joyce? >> is that for me first? >> yes. >> so this is an extraordinary moment to have the chief justice who has shown impeccable restraint in the face of criticism of the judiciary, who has refused to enter the fray. who finally feels the need to make sure that the american people understand what all of us as lawyers know, which is that the judiciary is independent. it's strong. federal judges don't think of themselves in terms of the president who appointed them. but they buildielieve they ther to uphold the rule layoff and leave their politics at the door when they enter the courthouse every morning. it just so happens that i know the judge who issued this ruling, judge tiger, in san francisco. he is an obama appointee to the federal judge. before that a trial judge in california. he's an extraordinarily thought of judge. clerked in the 11th circuit for my father-in-law but he's straight up the middle on this. i'm glad to see the chief justice go to bat to show that we can rely on our judges to be a check and bala

york he's a legal analyst and a news decoder at lionel media dot com and chattanooga we cross to brian joyce he's the host of the brian joyce show and in los angeles we have ron clark on he is a comedian a frequent guest on the jimmy door show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on with wrong all right let's start in the me start with you mark here i guess the first thing that comes to my my. it is that there was no blue way. jake tapper at the c.n.n. evidently for the first time maybe in history agrees with you and that was the words out of his bath early this morning late in the evening when this was announced yeah so the results of gone down pretty much as expected and the republicans retain control of the senate the democrats have recovered the house and the governors' races are perhaps a little more split than they were expected to be. so what we saw was pretty much a standard made term election. where we see you know the

attorney joyce vance. pete, let me start with you. what does the outgoing chairman of the judiciary committee want to see happen on the 3rd and 4th of december? he has talked about this for some time. i can count probably how many days are left for him. >> that's the issue here. there's basically only 20 hearing days until christmas for the house republicans and then of course in the new year, the democrats take over the house. they're really trying to race the clock here. the republicans on the house judiciary committee especially have been strongly trying to pursue an investigation of what went on during the clinton e-mail investigation because they believe that there was an effort within the fbi to try to undercut the trump campaign, and they are still concerned that the fbi didn't do the right thing in declining to recommend a prosecution for hillary clinton. >> joyce vance, peter king, the congressman from long island was on msnbc last hour. he sits on the intelligence committee. he sits on the homeland security committee as well

jill wine-banks, joyce vance, thanks for starting us out tonight. when we come back, the trump administration is now trying to avoid revealing what the cia knows about the killing of washington post journalist jamal khashoggi. >>> and steve kornacki is going to join us with the latest developments on that mississippi special election race. breathe freely fast, with vicks sinex. my congestion's gone. i can breathe again! ahhhh! i can breathe again! ughh! vicks sinex. breathe on. >>> the full senate is scheduled to receive a full briefing from saudi arabia and defense secretary james mattis. they will not hear from gina haspel or any other intelligence officials about the murder of washington post journalist jamal khashoggi. according to the guardian, officials said the decision for haspel not to appear came from the white house. one senate staffer told the guardian the decision to not have a single infell jensen official at the briefing is, quote, totally unprecedented and should be interpreted as nothing less than the trump administration trying to

i would agree with joyce. not only was he not going to be a witness, he probably wouldn't have been the marquee in the indictment, either, but he has been providing information. he has spent hours and hours. so my guess would be that mueller did get some good information from him that he can build on, even though he can't use him as a witness and is essentially closing down his cooperation completely. >> and cynthia, there is also this way of looking at it. mueller knows more than enough about the case. one would presume that he knew manafort was lying about the case, correct? >> exactly. the one thing we know about mueller is he follows the general rule for prosecutors, and we like to ask questions that we know the answers to. he's obviously been doing that with manafort and he's caught manafort in a lie. at the same time, the same thing happened with corsi, which is another sort of dual track part of the investigation. he asked corsi questions that he knows the answers to, and corsi lied to him and he confro

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we'll see what happens. >> so, joyce, amazing, breaking news. donald trump contradicts himself and has been caught in yet another lie. it does seem relevant to me to ask the question, is the fact that trump is back pedaling and distancing himself in this way, which we've seen him do on countless occasions in the past, does it suggest to you that he is attuned, perhaps, to this maybe not unanimous, but this bipartisan sense of concern at a minimum in some cases outrage over the fact this guy who does not really seem qualified for the job has been put in this important a job. >> i'm not sure that he's concerned. i think he just wants to get away with it. he's been very facile on a number of occasions with people being close to him suddenly becoming people that he's never known before. he's gotten away with it. so maybe he thinks he can get away with it again here. but what's very clear is that whether it was an explicit agreement or whether whitaker was just sort of winking at trump in these television appearances and trump plucked him out of the

joyce in florida, a democrat, hi, joyce. are you?i, how greta: fine, joyce. you are on the air. how did you vote yesterday? caller: democrat, straight down the line democrat. greta: and why? i am alwaysuse democrat since i registered democrat. i have two comments. whether republican or democrat i say let them run and whoever side wins, we should always remember that we are americans, whether democrat or republican. we are all american. one, going to go vote, you cannot get the party to go win. we have 10 nationalized democrats,10 born they are whining about the void, yet they become naturalized in the country of america, yet they cannot get to the poll and vote. all right, let's go to peter in wesley chapel, florida, a republican. hi, peter. caller: i want to make a couple of comments. first of all, i appreciate c-span. as a retiree, i spent too much time watching it. greta: [laughs] sawer: number two, i just chuck schumer, and he said he was happy to have more pickups in the house, and that he was going to work -- i do not know if he used the word "work," attorney used -- he is

we're grateful. >>> joyce vance, can you jump in. obviously, the topic is not surprising but the president's response is equally unprizing. i don't think anyone thought he'd say, oh, yeah, i was in new york the day the trump tower meeting but on my way through i swung back and said hey to the russians promising dirt on hillary clinton. >> rudy giuliani said all along the president's responses to the written questions would be consistent with his public statements. and, of course, he has always denied collusion and knowledge. leave aside whether or not he's just thrown his first under the bus by saying only his fir first born was aware of the meeting. what trump has done is locked himself in after a fashion. sure, there's a qualifier on these questions, to the best of my recollection, which as we all know, leaves a little bit of room to hedge. if mueller has phone records showing there were communications between trump junior and then candidate trump, as they were arranging the meetings with russians or if there's other sorts of docum

also joining us is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama and also an msnbc legal contributor. dahlia, as i say the whole stolen e-mail question is something the media has never figured out, but these seem like they were just handed to the "the new york times" to get roger stone in more trouble. >> i think so. and also stone today he tried to scoop "the times" by putting them out minutes before himself. >> that was the donald trump, jr. strategy when his e-mails were under suspicion. >> but i think you're quite right, we haven't figured out what we mean when we talk about stolen e-mails in the media. >> at a min fm calling them stolen is big improvement over hacked when they're actually stolen. joyce vance, what are you reading in these e-mails? what do you think the special prosecutor is reading in these e-mails? >> they're awfully interesting. they certainly do damage stone as you point out. but they also make bannon coming out looking a bit better than he might have looked based on the rumors.

and joyce vance, to you first. we have been talking about the indictment that this is a indictment that they didn't nee need, but it is the first one that they have with the guilty plea setting out a connection to trump tower moscow, and during the campaign and mentioning specifically the president as individual number one and his family according to this criminal information. >> i think that is right. it is very significant for exactly that reason, andrea. some of the language that jumps out at me is michael cohen, and this is the government alleging the conduct that cohen lied about the matters to krcreate distance between moscow project and person number one who we now know is the president. what that means is that if michael cohen lied, then the president lied. i have listened to chuck rosenberg who is always the yoda in these matters and it is important to bring him in and get him locked down. so cohen has now raised the hand and said it is so under oath, and he has talked about the president's family here. we

joining us joyce vance. they're both msnbc legal contributors. jonathan alter, a columnist for the daily beast and an msnbc political analyst. thanks to all of you for being here. jonathan, let me just start with you. it's a big deal that john roberts said this considering that john roberts doesn't say a lot of things quite often particularly when it comes to being critical of the president. the idea john roberts criticized the president or suggested that the president's criticism of judges is misguided, seems important to me. >> extraordinarily important for one branch to stand up against another branch, this is what the founders envisioned. for the branches to check each other. and roberts was doing that standing up for the rule of law, standing up for an independent judiciary. the big question is whether there will be more of this to come and whether in some of his decisions, whether he will side with the moderates on the court instead of just going right down the line with conservatives on say questions of whether a president can be subpoenae

and then to have joyce beatty speaking her own right, but to quote president obama, it was very moving. the emotions demonstrated by my colleague adam schiff when he talked about leadership and the challenges facing our nation, was a joy to behold. and the new members, to have the new members speak out with us now is congresswoman veronica escobar, one of the new members, who spoke in placing my name in nomination about our shared values. we are also joined by a member who is very special to me because she is a new member -- she is a member of this class, but she is also a returning member. ann kirkpatrick of arizona. a woman of great courage who voted for the affordable care act. didn't come back. said it was worth it. and is here again. thank you, ann, for joining us. and of course, nobody could ever like --on her quite

joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and john heilemann, co-host and executive producer of showtime's "the circus." he's here. all of them msnbc analysts and contributors. phil rucker, let me start with you. that appearance before the press pool today was stunning. and for everyone who thinks that donald trump shows his hand every single time, he certainly did so once again today. >> yeah, that's right, nicolle. first of all, he said he's not agitated but he wrote in all caps on twitter yesterday about the russia probe. and in sort of an outburst on twitter. so that's clearly a sign of agitation. we know from reporting that he has been spending all week with his lawyers preparing those answers. i thought it was interesting at the press conference or the press availability earlier today, he said three separate times, i wrote my own answers, my lawyers did not write them. i don't need lawyers to write my answers. but we know that's just not true. the lawyers have been helping him draft those answers. they're being

joyce, correct me if i'm wrong. while it's not uncommon for a cooperating witness to necessarily withhold some details, this filing by the special counsel's office where they basically say he lied and the plea deal is done is rare. i wonder what you think, what would possess paul manafort to risk spending potentially the rest of his life in prison? >> the deal that prosecutors offer to cooperating witnesses is they'll get some sentencing relief, but it's contingent upon full and truthful cooperation. that means that the witness doesn't get to hold anything back. they have to ask all of prosecutors' questions. they can't withhold information. it's a pretty onerous burden. in manafort's situation, it's almost impossible to figure out what was going through his head. he almost looks like someone who's just congenitally incapable of telling the truth. he has to have known from prior experience with other defendants that mueller catches people who lie to him. so whatever the -- >> yeah, can we talk about michael flynn t

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attorney, joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. and the aforementioned robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post" and moderator of washington week on pbs and what a week it's been already. robert, i would like to begin with you. what is the book on whitaker? what's the book on how the president sees him? and i know you talked to rudy in the last 24 hours. what did you learn? >> brian, i've known mr. whitaker for about a decade, going back to his time in iowa politics. moderated his first debate when he ran for u.s. senate. lost the republican primary then in 2014 to now senator joni ernst. he's a conservative, he's an ideologue, he's someone who's migrated towards the trump wing of the republican party. he's close friends with sam clovis, someone we know because he's been interviewed by robert mueller's grand jury. he's migrated to trump's wing of the party and is known for taking a tough line on the mueller probe and now he's running the department of justice. >> joyce, i have so many questions for you. as

joyce, i'd like to begin with you. do you take the president at scout's honor that this is all his work, that he just hasn't handed it in yet? >> i think it's unlikely that the president answered the questions. i suspect that particularly coming off the sugar high that he had from the prehid term election campaign rallies that he was doing, sitting down to seriouslydo thoughtfully and methodically answer these questions was something that he didn't want to do. he might have drafted answers, but the important thing, brian, is he has adopted these answers as his own. he is on the record saying these are his words and his thoughts and he didn't need any help. and if there's anything in those answers that mueller thinks has evidentiary value or is useful to him, they now belong to the president who is formally adopting them. >> excellent point. so danielle, if you're representing donald trump and you hear those words, he spoke today at the white house about this being his work product just hasn't been submitted, what goes

how did you get ready emotionally and physically to play joyce? >> well, i had to gain weight. >> reporter: patricia arquette transforms into joyce mitchell. >> she doesn't feel alive. she doesn't feel desirable. >> she was thinking she was manipulating for people for what she wanted, but she was getting manipulated. >> reporter: which led to an escape, manhunt and capture. a real life story more fascinating than fiction. st >> that manhunt we covered every night lasted for three weeks. that is "nightly news" for this friday. i'm lester holt. for all of us at nbc news, thank you for thanks for friday evening. im jessica aguirre along with chief meteorologist jeff ranieri, >>> good evening and thanks for joining us on this friday evening. we begin with our health hadsard in the bay area. nothing compares to the tragedy if butte county. this smoke is causing serious problems for us. it's not going to get much better this weekend. the unhealthy air is putting a bay area tradition on hold. tomorrow the big game between stanford and cal has been postpo

chattanooga tennessee brian joyce host of the brian joyce show on talk radio w g o w s have joel what do you make of the threat to shut down the government do if the president does get his wall. i say go for it i think it's something he should have done a long time ago now the political consequences are much lower there's no midterm election looming it's not going to cost the republicans seats and he's got to deliver on a campaign promise that he made to his core supporters so i say go for it brian border security a wall along the border these are not bad ideas but i'll tell you what larry if we have to shut down the government to make this happen i don't want to hear anybody blaming democrats for this ok because donald trump his party has controlled all three branches of government for two years now he's had the house he's had the senate if he wanted to get more border security he could get more border security if he wanted to get a wall if that's something that was actually going to happen he could have made that happen his party could have gotten that done you know the thing i'm su

can you hear me, professor joyce ? failed? can you hear me, professor joyce? i can now. you have been involved in the panorama programme because your experience is that you are now looking at implants at times which have failed and have let people down and that is a cause of concern for you and your colleagues? it is indeed and then we begin to ask questions, how do they come to market, how where they tested, and then how are they followed up. our concerns are that as many others have said they tend to be a lack of transparency about the process. and we would rather know more about how these things were tested and how they came to market. then we would like to see all implants registered so we can see like to see all implants registered so we can see which are the best and patients can learn from that. that point about you not having access to information about these devices would surprise people. you are a medical professional but you say there is no transparency in the system for you to look at results perhaps of how they were tested in the first place. that is right,

>> joyce, one more quick one. what's the chance that what we're watching is a president who just came out of these sessions with his lawyers who told him how bad it is and his new guy is over at justice who i presume has checked in with the mueller investigation and may have told the boss how bad it is? >> it's always been a mess. it's been clear from the point in time where trump fired then fbi director james comey that all was not going to go well with this white house so leaving aside for a moment any of this pre-election collusion which moorl seems to be in the process of gathering some evidence about whether it reaches the president or not, the president has in realtime in front of the american public engaged in collusion. it's very hard to see how he doesn't understand that the only protection he has is to the extent that doj policy keeps mueller from indicting a sitting president. he may avoid formal indictment but mueller can tell the story of trump's conduct through his indictments. he's issued these deta

attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. welcome back to the broadcast to all our veteran guests. mike, i'll begin with you. it is notable that the timeline on your story, the spring suggestion by the president, puts us so deep into the trump administration. another way of saying so deep into the russia investigation. >> or so deep into the obstruction of justice investigation. the president, despite the fact that they were looking at his interactions with the justice department, with the fbi, how he may have tried to impede the russia investigation, was undeterred and wanted to talk to mcgahn about this and wanted to figure out how he could put pressure on hillary and comey and use the justice department to do that. it's a remarkable thing for any president to do, but especially one who is being looked at for obstruction of justice. especially one where all of his aides are going in to meet with bob mueller about why the president did what he did in 2017, why he tried to fire the attorney general in 2017, why he was trying

let's bring in joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney, barbara mcquaid and matt miller, a former chief spokesman at the justice department and an msnbc justice and security analyst. let me play for you all what trump said yesterday. >> i haven't submitted them yet. i just finished them. as you know, i've been a little bit busy, but it didn't take very long to do them. they were my answers. i don't need lawyers to do that. >> you know the law and you know about lawyering. on a sliding scale from likely laughable to very likely, how likely is it that trump would be writing his own answers? joyce, i'll let you take that easy one. >> well, i think we should take him at face value and assume he took a first stab at them, but i'd feel equally certain his lawyers will exhaustively work them over inserting qualifiers and making sure what they send to mueller is a very bland, vanilla product that can't get the president in any kind of trouble. >> barbara, let's look at what bob woodward describes in his book "fear." this is an encounter

joyce would know better than i do. there's a big debate as to what constitutes conspiracy, that's the legal term, not collusion but we're seeing dots being linked together and we'll see when these indictments come out to see how far they go. >> the narrative that i think would work with republicans who are continuing to face voters, i don't mean ryan costello or charlie dent or flake because they don't count as republicans as far as i say because they don't face republican voters but what seems to work perhaps if we lived in the age of watergate where there good republicans who faced reality, faced evidence, you can show that trump has been in bed with the russians in terms of financial support for years in his business, if you can show that he had a happy idea about getting help from them in the campaign, that he had interlocutories like roger stone and getting that information to him and encouraging its use by wikileaks to destroy hillary clinton, it seems to me you have a narrative there of collusion. right there. a

joyce advance, good to have you all here. michael, thank you both. >>> still ahead, what nancy pelosi is saying about her bid to get back the gavel as democrats begin to decide who will lead their party for the next term. >>> plus, steve ratner fact checks the president who is waging a battle against gm. >>> a big storm for california in some cases it's the biggest storm they've seen in about eight months. heavy rain in the mountainous area, snow breaking out in the higher elevations. we're waiting to see how much rain gets into los angeles for that morning commute. right now, light, spotty rain. it will increase. we've had the fire and so now we have 4 million people under flash flood risks including where the camp fire was and the woolsy fire south. as we go throughout the afternoon, the heavy rain will the in the mountainous areas. how about the snow from this storm? here is the snowfall will pick up significant snow. on saturday, once again into the plains, we see another snow event here with heavier snows in a few spots.

and just in case you didn't remember, i am congresswoman joyce beatty. and i approve this message. god bless you. [applause] reverend sharpton: earlier this year, our washington bureau honored this next congresswoman. i told them how everywhere i went in the virgin islands, they talk about her, stacy laskett. and she said, probably because hey're my relatives. but she has distinguished erself as one that has stood and represented and has been unafraid and unequivocal and honored that she will address us at this time. the congresswoman from the u.s. virgin islands, stacy plaskett. [applause] ms. plaskett: good afternoon, everyone. i want to thank the national action network members, the chapter leaders, the reverend al sharpton, founder and president, the washington bureau chief and policy advisers and all of the coordinateors and all of you for being here this afternoon. reverend sharpton going down to the virgin islands and hearing my name being called. it's true, i'm probably related to moist of the islands. but they sent me here to washington to be their voice. and i understand

but first, joyce, the reason that it's so relevant right now is, we're in this weird situation right now where the mueller probe is going on in the background and sort of stopped any public activity in this window up to the campaign. it's easy to be caught in this, but as soon as the lek00 is over, it's likely things are going to happen, and that team will face a set of choices how to proceed, and this document is very relevant to that. >> it's sort of an end of the game document. this is when a grand jury finishes its work, and in this unique situation, sees that there's work still to be done up on capitol hill, and sends the evidence it's acquired on to capitol hill for the representatives to use in their deliberations. this is such an important part bringing closure to the american people. sunshine is the best disinfectant. we need to expose this information not just on capitol hill but to average american citizens, perhaps in a classified format, the work that ben and folks that protect democracy have done is great. >> ben, it's striking here that the road map is not written in t

you just heard the optimistic view from joyce. i hope that's right. let me give you the view, more on the side i land on. whitaker is in this job for one reason. to prevent this investigation from getting too close to donald trump. i don't think that means he's going to reach in and fire bob mueller an dismiss indictments, but u on the close calls and subpoenaing the president can be a close call, he's going to side the president. maybe we'll get lucky and he'll do right thing, but i don't have any confidence in that. i don't think it's a koicoincide that the president stalled on answering these questions for 11 months. he dragged the process out and now finally, the week after he put someone in place who's only real known qualification for the job is a publicly stated hostility to the investigation, who it's been reported is skeptical of a subpoena is that now is when the president has decided to answer these questions. you'll see the questions on the ones where he has the most legal jeopardy. where he can't answer the question without incriminating

joyce, tom, thank you so much. we're lucky to have you both here to help us understand it. >>> now an update on the breaking news story we have been covering throughout the hour. the magnitude 7.0 earthquake that struck alaska. a tsunami warning for parts of the alaskan coast is issued. it is telling people to move themselves to higher ground. power is out in the city and there are reports of damage to highways and roads. we're going to give you an update when we come back next. right there you are looking at an anchorage grocery store. you have seen this scene before in other earthquakes. a number of items, 7.0. tiles off the roofs of buildings. that is very big deal. we'll stay on this story when we come back. you're watching "velshi & ruhle." we saved hundreds on our car insurance when we switched to geico. this is how it made me feel. it was like that feeling when you're mowing the lawn on a sunny day... ...and without even trying, you end up with one last strip that's exactly the width of your mower. when you'

and then to have joyce beatty quoting president obama, it was very moving. the emotions demonstrated by my colleagues, adam schiff, when he talks about leadership and the challenges facing our nation was a joy to behold. d have the new members speak ut, veronica veronica escobar, one of the new embers, who spoke out. she's also a returning member. ann kirkpatrick of arizona. a woman of great courage who voted for the affordable care act. didn't come back. said it was worth it. and is here again. thank you, ann, for joining us. and there's no better honor than wrap it all ewis up. i'm very, very, so inspired by it all and so grateful to my colleagues for what they have done to place my name in nomination. in the considers of these last days and weeks, it's been my privilege to listen to new members, listen to our members who have been here a while, hear their views about how we go forward, convinced that everything we said in the campaign about a congress, a new congress, that is open and transparent, that is accountable to the people, that is unifying in how

joyce, is this enough for the special counsel? >> i think it's highly unlikely that this is enough. look, katy, prosecutors don't like this idea of getting written questions. but on the same sort of line of thinking, mueller does have this obligation to try to get any evidence that he can that's necessary for his investigation. so it's likely that he will take a look at these answers, that they will evaluate whether they're sufficient or not and whether any additional steps like a subpoena are necessary to round out the investigation. >> i will read you a statement from the counsel to the president. the president today answered written questions submitted by the special counsel's office the questions presented with issues regarding the russia-related topics of the inquiry. the president responded in writing. from counsel of the president. rudy giuliani added another statement where he said special counsel has been provided with more than 30 witnesses, 1.4 million pages of material and now the president's written response to questions, it's time to bring this inquiry to a conclusion

perhaps he's more isolated or perhaps he's more on his own. >> joyce, what happens when there isn't a mcgahn to stop this sort of thing? >> i think that's exactly the right question. it could mean if the president continues down this path that he ends mines the rule of law. the most i think really shocking phrase in mike's story is when he talks about the president saying that he wanted to order the justice department to convene this investigation. not investigation but prosecution. the president thought it was ok for him to say "i want you to lock up my political opponents and this witness against me. a president who would do that would have so little insight in it and that he would place himself in that position is appalling. an acting attorney general has said he's 3r50e7d to -- >> the mueller file having been gotten months ago and it's buried in the case file but well known in his office. if you're mueller reading about this. if you're mueller reading the new york times story, you read it as evidence of what? >> you read it potentially as evidence of obstruction. look, i assume th

joyce needed 15 rounds of radiation. >> i feel good. i really do. i keep trying to do my exercises and eat the way i'm supposed to eat. i don't dwell on it. i'm trying to keep it positive. >> this morning joyce is now 4 months cancer free. >>> how is the traffic, gianna? >> busy off the bay bridge. not affecting your drive for the to plaza. metering lights are off, and you will see the crash on westbound 80 at fremont, over to the shoulder, and a little slow, and we are getting word of a vehicle fire north 280 at king street, and it's to the shoulder. 280 extension this morning, heads up, headed into san francisco, and we will show you the map of the crash, westbound 80 at fremont, over to the shoulder, and check out the map, you can see the red and yellow, and it's 26 minutes now to travel from the mcarthur maze to the central freeway, and they say the backup is just beyond this point. give yourself a few extra minutes, and hopefully it will be cleared shortly. south 880 before 237, the right lane remains shut down as they clear the accident. the v

no better person to have than joyce vance. give us the legal ramifications of what the efforts are that are being made right now by this administration to change the way we handle asylum applications in that they would stay at someplace potentially on the mexico side as opposed to potentially being allowed into the u.s. as a decision is being made. >> so everything that's going on here is out of kilter with our understanding of how the asylum process should work. the united states has always been predicated on the belief that we should welcome people seeking refuge in this country. we obviously have reasonable restrictions on security practices in place. but what's happening now is an effort to shut down the border to make it impossible for people, at least people coming from central and latin america and mexico to come into the united states and seek asylum using lawful procedures. as you and elliott point out, there would be serious economic r repercussions. folks could be down in baja over the holiday weekend and find thems