of other saudis. and it's unclear which way this is going to turn out, which way will this young man turn. but certainly the khashoggi event, if it's true he was murdered, this is going to be a watershed moment inside saudi arabia, and for those countries around the world that have close relations with the kingdom. madawi, you have been hoping for some kind of change in saudi arabia for a long time. do you see this as a watershed moment? not under the leadership of mohammad bin salman. i have lost hope that there is scope for reform in saudi arabia, simply because we have heard the story of reform for several decades, and the more it reforms, the more it stays the same. and, infact, we're seeing worse scenarios. madawi al—rasheed here in london, and nick burns, i thank you very much for being on hardtalk. thank you. hello there. storm callum is approaching, and it is set to bring us some pretty wet and windy weather over the next few days. on thursday, it was a breezy day, with a few showers around.

the saudi regime. let's not forget that saudi arabia depends for its security on the u.s. therefore, he began to write critically of the time of mohammed bin salman and his reform. not all of them. he appreciated some of them. for example, giving women the right to drive, introducing cinema and theater in saudi arabia. havee was desperate to freedom of speech and saudi arabia as a journalist. for arted writing different audience, and english speaking audience, which probably worried the saudi khashoggi knows too much perhaps, and they did not want this to go further. himhere was the story of attending conferences in london and going also to is simple until we saw that video of him entering -- going to is simple and to we saw him in the video going into the consulate looking for a document, the story we g t from h his fiancee, who is waitg for him outside the consulate, that he needed a document to say he divorceced his wife in saudi arabia and therefore he willll e able to remarry in turkey. this is th

we agreed with the saudi's. we supported the saudi decision. i think that was t the right decision at the time and i think still we should be helping the saudi's achieveth legitimate subject as well try and also to push for a political resolution of the conflict. >> usurped in yemen during your time in the state department? >> from 2010 to 2013. ! gerald feierstein with us for the next 15 minutes taking your calls on u.s. saudi relations on this investigation that continues into the disappearance, the presumed to a journalist jamal khashoggi. democrat, good morning. >> turned on your television. >> okay, okay. [inaudible] so that democracy and don't forget today is the international day for the a ratification. for three years to adapt the poorest country has been rocked wracked by a bloody war. the saudi unit cooler is killing 113 children a day. the humanitarian crisis is considered the worst in the world. thiswo political consideration shouldn't forget what is being done. we shouldn't support saudi's and i'd be so happy to know your comments

today on a weekend in saudi arabia? they're still rounding up the weekend there, because secretary pompeo reportedly gave a 72-hour deadline to the saudis to come out with something, and sources said that they knew that they had to meet the deadline and they wanted to meet it. now, as clarissa said, a lot that is unknown, particularly what was the mission here, the mandate. was it just to interrogate jamal? was it to render him, to kidnap him and bring him back home? what did the crown prince know at that time. sources say the saudis know no one is going to come out looking good in this, wolf, but they're going to try to be as upfront as they can, but you also saw, you know, saudi supporters, supporters of mohammad bin salman saying tonight that the perpetrators need to be brought to justice but at the same time the stability of the kingdom, the stability indeed of the region is at stake, wolf. that's really in the minds of the saudis and the united states and even the turks as they work their way through this. >> i wan

the saudi leadership was killed soon after entering the saudi consulate in istanbul on october second claims the kingdom calls of baseless lies turkish officials still haven't been allowed into the consulate to investigate those pressure on saudi mounts several u.s. media organizations and business leaders have pulled out of a major investment conference in riyadh what was dubbed devil's in the desert is supposed to promote saudi crown prince mohammed bin simons reform vision for the kingdom the financial times bloomberg c.n.n. new york times and reporters from the economist and see n.b.c. wall now not to be going the c.e.o.'s of viacom one of the founders of a.o.l. have also said they won't be attending other business leaders are reassessing their ties with saudi arabia richard branson founder of the virgin group has suspended investment talks in a space venture and involvement in two saudi tourism projects former u.s. energy secretary ernest money is is backing away from bin simon's dream megacity project neil binns armin's twenty thirty vision seeks to radically change the image of

as far as saudis. contribution to the first vision fund was supposed to be forty five percent or forty five billion and they were looking to launch another hundred billion fund . and saudis were going to put another forty five billion another forty five percent down so yes a very very big contributor it's not so easy to find alternatives if they pull out but i don't think saudis will pull out. i think it is in their benefit to to to stay in it and i think the fact that so on sun sun i decided to go to riyadh but not attend the conference i'm pretty sure that's already had the blessings of the saudi government they understand that you know if someone does show up in the conference you know i might send the wrong signals for the vision fund then the saudis on the vision front to succeed will softbank be able low to to launch another fund for investments in the tech world as was planned. that depends on you know whether the saudis will participate in the future because another said that they want to parti

saudi relations. mr president i know one thing has you concerned jamal a saudi working for the washington post has disappeared in the turkish embassy they have video going in and not going out and there's rumors that he's dead i heard the washington post reporting that you're extremely frustrated with the lack of answers we know they chaired cushier your son in law is very tight with the crown prince and the crown prince calls the shots in saudi arabia you're tight with them to what's it going to take to get some answers what we're looking at it very very seriously i don't like it at all now you know you don't have american citizens but that in this case doesn't matter i don't like it i don't like it with respect to reporters it's a terrible terrible precedent and we can't let it happen and we're being very tough and we have investigators over there and we're working with turkey and frankly we're working with saudi arabia we want to find out what happened he went in and it doesn't look like he came ou

arabian partnering with saudi arabia is a very. calculation of how israel should go ahead world because they see that saudi arabia at the moment is the most potent ally that put a lot of. premised on the believe that saudi arabia is rational actor and control is not only its own decision making but also its proxies but all of that has been called into question by the recent events i think i think the saudi paul. for example. focused a lot on the intelligence intelligence which is very pragmatic which is closer to israel i would say. there's a very strong link between the israeli intelligence operatives on the saudi intelligence operatives and i would say. overall here. we have to leave it there but i really appreciate your coming in. thank you very much . thank you he's our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and. same place same time here on worlds apart. tracking gave americans a lot of new job opportunities i needed to come up here to make some money like me twenty five thousand dollars as a teacher

ambition how much of an obstacle is the case to the broader saudi agenda i would say that the saudis will be even more. well i think if he stays in power and i think it's likely that he's going to stay in power i think you'll have to show that he was not undermined but he will i think you'll be more kind of geopolitical political ventures and the conference that the reference earlier on. in the desert i think was designed in part to facilitate. the future. of that country you mentioned that a number of companies had to pull out under the pressure from the public which kind of shifted the spotlight onto the very relatively small russian delegation there do you think it was wise on the part of the russians. rather than pull out. i think it was was a lot of chinese came a lot of a lot of. americans to. i think. for a businessman to pull out of an event where a lot of money is at stake. at the moment is going to break between business. doing business and social stuff human rights all of the. values and that's ok that's business as business now you wrote before that the russian relations

we agreed with the saudi's. we supported the saudi decision. i think that was the right decision at the time and i think that still, we should be helping the saudi's achieve what are their legitimate objectives while trying also to push for a political resolution to the conflict? >> user in yemen during your time at the state department. >> i was a massacre from 2010 to 2013 and gerald feinstein with us for the next 15 5 minutes, taking your calls on saudi relations on the investigation that continues into the disappearance, the presumed death of jamal khashoggi. thank you for waiting in georgia, a democrat . >> caller: >> didn't say anything to his crown, king salamon because he straight up deals with saudi's. so many democracies and big saudi money and don't forget that today is the international day for eradication of poverty. for three years, this country has been wracked by a proxy war, the saudi us war and it's killing 413 children a day. in its human humanitarian crisis in the world. this political consideration calls us to forget what i

of the saudis and in the region they must be laughing at the saudis are the blunders the saudis are making the problems they are making and the creating for them for themselves so we still actually need to do nor so many. as to the questions that have been asked about that about. to understand the full scale of this case and how the turks will be responding how the americans will be responding how the whole international community actually responding because violating the sovereignty of a contrary in this flag and we actually is going to have some sort of a response by i think so many countries because nobody would like to see somebody killed on their territories that we or disability actually and the activities that we actually just a hotshot she did in istanbul well embezzler murphy we heard now from president trump we also heard. calling for transparency you have you were posted in riyadh you know how it worked you know how relation between a communication between washington and riyadh work so apart from the public statements do you think they are now talking and what kind of ans

crown prince now speaking to saudi experts here people very familiar with the way that saudi politics works they say that the idea of for example fifteen men who all of which are relatively close some very close to the saudi leadership arrived here on so these to government sources say to jay it's. the idea that this was not officially sanctioned by the crown prince they say seems completely in conceivable . i think it's very interesting looking at the fact that the u.s. six to state has gone to riyadh and he's meeting with the king it was very interesting yesterday also on the twitter there was a lot of twitter feeds that were showing pictures of the king of king solomon. less it's safe to say all of the crown prince and i think this meeting between. and the king would suggest that we might actually be seeing some sort of sidelining going on all of the crown prince the saudis obviously very embarrassed seemingly by this crisis we know that they have ruled certainly there was an announcement yesterday that the saudis have launched. own investigation and internal investigation into wha

of reactions against saudi arabia threatening by sanctions but saudi arabia is also trying to form an alliance by itself the spider its diplomatic. initiatives with turkey we have seen oh i see countries showing solidarity with saudi arabia and saying that saudi arabia has a recent reforms actually which are mainly led by the crown prince mohammed bin selman were being targeted also we have heard mahmoud abbas from palestine and jordan and united arab emirates is saying that they are standing by saudi arabia mainly sell. ery b. a is also turning out this case that they are the saudi arabia itself is the whisked him. to case despite an offer by crown prince mohammed bin still man the saudis still have turkish investigators into their compound but the consulate is still conducting business and shell reports from istanbul opposite the salad you consulates there is a company that deals with issuing visas that's the larger and smaller pilgrimage that muslims make to mecca in saudi arabia now this company as well as a few others that are scattered around the building say that they are still

saudi. a. movement in the region we've seen how the saudis and the mighty bookit of qatar we've seen how they went to war in yemen now they've done a lot of things in the region however that it will certainly be beneficial for but i think as you know some tightening up their hopes around saudi arabia especially around have been sad man himself however that is also an incident of the the look of the moment for qaddafi and how do you moment for half of what i said at the time it's not unprecedented meaning that these two incidents also occurred in a similar fashion the new thing here is that this is happening not when a leader that has been there for a while that has been understood to be against weston dr against western wishes but this is somebody who is a close ally to washington who was a close ally to the west who considered himself to be a former marketing himself actually in the west as somebody who can exact change in saudi arabia that is to make it more similar to the western context so.

as normal is the problem to saudi crown prince wanted to show he could boost the saudi economy that it could go beyond oil real estate and big infrastructure construction that it could trigger invest or to kickstart a knowledge economy to kick start an industry of robots especially to build heats touristic c.t. but all that seems enjoy your party because these needs fresh capital not just recycling the oil rent but having investors from abroad from the west from china and japan coming this is less promising to also get what you're saying where does that leave vision twenty thirty then well might happen in twenty fifty. more seriously i think that. for now the momentum is not there and so they are very unlikely to have the kind of diversification the wait is now they are very unlikely to have the kind of diversification they aspire to where they have to raise more debt then to fund some of these twenty thirty projects that could be a solution where will that leave the deficit budget deficit well that's the main concern because especially this year they have a significant budget defic

/saudi relations. the trump administration has already made a grave error by giving mbs, a young man with very little knowledge and very little judgment in how he conducts affairs, basically a blank check to do whatever he wants, including kidnapping the prime minister of lebanon, including bombing yemen, including blockading qatar. the crown prince has made a lot of mistakes. we need to hold him accountable because it's pretty clear he was responsible for this operation. it doesn't mean we're going to break with saudi arabia, but mbs has only been crown prince since last year. there are a lot of princes who could take his place who are not implicated in this murder. if donald trump doesn't insist there's some accountable, that will send a grave message to the world. a, a message that the united states is abdicatingilities moral authority, and b, it sends a message of weakness on the part of donald trump because he is re-enforcing the message that he bullies the weak, people like stormy daniels or chri

saudi and state media say that he died in a fist fight in the saudi consulate in istanbul. 18 saudis have been detained in the case, five high ranking saudis have been removed from their position. there has been no word yet on what happened to khashoggi's body. >>> president trump was asked by a reporter if he found the saudi explanation credible. the u.s. president replied i do, i do. but some in congress aren't buying it. lindsey graham tweeted to say i'm skeptical about the narrative is an understatement. >>> at least 55 people are dead, 60 others injured after a train plowed into a crowd celebrating a hindu festival in northern india. police say the train barreled through the people who were using fireworks as part of the celebration near the tracks on friday night. so they didn't hear the train as it was coming. >>> the journalist jamal khashoggi wasn't afraid to ask hard questions. even when doing so put his life at risk and sent him into exile. >> his reporting exposed corruption and secrets in the saudi kingdom. nic robertson explores khashoggi's life work. >> reporter: jamal

relations with saudi arabia. because, after all, this man was a contributor to "the washington post," there was an attack on the press, in a nato country, there is no excuse for this. and i don't think the president's going to get away with it, claiming it was a rogue operation. anybody with any sense is simply not going to believe it. >> quickly, is it possible they can claim that nbs had no idea this was happening? >> i think they will, but here's the thing. is the turkish tapes and the intercepts that have been going on, but there was a concerted effort for nbs to get him back, as we know, from the intercepts, back to saudi arabia, and all arrows point to him. >> bob and karen, thank you so much. a quick break. more on our special coverage after this. (vo) this is not a video game. this is not a screensaver. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's own immune system, thanks to medicine that didn't exist until now. and today can save your life. ♪ ♪ but allstate helps you. with drivewise. feedb

forcesf saudi arabia. most important, including one of the kingdom's top for the experts, man who prides himself as being one of the top autopsy experts in saudi arabia. they flew in that morning. flightsw in on several and they all flew out on private jets that are linked or owned by companies linked also directly to mohammed bin salman and the saudi royal court. since then, the evidence that the turkish authorities have has been shared with the u.s. intelligence community. are trying to walk a tightrope. they were tried to get some sort of support from their allies in nato as well as the europeans. interestingly enough,, it's made by u.s. intelligence community, several american outlets where they describe the evidence for there were shown by the turks as truly shocking. for them to describe it, considering they are the intelligence community that were behind things like abu ghraib prison as well as guantanamo and other hugely distasteful incidents, it goes along way to show just how gruesome the details

i think the saudis. they have one narrative which basically the repeat that was basically they deny that she said well i his and you have and they invited the to your government to come to them consulate and they have and the authorities they have one choice left was basically relying on their own resources and this resources started from the consulate itself was happening surrounding the consulate itself and also depending on the other resources what happened from the airport to the concert i think the reason why we see this conflict of the statement is actually putting all of the parts of the puzzle together which i think take some time and i think some statement actually taken just some of the events all of this out of the context of time. mahmut i mean we've seen senior officials quoted by local media and by also news agencies saying that. turkish officials believe that the there were fifteen diplomats who came from saudi arabia all the way to into into the embassy of the time when. she was there tho

was killed in a saudi consulate. i'm richelle carey this is al jazeera life and also coming up the pastor at the center of a diplomatic dispute between the u.s. and turkey is in court for his latest hearing a funeral is underway in bulgaria to remember a journalist who was raped and murdered. and how devastating floods in nigeria could cause a shortage of food. american media is reporting that the turkish government has told us it has proof that journalist was killed inside the saudi consulate in istanbul he was last seen walking into the building on october second to get documentation for his upcoming marriage decker as live for us and. there's not been a lot of official confirmation on the record from turkey but there are so many things coming out and leaks and the details of things were hearing are are startling they're jarring what else do we know. that's right it seems ankara is using the media to get their message out without officially going on camera and the latest ones are extraordinary allegations richelle

congress called for sanctions against saudi arabia in a letter to donald trump and also the treasury secretary steve has added his name to the growing list of international figures who've withdrawn from the forthcoming financial conference in rio it's the davos in the desert get together that we were talking about with jamal in istanbul we'll get latest reaction from the white house correspondent shortly but first mike hanna wraps up the developments of the states in the past twelve hours or so. it was a somber president trump who for the first time publicly acknowledged the possibility that jamal khashoggi is dead it certainly looks that way to me it's very sad gently. he says he's still waiting for the results of various investigations but if there's evidence there will be serious consequences for saudi arabia have to be very severe i mean it is bad. but we'll see what happens trump's comments follow the meeting with the secretary of state mike pompei oh who briefed the president on his meetings with saudi and turkish leaders there are lots of stories out there about what has happe

saudi saudi arabia is a feudal e and it thinks with all its money taken by off international communities and till now acts have proved them right. we've got this brutal murder and we got the genocide of the human people. please listen to the european parliament have because we've asked for an embargo on sales, of arms to saudi arabia. we for very many lies from saudi arabia. we have to be brave. you have to be brave so we have to promote a ban, and embargo on arms to saudi arabia. we have to act and show what we can do through facts, not worse because otherwise as was said, the very powerful gentleman is mr. money. .. >> hopes for new saudi arabia prepared to reform and respect human rights under mohamed bin salman. but these changes are more cosmetic than substantive. of what happened on the 2nd of october, well, it's hard to believe the description. he went into the consulate, never emerged and never emerged alive. he probably came out in pieces in a case. it seems that this was described as a rogue operation by the secret services but, obviously, this means that the crown prince and t

all of this underscores the degree to which the world gets rich off of saudi arabia and saudi arabia gets rich off the world and that comes in the way of condemning a possible human rights violation. >> it also illustrates why we are seeing the saudis have reversal on this. you know, we have been talking to saudi officials and saudi sources who say the kingdom is used to human rights criticisms. they're used to being seen as somewhat of an outcast in the global stage. they're not really that concerned with their reputation when it comes to a lot of those peripheral issues. but really, pulling out of this huge business conference, the economic ties, that is hitting saudi arabia where it hurts. and particularly for crown prince muhammad bin salman, his entire leadership is predicated on this vision 2030, this new economic plan for saudi arabia to try to diversify its economy beyond fossil fuels, really become a modern country that trades and has foreign investment. and when you see foreign businesses pulling out of saudi arabia at this alarming of a rate and signaling that they don't f

has gone back to saudi arabia and she said we have communicated with the saudi ambassador we expect information upon his return to the u.s. but dare and you can hardly expect that ambassador who is the younger brother of the crown prince to come back and say yes indeed we are responsible ok john hendren they in washington john thank you let's bring in jeff stacey's a former state department official who served in the obama administration he joins us live from washington d.c. jeff there are reports that they'll now be a joint to saudi team to investigate disappearance but with both countries having completely opposite political and diplomatic objectives in probing this case how tricky is that really going to be. that is going to be incredibly tricky if these accusations are true we really have an impartial investigator on our hands here and that is not likely to satisfy either folks here in washington or in brussels or in london and other capitals who are demanding explanations for this the best case scenario and this is saying a lot because the circumstantial evidence is mounting in this case t

the saudi era parents but. it's a dangerous game to play if he plays his cards as it were too rough for peace to insist there are too forceful things could rebalance so he's trying still a little bit carefully. the turks seem to know what happened in great detail who may have been responsible and we are not bringing them in front of a turkish court seems unlikely but they're pushing on with their inquiries and promise to soon sure what they know with their allies and the rest of the world alan fischer al jazeera istanbul and now to charles stratford in istanbul charles just a heads up we are waiting to hear from the u.s. president to the next few minutes so if i have to interrupt you my apologies in advance but can you bring us up to date with the investigation in istanbul right now. we heard earlier from the government that. has been clearance now given by the saudi side of the team to investigate have a sora look at this well in the garden of the consul general now it's been a week since the first team went i

has to end its involvement helping saudi arabia. sites in yemen they're not going to be willing to let this go and it is seems that the administration has heard that message let's hear from the secretary of state mike brown peo earlier today. will certainly consider a wide range of potential responses but i think the important thing to do is that the facts come out when i travel to saudi arabia i met with the king i met with the crown prince a great length of it with foreign ministers you there and made very clear to them that the united states takes this matter very seriously that we don't approve of extra digital killings that we don't approve of that that kind of activity that is it's not something consistent with american values and that is their responsibility as this incident happened in their consulate is their responsibility get to the bottom of this. will so that we have might pump a zero saying that the u.s. doesn't approve of extrajudicial killings that crime conflicts with u.s. values and here we have the saudis admittin

inside the saudi consulate. is that firstly any precedent any other cases that you can think of in recent history that of have been successfully prosecuted under international law or is this very much a unique case and the world is trying to figure out what steps to take next. well let me give kind of a typical lawyers answer by starting by making distinctions there isn't at the moment at least the prospect of prosecution as you said under international law there may be basis there certainly would be a basis for prosecution of the culprits if they can be identified under saudi law but they again because of the inviolability of the consular premises it would be next to impossible i think for the turkish government to conduct any kind of a successful trial of individuals first of all they would never be delivered to turkey by by the saudi government to begin with to be to stand trial and even if they could be there would be the enormous difficulty of obtaining evidence that would have been contained in inviolable.

the present the serious threat to the saudi government i think it's the way the saudi government is handling this issue. many countries are actually they have positions of brood and they're working against them and the frontal is i think in some out of like the level of political tolerance on those government side so. to himself i don't think he was even proposing himself to be in a position he said that many times on t.v. and many of his media that if you lose i'm not a position i'm trying to advise and actually we have the reports that he was trying to promote some sort of democratic reform you know for that they had regions not even as not only for saudi arabia so that's the with the saudi leadership is managing this position a broad issue is the front valuable that we have in. that is leading us to this to this crisis which is of course is causing as he discusses with their key ally the number one ally is the united states because this is this issue is going to complicate. matters for the imaging the alliances between saudi arabia and the united states without its of the god bei

the saudi consulate. was attacked by several people inside the building of identified the exact place where the attackers struck sources say the forensics expert who was part of the alleged hit squad began dismembering body immediately after he was killed. turkish media are reporting investigators are questioning saudi consulate staff. told not to come to work the day. earlier the u.s. president publicly acknowledged for the first time that is likely to be dead donald trump says there will be severe consequences for saudi arabia if it's found to be responsible. leaders from europe and asia are talking trade in brussels but the disappearance is expected to loom large over the meeting. the european leaders and their asian counterparts who came here to brussels on friday know that they are all under pressure to come up with a credible response to the situation of jamal khashoggi whose disappearance and his alleged murder at that consulate in istanbul the difficulty that they face is that they need to base th

breaks with the saudis? >> well, i am afraid that the president has pulled out of the iran nuclear deal, which was being verified in a way that led to the very clear conclusion that there was no additional capacity for a nuclear weapon, that iran was seeking or was able to obtain. and instead, he wants to have a cut-off of oil from iran beginning on november 5th. if that's the case, then he needs saudi arabia in order to produce the oil. so that's going to create an incredible conundrum for the united states because they've got us over a barrel of oil over a policy that trump is engaging in in breaking the iran nuclear deal. and now the saudis will give us an offer that president trump can't refuse. >> so you are worried? >> i am very concerned. i'm also very concerned that the saudi arabians want us to sell them nuclear power plants that could be used for a nuclear weapons program. that negotiation is ongoing as well. whether it be oil or nuclear weapons, unless the president takes a very strong stand again

an opcode organization so if turkey was disappointed in its relations with saudi arabia and saudi arabia in turkey as well and this is a similar question she's disappearance happened maybe probably a mood there is on the table a chill turkish public also put a lot of pressure on turkish officials to shed a light on this case because it's a now known. turkish soil even though it's a saudi territory inside the consulate if foreigners disappears and no one can do anything and also the turkey it turkey's n.g.o.s that officials have reacted harsh against this turkey tried to create an international conscience which actually had a good response for instance european countries criticize saudi arabia stance also united states threatened saudi arabia for sanctions and the u.s. senators have been have been saying that they are not going to leave it without a response so down by turkey's reaction there is an international pressure and saudi arabia and probably king solomon also noticed that mohamed bin sound salmond's reckless stance. towards its dissidents or opponents is not tolerable around the

comes from one of saudi arabia's wealthiest families he's well connected with the saudi royal family whom he's often provoked with editorials an article is critical of the government. during the nine hundred ninety she had contact with osama bin ladin he interviewed him before and even after bin ladin became head of al qaida like bin ladin came from one of saudi arabia's most influential families as a student because she sympathized with the muslim brotherhood which was suppressed by the saudi royal house but he never saw himself in opposition to the monarchy even supported its efforts of reform. could his knowledge about corruption or old connections with extremists have made him a target for a hit squad. from the washington post what made the shock she so dangerous she was a very prominent saudi journalist but he also after his self-imposed exile he continued writing for the washington post and the washington post has published in the capital of the probably most important ally the saudis have when it comes to military support its economy and so on so he was embarrassing the saudi

was killed inside the saudi consulate the saudis are to consider issuing a statement that she was killed during an interrogation gone wrong that's according to u.s. media. coming up a commercial lifeline for syria's government two border crossings opened and a third with iraq has to be approved. and the microsoft co-founder. welcome to the program a source from the turkish attorney general's office told our jazeera that they found evidence the missing saudi journalist jamal khashoggi was murdered inside the saudi consulate in istanbul where turkish investigators finally got to spend hours in the building thirteen days after her disappearance well earlier a saudi team entered the compound in what's being billed as a joint investigation al-jazeera has learned that the results of the investigation will be announced in two to three days time u.s. media reports say saudi arabia is weighing up whether to release a statement that he was killed as a result of an interrogation that went wrong the saudis reportedly planned to say the operation was carried out without official clearance sounded me

he turned against the saudi government was critical of the saudi government was critical of the saudi government was critical of the saudi government and that was he had to position himself inside the united states. the saudis are focused on their relationship with the united states, it is the most important that they have. we are not allies but we are strong security parties and the saudis care about what the us thinks. and the washington post is even more influential now than it was in the past and the saudis bristle at criticism. it is the hallmark of mohammad bin salman, the crown prince. the outrageous house arrest of the prime minister of lebanon by the saudi crown prince. the outrageous claim arrest of saudi princes. the criticism of the canadian government, the jailing of female at the best. he has shown clearly that he does not look any criticism inside, or in this case outside, saudi arabia. outsiders this determination of the saudi government to suppress dissent go? i am thinking of particular cases, one of the leading saudi women's rights activists, who was picked up on th

i'm paraphrasing it, but essentially that is the saudi position, that is the position of saudi arabia's allies. and it comes i think at a very difficult time regionally when in any case saudi arabia and the uae and other of their allies are in a faceoff with turkey and qatar over the future sort of political dynamic in the whole of the middle east and indeed saudi arabia is leading a blockade of qatar and all of this it should be seen in that sense as a suggestion really that this malicious propaganda as the saudis would say is part of that setting and in no way relates to saudi attempts on one of their citizen's lives. >> all right. i'll get back to that statement because i want to bring it up in full. but jomana, we have what feels like the sort of competing narrative from turkey run by president erdogan, a strum in the leadership here, and that of saudi arabia run on a day it day basis these days run by the crown prince. just talk to us and explain where that relationship lies at present. it has been fractious to say the least. >> reporter: absolutely. and from the beginning, it was

saudi relations have a listen. mr president i know one thing has you concerned jamal consoled a saudi working for the washington post has disappeared in the turkish embassy they have video going in and not going out and there's rumors that he's dead i heard the washington post reporting that you're extremely frustrated with the lack of answers we know they cherry cushier your son in law is very tight with the crown prince and the crown prince calls the shots in saudi arabia you're tight with them to what's it going to take to get some answers we're looking at it very very seriously i don't like it at all now you know you don't have american citizens but that in this case doesn't matter i don't like it i don't like it with respect to reporters it's a terrible terrible precedent and we can't let it happen and we're being very tough and we have investigators over there and we're working with turkey and frankly we're working with saudi arabia we want to find out what happened he went in and it doesn't look like he came

that saudi arabia. has possibly kill jamal because show is not something in the shocking to those who follow the wholesale slaughter what mohamed bin salman or m.b.a.'s for short people refer to him may have been startled by is the reaction of certain members of the united states congress. the twenty two senators are on alert or. calling for the global mcness the act to be implemented because of this disappearance saudi arabia has killed lots of people over the years there are many bodies that the hassle so far is directly responsible for their own missing princes that the house of saud is directly responsible for so anyone who studies saudi arabian followers what they do over the years is not shocked by the flag. marcus garvey was probably dismembered and brought back to saudi arabia so that's not sucking what is shocking is instead their reaction the u.s. conference. ok well and also joe if i can go back to you i mean donald trump is really trying to play both sides here i mean he's a he sent pompei o

sources say he was murdered there by a saudi hit squad the saudis deny that as well as a washington post report which says the saudi crown prince ordered an operation to law the critic back home we'll get to all guests very soon but first particle hand reports from washington. well you know i know nothing right and i know what everybody else knows nothing in just twenty four hours u.s. president donald trump went from no one knows what happened to jamal khashoggi to we need to find out we demanding everything we want to see what's going on here that's a bad situation it's a very serious situation for us for this way we do see. what is going on now will be the subject of an official investigation after twenty two senators sent this letter to the white house invoking the magnitsky act it gives the administration four months to determine if the show g.'s human rights were violated and if so by law they will have to place sanctions potentially on people high up in the saudi government the outcry is bipartisan and growing and that this man was murdered in saudi consulate in istanbul that

turkey has links saudis crown prince to the med. and they say men from his security detail are part of the fifteen member hit squad and reports from istanbul. saudi crown prince mohammed bin sound man offering condolences to the son salah who is believed to be under a travel ban and may not be acting on his own free will the facial expressions are telling the younger she reached out his hand to a man many believe was behind the murder of his father king some man who has been somewhat out of the public eye for a while is now trying to contain an international crisis that could have repercussions on the kingdom and the royal family he chaired a cabinet meeting and reiterated that those responsible for the death of the saudi journalist will be held to account ho the meeting was held just hours after president reza kind of a decline of turkey appealed to the king to act and to do what is correct. we will follow this incident until the end whatever is required by our laws and by international laws we will carry it out in fact i'd like to

in saudi arabia the. disappearance deepens the main stock market index fell by seven percent on sunday wiping billions of dollars off the market value of leading saudi companies mike hanna has more from washington d.c. . the saudi stock market suffered its biggest fall in years following president trump's warning it recovered slightly during the day but it was the purse tangible sign of the impact of this crisis on the saudi economy. and impact too on the once cozy relationship between the trumpet ministration and saudi leaders a statement released by the saudi news agency threatening global retaliation against any sanction came just hours after president trump spoke of severe punishment that saudi arabia proved complicit in jamal khashoggi his disappearance . no dodge among members of congress that this should involve economic sanction despite president trump stated reluctance for such measures so i will just say this to you or for confidence if this is proven to be true there is going to be a response f

saudi group saying they booked into hotels near the saudi consulate but they left turkey less than twenty four hours after they had arrived the sources they include an air force lieutenant and a saudi forensic chief and autopsy expert several special forces officers are among the group it also points to at least one of them working closely allegedly with the crown prince mohammed bin. in a moment we'll go live to alan fischer in washington d.c. with more on the u.s. investigation and we'll begin though with jamal el sheil our correspondent outside the saudi consulate in istanbul now jamal just in the past fifteen minutes or so we're getting this information coming to us from the turkish foreign minister unpack that for us how significant is it. well peter there are two headlines that came from a briefing or quick statements he made whilst on a trip in iraq and the first is that the the night that there was any involvement from u.s. intelligence operatives in the investigation in the killing gulf. is second more significant one was a direct call once again for cooperation from saudi arabia

now, women can drive in saudi arabia. saudi arabia has a long way to go. again, the like imprisonment of -- or the other women activists. or you know, i think there are so many ways where they can reform culturally. as a yemeni citizen, you know, where i find that i have different values, then the ones that saudi arabia has, because be grew up in yemen leaving in a pluralistic system. one of the things we realize, i realize is that yemen could not have survived without economic support. of saudi arabia. throughout the years. inyou mentioned, the war 1962, when the revolutionaries the him onerthrew that system society, it is kind of funny because the saudi's have supported the monarchs back then. the, youd the time, know, the saudi's, after eight years of a bloody conflict, the saudi's withdrew. over.volutionaries took despite the fact that they were not fighting each other for eight years, two years later, the yemeni government asked for an economic package. they realized they could not survive without it. things that are important. it cannot happen withou

stick to what he wishes not in saudi arabia and the saudis stress that always publicly so even if not in break implicated he has to suffer like anybody else don't care for him what indications have bush as you not do something that shows what a lot of questions have we heard from inside saudi arabia that they're actually going to act on this that they will move against the crown prince. until now it seems to me the king is not moving at all that he's trying to appeal to do and he's appealing to the king as the head of state and we know that he'll head of state there you know acting man seen through hammers and mud because this committee appointed for an investigation or dissent biggest in group is headed by him the criminal is aiding the investigation against himself is impossible and this is a mockery most likely the decrees have been written by him and his father is not able really to resist the siding so the situation is becoming extremely explosive and dangerous and this is what the what hospitals try to do in turkey to see how to fix the situation and also the intelligence of sel

and let me just say you made a great point we've been aware of what saudi arabia is and what saudi arabia has done forever we were aware of it during the campaign when it was brought up by some people that allegedly hillary clinton or the clinton foundation took money from saudi arabia which you know being gay or homosexual in saudi arabia is against the law you could be stoned to death in certain instances rape victims are often put on trial just as much as their perpetrator the person who allegedly raped them i mean there's all kinds of crazy things that go on horrific things that go on in saudi arabia and have for a long long time i think this is a story because it involves a journalist and because the media is looking to bury donald trump with his reaction whether it's good enough not good enough harsh enough not harsh enough so i think that's why they're concentrating on it but you know they have been to published reports in recent days one from a right leaning german newspaper that says that. you know he was a journalist kind yeah but for years and years and years he's been a high l

from saudi arabia he became known as a vocal critic of the saudi royal family and the saudi government the reason why you had to go to that consulate this fanboy is he wanted to get a license to get married in turkey and the last time he was seen alive was on october second that was his second visit to the consulate. but perhaps the journalist realized that he could have been in trouble and that's why his wife accompanying to him to the neighborhood where the saudi consulate and his possible future wife his fiance sorry she accompanied him to the neighborhood where the consulate was jamal left his cell phone with her and gave her instructions on what to do if he doesn't come out soon and as far as we understand several hours later it was about four or five hours she called turkish police because the man was nowhere to be seen the whole and not something that aired one commented on that as well saying that she was waiting outside and then later that evening contacted the elephant about all these things and he was also talking about how he saw this not as an accident as the saudis have c

the saudis are known now when i say the saudis i mean the same man and his team they are not on now to be the culprits they are responsible for this crime and they wanted in liars in with trump on peel to create a story which absorbs mohammad mr nunn now he wanted to release that two days ago when he planned to admit responsibility in order to up a call themselves and put it in somebody else now the problem is information kept coming from the turks and nowhere which would falsify his report so he was stuck in needed he needs now to wait for the turks to finish the northern for his falsified for his created reports to fit with the turks information about his bad luck. the information coming from the turks are encircling his neck and are approving more and more is a possibility and he is not going to do it without by waiting or by releasing a report now so that is why he is his is getting time and losing the report but the same time he is getting in trouble because he's dealing the report. robbie personified as you've been hearing all of this it's pretty clear as well that we haven't hea