in several washington state school districts staying out of the classroom on strike. others are meeting today to decide what to do. some teachers in a few districts have reached deals on new contracts. fox 47 in lansing says the president of usa gymnastics resigns in the wake of the uproar over former michigan state and team usa dr. larry nassar. he's been convicted on dozens of counts of sexually abusing athletes. carrie parry was only on the joy athletes blame her for mishandling the fallout from the larry nassar case. this is a live look at eden prairie, minnesota, from our affiliate fox 9. one of the stories there tonight, the fbi says it has recovered a pair of ruby slippers warned by judy garland in "the wizard of oz." they were stolen from a minnesota museum 13 years ago. they are 1 of 4 pairs of ruby slippers worn by garland in that movie that are known to exist. that is tonight's li

a similar controversy now involves steve bannon who in recent months has been make the airwaves in print as i did on cnn. some claim bannon is simply unimportant, irrelevant, and thus shouldn't be given a microphone. if that were the case, surely the media, which is a for-profit industry, would notice the lack of public interest and stop inviting him. the reality is the people running the "economist," t financial times, "60 minutes," the "new yorker" and many others who have invited bannon know he is an intelligent and influential ideologist, a man who built the largest media platform for the new right, ran trump's successful campaign, briefly in the white house as his chief strategist and continues to articulate and energize the populism that's been on the rise throughout the western world. the real fear that many of the left have is not that bannon is dull and interesting but opposite. that his ideas will prove persuasive to too many people. hence the solution, don't give him a platform and hope this will make the ideas go away. did the efforts of communist countries to muzzle capitali

. >> former donald trump eight steve then and -- former donald trump aid steve bannon was supposed to be interviewed bb david rrmnick. then came the bbck lash by the --ff team who accused remnick whoncluded jim carrry threatened to boycott the festival. been in has called -- steve bannon has called remnick gutlesss forhool has come under fire a scandalous back to school performance to kindeegarten children. it is unbelievable.% >> you have to be woodering what they were thinking. a sñ;@ matthew carney: we'veve come to one of thehe world's least hospitable places in the depepths of f winter. this is the time to find the practitioners of an ancient disappearing tradition, the last eagle hunteters of momongolia. to get to the authentic eagle hunters, we have to endure some extreme conditions,

several celebrities said they would boycott the magazine's event if steve bannon attended. jim carrey was among those protesters prompting the editor of the new yorker to rescind steve bannon's invitation. in a statement banning lashed out at the editor calling him gutless-- gutless. cheryl: big word. president trump criticizing the attorney general jeff sessions again. this time suggesting the justice department put republicans in midterm jeopardy with recent indictments of two gop congressman, duncan hunter and chris called one. the president tweeted: cheryl: lets up bringing cliff maloney republican strategists and howard, gray tabby air. >> good morning. >> good morning. cheryl: cliff, at the end of the day the justice department is about finding justice, calling out criminals and prosecuting crimes and building cases. do you think it's fair the president when after sessions on the timing of these indictments? >> no. i don't know what he's doing because the role of the attorney general is not to pick sides, not to pick teams. 's role is to enforce the rule of law, so i'

steve bannon and anne coulter. why liberals must listen to all voices even those they disagree with. but here's my take, for those who believe that donald trump is unconventional but canny, this week -- behind trump's ranting, impulsiv impulsive, incoherent and narcissistic facade, lies a ranting, impullive incoherent and that is cystnarcissistic ma. perhaps the main reason we are not appearing too far behind the curtain these days is that in general, things look good. the american economy is growing a bit faster than expected. trump tries to take credit for this nearly every day. tru and some credit is justified. the economy growth last year was 4.2%, and as you know was was headed down. the sweeping tax cuts freed up cash for businesses. this infusion of money, however, is likely to produce only a temporary bump, a kind of sugar high that comes from a massive increase in deficits and inequality. peace among the major powers allows for the continued surge of economic activity in most of the world. global zax aizat

a similar controversy now involves steve bannon who has been making the rounds in air waves and in print, including an interview i did with him on cnn. some have claimed bannon is simply unimportant, irrelevant and, thus, shouldn't be given a microphone. if that were the case, surely the media, which is a for-profit industry, would notice the lack of public interest and stop inviting him. the reality is that the people running the economists, the financial times, 60 minutes, the new yorker and many others who have recently featured bannon or invited him know he's an intelligent and influential ideaologist. a man who built the largest media platform for the new right, ran trump's successful campaign, served briefly as his chief strategist and continues to articulate and energize the populism that's been on the rise throughout the western world. he might be getting his 15 minutes of fame that will peter out, but for now, he remains a compelling figure. the real fear many on the left have is not that bannon is dull and uninteresting, but the opposite. that his ideas will prove seductive and

bannon in the face of backlash. those are some of the headlines. "the wall street journal" reports nbc is defending its decision last year not to move forward on journalist ronan farrow's story on sexual harassment allegations against harvey weinstein. the nbc news chairman issued a memo and an 11-page report to his staff yesterday. he said after eight months of pursuing the story, farrow did not have a single victim or witness willing to go on the record. he said the witness agreed to farrow's request to take the story elsewhere. farrow took the story to "the new yorker" magazine where his reporting won a pulitzer prize. farrow and his producer at the time say nbc impeded their reporting. >>> arizona central reports the body of a missing boater was found in the colorado river, but three other people are still missing. more than a dozen people were thrown from two boats when they collided saturday night. the body of the missing woman was found yesterday in a section of the river along the california/arizona border.

mess today because of what steve bannon calls his former lawyers' incompetence. is there a sense, you talk to rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer now, quite often and get reporting from him. is there a sense this whole thing, i mean, he says he would have done it differently. what is your read from your conversations with giuliani and how do they agree with this assessment by steve bannon? >> it's not just giuliani. i mean, you talk to many people in and around the president now. and look, to be fair to john dowd, hindsight is 20/20. he did feel back when the mueller investigation started that he had a good relationship with mueller. that he got the sense from mueller explicitly and from mueller's deputies this would be -- that this would move faster if the trump white house complied. and boy, did they. it really was to be fair to the trump team, they gave the mueller team everything that they wanted and then some in terms of documents and interviews. and didn't invoke executive privilege, which they could have done. and yes, there is a lot of shoulda, woulda,

the new yorker festival disinvited steve bannon after celebrities pulled out of the event. if steve bannon is that the new yorker festival i am out, i will not take part in an event that normalizes hate. jimmy fallon writing i am out. all three abandoned the former chief strategist now firing back calling the editor in chief gutless when confronted by the howling online mob. interested to know what you think as well. college no longer necessary for the world's largest companies. tracy carrasco with more on the trend away from higher education. google and ibm and apple, no longer requiring college degrees for a lot of jobs. i major shift from what employers were requiring. according to ibm, nontraditional education classes, good news for people who think going to college is too expensive and no pay off. this is something they will get, and those academic requirements being taken into account, those qualifications. >> that is good news. prices going up, you can get something free from one of my favorite places, chick-fil-a. >> we love the things that are free but they are giv

when we come back, steve bannon disinvited from a fancy new yorker event. why is everyone so afraid of him? mike huckabee will be here to analyze. stay there. this wi-fi is fast. i know! i know! i know! i know! when did brian move back in? brian's back? he doesn't get my room. he's only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. >> laura: time now for the latest installment of our defending the first series where we expose the enemies to the first amendment, free expression and free thought. the latest profile encouraged for a left-wing journalist has got to be going to new yorker editor david remnick, who invited former trump strategist steve bannon to a new yorker festival event. but when celebrity participants started to bail in protest, david remnick cancelled his appearance. joining me now with the reaction about this and the absurd anonymous column in "the new york times," former governor mike

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i spent 2 1/2 of the weirdest hours of my life in the breitbart embassy with steve bannon this week. i will say for those people who think steve bannon is no longer relevant, put aside from his hateful views. the guy is still out there with 25 people. he's got somewhere north of 5 million, south of $10 million. he's making dark films, propaganda films that he admits are propaganda to try to incite the trump base to make them fearful, the notion that they don't win the midterms and hold the house that trump is going to get impeached. >> is he riding the racism wave or anything else? >> he's riding the fear wave is what he's doing. >> which is racism. >> well, there's a lot of fear out there of a lot of things. >> anti-immigrant. >> he's still riding the alt-right train, but i will also say he's scrambling to get back in donald trump's good graces. knowing donald trump hearing steve bannon make the argument that this op-ed piece amounted to a coup -- >> i'm going to hate watching it. >> donald trump may like it. >> thank you. my thanks to john heilemann, daniel goldman. i'm nicolle wal

steve bannon throwing around a lot of profanity on his part in his direct address with those generals. >> lawrence, i think one of the many absurdities we have long forgotten about this administration, steve bannon was actually placed on the national security council in january of 2017. and one of the first orders that president trump promulgated as president of the united states. i can confirm you are in fact correct, i did not routinely hear that language in the situation room. it is not the language you expect to hear when you are debating and sometimes speaking about matters of life and death. everything from the iran deal to cuba, to matters of nuclear contingency. so it is not certainly par for the course in those settings. >> go ahead, david. >> one quick thing. you know, it's time for rex tillerson, gary cohn, and rob porter to say these things out in the open. this is how the president behaves. the public has a right to know, particularly before the mid terms. and they're cowards if they're sitting on these experience ands not sharing them with us. >> ned price, david corn, t

. >>> new yorker magazine disinvited steve bannon. the editor in chiefvitation aft pulled out of the event. after the bannon participation, jim carrey and judd apatow said they would not take part. > >> in a letter to the staff, he said he will interview bannon if the opportunity presents itself. bannon said he accepted the invitation to face-off against one of the fearless journalists. >>> the head of nbc news and reas ronan farrow speaking out over the harvey weinstein story. hinting they tried to kill the weinstein story. farrow's former producer said there were from the highest levels of nbc to stand down on the scandal. >> black bushed back with the document that describes the story not ready for broadcast. claiming he did not have a witness ready to go on record against weinstein. overnight, farrow tweeted a statement to contradict nbc claims. the list of sources is incomplete and omits women identified in the story or offered to be. the story was twice cleared and deemed reportable. only to be blocked by representatives who did

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jonathan: i wouldn't call john c calhoun the steve bannon of jackson. have a lot of informal advisers that he called his kitchen cabinet. had figures who were advising him quite strongly, and often radically, on policy positions. calhoun was not one of them. calhoun in jackson did not like each other and dated back several years. calhoun was very critical of jackson, even earlier in 1818 when he invaded florida. calhoun, who was secretary of war emma disagreed with that as well. so they didn't have the best relationship. host: professor pat has this tweet. andrew jackson seems to share views from both modern political parties. what is your opinion as to which party would be most comfortable with andrew jackson today? jonathan: that's a great question. i would say, i mean, jackson -- the republican party. one, head to choose would be a republican. but i only think he would be a republican in the age of trump. jackson would not have been a republican under george w. bush. he might have been a democrat under george w. bush. anna in new york. go ahead with

steve bannon said something interesting last week. he said this issue is just going to get bigger and bigger. he was and actually the role a big tech in society could be one of the dominant election issues by 2020. what you make of that? >> i think he's right. steve bannon does things that i still can understand. he has a lot of foresight and other areas. when i brought up and i presented to you what the terms are thinking about, 67% of conservatives believe the tech companies are anti- conservative. they believe that they will get their own vehicle. they will lead liberals to their own vehicle. then we will be in our own lanes and never talk to each other about anything. social media was once a place where we could collide. soon, will say i have no interest in what you're saying. you never going to be fair. in a way, that would scare me a little. if conservatives feel as though the conventional feeling is the trumps utilize social media much better and that's part of the main reason they want. they're still ahead when it comes to fac

my examples of that would be steve bannon leaving breitbart news to be steve strategists for trump, or john bolton, who was a commentator on fox leaving to become national security adviser? do you see those as similar, or is this a new thing, sort of a state run media type thing? the question is whether what is happening right now is a return to the partisan press and whether things like steve bannon, who ran breitbart coming into the trump campaign manager, john bolton who moved over from fox news, but also from the bush administration so he has a politics past, whether that returns to the same kind of politics or whether that is something different. there are similarities and differences. one of the main similarities is those newspapers in the 19 centuries were carrying out a party function. it was the messaging arm of the party. i actually think that conservative media today do that function for the republican party as parties have gotten weaker. i don't mean that identity parties have gotten weaker, but parties have lost their ability to exert control over their members and have go

if you want to understand his thinking you got to read the writings of steve bannon . and steve benen actually believes that america should be number one forever and of china's about to overtake we must undermine china and there is actually a strong school of thought in washington d.c. who believe that america should try to undermine and prevent china from overtaking it but it cannot be done it's a mission impossible china just by the sheer laws of mathematics with a population that is four times the size of united states of america if you think the average chinese even is even half as smart as the average american china will have an economy which will be twice the size of america. and as you know the chinese haris mart has and what he hopes and the mistake that these american thinkers are making is thinking that this last century's right of western domination is normal actually as i said it was an aberration because from the year one to the year it hundred twenty that the largest economies were always those of china and india so this aberration has to come to an end a

i was not a campaign chairman, i was not steve bannon or michael flynn. but i also wasn't serving coffee and i also don't think the campaign would have invited me to speak at the rnc if they viewed me as a coffee boy. >> you spoke at the convention? >> yes. >> not exactly. he spoke at an event in cleveland that occurred during the republican national convention, albeit it was along side heavy weights like corker. especially after trump announced him as a foreign policy advisor. >> george papadopoulos, he's an oil and energy consultant. excellent guy. >> critics seized on the fact that he had listed his time on a model u.n. as international experience. papadopoulos worked briefly on the short lived ben carson for president campaign where he says he helped prepare the candidate for debates. prior to that he ehad travelled to cyprus and israel, a conservative think tank in d.c. >> i jumped into working with very high level officials who had just left the bush administration. scooter lubby, so these were really my mentors. >> but it's the job papadopoulos had

>> steve bannon said the other day the "new york times" anonymous op-ed amounted to a coup, so i wanted to does that matter with him. >> stephen: jim. the op-ed reps a concern about the president's fitness for office, a decision not to try to remove him but instead to try to stay in office with him and keep him from doing some of the things they fear he would do in his worst moments. >> how is that a coup? what they have said is they're not going to implement the plans of the president of the united states. it's exactly like mcclellan. lincoln wanted to go to a hard war and they didn't want to do it. they didn't think he was fit to do it and -- >> you're comparing trump to link up? >> absolutely. he ought to do the exact thing lincoln did, fire mcclellan. >> stephen: do you think he says stuff like that because he wants back in the white house badly? >> oh, yeah, and i spent a fair amount of time thinking about it. lincoln wrote the emancipation proclamation and gave the gettysburg address, and donald trump can't pronounce the word "anonymous." ( cheers and applause ) ( piano riff ) >>

he wouldn't go to an event because steve bannon was there. he mocked a dead man, charlton heston. he went after the trump family. he has used extreme political rhetoric to bolster an ego diminished by bad choices. he should prove it. if you want to break bread coming should. >> judge jeanine: maybe with steve bannon. >> greg: he ran away like a little baby. >> judge jeanine: dana, i always felt when you look at these factors. they think they know exactly what we need or don't need. i've never seen a group of people who live by other people's words. that's what actors do. they don't say what they think or believe. they get up and just mouth but they are being told. >> dana: saying that democrats are facing a problem. socialism is going to be defined by republicans saying what the democrats believe it is. socialism, that's the definition, how it's being defined. if they say socialism but really made universal health care with a little bit of private-sector stuff, that's not happening. the democrats are way, way behind on that. he's onto something and i can imagine he's probably frus

>> i'm certainly not a campaign chairman or steve bannon or michael flynn, i also wasn't serving coffee. i don't think the campaign would have invited me to speak at the rnc the way they did if i was a coffee boy. >> you spoke at the convention? >> yes. >> not exactly. papadopoulos spoke at a cleveland during the time of the convention. still, resume patting is part of the papadopoulos mo, especially after president trump introduced him. >> george papadopoulos, and energy and oil consultant. >> reporter: critics seized after he was listed as model u.n. as a credential. he worked on the ben carson for president campaign where he says he prepared him for debates and before that, traveled to cyprus and the hudson institute. >> i jumped in with high level officials after leaving the bush administration. scooter libby, these are really my mentors. >> it's the job papadopoulos had just before he joined the campaign that seems to prove pivotal. this is the london center of international law practice. behind its unassuming brick facade lies one of the central mysteries of george papadopoulos's

i was certainly not steve bannon or michael flynn. but i also wasn't serving coffee and i also don't think the campaign would have invited me to speak at the rnc the way they did if they viewed me as a coffee boy. >> you spoke at the convention? >> yes. >> well, not exactly. papadopoulos spoke at an event in cleveland that occurred during the republican national convention. albeit it was alongside heavyweights like senator bob corker. still, resume padding is part of the papadopoulos m.o. especially after trump announced him as a foreign policy adviser. >> george papadopoulos, he's an oil and energy consultant, excellent guy. >> critics immediately seized on the fact that papadopoulos listed his time on a model u.n. as international experience. papadopoulos worked briefly on the short-lived ben carson for president campaign where he says he helped prepare the candidate for debates. >> join hands with me. >> and prior to that he had traveled to cyprus and israel as a researcher at the hudson institute, a conservative think tank in d.c.

just i think a few days ago, right come we learn the economist decide to give steve bannon platform. the new yorker did the same thing, and for some people might be an academic discussion to a somebody like steve bannon on the stage like this but i will tell you there are people every day who are targeted by violence because of the hate he preaches. so while we do need to be doing all of this work, it's clearly a delicate balance. >> dolly, your thoughts on the especially on the media component. >> absolutely. so one of the things i offer in my book that is earned through the running of the book and this was an example, something where i fall from beginning to end, is my understanding of heat and light affronts of social change and social justice. so think of heat is work that is confrontational. it's the protest, the work that does not worry about the comfort or the evolution of the people harboring the hate at all. and it is, it can be divisive as some people call it. light is more centering the people you're trying to change in their comfort and meeting them where they are and wil

. >>> new yorker magazine disinvited steve bannon. as the headliner of the festival and former chief strategist doesn't like it. the editor in chief rescinded the invitation. this comes after several big name participants claimed they would not join. after the bannon participation, jim carrey and judd apatow said they would not take part. apatow tweeting i will not take part in the event that normalizes hate. >> in a letter to the staff, he said he will interview bannon if the opportunity presents itself. bannon said he accepted the invitation to face-off against one of the fearless journalists. he goes on to say, what i would call a defining moment, he showed he was gutless when confronted by the howling online mob. >>> the head of nbc news and ro ronan farrow breaking their silence. andy lack e-mails employees to explain the network tried to kill farrow's reporting. the former producer quoted saying orders from the highest levels of nbc to stand down on the weinstein scandal. the story was published by the newspaper and won a pulitz

obviously steve bannon was very much on the scene and breitbart was in the news a lot. i actually hadn't heard of breitbart before. i went to the site and was pretty shocked to find a black crimes section. >> and you're looking at some of those headlines right now on the screen. >> yes. so those headlines really got to me. i'm in advertising, i'm in the advertising business. so i was just really curious as to who was supporting this from an ad perspective. and just going on the site, i saw, you know, one was a company from san francisco, that felt pretty weird to me. i started this anonymous twitter handle, and i just set it up and just tweeted at the company, because i knew that companies generally have someone on the twitter handle. they got back to me within a half hour saying they had no idea they were there. so that obviously went from, you know, being just a few advertisers to being who knows how many, because it was being placed programmatically. >> that's the key thing folks might not understand, is that there's a profit motive to hyperpartisan news, and even fa

when we come back, steve bannon disinvited from a fancy new yorker event. why is everyone so afraid of hi him? stay there. (male speaker) stop by bass pro shops and cabela's today for great labor day deals. like redhead pocket t's and henleys, 2 for $25. save 25% on this pro qualifier baitcast reel. and save $50 on this masterbuilt extra large temperature control smoker. (woman) learned ao play second language. applied to college. applied for a loan. started a business. started a blog. shared a picture. shared a moment. turn your wish list into a checklist. learn more. do more. share more. at home, with internet essentials. >> laura: time now for the latest installment of our defending the first series where we expose the enemies to the first amendment, free expression and free thought. the latest profile encouraged for a left-wing journalist has got to be going to new yorker editor david remnick, who invited former top strategist steve man into a new yorker festival, but when celebrity participants started to bail in protest, david remnick canceled his app

could come to fer set of v -- the "new yorker" editor saying steve bannon wa no longer invited. he won't be there. another example of sort of the backlash can change what we tack about. a number of instances like this. journalists with job offers pulled by some publications after a twitter backlash. google changed some government projects its working on because of twitter backlash and best of all, president trump often setting the agenda on television shows each day with what he's tweeting about and the massive response it creates. >> and twitter given the back it lash we se sometie sometimes on. when the twitter ceo joins several other tech executives this week to testify before lawmakers. give us a sense what we can expect to play out in the hearings? >> attacks before both side. sheryl sandberg from facebook and a google executive yet to be decided attacked from both republicans and democrats. all enter ing a dangerous area from platform to publisher. hiring engineers not journalist to police their content. now having to police content with people actually reading it and maki

steve bannon was the longtime head of the far-right-wing news outlet breitbart news, which frequently publishes white nationalist propaganda. indicate -- he became a top adviser to president trump. in new york city, the award-winning newspaper "the village voice" is shutting down after 63 years. founded in 1955 by dan wolf, ed fancher and norman mailer, the left-leaning paper was the first alternative weekly in the united states. last year, it stopped its print publication, and on friday publisher peter barbey said he is shutting down the influential newspaper entirely. in recent days, the natation pad tribute to the legendary singer aretha f franklin and senator jn mccain. on saturday, former presidents barack obama and george w. bush gave eulogies to mccain at his funeral at the washington national cathedral. president trump was not invited and spent the day golfing. speakers at aretha franklin's funeral in detroit included former president bill clinton, jesse jackson, and the reverend al sharpton who hailed her as "the soundtrack to the civil rights movement." and georgetown sociol

and i'm about to play you steve bannon, who was supposed to be trump's guy and goldstone talking about the view this meeting was treasonous. take a look. >> do you understand why us he says that? do you think he's right? >> there was a campaign chairman in that meeting, people have said to me shouldn't i have noun? shouldn't they have known? so yes, some of what steve bannon says, obviously, is correct. >> there are going to be people who hear you say that and say nobody is that naive. >> i get that. i us get that. >> howard? >> bingo. they are basically goldstone is heavy into the notion and with good reason that the trump people thought they were getting stuff from the russian government to help the trump campaign. that is actionable. that's criminal. that's a conspiracy. >> when you put it like that, it sounds bad. viewers can assess the credibility of all the assorted people coming up in their own mind. howard, thank you. >>> coming up, it is friday. that means it is fallback friday. we have a music producing legend kevin liles. g legend vin liles. ♪ the lexus ls 500 & ls 500 h.