did the state department official who blew the whistle on mike pompeo today know that mike pompeo was planning to defy those subpoenas? mike pompeo was part of what nancy pelosi has called the coverup about that phone call. mike pompeo didn't blow the whistle on that phone call after listening to it, but today a senior state department official blew the whistle on mike pompeo. the whistles are not going to stop in the trump administration. every trump enabler should fear the sound of the next whistle. when president nixon was forced to resign, when a democratic congress was still investigating his criminality, president nixon wasn't the only one destroyed by that impeachment investigation. president nixon's attorney general went to prison. president nixon's white house chief of staff went to prison, 48 officials were found guilty of crimes. tonight mike pompeo needs a criminal defense lawyer. the secretary of state needs his own privately paid for criminal defense aurora to advise him on how to handle his response to the impeachment investigation. mike pompeo has no attorney/client pr

interests do not align with mike pompeo. he was not acting as a rogue figure here. he was doing it on behalf of the state department. because that protects him. the state department is saying, no, you weren't. and william barr gets put in here because he looked at his justice department looked at the initial ig report and said nothing to see here. so all of them are exposed. and what we know about people around trump, they'll do whatever they can to take care of themselves. not just for democrats on the hill, but journalists covering the story as people try to cover themselves moving forward. >> this is also why it's going to be so important to hear from volcker tomorrow. because it's important that it was kurt volker who asked giuliani to intercede. you hear again in a transcript of that phone call that zelensky wants to talk to giuliani. he says i want to talk to your guy giuliani. >> he may very well have. that's a big problem for mike pompeo and the state department. it's like one of these games where at the end of the d

mike pompeo tried to hide the fact he was on the call. he appears clearly now in an interview with nbc's affiliate in nashville tennessee, he appears clearly now to be trying to hide something about when and where he was meeting with rudy giuliani when the scheme was being hatched. did you in fact meet with rudy giuliani in warsaw earlier this year before we all knew this scheme was underway? and everybody is trying to get as far away as they can from this, right? but with the first arrests, with not just one but multiple photos of the president and the vice president with these men who were just arrested and the president's eldest son with these men who were just arrested, with news about the white house dinner that president trump invited these men who were just arrested to just last year. that's him inviting them to the white house for a meeting, for a dinner meeting, right? i mean, this is a downward spiral at this point. the homeland security secondary resigned tonight. the energy secretary reck perry is facing a subpoena for his inv

. >> secretary of state mike pompeo is taking questions right now. let's reset top of the hour, bring you more of this news conference in just a second. >> all right. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." secretary of state mike pompeo taking questions in rome. let's listen in. >> translator: the u.s. attempt to support italy's approach when it comes to ending the violence and to promote a cease-fire. which do you intend to work with and how? >> so we had extensive discussions today. we had had them as well about libya. our mission set is similar. we -- >> we'll hear from him as well. we will come back to this if and when the secretary faces questions on the issue of the impeachment investigation. obviously democrats say he is a fact witness to this investigation now because the reporting is that mike pompeo listened in on the phone call where president trump leaned on the ukrainian president to dig up dirt on joe biden. joining us now is cnn political analyst maggie haberman. she is the white house

clearly mike pompeo is beginning to look after mike pompeo instead of donald trump. he is thinking about his future because if he was doing what trump wants him to do, he should have wheeled on the camera and said it was a perfect call, i heard it. he didn't do that. he is being careful. he was lying by omission, by not admitting at that moment to martha rad its that he was on the call. and today he is once again stone walling and stiffing the constitutional requirement that he cooperate and provide transparent information in an impeachment inquiry. >> mika, take us inside that room tomorrow when the inspector general's going to be meeting -- first of all, this meeting is as unprecedented to you as it is to me, right? you've never seen anything like this? >> i've never seen anything like this, but we've never had a president who was so clearly at the center of a misconduct allegation like this. we've never seen this before. >> what can you imagine the inspector general from state is bringing that is of interest to all of these different committees? his normal relatio

as you said with bill barr, and at the state department with mike pompeo. and i think what you'll see is the state department has officials who are uncomfortable with that conduct and perhaps the inspector general is one of those people if he saw, again, documents that he's uncomfortable with, he's gone to congress. certainly the people who have already agreed to testify are uncomfortable. but also the state department answers to congress. this is a co-equal branch of government. the state department is funded by congress. the state department knows that congress will be there after president trump, whether that's after an impeachment inquiry or an election or whenever it is. and so, look, i've been on the other side of this. when mike pompeo was in the house, i testified in front of one of his endless benghazi committee hearings. even though i was a white house official. when you have the power of congress in an impeachment inquiry in particular, you can compel testimony. and i'm sure that there are a lot of people at the state department who would like no

mike pompeo removed her earlier. she and volker are on the outs, were clearly uncomfortable with what rudy giuliani was up to in ukraine and what donald trump was up to in ukraine. it's not a surprise to me that they're the first people who are going to testify in front of that impeachment inquiry. the republicans used to be more hawkish about this, they used to say we weren't doing enough to support ukraine. now republicans have done a 180, saying there's nothing wrong with this call transcript. it's a window into the cynicism of the republican party. >> as we head into the next couple of days with mike pompeo essentially threatening he's going to try to block those officials you were describing from speaking to congress, we don't know exactly when these depositions are going to happen, who is going to show return how much the state department will do to try to block them from doing this, how do you expect that that's going to roll out over the next week or so as congress tries to get testimony from those folks? do

we know from jeanne's reporting that mike pompeo was on the call, so mike pompeo either thought there was nothing wrong with eight requests to investigate hunter biden, or he'd seen something worse and i'm not sure -- i think both make him an even more important witness to be responsive to subpoenas. >> it's interesting, the thug culture. if you probably -- saw a tape of bill barr 10, 15 years ago, saw a tape of mike pompeo 10, 15 years ago, different. it's amazing that transformation that happens in trump's orbit, and to your point, to your point earlier, i do not think the invincibility translates down. >> uh-huh. >> two things that happened with two republicans in the last two days, the fact that mitch mcconnell actually came out and said, no, we're going to have to move forward with the impeachment happens, whereas there is wiggle room there which is surprising and chuck grassley today. i do think, and jeff flake has said, there are 35 republicans if they can do it anonymously would vote. i do think as this thing goes along, and many republicans see that at best, he survives but h

that mike pompeo. the same mike pompeo whose state department has launched this utterly insane inquiry into the former secretary of state and yes, this is what i'm talking about, hillary clinton's former aids and their e-mails. you heard that right three years after the fact. they're now looking into as many 130 members of the state department after announce that they have in 2019 ret row actively classified things they sent to hillary clinton which could now constitute potential security violation. yes, no, you're not crazy. that is what i said. the state department officials said things that the time not classified. three years later the trump administration came in and classified those things, and alm those people one of whom we're going to hear from in a little h bit are now under state department investigation. that mike pompeo. like mike pence and attorney general william barr is up to his eyeballs in all of this. speak of barr the scandal unfolding at the department of justice, the attorney gene

when rex tillerson was fired and mike pompeo took over the state department, mike pompeo said we're going to bring swagger back to the state department. even a lot of foreign service officers who didn't particularly like donald trump, there was a little bit of a sense of a reprieve. i think that honeymoon is long gone. >> carol, it was because there was a lot of suspicion against him initially because he had attacked the state department so vociferously when he was on house oversight, at the benghazi hearings. at the same time, he lifted the job freeze, he started replacing people, started putting people in these vacancies, appointing ambassadors. there was a lot of talk about him being smart, west point, cia. but it's gone south. >> it's gone south, as you very well know. what the former ambassador to ukraine's testimony does is, she paints this picture of saying that there is a personal -- people are doing things for personal gain, for their own interests broadly, not just when it just to ukraine, broadly, and that that is what's driving u.s. foreign policy, and it's usurping the diplom

so now on to secretary of state mike pompeo. we now know that he was on that july 25th phone call where president trump pushed the president of ukraine to investigate the bidens according to a source familiar. but in an interview more than a week ago, the secretary of state indicated he knew nothing about that phone call. >> what do you know about those conversations? >> so you just gave me a report about a whistle-blower complaint none of which i've seen. >> and secretary pompeo has been this morning seemingly defiant against the subpoena he was issued for ukraine-related documents from the house committee, saying they are bullying and intimidating state department officials they've also called for deposition. then to lindsey graham. lashing out also really echoing the president's intense questioning of the whistle-blower's knowledge and motives. >> here's my question. is this whistle-blower, whoever he or she may be, do they have any connection to the intelligence community? the old intelligence community that was corrupt as h

pompeo and documents will be subpoenaed from rudy giuliani, and they're asking for them from mike pompeo. are you saying this has shifted into a higher gear just because of the whistle-blower complaint? >> exactly. what we have had revealed to congress and more importantly to the american people is that the president has put his self interest once again, above that of the american people. and as these facts come out, the facts are what is going to set the time line for this inquiry. but we do think it is important to note, that when the office of the inspector general for national intelligence reviewed this complaint, it met -- it met the standard of being urgent and credible. and we have to continue our investigation meeting that same standard. you know, call the credible witnesses, the leads we have from the complaint and do it with an urgency. this is -- this is about a betrayal of the oath of office. this is about a threat to our national security. and it is about a president who is willing to put the integrity of our elections coming up in just a year at risk for his own political g

martha raddatz of abc was interviewing secretary of state mike pompeo. let's listen to part of that interview. >> he pressed the ukrainian president eight times to ask about joe biden's son. what do you know about those conversations? >> you gave me a report about a whistle-blower complaint, none of which i've seen. >> you just gave me a complaint about a whistle-blower complaint that i have never seen. he was on that fophone call. >> yeah. he's a witness. the president appears to be pressuring the ukrainian president, compromising america for political gain and he's using military and foreign aid as leverage. mike pompeo might be a witness to that. >> even if he weren't in on that phone call, he was named in that memo of that transcript, which would also make him materially important. >> exactly. that's why it's all the more disturbing. he may have further knowledge of those allegations of using foreign aid as leverage to pressure the ukrainian leader. >> i don't know what your relationship was with come puello in congress, but he must understand oversi

their letter was to the deputy secretary of state because they're saying mike pompeo can't even be in the dialogue about this. he's a witness. he can't be in the dialogue. >> it's a fair opinion. it involved the president repeatedly mentioning him as part of the scheme for which he's going to be impeached, bill barr should have recused and taken himself out of it because he's implicated in it. it's the same thing with mike pompeo, and i think ultimately those norms will be ratified here, and i don't think it's going to i understand well for barr or pompeo. they don't have the same kind of immunity from liability that the does by virtue of the oval office. >> they might have a new justice department with a new attorney jegeneral appointed by a democratic party looking into what they've been up to right now. >> attorneys general have been indicted in the past, and attorney general john mitchell went to prison for having done stuff for richard nixon that he knew better than to do himself. these guys saying they'll do anything for the president not necessarily will save themselves even if

and remember, pompeo now is at the center of this as well because we know that mike pompeo was on that july 25th phone call, the one that we have the call logs from where the president of the united states has that conversation with the ukrainian president. that is at the center of all of this. the depositions that the house democrats want to get, they want to try to fill in some of the gray areas on what that call was about, maybe it was on the back end of it as well. and crucially, what happened with that call call log and whether or not it was treated in any other way. because that's at the core of what the whistle-blower is alleging, is that this was somehow put in a separate position, in a separate secure location, and the officials themselves in the white house were concerned about the call, hallie. >> hans nichols there at the white house. thanks. let me bring in now a member of the house judiciary committee. congressman steve cohen, democrat from tennessee moining us from memphis. thank you for being with us. >> you're welcome, hallie. >> a little bit of a delay in our studio l

this is someone so close to mike pompeo. mike pompeo brought him in. clearly, he was unhappy with how the administration was handling ukraine how they unceremonious po pulled the ambassador maria yovanovitch from her post early. >> i think it's one more sign of the white house strategy of not complying is crumbling. he sent a letter to speaker pelosi saying that they did not consider the impeachment inquiry to be legitimate essentially and people would not be testifying and documents would not be submitted. that was followed up yesterday by mike pence, vice president mike pence, also saying the same thing, he would not submit documents. you have nonetheless, these people, this man today and the other testimony in the last several days of important officials who know things about this particular incident who know about the relationship, who know about the ukraine call testifying. >> that has got to be a proceed to this white house. >> basically, what we know about their testimony, they are backing up the central part of the whistleblower's complaint, ar

mike pompeo did not allow it to be known for a couple of weeks that he had been on that call. he professed ignorance about what had happened there. and then when we found out he had been on that call, we know that's one of the things he sat through. how -- what does that do to a secretary of state for everybody who serves in the foreign service, everybody who serves in the state department to know that he abided that? >> it does a lot of damage, for a few reasons. first, you expect the leadership of the state department to stand up for its people. >> yeah. >> in the face of unfair and unfounded accusations. and second, you have another obligation to the constitution. you know, when you have the president of the united states clearly trying to use public office and the leverage of the united states not to promote the national interests, but to promote private political interest, that's also a big problem. >> we've learned just tonight that a senior adviser to secretary of state pompeo, michael mckinley, who is a career diplomat, very well respected, has served ambassador posts

it was then delivered to mike pompeo for him to look into it. the inspector general from the department has now handed it over to congress. from what we have learned about these materials, it seems like this was an effort to sabotage and to end the career of marie yavanovich, a veteran ambassador and foreign service officer. >> right. >> first, i don't know if you know ambassador ivanovich or if you have any insight into this sort of effort against her. >> i do, and it's disgraceful. she is a distinguished foreign service officer, nonpolitical. she was -- came up through the ranks. she was the ambassador to armenia, appointed under the bush administration. when i became secretary of state, i visited armenia. i know her work. she's a serious level-headed ambassador. a real credit to the foreign service. and so what they did -- and we now know giuliani was actually seeking advice from paul manafort. what they did was to say, okay, what are all the obstacles in our way of trying to peddle these conspiracy theories? because remember, manafort was pe

it raises a question of how much else mike pompeo knew. he knew about that, did he know about what the people that work in his state department were doing? we saw evidence that kurt volker who worked for mike pompeo took a direct quid pro quo to the ukrainian government. said if you want a meeting with president trump you have to announce these investigations. was pompeo aware of that? it's hard to imagine he wasn't at least in some generality. probably much more. >> matt our correspondent on the ground in kiev, matt bradley reported that there is an, a review that's going to happen on several cases here. does it appear that the quid pro quo then worked, do you think? >> i think it absolutely worked. had it not been for the whistle-blower coming forward and blowing the wis onl what's happening in the white house, the review would have been announced, announced without all the fanfare. and you would have seen a lot of media stories that the vice president's son is now under investigation and the republicans would have taken it and ran and s

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and this guy was negative on mike pompeo. he can't -- you know, there's an expression, he couldn't carry his blank strap, i won't say it because they'll say it was terrible to say, but he couldn't carry his blank strap, do you understand that? you deal with bad people, you know, i watched china over the last few days and i watched some of these other countries, build up, build up, and we built up more than any of them because of me but no help from the democrats, they're a disaster. they're the do-nothing democrats, they're a disaster, all they want to do is win the election in 2020 so they come up with this impeachment nonsense. everyone knows, all based on one phone call that i have where i'm talking to the president of ukraine, you'll hear from our ambassadors, you'll hear from some of the folks that know all about the call, why the call was set up, and everything else. it's perfect. the call was perfect. in fact lindsey graham said i didn't know you could be so nice. there was no quid pro quo. remember, before they said,

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>>> secondary of state mike pompeo was also on the trump ukraine phone call. >> rudy giuliani gives his first response to a house subpoena in the trump impeachment inquiry. >>> 70 years of communist rule in china, marked by a parade in beijing in protest, right now in hong kong. >>> college athletes could get paid under a bill just signed in california. but will the ncaa play ball? welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. it's tuesday, october 1st. 4:00 a.m. in new york. 4:00 p.m. in hong kong. 11:00 a.m. in kiev. >>> we begin in the nation's capital with the latest on the whistleblower scandal. mike pompeo was on the call between president trump and the ukrainian president, zelensky. the state department has not responded for cnn's request for comment. here's what pompeo told abc news about that call last week. >> what do you know about those conversations? >> you just gave me a report about a whistleblower complaint, none of which i've seen. pompeo has not addressed the call with the ukrainian le

now, we know that mike pompeo has been subpoenaed. we know that mike pompeo is probably going to hold out against that subpoena. if mike pence withholds document, the next will be a subpoena of him. and which way does he go? does he accept the rule of congress or dig down deeper in support of donald trump. i suspect it will be the latter. >> scott lucas live in birmingham, england. thank you. >> thank you, george. >>> i want to take you now to hong kong. we have been monitoring the situation there. tens of thousands on the streets marching against a new emergency ban on face masks. police have fired tear gas into the crowds. take a look at this live image at 5:10 p.m. there. we're watching what happens on the streets. let's go now to ana coren who is there. what more can you tell us? let's go back to the live image as we get ana in position there. you see the live images on the streets just a short time ago. in fact, 13 minutes ago perhaps that we were looking at the images of police using tear gas. they had a sign that said they will

why don't we begin with mike pompeo? you just heard him -- at best it sounds like he's being disingenuous, at worst lying about a call he was on. the questions susan raddich couldn't have more clear. >> if mike pompeo was on that call and he's just saying he didn't know about what was happening on the call, he's clearly lied. the american people have to take that into account. i think that we now have yet another cabinet officer, who is ensnared in this, probably wanted to keep his distance, but he's ensnared. >> west point where he graduated from has an honor code. i wonder what classmates would think of that answer. >> yes. >> susan page, let's make what is a fair distinction here. the president pressuring a foreign country, but dig up dirt on a political opponent, but what barr is up to is the origins of the 2016 election. is there something fundamental wrong with that investigation, asking allyies. >> both of them are efforts to protect the president's political aspects. the barr investigation is an effort to discred

strategies for mike pompeo when it comes to the impeachment inquiry. this week when he made a visit to his home state of kansas, there was no down playing questions about the scandal. >> i don't think about that stuff. i work hard. i do the right things best i can tell every day. you all talk about this noise an awful lot. you all are fixated on this. the state department, you should know, is not. >> with me now, garrett graff, author of the book k"the threat matrix." he also wrote an article this week for "wired." garrett, you briwrite in your article about how mike pompeo has stayed in president trump's good graces. now he and his department are so directly embroiled in this ukraine scandal, i wonder if the trump/pompeo bond can survive it. >> yeah, and mike pompeo has been spending this year trying to set up his political future, apparently trying to run for the senate in kansas next year with an eye toward setting himself up for a presidential run in 2024 after trump. that run has caused a little bit of tension with donald trump because trump sort

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>> mike pompeo was on the phone call and this was a huge story, a little contrast. >> mike pompeo flat out said this is about being on the actual call. adam schiff needs to be more careful but this is pretty brazen as well. with all the hysteria you see from the right about adam schiff they are completely ignoring mike pompeo was on the call and pretended not to recall it. that you get as much scrutiny from the media on the right. >> cover top officials in both parties when they live. is there a double standard as evidenced by this? >> you could put it in a textbook. a very instructive parallel, this commonplace partisan evasion. if you spent weeks hammering mike pompeo, there are great complications, the disparity in the coverage is glaring. you could put it in a textbook about the double standard. it is that bad. >> that is the accusation against the press, that there is a double standard. impeachment is a big story, 225 house democrats have come out for it. it is a huge story and the allegations are serious but there is a perception the media have been waiting for this and are pilin

cnn has confirmed that mike pompeo was on the call between president trump and ukraine president zelensky. the story was first reported by "the wall street journal." the state department has not responded to cnn's request for a comment. here's what pompeo told abc news last week about the call. >> what do you know about those conversations? >> you just gave me a report about a whistleblower complaint, none of which i've seen. pompeo has not addressed the call with the ukrainian leader or rudy giuliani's dealings with ukraine. this is what pompeo said last week at the u.n. >> to the best of my knowledge, and from what i've seen so far, each of the actions that were undertaken by state department officials was entirely appropriate and consistent with the objective we've had, certainly since this new government has come into office. >> the chairman of three house committees have subpoenaed pompeo over his failure to produce documents related to ukraine. >>> president trump's personal attorney rudy giuliani, saying he will think about responding to a house subpoena for documents in the impeac

what do you make of that evolution from mike pompeo? >> john, to be honest, i kind of feel bad for secretary pompeo who is a graduate of the united states military academy at west point which, you know, instills in graduates and the cadets and when they graduate duty on the country and just a reminder, i think, of people that are in the trump orb is not unlike the moth that flies too close to the hot candle. and this is -- of course, the two answers are going to be on highlight films now for some time to come. i would note that the question at the press conference that he had in italy, he didn't address at all whether he thought that what went on and what transpired during that phone call was appropriate or not. >> no, he dodged that question even today as he admitted the truth that he could have admitted to martha raddatz as she asked the very direct question ten days ago. what do you think he might have been trying to hide? why not say i heard the conversation? >> i don't know. i'm not a mind reader, but i think there was a, perhaps,

perhaps he did speak out and said something to mike pompeo. i don't want to put words into his mouth. we'll find out more from him tomorrow but it is clear that he is now a private citizen. he resigned. he hasn't objected to speaking out and it is interesting to see mike pompeo seemingly defend these five officials saying that they are being harassed and intimidated, we don't seem to be hearing that from someone like kurt volker who right now as we mentioned is a private citizen and is willing and wanting to testify. perhaps to protect his own reputation. >> how worried should rudy giuliani be about this kurt volker testimony, do you think? >> it seems like he's worried enough to hire a attorney just to represent him so that is something that we learned just in the last day or so. and so i think he has exposed himself in very strange ways to a lot of different potential investigative avenues, just because of the volume of his activities in ukraine and the number of times he's appeared on the media, so i think he's nervous about it. >> his expo

moments ago house democratic leaders fired back at secretary of state mike pompeo accused him of potential obstruction after pompeo claimed democrats were intimidating and bullying state department officials who the democrats plan to depose. pompeo tweeted "let me be clear. i will not tolerate such tactics and i will use all means at me deposal to intimidate dedicated professionals i am proud to lead and serve alongside the department of state." pompeo as of now, no comment about the revelation that he was in fact listening in on that july 25th phone call in which president trump asked the president of ukraine to investigate his political rival, joe biden, and biden's son hunter. this is a fast-moving story covered from the white house and all the way to ukraine. start with manu raju. what did the house democratic chairman have to say to the secretary of state? >> reporter: they pushed back rather aggressively saying any efforts to deny these witnesses from coming forward, these are current, former state department officials, the democrats wanted to depose beginning tomorrow. any efforts t

mike pompeo was on the call. the letter to john sullivan tonight, democrats say pompeo, quote, participated personally and that july 25th call. of true he is now fact witness in the impeachment inquiry. this follows on fox news confirming a few hours ago the state department inspector general will speak to capitol hill employees tomorrow afternoon. according to reports that hearing comes at the, quote, urgent request of the inspector general. all this as mike pompeo pushes back hard on democrats efforts to find out what he and his state department employees know about that now infamous ukraine call. still up for grabs whether any of the diplomats subpoenaed will show up. mike pompeo issuing a scathing letter to the committee chairman making his resistance crystal-clear. he writes i'm concerned with aspects of the committee request that can be understood only as an attempt to intimidate, bully and treat them properly the distinguished professionals of the department of state including several career fs ohs. the ch

let's welcome and thank the secretary of state, mike pompeo. [applaus [applaus [applause]. >> thanks, everybody. thank you all. [applaus [applause] >> thank you, mr. secretary for that outstanding speech and for the discussion we had and it's our sincere appreciation that you were here with us today. and thank all of you and thank the secretary for sticking to the tried and true policies to use ronald reagan's old world, peace through strength. we believed then when reagan was president and we believe now that america is strongest when our policies protect our national interests, preserve our alliances of free people, vigorously counter threats to our security and advance prosperity through economic freedom at home and abroad. now, that is an exact quote from the heritage foundation's true north principles that mrs. james spoke of yesterday. these principles guide us through the confusing thickets of politics, they allow us to answer why, when someone asked us why we do what we do. they provide guidance what it means to be a conservative, not o

that phone call between president trump and the t ide pr mike pompeo was on the call, too. and the breaking headline just in tonight. >>> the violent images coming in from hong kong this evening. for the first time, an officer firing his gun at a protester, wounding him in the chest. riot police clashing with pro-democracy demonstrators. >>> the tornado watches here at home across several states at this hour, and the record-breaking heat coming to the east tomorrow. ginger times this out. >>> searching for swimmers missing off a new york city beach tonight. >>> the frightening scene on home surveillance. a woman banging on a neighbor's door for help, a man seen dragging her away by her hair as she screams. tonight, where they found her alive. >>> alarming video this evening in new york city. a visitor climbing in the lion's den, appearing to taunt the lion. >>> hillary clinton on "gma" is asked today, what's the gutsiest thing she's ever done? and her eye-opening answer about her marriage. >>> and prince harry and duchess meghan suing a british tabloid, and tonight, the stu

let's go live to the turkish capital of ankara where mike pence and the us secretary of state, mike pompeo, are speaking to the media. in addition, the us and turkey have both mutually committed to a peaceful resolution and future for the safe zone. working on an international basis to ensure that peace and security find this border region of syria. in addition to the settle m e nt region of syria. in addition to the settlement today, with the ceasefire, turkey and the united states mutually committed to defeat isis activities in north—east syria. this will also include an agreement renewed today to coordinate efforts on detention facilities, and internally displaced persons in the formally isis controlled areas. also, turkey and the united states agree on the priority of respecting vulnerable human life, human rights, and, particularly, the protection of religious and ethnic communities in the region. i spoke to president trumpjust the region. i spoke to president trump just a few moments ago. and i know the president is very grateful for president erdogan's willingness to step forward

then mike pompeo, then rudy giuliani on october 15th. i don't know which one you should be popping more popcorn for. all of these are so fascinating. what i'm struck by is that they're getting to them quickly. this is so different than the mueller report. like she just -- she was recalled, and then the special envoy just resigned and they're already calling them within days. >> absolutely. it's part of the effort to get ahead of what the white house has been doing on other probes which is stalling for as long as possible, trying to get these things locked up in the courts and trying to frustrate the narrative that democrats might be able to put together about any kind of wrongdoing. it is also critical for some of these officials who will be the building blocks of a broader case about who knew what when, and particularly how high in the trump administration. i'm particularly interested in what kurt volker had to say. he is a key person in all of this. he played a middle man role between giuliani and the ukrainians. what did he know about

mike pompeo is a great example of the perils of meteor meteori. he's done that largely unzaited until reasonably. he has a fierce loyalty to the president. after he reluctantly admitted he was on the call he then very quickly translated to say that the call was all about digging into corruption. so that's the first reason. the second reason is he has been able to dodge, kind of stay out of the spotlight and dodge bulle bullets. and until recently that's worked. you know, i think now he's kind of lost control of the narrative. he's going to be under a lot of scrutiny as this plays out. susan, i have some things to read for you. bill taylor texts, as i said on the phone, i think it's crazy to ask for help. then gordon soundland texts back hours later. bill, i believe what he writes -- bill, i believe you are incorrect about president trump's intentions. he is trying to evaluate whether they have during the end of the campaign. i suggest we stop the back and forth. i recommend you give lisa kenn a call. who is lisa kenna? she works at the state depar

talking about your piece on mike pompeo. you wrote a piece for "wired." headlines, pompeo was riding high until the ukraine mess just exploded. let me play some of the tense moments when secretary pompeo went back to his home state of kansas this week and dodged questions about ukraine and this whole impeachment inquiry. live to this. >> you were in warsaw and so is rudy giuliani. during your time there did you meet with giuliani? >> you know, i don't talk about who i meet with. >> text messages show that dill mats under your authority told the ukrainians a good relationship with president trump was only possibly if they investigated his political opponent and theories about what happened in 2016. were you aware that this was happening? >> again, you've got your facts wrong. sounds like you're working at least in part for the democratic national committee when you phrase that predicate of a question that way. >> testimony from respected diplomats. is that damaged your image? and your leadership in the agency? >> i don't think about that stuff. you all tal

mike is leaving, mike pompeo will be meeting also. who is here right now with us and he will be joining the meeting. we have a lot of great people over there we'll see. in the meantime our soldiers are not in harm's way as they shouldn't be as two countries fight over land that has nothing to do with us. and the kurds are much safer right now but the kurds know how to fight and as i said they aren't angels. they aren't angels if you take a look. you have to go back and take a look. they fought with us and we paid a lot of money for them to fight with us and that's okay. they did well when they fought with us. they didn't do so well when they didn't fight with us. when i refused to allow the americans a year and a half ago to fight with the kurds against iraqi said wait a minute, this country stupidly spent a fortune on fighting war with around iraq. nobody knows how they spent it. we're in the middle east now for 8 billion dollars if you can believe that stupidity. in iraq we're in for 5 1/2 trillion. they said we spent 5 1/2 trillion

mike pompeo has thrown back much the same accusation. in a tweet he's written: "i'm concerned with aspects of the committee's request that can be understood only as an attempt to intimidate, bully, & treat improperly the distinguished professionals of the department of state." live to our north american correspondent peter bowes. what is the strength of all of this? how significant western mark this could just be a hiccup in the road. there is a difference of opinion between mike pompeo, the state department officials and those congressional democrats who want those five officials to give evidence. and we have heard that mike pompeo sees this as intimidation and bullying but for their part, the democrats also see it as their part, the democrats also see itasa their part, the democrats also see it as a sense of intimidation. they believe it is, in a sense, breaking the law by refusing to appear. mike pompeo will say it was a voluntary request to appear. they did not receive a subpoena to appear. so behind—the—scenes they will be discu

estos comentarios vienen aquÍ en una disputa que hay entre el secretario de estado, mike pompeo, y los legisladores. es que legisladores demÓcratas que estÁn investigando esto dicen que pompeyo estÁ tratando de prohibir que cinco funcionarios del departamento de estado testifiquen para que ellos puedan cumplir con su investigaciÓn. a propÓsito de eso, pompeo hoy dÍa en italia por primera vez confirmÓ que Él estaba en esa llamada. es la primera vez que lo confirma ante las cÁmaras. esto nunca habÍa pasado. pues, esto ocurre despuÉs de que legisladores dijeron exactamente lo mismo, que Él estaba presente en esta llamada entre el presidente trump y tambiÉn el lÍder de ucrania, que ha generado toda esta controversia. detrÁs mÍo, precisamente, en una reuniÓn muy importante, una reuniÓn en estos momentos en un lugar secreto y es con el inspector general del departamento de estado. Él ha pedido una reuniÓn urgente a los legisladores y es que se trata, no se sabe exactamente cuÁl es la razÓn. lo Único que se sabe es que estÁ relacionado a documentos y a ucrania. es todo

here's nbc's peter alexander. >> reporter: mike pompeo tonight ignoring questions in italy. >> do you have any comment on reports you're on the july 25th call with president zelensky >> reporter: the secretary of state now caught up in the impeachment firestorm, with new revelations he was on that july call where president trump asked the ukrainian president to investigate joe biden and his son. just last week, pompeo deflected when pressed what he knew about that conversation. >> so you just gave me a report about -- none of which i've seen. >> reporter: pompeo today trading accusations with house democrats, who subpoenaed him for documents, accusing them of trying to bully five current and former state department officials called to testify. pompeo vowing to prevent or expose any attempts to intimidate democratic lawmakers later warning his actions could serve as evidence of obstruction. another member of the president's inner circle under growing scrutiny, personal lawyer rudy giuliani, now hiring his own lawyer after house democrats demanded that he turn over text messages and pho

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