i really think people in silicon valley are excited to talk about what they're working on . and it's a pretty secretive industry. i think google,apple, facebook are a black box even. so much of the people who report on them as a dedicated beat , but i don't know, it's funny. i do feel having gone from being a tech worker to writing about the tech industry that it's sort of like the doorsof power in the city have closed on me . and i'm no longer on the inside but i'm still very much paying attention to the system and the industry. >> host: after 18 months in the tech industry, the longest in your life as you say . >> guest: maybe a little dramatic. definitely the most intense as far as my work life. >> host: do you still use all the different websites that we still know after mark use more tech, less tech ? >> guest: i'm a little bit more paranoid, specifically more paranoid about what data i'm sharing app's and websites and whogets to see that inside these companies . i think if i download a app and see that they don't have arevenue model i'm suspicious of it and i tend not

jason: and so is there hope for silicon valley at this point? one of the things pointed out an d i feel we have talked about it is this idea that so many of these companies, at least superficially or in their formation, were actually about doing good for the world. google, don't be evil. we go back to that. is there hope that maybe in the near to midterm future silicon valley finds its soul again? not to put too fine a point on it. jeff: i would not expected to happen in a matter of a couple quarters, but there is certainly a model for innovation that people are trying to reach toward through the valley and particularly google, you can see in the protests by employees, walkouts, the pressure for better labor conditions, or different company policies, particularly around drones and military contracts, there is a push for reform. jason: you think back to the 1990's and the trouble microsoft got into with the government with antitrust. fast-forward to today. the government taking a look at these companies. if there is this moment of reckoning, that

in silicon valley people are pushing software before they're finished. there entering it very quickly. very different approaches to product development. i'm horrified i just referred to making a book as product abutment but in so far as it is the values that motivate books are really different. >> is it addicting? >> technology? some i think. >> the mindset addictive? >> that's a good question. yes, i found it really intoxicating. >> that's a better word. >> it feels really good to see the products of your labor and realize quickly. you get in the feedback loop of working on something and you see it go. you can see that really quickly. within a month of having something a viable product. what about publishing and technology? is there a synergy there? >> that's a good question. a synergy in terms of how can technology provide new infrastructure for publishing? it's hard to say. i think a lot of the technologies and products available that have tried to integrate into publishing or books have really taken off Ãb have not really taken off the way they are

jason: and so is there hope for silicon valley at this point? one of the things pointed out an affiliate we have talked about it is this idea that so many of these companies, at least superficially or in their formation, wer actuallye about doing good for the world. google, don't be evil. we go back to that. hope that maybe in the near to midterm future silicon valley finds its soul again? jeff: i would not expected to happen in a matter of a couple quarters, but there is certainly a model for innovation that people are trying to reach toward through the valley and particularly google, you can see in the protests by employees, walkouts, the pressure for better labor conditions, or different company policies, particularly around drones and military contracts, there is a push for reform. jason: you think back to the 1990's and the trouble microsoft got into with the government with antitrust. fast-forward to today. the government taking a look at these companies. if there is this moment of reckoning, that maybe at least puts us closer back to the

inject competition, silicon valley practices and maybe there is a way silicon valley startups can learn from end-ups. emily: what particular things are you fed up with from silicon valley? john: i wouldn't say i was fed up. there is so much knowledge here and capability here that the rest of the world has not cut up yet because here, we speak machine. outside, people don't speak machine and have biases against it without understanding it. that imbalance is a problem. emily: you are coming out with a book called how to speak machine. what do you mean by that? john: here, everyone understands how code works. i call this like spanish 4 level competency. people usually don't speak spanish of computation. they don't code. they cannot actually speak machine. how to speak machine is like spanish 1 to understanding the cloud. emily: last time we had you want was some apple announcement. i love hearing your thoughts on apple design. i know you follow the smartphone industry. there is a lot going on now with the u.s.-china trade war, huawei versus apple. huawei is now at a disadvantage outside of

and silicon valley is right in the crosshairs. one justice department official told me these threats are, quote, "more serious and devastating than a terrorist attack against a building or an airplane because these kinds of attacks could bring down entire portions of this nation's economy." on this quiet, treelined street near downtown oakland sits this mail package store, where us counter intelligence agents say a spy ring for the people's republic of china, or the prc, used a po box inside as a front for its operations. according to court records, the lead spy, a man name walter liew, lived in this nondescript house in the hills of orinda nearby, and stashed his stolen secrets in a safety deposit box located in this bank of china branch. kevin phelan: they said to him, "here's a list of items that we need to help grow the prc to make the country stronger, and we need your help to get them." stephen: in this case, says fbi counter intelligence agent kevin phelan, the secret belonged to du pont chemical. the company spent decades

. >>> celebrating silicon's valleys best and brightest. we take it to tonight's entrepreneur of the year awards. you will hear what candidates say about silicon valley's changing landscape. >>> a giant outfielder had a record-setting night in his team debut against the diamondbacks tonight. we will have the highlights of this historic game later on. >>> a report of the silicon valley transportation authority. why is being called the most expensive and least efficient transit agency in the country. >>> i, i think i'm as ready as i can be. i'm ready. but, clearly, i'm a little nervous. there are so many expectations. like, on the sticker, "city mileage this, highway that." uh, that's a lot to live up to. but i heard no gas gets better mileage than chevron with techron. yeah, no better mileage. it's proven. so that's a confidence builder. it's proven; no gas gets better mileage than chevron with techron. care for your car. so much for my new car smell, guys. chave the fastest. internet and now the best mobile network too? yeah and get them to

the tech start thaups came out of silicon valley in the dot-com era. but also, a.l.o. made the conscious decision that we will be the main for mainstream people to get on the internet so while other companies were more interested in the hardcore techies,. a -- a.o.l. indicate torlede joe and jalen six-pack, to grandma getting on line and discovering you could email pictures of your grand kids back and forth. a.o.l. was called the training wheels to have internet but they embraced that. they taught a lot of americans what it was like to live online for the first time. to have online identities, to have a screen name. to go online and find the communities that you feel a part of, that you can fit into. someone had to be the first and. a o.l. was very smartly focused on that, of being a comfortable and not very tech-sophisticated way to get people onto the internet and to learn how to live online. host: another quote: in 1999 when larry and sergei first met, they didn't like each other much. brian: yes, that's larry paige and sergei brend, the poundsers o

was not in silicon valley, so culturally, it did not feel akin to the tech startups. aol made the decision that we will be the mainstream venue for normal people to get on the internet, and so, while other companies were more focused on the hard-core techies that flooded onto the internet, aol catered to joe and jane sixpack, catered to grandma getting online and discovering that you can in no pictures of your grandkids back and forth. aol was called the training wheels of the internet, but they embraced that. that was a necessary thing. aol taught a lot of americans what it was like to live online for the first time. to have a screen name. find theine and communities that you feel a part of, that you can fit into. someone had to be the first, and focused ony smartly being a comfortable and not very tech sophisticated way to get people onto the internet and to learn how to live online. when larry and sergey first met, they did not like each other much. >> they are larry page and surrogate rain, the founders of google. sergey brin, the founders of google. they get the

valley. his firm is one of the largest venture capital firms operating in the tech space investing in any number of companies that you would know of he is on facebook board of directors coin base, base, air b&b and investors of a lot of tech companies teeseven so what did netscape bring to what we use today? what was its contribution? . >> it was primarily the vehicle bringing americans onto the internet for the first time it was like a chicken and egg situation it was starting to take off before it release the web browser but by being so easy to use and to be available on wender on - - on windows a lot of users first experience came through netscape navigator for the first time they see that they want to create websites and with a chicken and the egg situation and allowing that to go mainstream or vice versa so i think aside from setting the template for these technology-based startups that are now seven out of the top ten they set that template but it was the vehicle for essentially getting

well 2 years after angry silicon valley locals chanted build a wall to keep homeless out the city is reportedly cracking down on a growing r.v. camp outside google's headquarters according to bloomberg 2 years ago at a city hall meeting in nearby san jose those who oppose building more affordable housing chanted build a wall and reference to keeping the homeless out of their town so these same people in silicon valley are working hard to not only de platform anybody who would say build the wall against mexicans coming in or and latin americans coming in over our border. but in their deep platforming those people they themselves are saying build a wall to keep poor people out and poor people could be mexican they could be latin american they could be the migrants coming over they could be african american they could be white american they could be all people but they're poor people and that's i think one of the biggest wars that actually has always been going on and martin luther king jr pointed that out over and over it's a class issue and this is a war against poor people oh no are

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the success of silicon valley has massively driven up housing prices in the bay area. middle income residents have been squeezed out as tech earners have snapped up real estate with new apartments in short supply. big tech names like amazon and facebook are being called out for how they report or don't report carbon emissions. they are among 700 companies targeted in a campaign backed by a large group of investors and companies like hsbc. they want greater transparency when it comes to the environmental impact of these companies. to talk about this and more when it comes to tech's carbon footprint in new york, we have , jesse mikel keenan of harvard, who is also -- who has also advised cities and states. another guest with a venture capital firm. they are focused on sustainable housing. just how big is tech's carbon footprint? you don't usually equate them with power plants or the makers of bluejeans, for example, but they do have a bigger carbon footprint in a different way? >> yes. footprint -- the footprint is from server farms. they have been sourcing some of that

emily: how did you learn about silicon valley? how did you find this place? >> i have been watching you for about five years. you are a staple here, so much so that i associate silicon valley with your image. it was a conversation -- it was more about looking up every article possible, reading blogs, reading everything, and then i created flashcards. like mark, stewart butterfield, andreessen,- mark stewart butterfield, and leavy, they are investors, but i first had them on these cards like what they mean. i was teaching myself everything i could because i wanted to be ready to go in and pitch to investors. i wanted to know what was on the other side and it was then while in that process of "i want to start my own company" that i started seeing no one is taking me seriously. and if they are not taking the seriously and i just went through all of this, i wonder how they're taking someone who may be does not put a g at the end of their words or maybe has a slight southern accent or maybe did not go to the college they went to and is not as am.ident as i these i

born and educated in singapore, based in silicon valley. he is targeting southeast asia for the company's next growth. southeast asia, a huge growth region for ourselves and the company. a very young population out here. very tech savvy. hungry, i think for huge amounts , of consumption, for entertainment. we think there's a huge opportunity for ourselves. it's really finding the right kind of product or service and cater to the population of the region. >> i would say we are 10 years behind china in terms of evolution in digital economy. but we are getting their much faster than any of our predecessors were. china or the u.s. or the european nations. coming into the digital economy. i think we are in the beginning but we are moving much faster , than we've ever seen in any other economies moved. haslinda: here's a sense of how connected southeast asia is. the philippines leads the world in time spent on social media. indonesia's number one for using and using mobile phones for e-commerce. thais lead the pack when it comes to mobile phones.

>> next week. >> how does silicon valley end. >> jimmy: who are you texting? >> amy, one of the producers of the show. >> jimmy: if she tells you, will you tell us? >> i can show it to you. >> jimmy: i would like to see it succeed. what did she say? >> she's already texting back. the dots are going. >> jimmy: she doesn't know this is a televised text. >> she really doesn't know. >> jimmy: beautiful. this is exciting. >> oh, my god. if you're big fan of the show, we'll just make small talk. oh. >> jimmy: what'd she write? >> don't read it out loud. this is how it ends. >> jimmy: oh, my, what? that's not how it ends. is that really how it ends? >> i don't know. that's what she says. >> jimmy: really? wow. we'll see. >> now two people know. >> jimmy: very interesting, okay. >> wow, good direction. >> jimmy: i don't really want to comment because i don't want to ruin it, okay, i'll try to get past that. everything else, you met everybody, by the way, i know this show is hugely popular with real tech people. the guys in silicon valley, because you guys take stories

google obviously survived and continue to thrive today aol never got much in from - - attention from silicon valley. >> it is based in virginia so culturally it didn't feel like it was a kin but aol made the decision consciously we will be the mainstream venue for normal people to get on the internet. so while others were focused on techies that were hard-core aol catered to joe and jane sixpack and grandma getting online to discover you can e-mail pictures of your

if you're working for a silicon valley company, you're probably making at least $200,000 per year. some academic institutions are getting angry that big tech keeps snapping up all of their top grads. waslked to one student who the advisee of a professor who went to narrowly. as soon as he transferred to berkeley, a second advisor quit to work for a startup. are a lot of holes in academia and a lot of students coming up the ranks to try to fill them area >> and some drama also. check out this piece in bloomberg businessweek. hear more from the editors and reporters every saturday and sunday on this week. still ahead, imagine being able to communicate without cell, wi-fi, or satellite service. we will talk to a ceo making that possible next. ♪ adobe shares are rising after the company announced better-than-expected earnings. mobile communications startup was created after hurricane sandy years ago but today they are marking a new chapter. they raised $24 million in a funding round to help connect off the grid on its mobile mesh network. it is even more impressive knowing that only

than a a silicon peak valley. taylor: it is the first day of the fomc meeting and the white house has grabbed some of the spotlight. bloomberg has learned that president trump explored the legality of demoting fed chair jay powell. this all comes amidst major fed scrutiny. bank's await the central next move. bloomberg'swelcome crossed assets reporter luke matt in fed reporter washington. calm.uity markets stayed there weren't a lot of big movements. please tell me we are taking this in stride. luke: trade headlines seem to very much move the market but this does not. i don't know whether this is seen as a much less likely thing that transpires or maybe it is just a notion that the fed is strong enough as an institution and it would not be enough to tip the balance of opinion. joe: fed decision tomorrow. what is the thing more than anything you will be looking for? dots are goinghe to be the first thing we are looking at. we get those that 2:00 p.m.. dotsuestion is, how many ing down the need for a rate cut. do we

lawmakers start a probe into the market dominance of silicon valley companies like facebook google and apple. also want to show broken promises from the world's biggest consumer goods company to pledge years ago to limit forestation through versus sourcing that's not exactly what happened. and french videogame maker ubi soft imagine a post that breaks that this filthy london and its latest offering presented out to eat free in l.a. . this is good business i'm joined in berlin welcome united states lawmakers have launched an investigation into silicon valley's biggest names today the probe by the house judiciary committee marks congress's 1st review of the tech sector which until now regulators had left relatively undisturbed lawmakers will assess whether the concentrated power of facebook apple google and amazon are harming consumers and killing competition the committee has started by examining the impact of the tech giants forms on news content the media and the spread of mis information online. the hearo joins us now from wall street good to see you always now they need to rein in b

. >> before tech, there were crops, the fight tonight to save one of the last silicon valley orchards.>>> raise your hand if you're happy about a different type of weather? yeah, 106, 107, 15 degrees cooler than yesterday, 30 degrees older than two days ago. will we keep going down or are temperatures bouncing back up? we will have the forecast next. >>> state lawmakers have agreed to a $215 billion budget. it includes big chunks of change for the governor's priorities. $2.4 billion for housing in homeless services and nearly 100 million to extend tax they are funded insurance to undocumented immigrants.>> the conference report is adopted.>> reporter: without the california state budget for 2019 to 2020 pass the assembly today. it also passed in the senate and is headed to the governor's desk. this budget includes an expansion of medi-cal to low income people who are undocumented and under 26 years old. >> there's a lot of criticism to the very small expenditure, only $74 million, in our general fund, out of the $200 billion. >> currently undocumented people under 18 and a low income

we stand silicon valley google says it wants to spend a $1000000000.00 on building affordable housing in the san francisco bay area where it is headquartered tech company has been criticized for driving up house prices with the high wages of its silicon valley employees who will boss. him now says the firm wants to be a good neighbor by supporting the construction of 15000 new homes for buyers of all incomes 3 quarters of the money will be spent converting some of google's own commercial property for residential use. it's more than 15 years since concorde left the world's skies for it since then there's been much talk about whether or not we could ever see a return to supersonic coma szell flights at the paris air show one company is showing plans to bring about justice. whom supersonic says it's close to building the world's fastest ever passenger jet the colorado company and its futuristic flyer overture are attracting attention thanks to some pretty big promises. paris to new york in 3 hours and 15 minutes instead of the 7 it takes today think san francisco to tokyo at 5 and a half

. ♪ emily: it is a firm that started shaking up silicon valley after its founding in 2009, scott kuper of andreessen horowitz joins us. it has invested in companies like lyft, airbnb, facebook live, coinbase and now kuper is out with a new book. he joined us to discuss the current vc landscape. scott: it is good in the sense that there is a tremendous amount of capital. it is easier than ever to get seed capital. at the same time, you have this funny dynamic that companies are staying private longer so you have a huge amount of seed capital, and then an enormous amount of capital going into these later rounds. last year, 70% of the funds went into rounds that were $100 million or so. so in that respect, it is healthy and a good place to be. emily: venture capital is investing in disruptors, and for a long time was never disrupted itself. now you see venture capital firms trying to reinvent themselves. how do you see the traditional model being disrupted in the future? can the way vc exists today exist in the future? scott: you are right. the big thing that happened over the last 10 yea

jason: we thought this would end when reading the up in a script of "silicon valley." you are a great chronicler of the valley, how does this fit are in? max: the whole idea of ai go has been hot for a long time. -- i would say the easier to parody pieces of this is the human brain interface, which is something science have worked on, doctors have worked on because if you were to create , a brain interface, you could help people with amputations. jason: from neuroscientists to rock 'n roll, a hard pivot but this is a first-person story. a cool element online. tell us about the tail. max: vernon silver is the foremost led zeppelin copyright artist. he wrote about a dispute over "stairway to heaven." he stumbled on a quirk of u.s. copyright law which is full of these weird quirks which is that before 1978, a piece of music to have a copyright had to have the sheet music filed with the u.s. copyright office. and if it did not, in theory, according to some legal interpretations, that would mean that a lot of guitar solos which were improvised where the record label did not

and of course this makes many people on the market suspect that the rhetoric against silicon valley will get fierce and stronger and more negative that's very difficult for investors to reckon with absolutely that creates ripples across global stock markets comment was in fact that thank you so much. well leaving the looming antitrust probe aside it's business as usual for apple apart from the fact perhaps that there were no dazzling new products to while the taking is gathered at apple's developers conference instead the tech giant announced a raft of updates to the operating systems run the i phone i pad apple watch and back. apple's a new will w w d c gathering in san jose is monitored with almost religious intensity by the developers and founds of the tech colossus. as one of the world's most valuable companies it's also keenly watched by investors who hope apple services business will boost revenues and profits a sales of its signature i phone decline. this year the focus was on media content and services rather than technology and hardware innovation. apple also bade farewell to on

known as silicon valley. apple ceo tim cook slamming big tech the fallout ahead as "power lunch" starts right now. >> and welcome to "power lunch" on this monday i'm melissa lee. wall street in a holding pattern ahead of the fed stocks carrying out modest gains. nasdaq the biggest winner at this hour. communications services specifically, the best performing sector, led by facebook, netflix. we have much more on netflix ahead. it's all about the fed this week policymakers getting ready to meet tomorrow. a decision on interest rates set for wednesday followed by chairman powell's news conference steve liesman is here with more on what investors should be bracing for. >> the period of the fed's patience could be coming to a quick close. the word first appeared in the january statement and was taken as it was on hold. now patience is not long for the fed's statement. we expect the statement to drop the word patient, which implicitly implies a hike, and albeit with noncommittal language here's are the probabiliti

valley that walk around in under shirts and they were not $2 billion they don't have nearly the genius these people have they practically admit it. they try to go out and buy the company. they were buying all of our companies, they could not do it. we have the most brilliant people we have the most brilliant huawei is very powerful and strong, don't forget zte, i did something with them where i closed them up and they paid us as a country, $1.2 billion fee we allow them to open, $1.2 billion done in one week. that was you know a good deal and you know i don't want to put their companies out of business. i want china to do well. i don't want them to do as well as us. you know when they say china, 25 years, you don't see them anymore. what they mean is that in 25 they're going to be much bigger and dominant in 25 i tell president xi, listen, that's insulting to me can't do that. they took it off because he understood exactly what we meant. we picked up $10 trillion more than that in value they lost 15 to $20 trillion in value since the day we are elected. we are doing great i hope the de

let's bring in carl guardino from the silicon valley leadership group, he represents about 400 of silicon valley's most respected employers. >> a little shy of that. good to see you, liz. liz: good to see you. what do you think, carl? will this report which some are calling facebook's federalist papers, will it silence, you know, the mob out there that says break up these companies? >> well, it really depends on if we are trying to make headlines or headways. we appreciate that elected officials running for president need to make headlines. american innovators and entrepreneurs are going to stay focused on making headway on innovation, job creation and benefiting america's economy. so three quick points on antitrust, liz. first, for decades, antitrust law in america has focused rightfully on whether it is benefiting through costs you and me as consumers, not arbitrary decisions on the side of a company. second, we both know that the economic landfill is littered with seemingly dominant companies one day who are on the trash heap of economic history the next day. liz: you could name off a

. >>> developing news with silicon valley under scrutiny, several big tech companies could be at the center of the federal investigation for antitrust and anti-competitive behavior. according to cbs news, a federal antitrust regulator is pursuing investigations into apple, google, facebook, and amazon. the house judiciary committee announced a bipartisan probe into market dominance by several tech giants. one tech expert attending the developers conference at apple says the government should keep a watchful eye for bad practices, but not necessarily break up big tech. >> we should look at times where maybe they are stifling the market and killing competition, and on the other hand, if companies are innovating and doing new things, we have to be very careful not to stifle that. >> what is the solution? >> i'm not very sure that it is easy for the government to come in and figure these things out. >> google do not have a comment. we reached out to apple and amazon and facebook and we are still waiting for a response. >>> cbs news was in the middle of an interview with tim cook as the n

valley. we learned in the past hour a person of interest has been questioned. we were first at the scene at 11:00 a.m. when this fire erupted. you can see what's left right now of this would-be condo complex simply ashes. our sky ranger was overhead el camino real in santa clara. let's begin our coverage with nbc bay area's scott budman. >> reporter: good evening, raj. people who live and work alonge project up in flames and that was building new housing. people nearby told us they knew when the flames were spreading because they could feel the heat blocks away. >> there was just huge, hot flames coming out. >> i could see flames pretty high in the sky. and the black smoke. and i had no idea it was this new apartment building. >> reporter: in fact, it was a new build under construction, 58 condos set to open next year. word spread quickly, on social media. >> i look on my phone and i see people posting this fire. so i tell my dad, let's go check it out. we come over here and it's just fire ev

he's been ratcheting up over time, which has been irritating a lot of people in silicon valley, largely because they have no, i don't know what they don't have any defense, and yet they're aggrieved that he's mentioning these things. and i'm sure they're furious today. >> this seems like a big jump for him. a couple of turns of phrase especially jumped out to me. this industry. he's not pointing to just social media. he says, this industry and then he says, every day, there's a headline >> right, right. >> these are the things that people who are accused of being anti-tech are saying and now it's tim cook saying it. >> tim cook is the most anti-tech tech executive, right? i think they're -- it's both a good thing for apple to talk about this, and at the same time i think he genuinely cares about it this is an issue -- i hate to say adults care about, but what's interesting is, you know i've been on this for a while. it's the same thing, the chaos, the amplification, the weaponization. and i think anybody who has any sense of like, there's a problem here, has to say something and i think

be different than some others in silicon valley. that's the takeaway message apple ceo tim cook leaving with stanford university graduates. it's a twist on apple's famous think different ad campaign from two decades back. cook also being a bit different than many other ceos by taking a swipe at those rival tech titans and their executives. the apple chief telling the graduates that what they build or create will define them and that too many tech firms quote, claim credit without accepting responsibility. >> it feels a bit crazy that anyone should have to say this, but if you have built a chaos factory, you can't dodge responsibility for the chaos. taking responsibility means having the courage to think things through. and there are few areas where this is more important than privacy. reporter: cook calling out data breaches, privacy violations and what he calls blind eyes turned towards hate speech and fake news. the apple ceo has been vocal in his criticisms, of course, of firms that collect and sell user data. of course, this wou

known as silicon valley. apple ceo tim cook slamming big tech the fallout ahead as "power lunch" starts right now.

how is that going over in silicon valley? joining us now, christy setzer, new heights communications president, democratic strategist and ford o'connell civic forum pac chairman. he is also a republican strategist. christie, does this undermined do you think democrats credibility as they say we'll crack down on big tech, make sure everything is done about it book when they're not and take away privacy and take money from them what do you think? >> i think it has potential to because people have complicated relationship with big tech. for example, i think that it is pretty rep represencable that facebook did not take down video of nancy pelosi making it seem like she was drunk. i think it is disgusting twitter won't punish white supremacists accounts, yet i'm still on facebook and twitter. most people are too. unless you see this big outcry from regular voters on this i just don't think it is too much of an issue. melissa: ford, when you take money from somebody that you are supposed to be regulating that just instantly create