he said, "are you coming to durham?" and i'm still trying to wrap my head around, you fell, unconscious, revive.miyi i said yes, i'm coming. >> reporter: sharon and her two other children lived in charlotte, almost a three-hour drive from durham. >> on my way there i did call jermeir. >> reporter: that was jermeir stroud, denita's fiance, a police officer who worked in greensboro, much closer to durham. >> and i said, "jermeir, i need you to get to durham now. denita has fell.du she's unconscious. they're trying to revive her." so he said okay. because i knew from greensboro to durham he would be there before i would. >> could you tell whether he had any idea of this? >> he didn't let on like he was aware. >> reporter: word spread fast that something had happened at the apartment complex. edythe called to check on denita. >> and she wasn't answering. which was you know, after i call your phone several times as a best friend, you know, somebody's going to call you back. so i was like, that's strange. so my instinct just s

he said, "are you coming to durham?" " and i'm still trying to wrap my head around, you fell, unconscious, revive.un i said, yes, i'm coming. >> reporter: sharon and her two other children lived in te charlotte, almost a three-hour drive from durham. >> on my way there i did call jermeir. >> reporter: that was jermeir stroud, denita's fiance, a police officer who worked in greensboro, much closer to durham. >> and i said, "jermeir, i need you to get to durham now. denita has fell. she's unconscious. they're trying to revive her."co so he said okay.tr because i knew from greensboro to durham he would be there before i would. >> could you tell whether he had any idea of this? >> he didn't let on like he was aware. >> reporter: word spread fast that something had happened at the apartment complex. edythe called to check on denita. >> and she wasn't answering. which was you know, after i call your phone several times as a best friend, you know, somebody's going to call you back. so i was like, that's strange. so my instinct

john durham, the u.s. attorney in connecticut, is conducting a criminal probe into the nexus of that investigation and the results may be quite telling. >> i do not get involved with it, that's up to them. and by the way, i feel out to get involved with it if i want to, but i chose not to. it's up to bill barr. >> but attorney general told fox news just last week he staying away from investigation leaving sole responsibility to durham. >> i understand he's making great progress. as you know he's a 35 year veteran of the department. great reputation for nonpartisanship. >> the investigation began last spring as an administrator's review. over the summer, new evidence still under lock and key came into play and now the probe is criminal. durham can now subpoena witnesses and impanel a grand jury. despite him saying he's not involved, bill barr did traveled with durham to italy to introduce them to italian officials who could help with information. fox news has also learned introduced durham to officials from

we can find out then why the durham probe is criminal. shannon: praise from both of the are, the spotlight on the report, who could become up in this expanding probe. ethan bearman and greg jarrett, the author of witchhunt. great to have you both with us. from the "national review," if he comes back with an indictment he's likely to sustain a conviction but if he chooses not to press charges it probably means no prosecutor could sustain a conviction based on available evidence. sounds like folks think he is a great tutor down the middle. >> he totally is and even democrats recognize that. now that it has turned into a criminal investigation that suggests to me as a lawyer he has probably found some persuasive evidence of lawlessness and corrupt acts directly related to the inspector general's report which surely durham has by now and we will find out all four of the fisa warrants were illegally obtained so the people who signed off on that, people who prepared it, may have deceived the judges, concealed vital evidence, maybe perpetrated a

john durham, the u.s. attorney in connecticut is conducting a criminal probe into the nexus of that investigation and the results may be quite telling. >> i did not get involved with it. that's up to them. by the way, i would be allowed to get involved in that if i wanted to. but i chose not to accept a bill barr. >> attorney general bill barr told fox news last week he's staying away from the investigation meaningful responsibility to durham. >> is a 35 year veteran of the department. great reputation, >> the investigation began last spring as an administrative review. new evidence under lock and key came into play and now the probe is criminal. durham can subpoena witnesses and impanel a grand jury. he did travel with durham to italy to introduce him to an italian officials who can help with information. fox news also learned that he introduced durham to officials from the united kingdom and australia. president obama cia director john brennan, potentially mentioned in the probe, praised durham at a rece

that's for john durham. so while he dropped back at the feet of john durham to have to pursue beyond what he can do? >> we believe he's already given that information to durham. and looking for ways to resolve some of these issues. chris is exactly right, you will see some indictments probably come out of this. be one it doesn't come out of ig, it goes to durham. durham already pursuing the facts that have been developed by the ig and we don't probably expect that, durham's report or conclusions will come out in the summer of next year. don't you expect durham's conclusions will come out long before this election season really is in full swing? >> i would expect this to do more of a drip and drabek. >> laura: that's what they did in the rush of thing. they had a man paul manafort at goes on and on. i want to talk about what nancy pelosi couldn't answer today when it came to impeachable conduct. >> the constitution defines an impeachable offense as treason, bribery or high crimes and misdemeanors. what do you

is john durham investigation very important. i feel, one of the most important investigations in the history of our country. do you have a date or a venue for your meeting? trump: i know they would like to meet, something like that could happen. >> du one house republicans to call for public testimony? from co the house republicans and the senate republicans have been incredible. from co the house republicans and the senate republicans have been incredible. i don't think there has ever been unity like we have right now. we had 195 votes, we only had one negative vote. the only negative votes on the whole impeachment scammer the democrats. i think nancy pelosi has lost her mind and i think that she should go back home to san francisco. if you look at what is happening, to her district, her district is going to hell with homeless that they are not taking care of, with needles all over the streets, with tents, with people, with sanitation, with horrible things being washed into the ocean and in the pacific ocean. washed into the pa

durham to get to the bottom of how it started back in 2016. maria: well knowing what we know in terms of the texts, the conversation between lisa page and peter strzok and the way that they dumped $10,000 in george papadopoulos' lap, all of that entrapment, i said during the mueller report if robert mueller doesn't focus on the origins of the russia probe, it's not credible because the democrats refuse to focus on any wrongdoing that may have occurred during the 2016 election. >> yeah, but bill barr hasn't. remember what he said six months ago, maria. when he testified in front of the senate finance committee, the attorney general said four very important things. first of all, he said there was a failure of leadership at the upper fbi. that is certainly true. mr. comey, mccabe, and page, it's certainly true. second he said spying took place third he said there's a basis for my concern about the spying that happened and fourth and probably most troubling, he used the term poll surveillance. that's why he's cast mr. durham to get to the bottom o

john durham should not be looking at it. margaret do you agree? >> i do. here is my definition of an analyst. an analyst is someone who deals with a situation of ambiguity, with information arriving incrementally, but under constant pressure to come to a conclusion. that means that analysts take reputational risks every day. and i think mike's most compelling point here is if you , put analysts in a situation where they are defending their analysis with a lawyer at their side, and a person holding a criminal prosecution over their head, that is a terrible position to put in analyst in. -- to put an analyst in. terrible position to put an analyst in. the most compelling point mike makes is this discourages risk-taking in analysis. without risk-taking, you get pablum. i think the other point to make here, margaret, is that the standard for coming to a judgment in a criminal case is much higher than the standard for coming to judgment on an analytic issue. so -- i think the other isnt to make here, margaret, that the standard for coming to a judgment in a cri

durham. >> i initially discussed these matters with those countries, then introduced them to john durham and established a channel by which mr. durham can obtain assistance from those countries but he is in charge of the investigation. i'm not doing the investigation. >> he mentions countries it's not just italy. we're talking about the u.k. and officials from the australian government. also the i.g. inspector general report will come out at some point soon and give us an idea into surveillance into the trump campaign and see how that plays into the durham investigation. president trump happy about the durham investigation. attorney general bill barr says he has handed the investigation completely over to john durham. >> sandra: we await that. thank you. david. >> bill: news out of tehran. iran violating the nuclear deal again saying it will double the sen try faoujs to enrich uranium. joe lieberman, nice to see you again. welcome back to "america's newsroom." so apparently they mean business. what are you to make of this news here before we talk specifics? >> well, they've decided that

that's for john durham. won't he drop facts at the feet of john durham to have to pursue beyond what he can do? >> that's exactly right. he's limited. we believe he's already given that information to durham and that's why durham has been around the world conducting interviews and looking for ways to resolve these issues. that's why i think chris is exactly right. you're going to see some indictments probably come out of this and for all we know they might have already convened a grand jury. >> it doesn't come out of i.g., it goes to durham, they're already pursuing the facts that have been developed by the i.g. and we don't probably expect that durham's report or conclusions are going to come out in the summer of next year. don't you expect durham's conclusions will come out long before this election season really is in its full swing? >> i would expect him to do this more of a drip and drab, when he's ready to indict somebody i would expect those to start coming out so you would see a series as opposed to

growth durham or darlington, yes. when you ta ke durham or darlington, yes. when you take services out of a market town like this that has seen a lack of investment, people really feel it, don't they, and normally they take it out on the incumbent government, but that's not what we are seeing this time. traditionally, being a labour stronghold for so long, i think a lot of voters would look to labour to represent them with those issues, those services that they would expect labour to represent better and fight for their corner. like you said, brexit is dominating. 61% of people here voted to leave, and yet the incumbent was a remain... why is that? do they think, until we get this sorted, the issues we care about will be put on the back burner? i think that is a fear, and! the back burner? i think that is a fear, and i think a lot of people would look to labour, to the current incumbent, to represent them with thoseissues incumbent, to represent them with those issues and, if she is not representing them on the biggest decision that they've made, you know, vo

ey attojohn durham, who is considered to be bipartisan,an non-partnd honest broker -- >> john durham is respectedel gu but that is a good thing that barr appointed durham to take over that role. why, then, bill barr, if the reports are correct, is flying l over the world to be personally involved in something like that is bee fuddling t me. the whole point pf having somebody widely respected and non- grtisan is toe yourself distance from that so you don' cause people think this is political decision and yba walk and step away. >> and you're referring too bil barr flew to italy with john durham for some unclear reason. >> yng do a good tnd say i want people to have faith and confidence that this investigation of ts investigat we've been calling it is being done in good faith. the problem is when you investigations when itooks like they're being done for political reasons and justice must be done and a seen to be de and it all stinks because the president of the united states, the most powerful person in the kurn with the largest bull horn in the world keepor clamoring it and then it h

attorney durham is casting a wide net and is following the facts where they may lead you are that i'm aware that there is an investigation that's as much as i'm aware and so to the extent any information resides in you in ukraine it's perfectly appropriate for the ukrainians to try to get to the bottom of that for the ukrainians to cooperate with with the united states through official channels to to share that information correct discuss can you say that want to get rugby pre-shared if you would restate the question of the extent ukraine has facts related to the run up of the 2016 election that are under. the u.s. attorney durham's probe ukraine should should cooperate with the united states and to the extent there ukrainians doing improper things the ukrainians ought to investigate that themselves correct this custard the ukrainian american relations are are very supportive the ukrainians wolf will certainly be responsive to 'd requests so when the president on the call transcript the july 25th raises this with presidents lansky and he urges that there be a connection between. the u

we bring back former federal prosecutor jim trustee. >> durham is the guy to watch, i think the durham probe is more likely to lead to criminal charges if either will. but it possible that there is overlap, that horowitz report has language that suggests there is criminality, i think there is a lot of room for wrong doing, things that will deserve condemnation but not rise to level of a crime. elizabeth: we'll see. we have more news from senator graham on hunter biden front, he wants to see any transcript of phone calls that president obama had with the president of ukraine at the time he was vice president. let's listen. >> i want to know are there any transcripts or read out between the vice president and president of ukraine in february after the raid on the gas company president's house. after this raid, hunter biden kicks in, his business partner meeting with john kerry and vice president biden on three occasions makes' phone call to president of ukraine, he goes over in march, they fire the guy, this is the same man that ambassador wanted investigated in 2015. elizabeth: your rea

. >> durham's report could be months away. but the ig-report from michael horowitz could be an important blueprint for the durham report and call for more congressional investigations. the igreport is expected december ninth. michael horowitz will testify before congress on december 11th. >> shannon: thank you. house democrats eyeing the next step in the impeachment inquiry as we await two reports about fbi abuse in the republican investigation. this senator will be a jury. we are starting to hear more about the horowitz report and what it may or may not say. the "washington post" said running the fbi's russia probe, saying there will be findings that were troubled but not biassed. it said: this is what rush limbaugh has to say as we wait for the report. >> i am not all in on horowitz. horowitz is from the same group of people who have been testifying all week and last. >> shannon: do you think people hoping this will exonerate the president or show there was the highest level of the fbi real bias will be disappointed by this

attorney durham as expanded the scope his investigation, she is looking at james clapper, john brennan and now events of 2017. we bring in bill gavin, former fbi assistant director. >> good evening. >> democrats, nadler and schiff condemning the durham probe. saying it is ill legitimate, your take? >> that is again, most what nadler puts out is ridiculous. what is going on right now is very important. as far as united states attorney durham is concerned he is spearheading an investigation by fbi agents in a classic sense, he is having agents go out, conduct interview, determine who witnesses are, determine who possible suspects are. and what is more important as a u.s. attorney, he is running a grand jury. you can recall, when comey and company, hijacked the investigation of hillary clinton and ran it from headquarters, none of these things were done. this is done in the classic sense by the field office, current direct or wray i am sure is aware of everything. this will be successful. elizabeth: bill -- >> one thing. elizabeth: go ahead. >> one thing that we have to look at, the inves

and that's why durham has to take over. the inspector general can only go within the department of justice. durham can go into any of those departments. the attorney general himself said they used all tools at their disposal, that include legal and illegal to go after this president and try to subvert him. this will be one of the biggest tests for the department of justice if they can hold themselves accountable and those within the cia and the dni. >> sean: outsourcing intelligence gathering that will fit. the democratic party has become a dumpster fire of far left socialism and economy killing extremism on top of the hate and rage against trump for breathing. even barack obama sounding the alarm. warning about the dangers of this far left turn. i think there is something. i will explain on the other side of what he says. >> we are bold. [muffled audio]. >> sean: now, we told you this would happen. the party would become so r radicalized domesticallical that even -- so radical that even barack obama will probably be hated

there is a reason why he has been so active with durham. the fact that lindsey graham has scheduled a date, he will not just drop that report the morning of the hearing, as sometimes it does in the house. i think we'll get a full, complete look at it. it will be nearly 1,000 pages. >> sean: 1,000 pages? >> closer to 1,000 pages. you don't do reports like this to give them a clean bill of health. that is not what is going on here. >> sean: kimberly, my sources have repeatedly said, they will be criminal referrals and that they are will also be information and evidence that will shock the conscience and soul of the american people. what are your sources telling you? >> yeah, i have heard the same thing. i think it is going to be a mix. there are going to be some criminal referrals. there is also just going to be a lot of calling out of a very bad behavior and rule breaking internally. people are going to be held to account. i think if you are talking about a report that is that big, it isn't going to focus narrowly on just fisa court abuse. i

john durham should not be looking at it. >> do you agree? >> i do. an analyst is someone who deals with a situation of ambiguity, with information arriving incrementally, but under constant pressure to come to a conclusion. analysts take reputational risks every day. mike's most compelling point is if you put analysts and a situation where they are defending their analysis with a and a at their side a criminaling prosecution over their head, that is a terrible position to put in analyst in. the most compelling point mike makes is this discourages risk-taking in analysis. make isther point to that the standard for coming to a judgment in a criminal case is much higher than the standard for coming to judgment on an analytic issue. i am concerned that john durham, when he looks at this, he will say the analysts did not have enough information to make the judgment they made. he is looking at it from the perspective of whether he would indict somebody, not whether he would make a decision as an analyst. >> to all the future analysts in the room, don't let

in 2016 and the fisa abuse as i have as well, do you think this now criminal investigation from john durham, horowitz report, ig report all of this blouse up in the middle of the election in 2020, what will that do? >> i think i've been looking forward to ig report, i don't see that there's any foundation for that fisa warrant that real abuses with committed and i hope people are held accountable for the abuses and i think they will based on the hints that people like lindsey graham say, where is the report, it's been years now. maria: that's what our viewers want to know, good to see you, mark penn, republican lawmaker matt geatz, back in a minute. my parents never taught me anything about managing money. the amount of student loan debt i have, i'm embarrassed to even say. we just decided we didn't want debt any longer. ♪ i didn't realize how easy investing could be. i'm picking companies that i believe in. ♪ i think sofi money is amazing. ♪ thank you sofi. sofi thank you, we love you. ♪ maria: welcome back, former white house chief strategist steve bannon last weekend on the progr

it's now a criminal investigation allows durham to subpoena witnesses and conduct a grand jury. the new phase is raising alarm for democrats. >> if these reports are correct and bill barr's justice department is doing a criminal investigation of people who properly looked into russian interference in our election, in the fbi, or the intelligence agencies, it means that bill barr on the president's behalf is weaponizing the justice department to go after the president's enemies. >> but barr recently disputed he was doing the president's bidding and touted credence shls. >> he's a 35 year veteran of the department. he's a by the book kind of guy. he's thorough and fair. >> at the same time, the justice department's inspector general is wrapping up a related review into the use of fisa warrants to surveil carter page for a period of time after he left the campaign. the use of those fisa warrants has also been a flash point of criticism for the republicans and the president and the report on the findings from that review could be released within weeks. jessica schneider, cnn, washin

>> the john durham investigation is moving along. that's up to attorney general barr, highly respected. john durham is one of the most respected prosecutors in the last 50 years in this country. and i let them do their thing. it's bill barr and john durham, and what they come up whether, i think, be very meaningful. we'll see a what happens. i do not get involved with it. that's up to them. and, by the way, i'd be allowed to get involved with it if i wanted to, but i chose not to. it's up to bill barr. but the john durham investigation is very important. i feel one of the most important investigations in the history of our country. next? >> [inaudible] >> do you have a date or venue -- >> no, we don't. i know they'd like to meet, something like that could happen. [inaudible conversations] >> house republicans to call for public testimony? >> i think that the house republicans and the senate republicans have been incredible. i don't think there's ever been unity like we have right now. we had 195 or so votes, the only one that had neg

you have john durham's criminal investigation. i ask you what exactly is debunked about 2016 interference which is what adam schiff drugs? he's not under oath to write this letter either. >> he is not. and it's not debunked and i think the ig report is going to validate at the time chairman nunez buys a memo that highlighted the abuses, i tell you this, i can't tell you what the exculpatory information is but there was some. and i tell you it was not timely delivered to the fisa court during the dependency of those fisa applications and i'll promise you that the inspector general report is going to address that. maria: we think we know that, our audience knows that because we've had george papadopoulos on in your colleague saying that there was an informant who went to george papadopoulos and said it's great that russia has easy modes and it's good for trump in george papadopoulos answers and says that trees and i would never do something like that and the guy was wired and it was an informant talking to him and that transcript sh

attorney from connecticut john durham to headed out. durham is well-versed in corruption at the fbi in the cia. he's prosecuted and put behind bars people who have engaged in lawless acts in those agencies. as i write the book inventing a lie is easy but starting the lie is easier in uncovering the truth is hard because the truth always has its enemies. it will take time to unravel all of the lawlessness and corrupt acts involved in the "witch hunt" but i have confidence in william barr and john durham. the inspector general's report will be very important but they are not waiting for the ig report they are moving full steam ahead and in fact we recently learned durham has expanded his investigation, added additional personal which suggests to me he likely has already found evidence of potential crimes. what is amazing when you read the book and recollect the amazing path that our country has been on it seems like during the obama years nothing leaked. nothing leaked from this deep state. we put that in air quotes. they have no real dir

it's being held up partially because of john durham's new grand jury that exists for one reason only. because people are going to be indicted. >> he's in charge of the fisa abuse and the origins of spygate, whatever you want to call it, in the worst political scandal in this country's history. is anything being held up because of the vast scope of his investigation? >> it's been expand because he's going into other areas. he has gone back into the origins of the investigation. for those of us who know this business, if you are in counter-intelligence and you get a word that george papadopoulos said he heard something, that the russians had something. you know what you do? you go knock on his door within a week and ask him by the. where did he get it. they didn't do that. they disobeyed all the rules of a counter-intelligence investigation. >> it expanded because originally barr wanted durham to just look at the beginnings of crossfire hurricane. but they discovered from the devin nunes experience at the white house in march of 2017 that there has been massive, massive unmaskings of am

we've got to wait for durham, right? i don't know what durham is going to find. you know, it sounds like this kevin kline smith, the lawyer who is accused of wrongdoing, the false statement, is an add-on to what durham is doing, you know, looking at the intelligence community assessment of russian interference. you know, it's not clear where this is going to head, and let's just be frank. is any of this going to matter? the inspector general of the department of justice is going to put out a report with facts. but the truth has been so eroded these last few years, you know, what's the public going to take away from this? >> phil, again, you've been on the inside here. is it embarrassing for these fbi, you know, officials who will be named as being clumsy at best and criminally at worst? >> oh, hell, yeah. this isn't clumsy. if that lawyer -- and i gather that lawyer has left his position in government. if that lawyer was in government, i think he should be fired immediately, not like last minute. i mean like now. that person needs to go. that said, there's a diff

so that is something that the president is very happy about because if john durham the prosecutor who was assigned to look into the 2016 election investigations, if he were to find anything that would be helpful to donald trump, we are going into an election season in addition to the impeachment hearing. and information that durham finds that could be exculpatory would help the counter narrative and into the election. >> and you are bill barr. you get asked to come to the hill. what is your defense, executive privilege? >> privilege. i would hide behind privilege and i would respectfully decline not to show up. i think what is really important what katie just said as well, the fact that bill barr himself has traveled all over the world already at the behest of donald trump in the search, this elusive search of more information in terms of what happened in our 2016 election. i think what is dangerous by his continuing involvement, number one, durham charged with the responsibility do it, but number two, the fruman and parnas connection to rudy giuliani, it kind of touches too closely t

john durham should not be looking at it. >> do you agree? >> yeah, i think, here's my definition of an analyst, an analyst for some who deals with a situation of ambiguity with information arriving incrementally but under constant pressure to come to a conclusion. that means that analysts take reputational risks every day. i think his most compelling point your is if you put analysts in in a situation whee there defending their analysis where there are no longer sitting the site and someone holding a criminal prosecution over their head for a judgment they made in a situation that i can tell you never has complete information in the manner that you expect her to be, complete information in a courtroom before you come to a conclusion, that's a terrible position to put an analyst in. the most compelling point mike makes is without risk-taking you get have expressed expert the t to make your is that the standard for coming to a judgment in a criminal case is much, much, much higher than the standards for coming to judgment on it analytic issue.

they can be very deferential to decisions that somebody like john durham would look at a. and say wait a minute, that's not how you do business as a career prosecutor. >> neil: where do they go from a report like that though, jim? >> it could include criminal referrals which, again, in this case might be dove tailing into what durham is doing. again, this is an administrative action. so they don't have the same teeth that a criminal investigative probe has like durham with grand jury usage, with tough questions put to witnesses and with a whole different kind of exposure for the people that are the subject of the report. >> neil: jim trusty, i always learn so much. thank you very much, my friend. have a good weekend. >> you, too neil. >> neil: impeachment heating up why does it seem in swing states for voters it's turning them off?ph selfie-ing. and whatever this is. available to the public... never. smartdogs are not the answer. but geico has a simple tip. turn on "do not disturb while driving" mode. brought to you by geico. it is nice. his haircut is "nice." this is the

in 2016 and the fisa abuse as i have as well, do you think this now criminal investigation from john durham, horowitz report, ig report all of this blouse up in the middle of the election in 2020, what will that do? >> i think i've been looking forward to ig report, i don't see that there's any foundation for that fisa warrant that real abuses with committed and i hope people are held accountable for the abuses and i think they will based on the hints that people like lindsey graham say, where is the report, it's been years now. maria: that's what our viewers want to know, good to see you, mark penn, republican lawmaker mark penn, republican lawmaker matt geat only one thing's more exciting than getting a lexus... wow! giving one. how did you guys...? >>don't ask. the lexus december to rembember sales event get 0 percent apr for 60 months on all 2019 models. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. a former army medic, made of the we maflexibility to handle members like kate. whatever monday has in store and tackle four things at once. so when her car got hit, she didn't worry. she simply f

durham is looking into as well. geraldo was on with hannity last night and said this news about the fbi, bombshell. >> if it is true, that they have an fbi agent, who has altered documents, supporting the fisa warrant, on carter page, this is huge news that cannot be under emphasized. this james comey's fbi. this is the conspiracy theory that has never been told, except on this network. here's an fbi agent sworn officer, constitutional officer going to a fisa judge and lying, essentially, altering a document to get the warrant to begin the surveillance of the trump campaign aide carter page. this is huge news. this is explosion. brian: obviously will geraldo's face like no one else's. we expect horowitz's report a few days earlier. this is the churenel of the other story line that we have been trying to follow. we are trying to get out of the blocks. meanwhile the big story yesterday was the last day of week two of the impeachment hearings. featuring david holmes and fiona hill. david holmes was able to overhear bot

attorney durham is casting a wide net and is following the facts where they may lead. are you aware of that? >> i'm aware that there is an investigation. that's as much as i'm aware. >> and to the extent any information resides in ukraine, it's perfectly appropriate for the ukrainians to try to get to the bottom of that for the ukrainians to cooperate with the united states through official channels to share that information, correct? >> mr. castor, can you say that one again? i would appreciate if you would restate the question. >> to the extent ukraine has facts related to the run-up of the 2016 election that are under the u.s. attorney durham's probe, ukraine should cooperate with the united states and to the extent they are ukrainians doing improper things the ukrainians ought to investigate that themselves, correct? >> mr. castor, the ukrainia ukrainian-american relations are very supportive. the ukrainians will certainly be responsive to requests. >> so when the president on the call transcript of july 25th raises this with president zelensky and he urges that th

the evidence reportedly has been turned over to the prosecutor, john durham. this looks like a major preview of coming attractions.g remember, senator graham on this show last night told us definitively of the inspector general report on fisa abuse will be out on decembe december 9th. michael horowitz, the inspector general, will be before senator graham's committee on december 11th. according to our own investigative reporter sara carter, the durum probe has expanded to the same pentagon office that reported multiple contracts, that's right, to the spy step on how appropriate her to react to this and much more, utx news contributor, investigative reporter sara carter. this, to me come with c got lead because they know it's coming out anyway because now the horowitz report, anybody that is mentioned it it is getting an opportunity to see what is in it. >> that's right, shawn. that's what i've been told by a number of sources that release games from witnesses that had a chance to review the report. remember, only those witnesses can review the report. i did con

attorney durham is casting a wide net and is following the facts where they may lead. are you aware of that? >> i'm aware that there is an investigation. that's as much as i'm aware. >> so to the extent any information resides in ukraine, it's perfectly appropriate for the ukrainians to try to get to the bottom of that, for the ukrainians to cooperate with the united states through official channels to share that information, correct? >> can you say that again? i would appreciate if you'd restate the question. >> to the extent that ukrainian has facts related to the run-up to the 2016 election that are under the u.s. attorney durham's probe, ukraine should cooperate with the united states and to the extent there aredog imprope ukrainians ought to investigate that themselves, correct? >> mr. castor, the ukraine/american relations are very supportive. the ukrainians will certainly be responsive to requests. >> when the president on the call transcript of july 25th raises this with president zelensky and he urges that there be a connection between the ukrainian government