when i was at one of the things we've noticed in speaking to you about the unification church and then and reading your book and doing more research and ever it seems that all of these religious organizations that do kind of turn into cults really use certain things as collateral it's that you don't need these things we can do that and one of those is behavior modification once you sort of financially taken away somebody like give us your money make sure whatever. controlling behavior becomes a big component one example i found very similar to yours was in the memoir of alexandra stein it was called inside out a memoir of entering and breaking out of a minneapolis political call and all kind of explain it to a little bit she was part of a marxist leninist organization called the oh that grew out of a minneapolis co-op there was literally the food co-op for us of the seven days it's a real thing but it really came out of this idea of what she witnessed was that clandestine structure charismatic leaders and all controlling environment sometimes forced marriages or pregnancies and all of