i'm really getting tired on elizabeth warren. she's got a plan, listen, laura, the dude who invented new coke, had a plan but the plant could suck really bad. and elizabeth warren's plans are absolutely awful. i will take the trump plan 3% gdp growth, tax cuts, regulatory reform. >> we don't have 3% gdp growth. >> i don't need elizabeth warren's awful plan. i'm sorry. she is a terrible candidate. i don't think she will make it. >> laura: i think she has populist appeal, i really think she does. i'm not throwing her to the side ends i don't think that she could not be the nominee. chris, in the situation where you have media glowing profiles in the media. you have beto late spring of mayor pete. and that kind of didn't go anywhere. and now it is the fall of elizabeth. oh, i don't mean it like that but the automotive with elizabeth. and they go through cycles, do they not, and a series of glowing profiles. >> i don't know "the new york times" just did a huge article about her electability problem and that was just two days ago. so

how about two elizabeth warrens. this is stephanie, a warren look alike who met her at a rally in minnesota monday night. that might keep joe up all night. i think that is 2/1000's. this may keep us up at night, the warren boogie.♪ respect >> oh my word. >> laura: that is like elaine's dancearound seinfeld. politicians shouldn't dance. obama had a good voice. >> none of them can dance. >> laura: don't we have ricky martin on inauguration? that was another one. oh, no he does that thing with his shoulders. >> they're as uncoordinated and the policies. i have a recommendation for thep politicians, elizabeth warren sway in your chair. this is a better option. >> laura: dancing to the oldies. >> don't get up. >> laura: theresa may looked like a praying mantis when she dancing.y oh, no, no. raymond. >> warren is right behind her. that boris carlos shuffle is something else. >> laura: a reference not everyone is going to get. and, he will not be dancing. and the left will indoctrinate your kids in the classroom a radical

a sense he sees from elizabeth warren and recognizes from his own run in 2016? >> i think donald trump and donald trump jr. with the pocohantas smear a week ago, that was a recognition both of them and the father in particular is worried about elizabeth warren. i think you will see donald trump targeting joe biden and elizabeth warren going forward. they represent threats to him in a different way. he sees joe biden he thinks wisconsin and michigan and swing states. he sees elizabeth warren, he sees someone smarter than him and more disciplined in him, on a debate stage could slice him up a bit. he was afraid of that with hillary clinton. the difference between hillary clinton and elizabeth warren, she's a much more effective messenger and brings real passion to this voters are starting to pick up on. >> we talked about biden in the last block and elizabeth warren. you have bernie sanders sitting there at 15, kind of tied with warren on the national level. seen a lot of other polls, seen his support dwindling. a bunch of candidates in single digits but lower sph

but for elizabeth warren this is a big deal. it gives her a chance, if you look at the trajectory of the warren candidacy, right now she's surging. she's known as the candidate with a plan for that. but if you look at how her campaign began it was really this issue, the dna test dust-up, if you will, that marred the early weeks of her candidacy and allowed people to question, would she be able to go head to head with donald trump and has she sufficiently spoken to this issue of the way in which she's dealt with her native american ancestry? and it's been interesting in talking to tribal leaders before this forum there has been a sense that that whole dust-up doesn't necessarily give them pause about her candidacy, but then today as i was talking to people attending, the issue of how she manifests her heritage is important. listen to what some people here said to me. >> is elizabeth warren going to be a woman of color now? >> she says she's not. >> how can she say she's not when she took a dna test stating she is? so she's either

elizabeth warren brings something refreshing and predictable to people. this message that she's been belaboring over and over about i have a plan. here's how will i pay for it people want to know how you will pay for things. people don't like when they hear medicare for all, that's good, but how will we pay for it? that's easy to label as a socialist policy for republicans and trump. i think she presents herself almost as the adult in the room. when everyone else is trying to tear down each other to make themselves a front-runner for how ever long it lasts, we saw this with kamala harris and joe biden, lauren doesn't take that route. she made a jab at john delaney at last debate that was smart on her end and authentic. it was sort of reinforcing her message, she's a fighter, she has a plan and she's running because she belief believes in. people are recognizing that more and more. it's not just voerts s ivotersd new hampshire. it's black voters, too. she dominates with black voters than some of the more minority candidates in the field. that's a fascinati

look at where elizabeth warren is. that's within the margin of error. this is one particular poll this week showing senator warren catching up to him with just one point. what exactly is she doing right, and perhaps what is he doing wrong? >> you know, i think elizabeth warren has an excellent ground game in a lot of these early states, such as new hampshire and iowa. she has continuously held these town halls ever since the launch of her campaign earlier this year, and she has laid out these very detailed plans, very in-depth plans. i mean, just last friday, she announced a plan on how to aid native american communities, and it was extremely detailed, in depth, and it really -- >> and extremely ironic. >> it's a little ironic, absolutely, and it comes, actually, right before she's set to address a major native american conference in iowa next week, something that vice president biden will not be at, but she'll be joining some other presidential candidates. but yes, it's very ironic, given her past statements claiming to have native american heritage an

bernie sanders used to call elizabeth warren my favorite senator. some of them saying, when is there time to be scrutiny? but there's also a myth they're going after the same 3508 of voters. they will at some point presumably go after that, but they're both at 20%, and that's obviously not the same group of voters, so they're running parallel campaigns. obviously at some point they'll clash, but they're both betting that's not anytime soon. the person that's still happy they're both in the race -- joe biden. >> you look at the way polls, if warren can win iowa, new hampshire, and if sanders can win it, same thing. they can each put that one-two punch together. >>> thank you all for joining us. >>> ahead, another house democrat joining the chorus of impeachment calls against the president. but is it any closer to happening? stay with us. is it any closer t happening? stay with us they customized my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. then i won the lottery, got hair plugs, and started working out. and so can you! only pay for what you need.

warren versus bernie sanders for the progressive lane and it looks like elizabeth warren has succeeded in moving ahead bernie sanders in that lame bill i'm agree i'm sure you'll agree that it's the it's 5 states that win the election. because i can predict this election before it starts and tell you that trump's going to win i don't trump is going to win this is the and button's going to win new york 10 and that's a given can recapture pennsylvania ohio and iowa. again i want to add california to that list also i didn't run away i want to add california sure that list of course i saw with biden trumps want to carry texas i believe. still uphill despite better o'rorke for democrats biden new york in the bag california in the bag by the way california really helps cameras as well but i believe a candidate like joe biden can yes i do believe democrats can pick up that rust belt which hillary clinton totally ignored if they're talking about working class blue collar issues issues that people care about at the kitchen table that's what trump did in hillary clinton did not in michigan in ind

warren." -- for constantly interrupting elizabeth warren." you can't demand an answer to the actual question? i know chris ma thiewf -- chriss and he's an equal opportunist when it comes to getting his questions answered. when he says how much are my taxes going up. how much will people pay? >> you back one of these people for president tonight? would you back sanders? >> secretary clinton didn't equal the numbers president trump got. >> the other problem is whatever you say about obama, he brought the nation together. trish: okay, he's passionate. but he's not sexist because he wants an answer out of elizabeth warren, robert, is he? >> these reporters now grow up in the safe space generation where they never have to face any obstacles. so when they encounter a campaign question, it means they are lying to you or they are going to lie to you when they equivocate on the question. bernie sanders will not be the democratic nominee or president. chris matthews -- trish: he certainly is a moderate these days. the bernies and elizabeth warrens of t

so there's no doubt elizabeth warren isp or the rise. there's no doubt the story in some ways the first eight months of this race, she's been the one candidate who has had consistent upward trajectory since the race started. you've seen bernie sanders on the downslide throughout or joe biden kind of teetering, losing support but really warren has been the story of a candidate with focused energy, strength, good campaign organizations in places like iowa, new hampshire. is this combination the 1-2 punch of a declarative apology at this point and her kind of trademark policy proposals on it, is this the thing that allows her to put this question behind her? this is a long question but i ask one last thing about it, which is this controversy is never really about native american ancestry. this controversy has been about eabout elizabeth warren's authenticity. was she lying before this thing to get advantages that were meant to be given to people of color, nonwhite, people of minority? has she moved past all of that? again donald trump aside

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elizabeth warren. i did the pocahontas thing. i hit her really hard, and it looked like she was down and out, but that was too long ago. i should have waited. but don't worry, we will revive it. >> david, is this trump being trump or is the pressure getting to him? >> yeah, it's trump being trump, which is cruelty and using conjecture and using insults that are unbecoming of the presidency itself and of the office that he holds and the office he's seeking re-election to, and i think whoever the democrats nominate, whichever one of those fine people he actually was describing, will be able to draw that contrast of decency with the president come november 2020. but chris, look how hard on this singular issue of the economy, the one issue that he seems to be polling best at, look how hard he's still having to sell that. and what he's selling often, as we were talking about previously, is kind of a relative argument. the reality is, the market has been doing well, particularly if you're not one of those 50% that are not in the market

elizabeth warren is poison for that coalition. she is the entirely wrong answer and probably even worse than bernie sanders. >> melissa: there is no passion behind it. >> dagen: i want to get katie and hear about the head-to-head. we are taking a look at the head-to-head versus the democratic candidates and donald trump. i mentioned in the introduction, he doesn't even poll of a 40%. is that meaningful at this point? >> katie: i would say no. [laughs] especially if you go state-by-state. when you compare the policies directly, that's not what is being asked in terms of the polling and the questioning here. you are going to have to wait until there is one candidate to really understand whether president trump will beat them or not. >> jessica: we are 14 months out. i think trendlines are important to focus on and there was one result from this that we didn't have up on the board, extremely important. 60% of democratic voters want a return to normalcy in washington, versus only 36% that want a revolution. >> katie: what does that me

elizabeth warren is having a moment. elizabeth warren, it is funny to watch all my pundit friends go, all right, this biden/warren showdown is coming. but there is another member of the progressive wing of this party, frankly, some would call it the current member of his activism. can they exist in the same primary and one of them still win this nomination? >> not all the way through probably. but they can exist for quite a long time. and that's the significant thing about this moment. when i just looked at the poll you had, and at some of the other recent polls, it's important to understand that there is about 20 or 25% of people who are saying they are with candidates other than biden, sanders, and warren. so, the thing to recognize here is that sanders and warren have a lot of territory where they can still pick up support and kind of establish a position before they have to worry about going after each other. now that doesn't mean that sanders doesn't worry about it. he should. but this thing is -- i don't think gett

i don't know if i were a betting man, i would bet on elizabeth warren. if you look at the average, real clear politics, you will see most of the candidates are sort of declining. you know, even biden's lead though increased has not been because he has attracted more voters. it is because bernie sanders was a close for second place them before. i don't know. i'm not a person who believes gaps really necessarily hurt you. sometimes they can humanize you, but his recent gap, when parkland happened and saying he was in vermont when in new hampshire, that has raised a lot of questions. if i were a biden team, he felt this way about games where you go into last quarter, six points ahead but you think, we are not going to win. and if you look at that real clear politics average, you will see elizabeth warren is one of the few on the general upswing. >> dana: but what about the concerns that the so-called establishment come i should say of the democratic party, it's like, they are not so sure. they've never been sure about bernie. how is she trying to say she's

we asked elizabeth warren that question today. because she is one of the candidates who has called him a white supremacist. we said to her, what does that say about the people who support him? she blew right by it. she knew it was not a place she wanted to go. i would agree there is a caveat to the strategy i laid out. if trump is able to convince people that they are being demonized by simply the fact they even responded to him four years ago, that could be something that helps him a lot. >> is there an audience that if you're talking about these reluctant trump voters i take your point. maybe they view this as an indictment, that kind of attack as an indictment on our own character or is there a risk that trump's own behavior especially in the last couple weeks makes them reconsider the charge? not about themselves but about him? >> well, it probably does. it most certainly should. i'm not sure what argument democrats are going to make for themselves in 2020 but that the president is unfit for office dispositionally and in terms

we're talking about elizabeth warren. take a listen. >> elizabeth warren. [ audience reacts ] i did the pocahontas thing. i hit her really hard. and it looked like she was down and out. but that was too long ago. i should have waited. but don't worry, we will revive it. it can be revived. it can be -- right? >> i mean, ned, have people just had enough of that racial slur? where do you stand on that one? >> well, no, i want to go to a bigger picture. i've been looking at these numbers. i do think elizabeth warren stands a very good chance of actually winning the nomination. i don't think joe biden gets across the finish line first. i don't think bernie sanders is going to get it. tulsi gabbard backed a dump truck over kamala harris in the last debate. i don't think mayor pete has -- and all of a sudden, i'm looking the at the math going, elizabeth warren could do it. >> ned, look -- all right, elizabeth warren may get her over the finish line, but what about those slurs? your take? are we done with them? is it enough? >> w

paul: elizabeth warren, i know that you're a big fan of her program, bill. [laughter] paul: but i think you have to respect and be impressed by her -- her own progress in this race. >> yeah, i probably don't agree with elizabeth warren in anything but i'm impressed on her campaign, she has put a good team in iowa, if you look at real clear politics average in the polls, the granted the polls are early, she's the only one of all the candidates that has been on a slow upswing for the most part of the campaign. i think she worked hard, i think she does excite a lot of the base, i mean, people they want to beat donald trump but they also want someone to be excited about to go into that and i think she has some of that with -- a lot can happen with some of the lesser known candidates, whether they have a good debate night or so forth. biden's problem is people know him, wow, cory booker looked good, or castro looked good, are people going to say that about joe biden? >> competing theories in the race, do you counter right-wing populism and left-wing populism, tha

elizabeth warren. conservative and moderate democrats, what do you attribute the shift to. >> the sample size of the poll was small so we might be looking at an outlier but the trends are similar in terms of other polls in terms of the rise of warren and bernie sanders and they're pulling at each other's support. joe biden's support among some demographics is strong, it is soft among others. and they are shopping and looking at other candidates and see who might better represent them. one thing that elizabeth warren has going for her and sanders struggles is she explains her policies well so people could understand them. >> is that a plan. >> she's got a plan. she has that down. but she's good on the stump and ability to break things down instead of i wrote the damn plan -- >> the damn bill. >> i wrote the damn bill. that is one place that i've heard from folks who have been out on the trail and been listening that she has an advantage. but we're at the very beginning of the process and we'll see biden

there is more momentum in polls for elizabeth warren. look at these clouds she has been drawing, 15,000 people her campaign says in seattle this weekend. she drew another 12,000 in minnesota last week. joining us now, cnn political analyst, david gregory, and joe lockhart, former clinton white house press secretary and cnn political commentator. all the caveats, one poll, the margin of error is plus or minus 6%, which means biden could have a 12 point lead, if your whole campaign is based on electability and you are the most assured in your argument to win the race, a poll that doesn't necessarily show you winning, how problematic is this? >> i think it is problematic. this is about enthusiasm. it's why we have campaigns. people show up and not just perceive the strengths and weaknesses. it's why the debates matter as well. what elizabeth warren is showing is a couple of things. there's a lot of enthusiasm among the progressive ranks of the democratic party. a lot of sorting out that democrats are trying to do about what's a winning stra

elizabeth warren, 11 to 4. so there really is not, even though it says biden is a clear frontrunner in the polls, the betting odds, not so much. here is some interesting stuff. let's go into some more of the fun stuff, okay? celebrity odds. u.s. presidential betting odds, measurable obama is 100 to 1 that she'll win the election. oprah winfrey, 150 to 1. george clooney, 250 to 1. melania trump bets, revealed to be living with another man in trump's first term, 8 to 1. this is real stuff, guys. trump to marry for fourth time as president is 50 to 1. okay. other bets. trump convicted by the senate in his first term, 16 to 1. trump impeached by the house in his first term, 3 to 1. trump opens area 51 to the public in his first term, 2 to 1. france will ask for the statue of liberty back, 2 to 1, you can maybe that bet. finally, trump to have a u.s. navy ship named after him, 7 to 1. trump to have a u.s. military base named after him, 12 to 1. trump to publish precise definitions of his hands on twitter and trump t

you're seeing movement by elizabeth warren, who seem to be on his heels. for bernie sanders, he seems to be retreating and seeming to see some of his support go to elizabeth warren. some of the other candidates, there are so many that are below 1% or struggling to break out and do anything to really shake up the practitrajectory of the . four months after the last poll biden is in the same position he is. the fact they're going to be voting in six months or so, the fact that we've seen so much happen in the news and haven't actually seen movement by so many different candidates, especially those polling at 2% or lower, they'll have to do something to change that. >> booker in particular, he's got a pretty big operation down there and beto and pete buttigieg as well. a lot of these folks are in the single digits and have to make some movement. >> one thing we want to note about this monmouth university poll locking in 2% of the vote among likely iowa caucus goers, that means he has officially qualified for the debate stage in september. he's the ninth democ

but what do you see with elizabeth warren pulling in the 15,000 this weekend? >> two things, lawrence. before i touch that, i actually want to get further in the polling nerd weeds and that is talk about why you do see often the numbers move around is what's a likely voter. lawrence, we're lucky if we get half of americans to vote in a general election. you're getting a lot less than that who are voting in a primary, so instead commercial fishing is more like fly fishing. for us to figure out what the primary electorate is is not always that easy. you will see some movement depending on who they let in screen, who they don't let in screen, especially in atlanta who has a wide swath of voters who can enter the democratic primary and play that democratic primary, guessing the electorate becomes just that. it becomes just as much art as science, so you will see some movement there in the polls. i got really nerdy on you with polls and samples. that said, i think that when you look at the crowd size -- i worked for a guy in 2008 where we started seeing these immens

he is a not a complement to elizabeth warren or to any of them. he advocates for open borders with socialist policies so i don't think he is even qualified for that. >> david, not even open borders. he actually told chris hayes of msnbc in an interview a couple of months ago he would tear down the borders around el paso. not even open. he wants to take down walls altogether. that is even beyond open borders. but again, that seems to be the way the democratic party is going on the issue in terms of not just allowing people to come in illegally. but also knocking down walls keeping them from coming in illegally. >> gregg: we have run out of time for me to trash elizabeth warren and kamala harris for accusing the police officer in the shooting death of michael brown of murder. when, in fact, they are both lawyers. i mean, c'mon, they know the definition of "murder." >> gregg, one point. >> gregg: go ahead. >> politifact never fact checked elizabeth warren's claim she is part cherokee indian. if you are a fact checkings a, i would think it would be at

she is able to claw her way back and people are excited about elizabeth warren. the rock, on the season premier of ballers was reading an elizabeth warren's book. that given you how far she's broken into tit. she's not making enemies or mistakes. she's really doing something extraordinary right now. >> the warren/sanders. you call it a block. i happen to think that their coalition don't line up one to one. i think that bernie sanders does better with non-college white men and she does better with women. how long do you think they can survive this mutual non-aggression pact they have right now? >> look, i don't know. it can't last forever. they're benefiting from each other because they are stretching out the window of idea. they're stretching out the over tuned window where ideas are off the table. four year os or six years ago. they both been pulling on that end of the rope together. at a certain point, they have to turn around, right now they're doing all of that to the detrimental to all the moderates. the moderates have to voo divide pie up. you do see some m

let me ask you about elizabeth warren. you see the surge in the polls, does that make democrats excited or a little nervous? >> they wrote an excellent piece about this and it's making a lot of democrats disturbed because she has moved into second place and she has done so at the expense of bernie sanders and she has done so by grabbing bernie supporters. she has gone up 16 points and he has dropped 13 points. therein lies the tale. if you are winning votes because you are more liberal than bernie sanders, that has to leave a lot of traditional democrats worried. >> dana: i read that piece too too. i will let you sum it up for us. >> this joe biden fade, he is making missteps and misstatements and people are getting nervous about voters thinking he might not be able to make it for the long haul. his numbers are softening and on the latest pulling out of the street journal yesterday and this is an opening progressive's belief or the alternative which was bernie and is now elizabeth warren and carl is right. if she takes ber

elizabeth warren was at 19% of the vote. bernie sanders was somewhere around 15% of the vote, which indicates what we have seen all along. that is that joe biden is up by around ten points. he's up at around 30%. that is a little bit down from where he was in late june although that's not statistically significant. i think the one noteworthy thing in there is elizabeth warren. i do think you can make a real credible case that if you look back at late june compared to now, she is up by five points. if you go back even further, she's up by double digits from where she was in april. she certainly has some momentum in her direction. >> anyone you speak to will say she's running the most disciplined campaign of everyone. >> yeah. i think she's running on plans, plans, plans and it does seem to be working for her but i still think she's behind. >> one of the biggest swings among moderate and conservative democrats, okay? you can see bernie sanders, elizabeth warren gained with those voters, while biden lost voters. what does that

she's a white woman just like elizabeth warren, and elizabeth warren doesn't have all the 20 or 30 years of baggage that hillary clinton does, so that gives her an advantage. plus, elizabeth warren also has the capacity to build on what hillary clinton did and get the progressive voters who didn't turn out in 2016. remember, hillary only lost by 77,000 votes because of three states -- 10,700 votes in michigan, 22,000 votes in wisconsin, 44,000 votes in pennsylvania. i think a progressive candidate like elizabeth warren could easily make up those 77,000 votes in those three states. that's all you need to win the electoral college. >> she's too far left for those states. all trump's got to do is paint her as a socialist, and that's going to be the end of it. >> trump is going to paint any candidate who runs, including joe biden, as a socialist. [ overlapping voices ] >> charlie, what do you think? >> the biggest gift to donald trump i think would be an blauf elizabeth warren candidacy. let's face it. i don't think the american public wants to replace a nativist right wing populist presiden

it's elizabeth warren who is in second place in iowa. it's elizabeth warren who is within single digits now of joe biden, the leader in iowa. of course, when we talk about iowa, the democratic caucus electorate, we tend to be talking about more liberal voters and that is where the energy is. this is among self-described very liberal democrats in iowa. warren doubling up bernie sanders. you see biden. he is back in single digits. warren has moved up significantly in iowa. also, this pole suggests those who are most likely who are to go out. you've got to be there for hours. those who are most likely to go out and put that time commitment in a little bit more supportive of warren than sort of more general interests of voters. so warren moving up in iowa in striking distance. here's where things get interesting. because if warren let -- let's imagine a world where warren catches biden in iowa. where she beats biden in iowa. what would come next? new hampshire. that's the next-door neighbor state. she is in third place right now. remember, m

but look at elizabeth warren, she's up to 20%. she trails by 11 points but up eight points since july. senator bernie sanders rounding out the top three at 10%. but he's down a five points since july. voters were asked who would win in a potential match-up with president trump and some of those democratic candidates. biden came out as the clear winner with 50% saying they would back his run against donald trump. 38% said they would vote for president trump in that hypothetical match-up. voters who had a negative view of both trump and biden still backed biden by 43-10% margin in the head to head match-up and president trump is polling below several other democratic challengers as well. nine points behind bernie sanders and seven behind elizabeth warren and six points behind kamala harris. president trump is steady no matter who he is up against at 38, 39%. >> getting pounded. and gene robinson, it seems to me that if you're inside the white house and you're looking at the numbers, the one that's most concerning is a question of wh

she's a white woman just like elizabeth warren. and elizabeth warren doesn't have all the 20, 30 years of baggage hillary clinton does. that gives her an advantage. plus elizabeth warren also has the capacity to build on what hillary clinton did and get the progressive voters who didn't turnout in 2016. remember, hillary only lost by 77,000 votes because of three states. 10,000 votes, 10,700 in wisconsin, 22,000 votes in michigan, 4,000 votes in pen-. i think ee llizabeth warren can makeup those votes in the electoral college . >> she's too far left. he can paint her as a socialist. her policies are good government -- >> she's not a socialist. >> end on this, charlie. >> the biggest gift -- the biggest gift of donald trump i think would be an elizabeth warren candidacy. let's face it, i don't think the american public wants to replace a nativist -- i'll say maybe a right wing populist presidency in donald trump with a angry economic populist presidency in a elizabeth warren. this would open up the center of the country. remember, i

we'll see joe biden on the same stage with elizabeth warren. whether that changes the dynamics here is another question. because still with ten people it's an incredibly crowded debate stage. we're talking about 90 seconds to two minutes for answers tops with rebuttals. not exactly substantive debate but we will be getting to see the contrast we want to see. after this debate the field will narrow even further, naturally or not, and will get an even tighter debate stage after that. >> jonathan allen, we've got the two polls out today and monmouth comes out and says we should all just forget about that monmouth poll and people were leaning in that direction already anyway but there's joe biden with this solid 32% that's right back there and he's right back in that solid position. and everyone else is in an alignment they've been settled into now for a couple of weeks with elizabeth warren essentially coming in second in these kinds of polls. the rest of the field, the way they've been lining up in most of the other polls. is this starting to gel

let's vote for elizabeth, pocahontas warren. charles: president calling out president and other democrats at the rally in new hampshire. warren has been a target. she is heating up. moved into solid second place among 2020 democrats in the a new "fox news poll." the question will the stock keep rising? stephanie hamel and max burns. max, let me start with you. i really think warren is a person touching on the new age democrat, not completely socialist. putting out actual plans, not all pie-in-the-sky. i got to wait to achieve tease things. it may be working for her. >> she has put numbers behind her ideas. the challenge for joe biden the front-runner, the more people see elizabeth warren, the more they like her. the more they see joe biden the more they like elizabeth warren. i don't think biden is prepared for the ground game that warren has rolled out very well. charles: president trump stepping up comments on elizabeth warren, sensing it will no longer be joe biden. he tries to stay ahead of the game which helped him a lot in

what do you think when you turn on the tv and see elizabeth warren's crowd? >> i think joe biden is traveling to early states and getting incredible reaction. >> so is elizabeth warren. >> we had events in new hampshire this weekend with overflow crowds. i think if you're looking at crowd size as a metric, and i'm not so sure it's the be all and end all, but if you are you're looking at it as the be all and end all, joe biden's is significant. most importantly people are connecting with him. i think that's something joe biden brings to this race nobody else does, is an ability to connect with voters to let them know he understands what they're going through. he knows their lives because he's lived it and they believed that about him and they have a fundamental connection with him. when he's out talking about stroering the soul of t restoring the soul of the nation and treating people with dignity, people know he means continue that's not something you can fake. that's authenticity. pell react to that. we are encouraged by the way people are reacting to him on

you talked about elizabeth warren rising, bernie sanders rising. health care is one of the reasons they're rising. what joe biden is trying to do is not allow any time to pass here over these summer months by not allowing any of his supporters to think, you know what, elizabeth warren might be right on this, trying to shake people into remembering that he believes is the strongest person to go after him. but once you play this play, you can't do it again in october or november or december. i was a little struck by the fact that it was being used in august. he's trying to hold on to his lead as best eke. >> you've obviously paid very close attention to the race and this is something i want to explore. they have two buys, not massive but two buys. most everybody else isn't up with anything right now. what's the strategy here? is it to snuff any competitors out, try to maintain a lead or this is the message they think can win? >> to jeff's point, the polling shows as well there is this moment of volatility right now in the campaign. i don't know that

he was a fan of bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. nothing to do with straubel but nobody ever mentions that. i don't blame elizabeth warren and i don't blame bernie sanders in the case of ohio and i don't blame anybody but a blame, these are sick people. these are people that are mentally ill and mentally disturbed. some mental problem and we are going to be meeting with members of congress. i have hardly got meeting schedules and i have had plenty of talks over the last few days. i think something is going to be -- we are going to come up with something that's going to be really very good beyond anything that's been done so far. [inaudible] >> we are going to see where we are. we are dealing with leadership right now and you know you have two sites that are very different over this issue or let's say all good people but to sites that are very different. they get close i will bring them back again to see where we are with leadership. normally this is done really a decision, congress gets together and they try to do something but if y

as elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. the very idea that you have to win popular support for your policies seem to enrage them. warren, especially. at one point, they accused a cnn person as being a secret republican. first time that has ever happened. >> do not support medicare for all. >> your question is a republican talking point. >> what you want to do instead is find republican talking points of a made up piece of some other part and say oh, we don't really have to do anythin anything. stop using republican talking points in order to talk with each other about health care. see one that really was the story of the whole night. elizabeth worn jumping up and down and barking at anyone who asks too many questions. not everything elizabeth says is wrong. we actually like her views about manufacturing and trade for example. holy smokes, is warren unbearable in a lot of ways. nasty as. watch how she treated john delaney, who is one of the nicest men in politics. >> i think democrats win the one we run on real solutions, no

he was a fan of bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. nothing to do with trump, but nobody ever mentions that. [inaudible] mr. trump: say it? [inaudible] mr. trump: no, i don't blame elizabeth warren and i don't blame bernie sanders, in the case of ohio, and i don't blame anybody. i blame these are sick people. these are people that are really mentally ill, mentally disturbed. it's a mental problem and we're going to be meeting, we're going to be meeting with members of congress. i've already gotten meetings scheduled and i have plenty of talks over the last two days. i think something is going to come up, we're going to come up with something that really can -- is going to be really very good, beyond anything that's been done so far. [inaudible] mr. trump: well, we are going to see where we are. we're dealing with leadership right now, and you know you had two sides that are very different on this issue. and let's say all good people, the two sides that are very different. if we get close i will bring them back right it has to be, we ha

elizabeth warren drawing some of the largest crowds. a poll released last week points to a big surge to her. she's in second place in the state behind biden with sanders slipping from april. jeff zeleny is in iowa taking a look at warren's ground game. >> hello, iowa state fair. >> elizabeth warren is making a big splash in iowa. but beyond the teeming crowds, her campaign is building something more impressive to many democrats here, a ground organization with a person-to-person network growing to the day in backyards like this. >> i want to say a very special thank you to drew and carol. where are you? >> drew and carol have been following the 2020 campaign closely, but not this closely until one of warren's organizizers reached out and asked if they would host the senator. >> it was awesome to have her here. the neighbors, everybody was excited that she was here. >> do you plan to volunteer for her at all? >> yeah. i think we would entertain the idea. i support her enough to do that. >> across town, kari is a volunteer in warren's arm

elizabeth warren at 20%. it is not over yet. >> you wouldn't bet on someone else, you bet on the field. you'd much rather have a 40% chance than a 10%. joe biden has been compared to jeb bush and others based off name recognition. he's got them over a hump. one last thing, i have a new podcast, folks, the forecastfest with me. you should listen. it is good stuff. >> congratulations on that. >> thank you. if you like what you heard. the forecast, subscribe via itunes. >> thank you. >> thank you for the invite. >> you didn't get one? >> we'll get you on. >> noted. a new scare in a nation on edge. what we know about a heavily armed man who walked through a walmart and sent police scrambling through the store. that's what happens in golf nothiand in life.ily. i'm very fortunate i can lean on people, and that for me is what teamwork is all about. you can't do everything yourself. you need someone to guide you and help you make those tough decisions, that's morgan stanley. they're industry leaders, but the most imp