ukraine should be recognized. i don't think anyone is questioning ukraine's independence except for mr. putin, perhaps and people around him. a foreign policy success at ukraine's expense would not be a foreign policy success. i think the blowback from the congress, from the think tank, university community, everywhere , would be so severe that if the president tried to push some resolution that came at ukraine's expense -- i think that in order for it to be labeled a success, it cannot come at ukraine's expense. on crimea, turkey could make some claims on crimea since until mid- 18 century. in 54, it was given to the ukrainians. socialist republic. acknowledgment of agreement of that. ninety-four and 97 with the russia ukraine friendship treaty it is only mr. putin and those like him that want to eat erase all of that and claim that crimea actually belongs to russia. if we allow that to happen, then we are losing. in my view, the international community should never recognize crimea as part of russia. we never re

western oriented ukraine and those who i wouldn't call it a pro russian ukraine i would say a truly independent ukraine having an autonomous its own vision of its own foreign policy and you know me just right there is we have to get away from this false 'd dichotomy. but these a pro western forces have a very tenuous relationship with the. because it's all about what is the west doing for ukraine which is at the forefront at the the ball work of an anti russian. and anti russian policy to the extent that the west and i think it's clear is not going to support that kind of long term anti what the russian initiative these forces in western ukraine are going to be disillusioned with the west and one already sees this in. the statements of current members of parliament for example that maybe we should rename the party servant of the people which is their party into servant of the i.m.f. because the i.m.f. really has us by the throat and is never going to let go and this is just one example of the of the true attitude of the west toward the would be but you know we would have predict we predicted th

military aid to ukraine. from the johns hopkins school of international study, this is an hour and 15 minutes. >> i'd like to welcome everybody to the russia-you're asia seminar. we do it every two weeks, as you know, and given the speaker that we have and the topic is going to deal with. we have the pleasure of welcoming c-span here which is broadcasting this event as far as i can tell live on c-span2. i'm charles gotti. i organize these seminars and i say very little because i want the speaker to have as much time as possible. just to give you a little background. he hails from massachusetts and the soviet studies at harvard, before that, he got his va also in soviet studies and political science from tufts university. at harvard he studied with the legendary adam olamb and in tufts with solitary and old friend of mine, indeed. >> he left washington after, ana professor at -- in florida, at -- at florida international university, and that's a move that is shrouded in mystery, because few people do that, but

ukraine ukraine what partisan hacks in biased media won't tell you is why ukraine has become part of america's political drama you'll only hear it here on crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor at innocent me internet media project and in london we crossed alexander material he is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate alexander let me go to you in london i'm so pleased to have you in on the program here just the 2 of you because it gives you more time to talk about a story that is much more complex and longer than audiences in the west are being given by the mainstream media everyone is talking about the 2016 election well i would go a little bit further back and the very least i go back to 2014 with the illegal overthrow of a democratically elected government with the support of the e.u. and the united states now the predicate of all of this the larger the

in ukraine gate. and we're going to be a mother we had great people paul martin for good point you know when we crossed arad scandalous articles about him in the washington post by and have a warm where are the us basically they all forgot to mention that he didn't do anything in russia he did everything in ukraine and go to the d n c and he was i'm sorrier at least he walked on his specialty he was a political consultant he got millions for that but the biden's work millions for something he didn't understand the action in because of his father's name but he was his father son he didn't understand anything in their straight or in energy where did you come to buy them get education in energy star gets you know so the more stories of what i'm going to run into and break from and understand. knew a lot about pharmaceuticals you know what i mean we're going to go to a short break here and after a short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with our team. yes. that's kalash too long

more clashes in ukraine's capital kiev. there is absolutely no you shall start to go with your heart caricature everybody. now on the brink of a civil war at least 70 dead so far and the death toll rising it you can allude you . a new music. hall we saw here today was a revolution. to. get invested over $5000000000.00 to assist ukraine in knees and. nato has expanded into 13 countries up to the borders of russia 13 countries. focus . on not allowing buy into hot wall between ukraine and russia. that the. city would. the the the low the to. elude . police. are little. plug 11 . ukraine. it's an ancient and proud land. with a rich history filled with much beauty heroism and sacrifice. ukraine is a border land. a place where east meets west. this is the flag of ukraine the blue represents the sky the gold its seemingly endless fields of wheat. ukraine is a prize many have sought. and much blood spilled in the quest to possess it. ukraine has been the pathway for western powers as they attempted to conquer the east. in world wa

into hot for between ukraine and russia. ukraine. it's an ancient and proud land. with a rich history filled with much beauty heroism and sacrifice. ukraine is a border land. a place where east meets west. this is the flag of ukraine the blue represents the sky the gold it's seemingly endless fields of wheat. ukraine is a prize many have sought. and much blood spilled in the quest to possess it. ukraine has been the pathway for western powers as they attempted to conquer the east. in world war one. and world war 2. and every time the ukrainian people ended up paying the highest price for these grand games of power. history doesn't repeat but it surely rhymes said mark twain. if one looks closely at the history of ukraine one will notice many rhymes. being surrounded by stronger powers ukraine has needed a lot of cunning to survive and the art they truly mastered with time is the art of changing sides. in the middle of the 17th century ukrainian leader. broke a truce agreement made with poland siding more powerful russia. just over 50 years later as the russian swed

ukraine ukraine what partisan hacks in biased media won't tell you is why ukraine has become part of america's political drama you'll only hear it here on crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest to me he's a political analyst and editor at innocent me internet media project and in london we crossed alexander material he is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate alexander let me go to you in london i'm so pleased to have you india on the program here just the 2 of you because it gives you more time to talk about a story that is much more complex and longer than audiences in the west are being given by the mainstream media everyone is talking about the 2016 election well i would go a little bit further back and the very least i'd go back to 2014 with the illegal overthrow of a democratically elected government with the support of the e.u. and the united states now the predicate of all of this the larger the bigge

>> look at ukraine. part of the ukraine probe. these guys were all maneuvering to get control of the biggest gas company in ukraine. >> money is always the answer. >> it's always the answer. it's getting hard to get people to stay is in line. telling the truth. thank you for joining me. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now with ari melber in for rachel. >>> thank you for joining us this hour. rachel is off. will be back tomorrow. i'm ari melber. we have a lot for you on this very busy evening in the impeachment probe on capitol hill. it was exactly three weeks ago today that nancy pelosi announced congress was moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. sparked by the revelation that president trump had pressured a foreign government to gin up dirt on one of his political rivals. and would go on to admit it. today lawmakers returned to capitol hill from a two-week recess during which most of them went back to their districts and began to hear what their

special envoy to ukraine. now he is the former special envoy because last friday he abruptly resigned after he was named in the whistle-blower complaint that has given rise to this impeachment investigation. and really, even with the seemingly nonstop flow of breaking news about this whole impeachment scandal, there is a ton we don't know. it is unclear whether u.s. special envoy kurt volker may have been part of this scheme to pressure the ukrainian government. he showed up meeting with the ukrainian government right after president trump pressured them in a phone call to hand over dirt on biden as a condition of getting military aid. was volker part of this scheme, part of enacting that pressure campaign by president trump? or was he not part of this scheme but rather an important witness to it who might be able to shed light on what was done wrong? we may be about to get some answers. the house of representatives as part of their impeachment inquiry announced they'll be deposing five key state department of

ukraine and russia wants to get rid of these fees and the dependency on ukraine and therefore is building these new pipelines around ukraine terex stream in the south and north stream in the north. thank you very much. google's parent company alphabet said its quarterly profits fell 23 percent to $7000000000.00 mistake market expectations alphabets as profits were hampered by rising research and development costs the company is trying to maintain growth while investing in a variety of new gadgets and services revenue growth from advertising is also down . its leaders says the city is ad risk of falling into recession as it enters its 5th month of pro-democracy protests tourists numbers have plummeted to carry land said and that retail businesses hurt as they have been forced to shutter their doors during protests and rallies. after 5 months of pro-democracy protests some people in hong kong are tired of the demonstrations and blocked roads the city state's divided community is on edge many were looking to carry lamb speech and choose day to see whether she would yield to the protesters de

ambassador to ukraine. if nothing else, her testimony today appears from the outside to have been thorough. she emerged from that closed door deposition after nine plus hours. she didn't get out until 7:40 eastern time. joining us now is tom melinowski. he was assistant secretary of state in both the state department and national security council. thank you for making time tonight. i know it's been a long day. >> thank you so much. >> i was struck by the congressman said there about how it was eight hours that went like a new york second that he seemed -- he seemed moved by the testimony. how would you describe the testimony today? >> i agree. you know, we spent nine hours with a diplomat, a patriot of tremendous courage and integrity who answered questions honestly, thoroughly and who set an example today that not only should you obey a legally binding subpoena, but you can. you can be a career civil servant or foreign service officer and despite the president's efforts to deny you the opportunity to compe

here for example as ukraine's national and t. corruption bureau chief sit nick recorded bragging about how he helped hillary clinton during the 2016 election yes a little more yes i helped him not trump but hillary hillary belongs to the cohort of politicians who comprise the hegemony in the us both in the us and in the entire world for us it is sort of better. oh you could definitely film sensitive 3 with these guys but the audio is real confirmed by ukraine's attorney general it was mr sit nick by the way who published dirt on trump's campaign manager in 2016 in a real lost anyway but the fellow tried so what if you don't have guns to sell or elections to win what if for example daddy ma. to get his young boy a nice cushy job where he didn't have to do much well ukraine's the help booth john biden's son and john kerry's stepson landed executive jobs at the ukrainian energy company now strap yourself in hunter biden earned $50000.00 a month 50000 in a country where the average wage is a few $100.00 and you know what in the weird

supported ukraine. he denied them a white house visit until he could promise he could get what he wanted. why is that dangerous? what can you tell the american people about why it's important for us to support ukraine? >> first of all, look what he did. he, obviously, used taxpayer funded assistance, passed by the congress on a bipartisan basis, to both threaten an intimidate the new president of ukraine, to investigate his political opponents for the purpose of advancing his own re-election. now, that has so many elements in it and it's one of the reasons why i think it's broken through to the american people. it also is troubling that ukraine has been a subject of constant pressure from vladimir putin and the russian interests in ukraine. so you have the trump administration, the president, the vice president, others actually pressuring a new president who has a part of his country invaded and occupied by russian troops, and putting this poor new president in this vice. you think you are going to get

there is a current ambassador to the ukraine, former ambassador to the ukraine, special envoy to ukraine, there is gordon sondland who is not your typical ambassador and he is the ambassador to the eu involved with president trump. the white house has obviously given a lot of thought to whether or not gordon sondland was going to testify and made a late breaking decision. they didn't say no initially, they said no this morning. what are we supposed to make of this? >> yeah, i mean it was a late breaking decision. sondland had flown to washington from brussels in order to testify. his lawyer put out a statement today saying he is very disappointed he doesn't get to do it. but what we can conclude right now from the white house's decision is that they are making a calculation that we don't know what the out come is, that the house going for an obstruction charge, another arm of impeachment of -- article of prooechlt charg proo on obstruction, they think that is a better calculation. we don't know how that will play out and if there really be another charge of obstruction for impeachment. b

to ukraine. it's not at all clear why this state department needed an envoy to ukraine when we already had an ambassador to ukraine. but it seems one of kurt volcker's missions was to translate trump to the new ukrainian president. that means kurt volcker was in frequent contact with bill taylor, who became in effect the acting ambassador in ukraine after donald trump removed an ambassador who rudy giuliani did not find to be cooperative enough in his ukraine schemes that were designed to force ukraine to help the trump campaign by investigating joe biden. "the new york times" reports this smoking gun in kurt volcker's under oath testimony today. he disclosed a set of texts in september in which bill taylor, the top american diplomat in ukraine, alluded to mr. trump's decision earlier in the summer to freeze a military aid package to the country. he told mr. sondland and mr. volcker, i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. that is a very smoky gun, i

but it wasn't quite so simple for ukraine the truth is ukraine has never been a united country. when world war 2 broke out a large part of western ukraine's population welcomed the german soldiers as liberators from the recently forced upon them soviet rule and openly collaborated with the germans. the real scale of collaboration was not announced for many years after the war but we now know that whole divisions and battalions were formed by ukrainian collaborators such as s.s. c. and not to call and roll into battalions. just in the beginning of the war more than $80000.00 people from college cina region voluntarily enrolled into division s.s. galad seen in a month and a half notorious for their extreme cruelty towards the polish jewish and russian people on the territory of ukraine. members of these military groups came mostly from the organization of ukrainian nationalists b.-o. un founded in 1929 this organization had an ultimate goal of creating an ethnically pure independent ukraine and considered terror an acceptable tool for achieving their ends their official flag was b

an exchange with ukraine. ambassador taylor telling congress that multiple senior administration officials informed him that the president personally blocked military aid to ukraine and refused to meet with that country's new president unless ukraine agreed to investigate joe biden and the 2016 u.s. election. >> that is big. we will lay it all out for you this morning. meantime, cnn has learned that members of the president's inner circle are urging him to accept the fact that they believe impeachment is coming and that it's now time they say to focus on attacking democrats and on the whole impeachment process itself. all of this is two more top u.s. officials are expected to testify this morning on capitol hill. so let's begin there. let's go to manu raju who joins us on the hill. let's talk about bill taylor's testimony. your reporting this morning is that there were audible sighs and gasps as taylor read that opening statement. >> yeah, and in one specific passage in particular, one in which the -- for the

policy towards ukraine since ukraine's independent from the soviet union has been fairly consistent in pushing ukraine on anticorruption reform. that's been one of the corner stones of u.s. messaging in ukraine for decades, and that's been fairly consistent, both under barack obama and under president trump, and you know, under the obama administration this was very much carried by his ambassadors to ukraine who have long played a strong role in kiev in working with politicians there to try and convey the message of, look, you need to clean up corruption. >> what was then vice president joe biden's role? >> so joe biden was obama's point person in ukraine, and he really carried that message for the president. he also oversaw the u.s. response -- perhaps not the u.s. response but the u.s. messaging when it came to conflict in ukraine, the russian annexation of crimea, it was 2014 where you had russia lops off a chunk of ukraine, annexes crimea and then the war begins in eastern ukraine in the spring of that year. it was the first hot war in the region in an extremely long time, and you

trump's dealings with ukraine. he resigned the day after rudy giuliani shared texting appearing to show volker as a liaison between he and the administration of ukraine. what do you believe he will say to lawmakers this morning? >> well, he is a career service officer. i believe ambassador volker will say this is what happened, will he answer the questions truthfully and honestly and he will probably describe what he was trying to do in terms of working with ukraine, both to help to find a solution to the conflict in eastern ukraine. we would like to see that conflict ended and the russians and russian proxy forces out of eastern ukraine and will talk probably, depending on the questions, about the interaction of mr. giuliani with ukraine has affected his work. >> and if, let's say, the president of ukraine wanted ambassador volker to act as a liaison between ukrainian officials and rudy giuliani, who they believed to be a proxy for president trump, had aer arrangement, who would ambassador volker have gone to with

christopher anderson served as the ukraine expert advising former special envoy to ukraine kirk volker. christopher anderson was followed in that job by catherine croft. christopher anderson, according to his opening statement, told house investigators that rudy giuliani prevented the trump administration from strengthening cooperation with ukraine. christopher anderson described a meeting he had with john bolton on the topic of having senior white house officials engage more with ukraine. john bolton identified an obstacle to better engagement with ukraine. he cautioned that mr. giuliani was a key voice with the president on ukraine which could be an obstacle to increased white house engagement. according to catherine croft's opening statement she first learned of the trump white house's plan to hold up ukrainian -- military assistance to ukraine during a july 18th office of budget and management meeting and she listened in by videoconference. an omb official told the group that white house chief of staff mick mulvaney has placed what she called an informal hold on the aid to ukraine.

love for ukraine. lovely as they are, right? there isn't some terrifically spiritual bond between our countries that supersedes the bonds we have with other countries the only reason we've been supporting them is because they were freaking invaded by russia, right, which is a very unusual thing. up until now on a bipartisan basis, we, the yierkts helped support that country because they were invaded by russia and russia is occupying part of them. we have been helping them keep their country intact while russia is trying to take it. so to the extent we are now no longer supporting ukraine or we are making our support for them contingent on these political favors for president trump for his re-election campaign, it's a radical change in a short period of time in terms of what the u.s. is doing and what are when a our attitude is toward that world-changing event from 2014. and i think now it's becoming clear why or at least it's becoming clear how this all fits together. the "new york times" this weekend

aid money from ukraine. that career state department official wrote and you've got to quote this, i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. so you can't get more clear than that. this is according to multiple reports this evening. and the text came in early september and the reason i want to emphasize that date and that means that text was sent before the news broke that there was even a whistle-blower. trump's diplomat believed that the president of the united states was withholding security assistance for help on his re-election campaign. trump has denied time and time again that there was a quid pro quo. >> there was no quid pro quo at all. there was no quid pro quo. >> if you take a look at that call. it was perfect. i didn't do it. there was no quid pro quo. >> the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine obviously believed otherwise, and of course, the transcript of the president's own phone call asks him asking for a, quote, favor from the ukraine president when the pr

so i got ukraine. and i remember going over, convincing our team, others to convince that we should be providing for loan guarantees. i went over i guess the 12, 13th time to kiev and i was supposed to announce that there's another $1 billion loan guarantee. i had gotten a commitment from porshenchingo and from yatsen that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't. so they said they were walking out and said, i'm not going to -- we're not going to give you the billion dollars. they said you have no authority. you're not the president. the president said. i said call him. i said i'm telling you you're not getting the $1 billion. i'm going to be leaving here, i think it was six hours, i'm leaving in six hours. if the prosecutor is not fired you're not getting the money. well, son of a --, he got fired. and they put in place someone who was solid. at the time. well, still so they made some genuine substantial changes institutionly and with people. but one of the three institutio

government's support of ukraine. i realized if ukraine pursue an investigation into the bidens and burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play, which would undoubtedly result in ukraine losing the bipartisan support it thus far maintained. >> right. >> wow. >> they'll say, yeah, that didn't happen, though. i get his concern. good for him. we respect his sense of duty. but when he says ukraine delivering specific investigations in order to secure the meeting with the president. >> mm-hmm. >> that will set up like a quid pro quo if, if you believe that the investigations he asked for. >> mm-hmm. >> were asked for to benefit the president politically. and they're going to argue no. >> yeah. >> so he will not move the needle on that, mr. vindman, nor should he be expected to. the lieutenant colonel is about establishing the facts, what they mean, what is the consequence. i just had one of the best minds in the party on. this guy, dan crenshaw, if he wants to, is going to be a big party player for the repub

involving ukraine so here's what i want to do tonight. i want to walk through everything you know about the ukraine, and i want to walk through everything you know about the bidens in china. so the american people to who watch this program is because they're not getting any of this in any of the cable networks. where you're basically being prevented from explaining what took place. then if i want to talk about what to me is nonsensible about the the president of the united states, thede transcript, and al of the rest of that. solet walklk through it. let's had, begin with bidens in ukraine from the top. >> hunter biden is son still alive he lost beau biden tragically and up until his father became vice president, he was basically a lobbyist in washington, d.c. working for the online gambling industry. so no background overseas, and inng any of these areas once his father started vice president he started a private firm called sin ka partners half of the capital provided by chris hines john kerry stepson and another business partner was br

many in southern ukraine had been viewing the revolution with concern. and an anti mind on movement formed in the city of odessa in early january 2014 the protesters set up their camp in front of the trade union house a building which would soon become a monument to a massacre of its own it's difficult to overestimate the importance of odessa it is strategically located on the black sea and it's ukraine's largest seaport it's not surprising that ukraine's new authorities were watching the situation unfolding there with growing alarm. more and more of odessa as people were joining the anti my don movement at the same time as events in eastern ukraine were heating up. the new ukrainian government didn't have the power to wage war on too many fronts if odessa were to join the growing uprising in the eastern regions it would seriously complicate the situation. this rebellion had to be extinguished immediately and at any cost and that cost was high. on may 2nd 2014 soccer fans flocked to the center of odessa city for the ukrainian championship match surprisin

we're focussed on the ukraine act. we have a confession on the ukraine act. we're just talking to other officials who were clearly involved. this should be used to show that the president has this motive. it's his mo to leverage u.s. resources and u.s. policy to help himself in a president election. and he is going to be held accountable. >> congressman, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >>> conversation with the congressman held shortly before the program tonight. breaking news text messages between u.s. diplomats and ukrainians leased by house democrats tonight. on a day one big story after another. we'll dig into it next. ♪upbeat music everything was so fresh in the beginning. [sniff] ♪ dramatic music but that plug quickly faded. ♪upbeat music luckily there's febreze plug. it cleans away odors and freshens for 1200 hours. [deep inhale] breathe happy with febreze plug. i was on the fence about changing from a manual to an electric toothbrush. but my hygienist said going electric could lead to way cleaner teeth. she said, get the one inspired by denti

now it's ukraine, ukraine, ukraine. let's take a look. >> the president called on the russians to help in this campaign by hacking and hillary's emails. >> we are using this as leverage to obtain dirt. another country many factor dirt on his opponent. >> we believe the president of united states engaged in a cover-up. >> i think that there is evidence of a cover-up. >> the campaign accepted help. the russians gave help and the president made full use of that help. >> i do not think we can rely on a country beholden on the good graces of donald trump to be able to level with us on this. >> no one is above the law, especially the president of the united states. the president believes that he is above the law. the law being the constitution of the united states. >> there is already in my view ample evidence in the public domain on the issue of collusion if you are willing to see it. >> it is very powerful evidence of that kind of potential impeachable offense. >> sean: do you see a pattern? it would almost be funny if they

delayed money to ukraine. including whether ukraine was holding a dnc server from the 2016 election. one of the president's debunked conspiracy theories. >> the money held up had nothing to do with biden. >> reporter: allegations of a quid pro quo started after trump's july 25th phone call with the ukrainian president. and they're at the heart of democrats' impeachment inquiry. something president trump has denied for weeks. >> there was no quid pro quo. and there was never any quid pro quo. >> reporter: thursday's briefing leaving the president fuming, one source tells cnn. trump's personal legal team and the white house counsel's office expressed concerns. the acting chief of staff walking back his comments just hours later. writing, quote, let me be clear, there was absolutely no quid pro quo. the president never told me to withhold any money. still, democrats not convinced. >> mr. mulvaney's acknowledgment means things have gone from very bad to much worse. >> this is hardly an agatha christie novel at thi

we stood strong with ukraine. we are standing strong with president zelensky. as the american people would expect, president trump wanted to make sure that ukraine was advancing the reform agenda, reforming and ending corruption. that our allies in europe were doing more. >> [indiscernible] -- the bidens was at least a part of the reason the aid was held up? >> i have never discussed the issue of the bidens with president zelensky. what i can tell you is that all of our discussions internally, when the president and my office with ukraine were focused on the broader issues of european support. >> you are interested in seeing the bidens investigated? [inaudible] >> that is your question. let me be very clear. the issue of aid and our efforts with regard to ukraine were from my experience in no way connected to the very legitimate concern the american people have about corruption that took place, about things that happened in the 2016 election or about the issue that former vice president biden had his son on the board of a major energy company in ukraine at a ti

rightesident of ukraine, now, said no pressure. the president of ukraine and his foreign minister said, again, no blackmail, they don't even know what you people are talking about. hoax and ax, it's a continuation of the russian witchhunt, which turned out to be phony. phony, and deal was now they have to -- and all it is is very simple. it is one conversation that i had with the president of ukraine that was perfect. defraudedschiff everybody and he made up the conversation. >> are you concerned about the growing criminal investigation into rudy giuliani? president trump: i don't think so, because i think rudy is a great gentleman. he has been a great crimefighter. he looks for corruption wherever he goes. everyone understands ukraine has big problems in that regard. rudy giuliani is a fine man. he was the greatest mayor in the history of new york and has been one of the greatest crimefighters and corruption fighters. rudy giuliani is a good man. do you want to see your justice department still investigate biden? president trump:

they were his contacts in ukraine. they paid him through this shell company, fraud guarantee, might want to rethink that name, but rudy needs to pea concerned. especially if one of these guys flips. if one of them flip, then look out. >> thank you so muff. julie, michael, thanks so much. >>> coming up for us, sounding the alarm. a new report reveals it wasn't just the whistleblower that raised concerns about the president's dealings with ukraine. why other national security officials were troubled as well and what they did about it. >>> thousands of residents are being ordered to evacuate right now as firefighters are struggling to contain a really fast moving wildfire in southern california. we're going to take you there for the very latest. it's rukmini here from the new york times . hey, you see this? oh, wow. you two are going to have such a great trip. thanks to you, we will. this is why voya helps reach today's goals... ...all while helping you to and through retirement. can you help with these? we're more of the

the president of ukraine just said there's no pressure whatsoever. that we had a perfect conversation. then on top of that are less important frankly, on top of that we have a transcript of the conversation fortunately that's perfect for quite think it is very unfair every time the country thinks they have a conversation with the president of the united states it will be all over the world. i think that is very unfair. but in the case of what we're talking about, we released a perfect conversation the president of ukraine just confirmed that and that should be case over. but adam schiff took that conversation before he saw it and fabricated the conversation. to me that his criminal. >> [inaudible] >> i just don't think running a country that you can have all of these people testify about every conversation you have had and in this case we have a transcript. almost immediately for transparent. nobody has been more transparent than me. and in this case you also have the president of ukraine saying absolutely it was a perfect conversation. the democrats

earliest red flags in the trump ukraine scandal. speaking today of her firing, you vyovanovitch said quote thee would be a concerted campaign against me. she denied multiple unsubstantiated allegations that have been leveled against her calling them fictitious and she said she was, quote, incredulous that the u.s. government chose to remove an ambassador based as best i can tell on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives. her scathing rebuke of those who targeted her comes as we learn the scope of the lobbying campaign that rudy giuliani waged to get her fired, an effort he mounted with his two business associates, lev parnas and igor fruman, both of which were arrested this week. quote, he believed yovanovitch had been an obstacle to investigate mr. biden. that said yovanovitch told congress, quote, i do not know mr. giuliani's motives for attacking me but she warned of a, quote, unfortunate alliance between ukrainians who continue to operate within a corrupt system and americans who either did not un

william taylor is an expert on ukraine. he served as george w. bush's ambassador to ukraine. and after donald trump forced out marie yovanovitch as ambassador, william taylor is serving as acting ambassador to cr ukraine. he testified for ten hours today under oath about what rudy giuliani and donald trump have been doing with ukraine, yes, william taylor delivered testimony devastating to president trump. one freshman member of the committee hearing his testimony today said after the first couple hours of william taylor's testimony that it was, quote, my most disturbing day in congress so far. that congressman will join us in a moment. william taylor's testimony could make the impeachment of donald trump bipartisan. his testimony could turn some republican votes in the house of representatives and it might be the testimony that convinces republican senator mitt romney to vote to convict and remove donald trumphro and totally incompetent and unqualified ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland, could face perjury charges after william taylor's testimony today. we wil

and the president of ukraine, our u.s. ambassador to the e.u., a trump donor and appointee writes, i think potus really wants the deliverable, noting that a meeting without some sort of concession from ukraine would be unlikely. that meeting did not take place. the acting u.s. ambassador to ukraine bill taylor, career diplomat, raised his concerns about that to sondland. he questioned the reasons for the aid. he asked, are we now saying that security assistance and white house meeting are conditioned on investigations? for more, we welcome to the broadcast p.j. crowley serving as stand secretary for public affairs and spokesman there under then secretary of state hillary clinton, also happens to be the author of "red line." thank you ever so much for coming. on you know the phrase, if you see something, say something. have you been on that trip, would you have said something? >> of course. what we have here is among other things a process failure. you talk about the process to peter at the beginning of the show. national s

trump was up to in ukraine. they represented that bipartisan policy and it's not a surprise to me that they're the first people who are going to testify in front of that impeachment inquiry. the last thing, rachel that's really important is the republicans used to be more hawkish about this. the criticism we got in the obama administration from people like lindsey graham was we weren't doing enough to support ukraine. now republicans have done a 180, saying there's nothing wrong with this call transcript. it's a window into the cynicism of the republican party. how much they flipped on this issue just to protect trump. >> and ben, as we go forward and head into these next couple of days with mike pompeo essentially threatening that he's going to try to block those officials you were just describing from speaking to congress, we don't exactly know how this is going to go with these depositions and when they're going to happen and who exactly is going to show up and how much the state department is going to do to

all of a sudden, ukraine. we go from russia to ukraine. how did that happen? the democrats, nancy pelosi and six committee chairman, i call them her pullet bureau are running rough shod trying to, issuing letters they call subpoenas if they were not replied to in a certain given time, they claim that to be obstruction of justice, it is not a court. they mean obstruction of the house. they are trying to set up the president and set up the administration, the demands are onerous. the process, you see, is ahistorical. and president's counsel wrote a letter to the members of the house, they said, you deny the president the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witness to receive transcript of testimony to have access to evidence. to have counsel is present, in other words basic due process, even though this is not a criminal matter, cereal murdersl murder -- serial murderers get more due process, terrorists get more due process than president of united states coequal subpoena power, i did some research. and i found something, look at this. what in the world is

about ukraine, leaving mr. trump to believe ukraine was full of, quote, terrible people who tried to, quote, take him down, in the 2016 election. >>> the white house scandal over ukraine exploded his week with president trump publicly stating that china should investigate joe biden, his democratic rival. and it was a surreal moment in u.s. history. >> it's a safe bet that political leaders in china and ukraine were caught off guard by mr. trump's statements. ukraine did announce, that it would audit it would review some of the past investigations, but that is a far cry from digging up dirt on biden and his son. sam kiley is following the story for us. sam is in ukraine, the capital city of kiev. we now know that ukraine will audit its cases overseen by its predecessors. is that bowing to pressure as critics are seeing this? and what's the view in that country? >> reporter: well, the view in ukraine, and very much the view of the prosecutor general this is not the result of american pressure, but as a result of