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another bombshell breaking in the mueller probe is yes, there are tapes and mueller has them. he's listening to roger stone's confrjs calls from 2016 where he's heard saying he was at the time in touch with julian assange and revealing plans about the hacked e-mails before the election. shelby holiday broke this story. here, though, first, is roger stone on that conference call, august 4th, 2016. >> in the background of this entire race going forward, the fact that julian assange, who say anything you want about him, he's not a fool, is going to continue to drop information on the american voters that are going to roil this race. he has made that very clear. >> that same day, stone sent former trump adviser sam nunberg an e-mail that stated, i, quote, dined with mew nigh pal julian assange last night. stone later said that was just a joke, but it was sfebt days after that that he tweeted to the world, quoteerse trust me. it will soon be podesta's time in the barrel. we know he focused on stone's links to wikileaks and interviewed people about the calls. they were promoted as a
another bombshell breaking in the mueller probe is yes, there are tapes and mueller has them. he's listening to roger stone's confrjs calls from 2016 where he's heard saying he was at the time in touch with julian assange and revealing plans about the hacked e-mails before the election. shelby holiday broke this story. here, though, first, is roger stone on that conference call, august 4th, 2016. >> in the background of this entire race going forward, the fact that julian assange, who say...
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mueller's timeline. cnn has learned robert mueller's investigation has been cranking behind the scenes, even as it has been quiet publicly ahead of the mid terms. tonight, new details about when new indictments may come and what witnesses he's been interviewing. >>> we need saudi arabia. president trump defends what he calls a very important ally but denies the u.s. is trying to help saudi arabia cover up the suspected killing of the dissident journalist jamal khashoggi. leaker arrested. a senior u.s. treasury department official is charged with disclosing sensitive financial information about entities tied to president trump and russia including former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. >>> and media blitz. as white house press briefings become increasingly rare, president trump is talking up a storm in a series of interviews and impromptu remarks to reporters. is it part of a broader strategy to change the subject? >>> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wo
mueller's timeline. cnn has learned robert mueller's investigation has been cranking behind the scenes, even as it has been quiet publicly ahead of the mid terms. tonight, new details about when new indictments may come and what witnesses he's been interviewing. >>> we need saudi arabia. president trump defends what he calls a very important ally but denies the u.s. is trying to help saudi arabia cover up the suspected killing of the dissident journalist jamal khashoggi. leaker...
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except for up to now, when you have bob mueller. so it's a tough line for him to walk, the fact that he got called in, whatever this probe does or does not about. here is a class in his role in the campaign. it is roger stone who treated what they have on the others as a real proliferation. >> mimi, we've established you can't be intimidated, so i'll ask you, as i ask you all the time. where does it tell you this investigation is right now? >> they are still very clearly focused on stone. they are also listening to people like steve bannon. they're trying to figure out when stone said publicly. this is a way of testing what he said in confidence. that also tells us about what knowledge -- possibly what knowledge people had wherein these e-mails released when they were released by roger stone, and it could also be people in the pain that he created. i need you to talk about it. if americans are willing to take about what russia has done to the united states and what their role is in our politics. >> the heart of this question and the
except for up to now, when you have bob mueller. so it's a tough line for him to walk, the fact that he got called in, whatever this probe does or does not about. here is a class in his role in the campaign. it is roger stone who treated what they have on the others as a real proliferation. >> mimi, we've established you can't be intimidated, so i'll ask you, as i ask you all the time. where does it tell you this investigation is right now? >> they are still very clearly focused on...
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it shows how much mueller is doing. we think he's gone dark because there have not been public announcements or big, splashy indictments this fall but the special counsel's office is very much plotting along, building their case, and there could be some activity after the election. >> roger stone has said publicly that he thought he was next in mueller's sights and he looks like he might have been right. >> steve bannon has been in before, i believe that was reported by multiple news organizations. what does it suggest if he went back, not indicate but suggests for sure, suggest mueller gained new information that he needed to present to bannon the all-new information he had when he first interviewed bannon and it was months and months ago? this would be an indicator that the probe is obviously constantly getting more detail, that it needs to corroborate with additional witnesses, one of the big questions mueller has been trying to assess with everyone he interviewed is whether or not he's telling them the truth. as he
it shows how much mueller is doing. we think he's gone dark because there have not been public announcements or big, splashy indictments this fall but the special counsel's office is very much plotting along, building their case, and there could be some activity after the election. >> roger stone has said publicly that he thought he was next in mueller's sights and he looks like he might have been right. >> steve bannon has been in before, i believe that was reported by multiple...
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even though she has no experiences with mueller, she has never met mueller in her life. she goes on cnn sometimes and she talks about him as a guest expert commentator, but she's never actually met him. as it turns out, this was just the same person fishing for information over and over again trying to see whether he could get any kind of details out of these women. it's really just like ruth said, really sick and twisted that at this moment in the #metoo era this is being used to try to damage robert mueller. >> with the fbi on the case, i think we're going to be learning more about it. thank you both very much for joining us. >>> when we come back, we are now one week away from votes being counted on election night, an election that can break the republican lock on congress. and the president wants the country tonight and for the rest of the week to be arguing about his lie that he can end birth right citizenship by executive order, but, of course, he cannot do that. and so we will not be arguing about that. we will be discussing what the president doesn't want candida
even though she has no experiences with mueller, she has never met mueller in her life. she goes on cnn sometimes and she talks about him as a guest expert commentator, but she's never actually met him. as it turns out, this was just the same person fishing for information over and over again trying to see whether he could get any kind of details out of these women. it's really just like ruth said, really sick and twisted that at this moment in the #metoo era this is being used to try to damage...
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but where is the mueller investigation going? while bob mueller was appointed to investigate potential russian interferes into the 2016 election, his investigation seems to have strayed a bit far. this has been known to happen. one of our speakers today understand this phenomenon falwell when an investigation into a failed real estate investment involving a parcel of land along the white river in arkansas turned into an investigation about whether resident clinton lied and encouraged others to lie about an adulterous relationship with a white house intern during the course of the civil lawsuit that had been filed against him. assuming we agree that there are circumstances under which someone other than congress should investigate a president, what is the best mechanism for doing so? will such investigation investis inevitably be portrayed as being partisan? are there things that can and should be done to minimize the likelihood and to maximize the possibility that the public will accept the result of that investigation? and what
but where is the mueller investigation going? while bob mueller was appointed to investigate potential russian interferes into the 2016 election, his investigation seems to have strayed a bit far. this has been known to happen. one of our speakers today understand this phenomenon falwell when an investigation into a failed real estate investment involving a parcel of land along the white river in arkansas turned into an investigation about whether resident clinton lied and encouraged others to...
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mueller's investigators. you don't want to come back. i am guessing you don't want to be roger stone right about now. >> you sure don't. the irony about being roger stone right about now is that he is a self proclaimed dirty trickster. when you traffic in the dark arts you brag and overhype trafficking in the dark arts which is normally good for that brand expect for now when you have bob mueller squarely focused on you and you are seeing roger stone walking back saying that all of these things that i claimed were jokes and were not quite true. but it is a tough line for him to walk. just the fact that bannon was called back to talk about roger stone is a good reminder that roger stone is someone who whatever the probe does or does not turn up legitimately has been president trump's friend for 30 years and he was quite close to the campaign. roger stone was instrumental in installing paul manafort in the campaign and in the early days of the white house. depending on what the probe does find, it is not like a mere periphery figure. he wa
mueller's investigators. you don't want to come back. i am guessing you don't want to be roger stone right about now. >> you sure don't. the irony about being roger stone right about now is that he is a self proclaimed dirty trickster. when you traffic in the dark arts you brag and overhype trafficking in the dark arts which is normally good for that brand expect for now when you have bob mueller squarely focused on you and you are seeing roger stone walking back saying that all of these...
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that brings me then to bob mueller and the expansion of jurisdiction. the regulations are very clear, when you parse the words of the regulations under which bob mueller was appointed, you cannot have a rogue prosecutor out just deciding i think i would like to look into this and i would like to look into that without a check. it is very clear under the regulations that bob mueller must have the specific approval of rod rosenstein as the acting attorney general in order to open a new avenue of inquiry. what was not understood, as i try to describe in the book, this just illueluded the americ people and we can perhaps take part of the blame for not engaging in vigorous enough education but that wasn't our job. it was really congress's job and not ours. but in any event, it was absolutely clear under the independent counsel statute that for expansion of investigative authority, the independent counsel had to go to the attorney general of the united states. and then she would make the assessment and it was n non-reviewable. no, i'm not going to expand your
that brings me then to bob mueller and the expansion of jurisdiction. the regulations are very clear, when you parse the words of the regulations under which bob mueller was appointed, you cannot have a rogue prosecutor out just deciding i think i would like to look into this and i would like to look into that without a check. it is very clear under the regulations that bob mueller must have the specific approval of rod rosenstein as the acting attorney general in order to open a new avenue of...
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that's not bob mueller. it's laughable for two reasons. one, it's not the white shirt, starched shirt, straight arrow boy scout that we all know and love, but rather it's laughable because of the sloppiness with which this hoax was perpetrated. if you read the details into it where business phones are coming back to somebody's mom, and there are businesses created, llcs created in the last two weeks to kind of perpetrate this fraud, and linked in accounts with actors' photos on them, you can see there is an act of desperation as we approach the point where they can't find any real dirt on bob mueller, so they decided to do what desperate people do. they'll pay for what they need, and that's what we're seeing tonight. >> ashley parker, adam goldman at the other newspaper, the "new york times," wrote, the plot appeared to be the latest and one of the more bizarre in a string of comments by reporters as a hoax and a witch hunt. he has secured six guilty pleas and a trial conviction in the 17 months he has overseen the investigation. that is a
that's not bob mueller. it's laughable for two reasons. one, it's not the white shirt, starched shirt, straight arrow boy scout that we all know and love, but rather it's laughable because of the sloppiness with which this hoax was perpetrated. if you read the details into it where business phones are coming back to somebody's mom, and there are businesses created, llcs created in the last two weeks to kind of perpetrate this fraud, and linked in accounts with actors' photos on them, you can...
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and that brings me to bob mueller. the regulations are very clear. when you parse the regulations under which bob mueller was appointed, you cannot have a rogue prosecutor just deciding saying i would like to look into this or that without a check. it is very clear under the regulations that bob mueller must have the specific approval of rod rosenstein in order to open some new avenue of investigation of inquiry. what was not understood, as i tried to describe in the book, just alluded the american people and take part of the blame in not engaging in education, but hat wasn't our job but the justice department to engage. not ours. but it was absolutely clear under the independent counsel statute that for an expansion of investigative authority, the independent counsel had to go to the attorney general of the united states. there was that check in the statute itself. and then the attorney general would make the assessment and hers, was, i believe, not reviewable. and we can talk about that and there was no check to say no. we are not going to expand t
and that brings me to bob mueller. the regulations are very clear. when you parse the regulations under which bob mueller was appointed, you cannot have a rogue prosecutor just deciding saying i would like to look into this or that without a check. it is very clear under the regulations that bob mueller must have the specific approval of rod rosenstein in order to open some new avenue of investigation of inquiry. what was not understood, as i tried to describe in the book, just alluded the...
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she sent it on to robert mueller. she sent to it the special counsel's office so they at least know this was happening. ultimately, what we've seen over the course of today is that reporters have started to dig into surefire intelligence and this guy who supposedly had been hired to look into robert mueller's supposed past. now i mentioned a moment ago that the person hyping that a big scandal was about to break concerning robert mueller is sort of a little known pro-trump twitter personality. he is a guy named jacob wohl. that's who has been saying hey, this lobbyist is about to break this big scandal about robert mueller here. he's hired an intelligence firm, and that intelligence firm has done an investigation and found out this terrible thing about robert mueller. well, when you look into the intelligence firm here, it appears that the managing partner from this intelligence firm is in fact that pro-trump twitter kid who has been saying this big scandal is about to break. the top image that is backlit on the suref
she sent it on to robert mueller. she sent to it the special counsel's office so they at least know this was happening. ultimately, what we've seen over the course of today is that reporters have started to dig into surefire intelligence and this guy who supposedly had been hired to look into robert mueller's supposed past. now i mentioned a moment ago that the person hyping that a big scandal was about to break concerning robert mueller is sort of a little known pro-trump twitter personality....
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. >> mueller should be dismissed. >> robert mueller must be fired immediately. >> the call for the firing of robert mueller... >> he either pulls the plug now or this will be going on years from now. >> he has daily conversations with the hosts there. 's able to get his talking points out there. >> the fbi is a shadow government now. >> and what theyid in leaking this information was illegal, correct? >> absolutely illegal, and it almost becomes a soft coup in a sense. >> there is a cleaing needed in our fbi and department of justice. >> narrar: athe "new york times" that summer, they had a lead on what would become the biggest story yet. >> they had discovered anothertw meeting n the trump campaign and the russians. >> my colleagues and i had been doing some reporting on this, the idea that there was another russian meeting that we didn't totally understand, that had been undisclosed during the campaign. >> narrator: they learned donald trump, jr., had hosted t meeting with a russian lawyer, natalia veselnitskaya. also in the room: jared kushner and campaign chairman paul manafort. ...th
. >> mueller should be dismissed. >> robert mueller must be fired immediately. >> the call for the firing of robert mueller... >> he either pulls the plug now or this will be going on years from now. >> he has daily conversations with the hosts there. 's able to get his talking points out there. >> the fbi is a shadow government now. >> and what theyid in leaking this information was illegal, correct? >> absolutely illegal, and it almost becomes a...
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mcgahn said he wouldn't over the summer right after mueller's appointment. so you know that's kind of you know can friction between them is trump is frustrated and mcgahn was blocking that frustration. >> he doesn't know exactly what mcgahn said. >> great reporting. thank you very much, guy, don't go too far away. more of what we need to discuss. 11 rallies, eight states, six days to go until the mid-term elections, president trump sets out today on a frenzy final campaign swing ahead of election day on tuesday the central focus of his closing argument is a hard line stance on immigration. the president is clearly trying to refb up his political base. he shows no signs of toneing down the rhetoric, despite the tragedies and the tensions of last week. so where is the president going. what does that say about the state of the current race? our political director is with us over at the magic wall to talk about that a little bit. first, let's take a look at where he will be complaining and what that tells us about the republican strategy. >> that's right, wolf,
mcgahn said he wouldn't over the summer right after mueller's appointment. so you know that's kind of you know can friction between them is trump is frustrated and mcgahn was blocking that frustration. >> he doesn't know exactly what mcgahn said. >> great reporting. thank you very much, guy, don't go too far away. more of what we need to discuss. 11 rallies, eight states, six days to go until the mid-term elections, president trump sets out today on a frenzy final campaign swing...
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next with more on the new details of robert mueller's timeline. how much of the special counsel work will the american people actually get to see? plus, the new concern for the president tonight. what does it mean that his former fixer and lawyer michael cohen is meeting with federal prosecutors? this is an rxbar interruption to your favorite tv show. it's over now. [door closing] lowest price, guaranteed. just stick with badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com where people go to learn about their medicare options before they're on medicare. come on in. you're turning 65 soon? yep. and you're retiring at 67? that's the plan! it's also a great time to learn about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. here's why...medicare part b doesn't pay for everything. this part is up to you. a medicare supplement plan helps pay for some of what medicare doesn't. call unitedhealthcare insurance company today to request this free decision guide. and learn about the only medicare supplement plans e
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, doesn't know bob mueller. i don't understand why exactly she was pursued, why people thought if it is true that she would be prepared to say for relatively modest amount of money, ruin someone's reputation and put herself in the spotlight. it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, so i would like to see more facts come out. >> it is a very, very bizarre situation. let's talk about some of the other issues going on right now. >>> the president just a little while ago on the white house lawn as he was leaving the white house to head down to florida, he said that he hasn't been subpoenaed by robert mueller and his team, but do you expect the report from the special counsel in the coming months without an in-person -- not a written, but an in-person interview with the president? >> i do. i think the prospect -- we have been talking for some months, wolf, after, you know, weeks -- after weeks and weeks and weeks, that the president keeps maneuvering through his lawyers a way not to have an in-person interview. it is hi
, doesn't know bob mueller. i don't understand why exactly she was pursued, why people thought if it is true that she would be prepared to say for relatively modest amount of money, ruin someone's reputation and put herself in the spotlight. it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, so i would like to see more facts come out. >> it is a very, very bizarre situation. let's talk about some of the other issues going on right now. >>> the president just a little while ago on the white...
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matthew mueller. we said where is he? well, he's on the way to tahoe. >> they knew their next stop was south lake tahoe. they put in a call to the local sheriff to ask if there had ever been trouble at the cabin. there hadn't but a stolen car was just found near it and in it was a driver's license for matthew mueller. >> okay. now we have information to go on. >> with a search warrant and an arrest warrant the cops went to find matthew mueller. >> the neighbors watched it happen. >> i'm just peeking out my window, trying to get an idea of what is happening. >> more cars are coming. my whole front area is filled with dark sedans, like something out of the movies. >> neighbors were surprised but maybe matthew mueller was not. >> when we broke down the front d door, it didn't open all the way because it was barricaded. >> upon entry, i could hear my detectives screaming get on the ground, get on the ground, and your heart rate kind of jumps up, okay, he's there. >> this is mueller, just after he was arre
matthew mueller. we said where is he? well, he's on the way to tahoe. >> they knew their next stop was south lake tahoe. they put in a call to the local sheriff to ask if there had ever been trouble at the cabin. there hadn't but a stolen car was just found near it and in it was a driver's license for matthew mueller. >> okay. now we have information to go on. >> with a search warrant and an arrest warrant the cops went to find matthew mueller. >> the neighbors watched...
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muellerer absolutely believes he has a time pressure. who knows what takes place after the midterms. we've heard many republican congressional leaders suggest that, well, he shouldn't fire mr. session or anybody else until after the midterms. hey, if it's the wrong thing to do, it's the wrong thing to do now or after the midterms. let's remember, the watergate investigation took please 28 months from the day of the break-in to the time that the president left. this is a far more complicated investigation, and frankly, a far more important one. >> the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein has spoken out, strongly defending the mueller investigation, but he and the attorney general jeff session might not necessarily be all that safe after the midterm elections in 19 days. do you think mueller needs to wrap up his work to get ahead of president trump's possibly replacing the people who will decide what happens with mueller's final report? >> i think that's exactly what mr. mueller feels. i think it's unfortunate. it's a great concern. i'd
muellerer absolutely believes he has a time pressure. who knows what takes place after the midterms. we've heard many republican congressional leaders suggest that, well, he shouldn't fire mr. session or anybody else until after the midterms. hey, if it's the wrong thing to do, it's the wrong thing to do now or after the midterms. let's remember, the watergate investigation took please 28 months from the day of the break-in to the time that the president left. this is a far more complicated...
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what is true, what else does mueller know? we don't know the answers. >> we have some of those public statements from roger stone. let's watch. >> out of control special counsel robert mueller is now poking through every aspect of my personal, social, family, business and political life grilling my longtime associates in an attempt to fabricate some offense in order to destroy me personally and financially. i'm ready to fight. i will never roll on our president. >> a lack of -- i could be standing in a rain storm and he can tell me it's raining and i wouldn't believe him. there's a lack of credibility there. i wonder if you've got any reporting on how mueller is investigating the stone piece because i imagine and you've reported that he's also investigating or scrutinizing donald trump's public statements. and we know donald trump stood up in front of god and country and the press corps, of course, and made statements he might have known something was coming. >> some of the most famous things said by roger were, as you remembe
what is true, what else does mueller know? we don't know the answers. >> we have some of those public statements from roger stone. let's watch. >> out of control special counsel robert mueller is now poking through every aspect of my personal, social, family, business and political life grilling my longtime associates in an attempt to fabricate some offense in order to destroy me personally and financially. i'm ready to fight. i will never roll on our president. >> a lack of...
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>> mueller is preparing at least two roars. one of them is geared very much on the issue of obstruction of justice, whether the firing of james comey amounted to an obstruction of justice by the president, that rule and factual president. don mcgahn is a very important witness on that. that report i think will be coming out first. as for the length of time people are interviewed, paul manafort, as chris was saying for a very long time, it certainly is relevant to any report that -- that mueller may write, burks remember, he still has a grand jury. he could still be indicting people so the idea that he's closing up shop is not necessarily true, especially if more indictments come out. >> why did rosenstein do this interview? >> the issue is that he clearly cares about the public perception of this investigation and despite all of the tweets, i don't think rod rosenstein is trying to set up a dichotomy between he and the president but he sat down for a 30-minute interview on violent crime with "the wall street journal." it was su
>> mueller is preparing at least two roars. one of them is geared very much on the issue of obstruction of justice, whether the firing of james comey amounted to an obstruction of justice by the president, that rule and factual president. don mcgahn is a very important witness on that. that report i think will be coming out first. as for the length of time people are interviewed, paul manafort, as chris was saying for a very long time, it certainly is relevant to any report that -- that...
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after talking to mueller for 30 hours, will mcgahn have the last laugh. >>> mad cap mueller plot. an apparent conspiracy to smear the special counsel collapses as a right wing website removes a wild claim traced to an alleged con man. has the plot already backfired? >>> and transparent or not. after previously making a show of destroying a nuclear site without any real proof, kim jong-un may be taking fresh steps to show the world he's serious about getting rid of north korea's nuclear weapons, or maybe not. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news tonight. setting off a marathon campaign swing. president trump drops another diversionary bombshell, claiming up to 15,000 u.s. troops may deploy on the southern border to stop what he's already calling a migrant invasion. as the president hits the road for rallies in eight states, republicans in two key states have told him to stay away. gop officials fear he's running off the road with his abusive rhetoric on race and immigration, and his latest attack on the house speaker, pau
after talking to mueller for 30 hours, will mcgahn have the last laugh. >>> mad cap mueller plot. an apparent conspiracy to smear the special counsel collapses as a right wing website removes a wild claim traced to an alleged con man. has the plot already backfired? >>> and transparent or not. after previously making a show of destroying a nuclear site without any real proof, kim jong-un may be taking fresh steps to show the world he's serious about getting rid of north...
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things that they have told mueller. those are not likely to become public. we used to have a law that expired in 1999 that allowed these reports to become public. now we don't have that law anymore. it's going to be completely up to the attorney general's office whether or not they want to put these reports into the public and then whether or not president trump actually allows that. because he could invoke executive privilege on these. he could keep the reports out of the public view. >> the article says that after mueller turns over his report, the doj will decide whether to make it public. it goes on to say after crafting the report that mueller has significant leeway. he can theoretically be as expansive as he wants. likely, mueller will publicly address the questions. >> that's the whole point. mueller doesn't have to put in this report -- he can request budgetary goals and things like that. he can also put in this report if he's got guilty pleas, if he's got indictments, sentencing issues. things that will become public anyway. issues that the american
things that they have told mueller. those are not likely to become public. we used to have a law that expired in 1999 that allowed these reports to become public. now we don't have that law anymore. it's going to be completely up to the attorney general's office whether or not they want to put these reports into the public and then whether or not president trump actually allows that. because he could invoke executive privilege on these. he could keep the reports out of the public view. >>...
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tampered with or mueller folding or something happening with mueller. there is a real reason to bear in mind that rod rosenstein wrote the original memo that led to comey being fired which led to the appointment of robert mueller. i think that rosenstein has been at various places on this, and we don't know what was said in that private conversation. there is no reason to assume that the conversation was rosenstein drawing a line in the sand. >> david, how important do you think it would be for whatever report mueller puts together to give to rosenstein, that that be made public or that there is at least some sort of public explanation of the results of the investigation or decisions not to have any other indictments? >> i think it's extremely important. the country has been put through 17 months of drama, and now there are all sorts of questions about what was this all about? a what was going on in the trump organization? how should we make adjustments about this president, about his inner circle? and for us to then be shut out of that process and to h
tampered with or mueller folding or something happening with mueller. there is a real reason to bear in mind that rod rosenstein wrote the original memo that led to comey being fired which led to the appointment of robert mueller. i think that rosenstein has been at various places on this, and we don't know what was said in that private conversation. there is no reason to assume that the conversation was rosenstein drawing a line in the sand. >> david, how important do you think it would...
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she saidhe claim she has been h by mueller. they contacted the special counsel's office when it became clear these were not valid complaints. republican loblyist radio show host began promoting on facebook that he was investigating mueller. he sent a tweet saying he would hold a press conference to reveal a mueller quote victim. joining me now ken delanian. thank you so much. what are the players and what are they trying to do? why did they go to the special counselor's office? >> i'm not sure i can make sense of it. the e-mail you mentioned, reporters have looked and have not been able to find any evidence she exists. the law firm that was reference say they have no record of someone working there. reporters began suscting this was a hoax designed to get them to cover this story. there was another e-mail sent to a vermont law professor named jennifer tubb and she exists and it was from the company called sure fire intelligence and offering her money to talk about her encounter with robert mueller. she's never had any encounter
she saidhe claim she has been h by mueller. they contacted the special counsel's office when it became clear these were not valid complaints. republican loblyist radio show host began promoting on facebook that he was investigating mueller. he sent a tweet saying he would hold a press conference to reveal a mueller quote victim. joining me now ken delanian. thank you so much. what are the players and what are they trying to do? why did they go to the special counselor's office? >> i'm not...
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robert mueller is known for someone who doesn't like drama. who might want to take the path of least resistance. no caugdoubt it would result in further delay. it may be he's concluded whatever president trump says, he thinks will be of marginal value but he feels the need to give him the opportunity to tell his side of the the story so this is a compromise way of doing that. it locks president trump into a story. if he asks him, were you or were you not aware of the trump tower meeting in june of 2016, he has to say yes or not. whichever answer he says, he's now locked into that answer. he can't say one thing now and say something later. so there is some value in doing this. it sounds like robert mueller has reached a conclusion that whatever president trump tells him is likely to be of such little value, it isn't worth that big fight of a subpoena. instead, let's get these answers, check the box and move on. >> all right. and is his conclusion to focus on collusion? because based on our information it sound, like collusion is the focus of th
robert mueller is known for someone who doesn't like drama. who might want to take the path of least resistance. no caugdoubt it would result in further delay. it may be he's concluded whatever president trump says, he thinks will be of marginal value but he feels the need to give him the opportunity to tell his side of the the story so this is a compromise way of doing that. it locks president trump into a story. if he asks him, were you or were you not aware of the trump tower meeting in june...
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manafort is a key witness for robert mueller. he attended the june 2016 trump tower meeting and was trump's campaign chairman during critical moments such as the dnc e-mail hack and rnc's platform change on ukrainian policy to decidedly pro-russia policy. joining us, former federal prosecutor paul butler and john carlan, former chief of staff to robert mueller and former assistant attorney general for the doj's national security division. his new book "dawn of the code war -- america's battle against russia, china and the rising global cyberthreat" is one that only one of us here has finished reading, matt mueller. but we're all going to finish reading it. manafort's sentencing. any significance to it being so far out? >> again, mueller is a cold-blooded, relentless prosecutor. so basically -- >> cold-blooded in all the good ways. >> in all the good ways he made this deal with manafort. you're looking at 20 years in prison. you're 70 years old. so your choices are you can die locked up or you can bring me someone's head on a plat
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not being brought by robert mueller's team. this would be the united states by the trump justice department. what would the interaction be there if the u.s. attorney in the eastern district of virginia wants to bring this case. what would the interaction be like wean that u.s. attorney and the administration? how coordinated with this be? i'm asking what the trump justice department's role would be. >> any time the justice department decides to bring a case, that should be a surprise to the white house. it's not their job to give a heads up to the trump administration because the white house is not supposed to influence what investigations are open and what charges are brought. that's a separate process. there will be other cases in these u.s. attorneys office throughout the country. in the eastern district of virginia, in the southern district of new york that will going to be continuing to do this kind of work. both looking at some of the business activities of people in trump's orbit but also around election interference and
not being brought by robert mueller's team. this would be the united states by the trump justice department. what would the interaction be there if the u.s. attorney in the eastern district of virginia wants to bring this case. what would the interaction be like wean that u.s. attorney and the administration? how coordinated with this be? i'm asking what the trump justice department's role would be. >> any time the justice department decides to bring a case, that should be a surprise to...
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so here's the challenge if you're mueller. much of what we've already seen indicted on the russian side has got to have its origins in top secret classified, almost nsa and cia technical and human source information. think about it. they know the names, the dates, the racnks, the time of day tha hacking occurred. and they've dismantled the social media propaganda machine that putin moved forward through his friends. that's not something you read in magazines. so the question is, mueller is armed with all of this sensitive intel from the intelligence agencies. he's got do parallel construction. he doesn't want to expose those in court or in an impeachment proceeding report. he's got to get it from manafort, from flynn or from cohen or from roger stone himself to avoid exposing a top secret technique in court or in reporting. >> what do we understand from the mueller investigation to be of interest when it comes to roger stone? are they interested in roger stone's contact with russians? in his contacts with other trump campaign
so here's the challenge if you're mueller. much of what we've already seen indicted on the russian side has got to have its origins in top secret classified, almost nsa and cia technical and human source information. think about it. they know the names, the dates, the racnks, the time of day tha hacking occurred. and they've dismantled the social media propaganda machine that putin moved forward through his friends. that's not something you read in magazines. so the question is, mueller is...
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we've got a mueller investigation underway. presumably he is going to cover a lot of the questions that we were looking at. so before we know exactly how big we would want to be, we would want to hear from bob mueller and see what he determined and look to see if there were any holes we could fill. >> since you're on the house intelligence committee i also wanted to ask you about developments in the killing of jamal khashoggi in the consulate in istanbul. gina haspel, who is the director of the central intelligence agency, has been dispatched to turkey. do you understand the nature of that mission? what is your sense of what the u.s. is doing now? >> well, what i'm going to tell you is a little speculative. my guess is very senior people in washington -- the secretary of state, secretary of treasury, the president, head of the cia -- don't want to be caught under this rolling disaster of changing stories that is coming out of saudi arabia. the president of the united states, of course, has been all over the map on this issue, w
we've got a mueller investigation underway. presumably he is going to cover a lot of the questions that we were looking at. so before we know exactly how big we would want to be, we would want to hear from bob mueller and see what he determined and look to see if there were any holes we could fill. >> since you're on the house intelligence committee i also wanted to ask you about developments in the killing of jamal khashoggi in the consulate in istanbul. gina haspel, who is the director...
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so how does this guide mueller in your view? >> what this is, is the result of a lawsuit filed by protect democracy, an organization that thought they need transparency. historically some of the watergate materials, grand jury, which is typically secret material, had been released prior so they went in to try to get this plan, this road map released which was a result of the special counsel during watergate, getting the grand jury to not indict nixon but rather name him as an unindicted co-conspirator and send this road map, this plan of how they had proceeded, the evidence they collected against nixon, to the congress and the house judiciary committee which needed help. i was aware of it at the time, and historically it turned out to be a very important document. >> and now it has been released for all to see. thank you so much to all of you, john dean and ariane, appreciate it. >>> coming up, the fbi now being asked to investigate as we learn new details about who is accused of orchestrating it. >>> and the blame game, the pre
so how does this guide mueller in your view? >> what this is, is the result of a lawsuit filed by protect democracy, an organization that thought they need transparency. historically some of the watergate materials, grand jury, which is typically secret material, had been released prior so they went in to try to get this plan, this road map released which was a result of the special counsel during watergate, getting the grand jury to not indict nixon but rather name him as an unindicted...
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he met with him multiple times, answering questions about mueller's desire to fire robert mueller himself, to want to pressure jeff sessions to recuse himself. so this kind of is part of this big tumultuous relationship that has continued between these men despite meghan getting two supreme court justices on the bench for trump. a weird way to end this relationship with mueller fixated on the investigation while he's having his final good-bye chat with meghan. >> john, you heard her sort of explanation, a bizarre way to leave the building. is this all about the blame game? >> he gave rod rosenstein a break for the day and blamed somebody else for the investigation. the fbi had ample reason to start the counterintelligence investigation of russian meddling, ample list of questions about possible members with the trump campaign. jeff sessions followed a law book 101, first year law student directly. this is what the president does. he lashes out and blames others. he hasn't blamed don jr. for bringing russians into the trump tower in the middle of the campaign. this is what the president do
he met with him multiple times, answering questions about mueller's desire to fire robert mueller himself, to want to pressure jeff sessions to recuse himself. so this kind of is part of this big tumultuous relationship that has continued between these men despite meghan getting two supreme court justices on the bench for trump. a weird way to end this relationship with mueller fixated on the investigation while he's having his final good-bye chat with meghan. >> john, you heard her sort...
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no one knows what bob mueller has done but bob mueller. that article i was very jealous of, it had great forensic work in it. it clearly -- rudy giuliani shut up around mid-august and he had been the only one telling this narrative we were negotiating a letter. bob mueller has subpoena power. he doesn't have to do a written agreement with them. if those questions are uncomfortable and get to things like the president's finances, which they appear to, which is the third rail of this. i don't think trump cares about collusion. you know, he recognizes that he might have obstructed justice. but the real heavy metal in this comes into any financial dealings he's had with russia and the extent to which that established quid pro quos between his tecampaign, his transition team or the white house. >> and he doesn't think he's capable of colluding because as everyone around the campaign said at the time we couldn't collude with our press office. but that is spin. if you look at "the washington post" story reporting on steve bannon being back in wit
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lists scandals that took place when mueller headed the fbi and summarized with a statement that mueller is very dependent and highly politicized figure. therefore, there will be no honest and open results from this investigation. clearly, trying to stoke some of the suspicions that people already have about robert mueller. and this ongoing investigation that is still yet to wrap-up. >> because the russians -- the trolls were given specific instructions on how to operate how best to target americans, if you read this complaint over here. these were very, very detailed marching orders. >> yes. the complaint is chock-full of so much color and how they wanted to use stereotypes actually to target and exploit the divisions, including this, wolf. if you write posts in a liberal group, you must not use breitbart titles. in a conservative group, do not use "washington post" or buzzfeed titles. former senator john mccain is an old geezer. brand congressman paul ryan, a complete and absolute nobody, incapable of any decisiveness. special counsel, robert mueller, a puppet. accusing even cnn of yet
lists scandals that took place when mueller headed the fbi and summarized with a statement that mueller is very dependent and highly politicized figure. therefore, there will be no honest and open results from this investigation. clearly, trying to stoke some of the suspicions that people already have about robert mueller. and this ongoing investigation that is still yet to wrap-up. >> because the russians -- the trolls were given specific instructions on how to operate how best to target...
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mcgahn is at the center because trump once asked him to fire mueller, which mueller told him about in more than 30 hours of questioning. cnn reporting the trump grouft about the cloud, the investigation is casting over his presidency with trump fixated on mueller. meanwhile roger stone hiring a new lawyer who arranged a lie detector test to basically try to corroborate roger stone's statements about wikileaks, which comes amidst new reports this week that mueller has obtained any evidence on stone. those 2016 conference calls where stone touts his access to julian assange and talks of future information dumps. >> in the background of this entire race going forward, the fact that julian assange, who say anything you want about him, he's not a fool, is going to continue to drop information on the american voters that are going to roil this race. he's made that very clear. >> so that part is in public view. the audio obviously leaked. behind the scenes there is also a sealed effort to get a federal witness to testify -- that means only the feds know who their sealed witness is. but tonig
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special prosecutor mueller is a puppet of the establishment, lists scandals that took place when mueller headed the fbi. state the following, it is a fact that the special prosecutor who leads the investigation against trump represents the establishment, a politician with proven connections to the u.s. democratic party. never mind that robert mueller is a republican. it goes on to emphasize that the work on this commission is damaging to the country and is aimed to declare impeachment of trump. another article to be shared was one from the daily call were the headline "mccain thinking a wall will stop illegal immigration is crazy." instructions for sharing that article, quote, state that dishonorable scoundrels such as mccain immediately aim to destroy all of the conservative voters' opens as soon as trump tries to fulfill his election promises. or take this infowars article. "civil war if trump taken down." russians were instructed that when sharing that article, they should, quote, name those who oppose the president and those who impede his efforts to implement his pro election promis
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most are can feel in robert mueller's work. we reported on friday that the special counsel is continuing to lookroger phone and his associates. this is happening at a time when special counsel is shedding staff and signaling key witnesses are about to be sentenced. he's still questioning roger stone, what he knew, and what did he do with the information he had. roger stone sometimes says, you know, i predicted the release of clinton foundation e-mails, so i didn't know they had podesta's e-mails, with you the guccifer 2.0 persona released information on the clinton foundation. >> you know, i'll tell you one question i get sometimes when you host a television show is, why do you interview this or that person? >> good question. >> you throw a big enough party, some of your friends say this person need to be there or not? reasonable people can disagree about that. randy is one of those people that has asked about that. but our reporting, and our discussions with him, and i know you intersected with him, as well, have given insight
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with the mueller team impact his upcoming sentencing in february? >> yes. i think the manafort lawyers want very much for manafort to cooperate fully with mueller so that at the time of sentencing, mueller says to the court that manafort has been an important cooperator, and now that he went to trial, should be given the benefit under sentencing guidelines of some downward departure of the statutory requirement he faces. i think the plan now is cooperate to reduce the sentence he gets in february. we heard from sara that he has been there multiple days for multiple hours because he has a lot of topics as to which he can give information to mueller, so there is a good opportunity for manafort here if he has information and is forthright. >> and before i let you go, rosenstein testified behind closed doors in congress to talk about whether there was indeed any consideration of 25th amendment, wiring, all that kind of stuff. do you expect to learn much about his involvement with those allegations? >> no, not at all. i don't think anything leaks off the
with the mueller team impact his upcoming sentencing in february? >> yes. i think the manafort lawyers want very much for manafort to cooperate fully with mueller so that at the time of sentencing, mueller says to the court that manafort has been an important cooperator, and now that he went to trial, should be given the benefit under sentencing guidelines of some downward departure of the statutory requirement he faces. i think the plan now is cooperate to reduce the sentence he gets in...
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the biggest thorns in his side are the press and mueller. he tries to delegitimize both of them, undermine both of them. if he's going to be successful and he believes that impeachment is a problem, he has to continue to undermine both of them, and that's when he goes soout and ds that. i don't know if it's that calculated, but it plays right into that. he believes public opinion will determine whether he gets into real trouble if the democrats take control. >> i want to ask about your interview. he talked to you about khashoggi, and you guys reported a subtle shift from rogue killers did it to maybe my guy in saudi arabia's in trouble? >> yeah, but the president not wanting to go any further than that. this is a president who makes -- >> why not? >> he makes snap judgments on a lot of things. he'll say a lot of things very quickly, but similar to how he deals with russia, he's being very calculated here. he doesn't want to go any further than he has to. he's very disciplined about his messaging on this, and that's just something to take not
the biggest thorns in his side are the press and mueller. he tries to delegitimize both of them, undermine both of them. if he's going to be successful and he believes that impeachment is a problem, he has to continue to undermine both of them, and that's when he goes soout and ds that. i don't know if it's that calculated, but it plays right into that. he believes public opinion will determine whether he gets into real trouble if the democrats take control. >> i want to ask about your...
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what's behind the mueller side? >> it's really interesting that they seem to have bifurcated the inquiry that they are insisting on an interview on obstruction but they've submitted some questions or at least so we've been told on this issue of collusion. we have to remember that everything we know about this comes from trump's lawyers. we have no idea if this is the same way that mueller's team views what's going on between the two sides. so it's important to keep that caveat in mind. but this looks like it's just a way of keeping the dialogue going. written answers, they may give some interesting bright line distinctions like, no, i didn't know anything about collusion, but they really won't be worth much more than the paper they're written on in terms of evidentiary value. >> it seems like, though, joyce, what they could be inching toward is trying to have something on record. we know they have binders and binders of transcripts from the dozens of people who have already been through and answered questions about
what's behind the mueller side? >> it's really interesting that they seem to have bifurcated the inquiry that they are insisting on an interview on obstruction but they've submitted some questions or at least so we've been told on this issue of collusion. we have to remember that everything we know about this comes from trump's lawyers. we have no idea if this is the same way that mueller's team views what's going on between the two sides. so it's important to keep that caveat in mind....
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mueller has a lot of conflicts also, directly. you know that. mr. mueller is highly conflicted. >> i can say that the people who have been hired are all hillary clinton supporters. some of whom worked for hillary clinton. the whole thing is ridiculous. >> i call it the rigged witch hunt. i think that really hurts our country, and it really hurts our relationship with russia. >> so that is big. the doj moving forward on these 2018 election charges. meanwhile, there's a related seen playing out in virginia, where mueller's investigation into the 2016 campaign continued with its most high-profile guilty convict, paul manafort, arriving at this hearing in a wheelchair. that's the first time we have seen that. reporters noted he was wearing only a left shoe, that he looked visibly grayer, he was in a green prison jumpsuit with the words alexandria inmate on the back, and the judge was dismissing the ten deadlocked counts from the first trial, setting a new sentence date for february 8th, which means bob mueller has plenty more time to talk to manafort. h
mueller has a lot of conflicts also, directly. you know that. mr. mueller is highly conflicted. >> i can say that the people who have been hired are all hillary clinton supporters. some of whom worked for hillary clinton. the whole thing is ridiculous. >> i call it the rigged witch hunt. i think that really hurts our country, and it really hurts our relationship with russia. >> so that is big. the doj moving forward on these 2018 election charges. meanwhile, there's a related...
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the biggest thorns in his side are the press and mueller. what is he trying to do? he tries to delegitimize both of them, undermine both of them. if he's going to be successful and he believes that impeachment is a problem, he has to continue to undermine both of them, and that's when he goes out and does that, i don't know if it's that calculated, but it plays right into that. he believes public opinion will determine whether he gets into real trouble if the democrats take control. >> i want to ask about your interview. he talked to you about khashoggi, and you guys reported a subtle shift from rogue killers did it to maybe my guy in saudi arabia is in trouble? >> yeah, but the president not wanting to go any further than that. >> why not? >> well, he makes snap judgments on a lot of things. he'll say a lot of things very quickly, but similar to how he deals with russia, he's being very calculated here. he doesn't want to go any further than he has to. he's very disciplined about his messaging on this, and that's just something to take note of. >> he usually does t
the biggest thorns in his side are the press and mueller. what is he trying to do? he tries to delegitimize both of them, undermine both of them. if he's going to be successful and he believes that impeachment is a problem, he has to continue to undermine both of them, and that's when he goes out and does that, i don't know if it's that calculated, but it plays right into that. he believes public opinion will determine whether he gets into real trouble if the democrats take control. >> i...
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mueller acts as if there's no regard to partisanship. there are fourth coming indictments, you need only read rosenstein's comments that you need evidence that each person on the team is dispensed with, you have another box checked, and if you tell me there's evidence coming forth are mare taurus. it's in direct contrast with what the president has said about this being a witch hunt all along, so perhaps rod rosenstein is saying if i am leaving and sessions is leaving after this mid-term election is over, i want the american people to know there should be faith about the forthcoming report and indictments. >> didn't bring up michael cohen, and he has been meeting with investigators including questions about the trump organization and finances there, and when michael cohen is in the news the president can't help but comment about it. listen to what the president told the associated press. he was not in trouble for what he did for me, but what he did for other people. he represented me little, it's a very low level -- i am having a hard ti
mueller acts as if there's no regard to partisanship. there are fourth coming indictments, you need only read rosenstein's comments that you need evidence that each person on the team is dispensed with, you have another box checked, and if you tell me there's evidence coming forth are mare taurus. it's in direct contrast with what the president has said about this being a witch hunt all along, so perhaps rod rosenstein is saying if i am leaving and sessions is leaving after this mid-term...