is john durham investigation very important. i feel, one of the most important investigations in the history of our country. do you have a date or a venue for your meeting? trump: i know they would like to meet, something like that could happen. >> du one house republicans to call for public testimony? from co the house republicans and the senate republicans have been incredible. from co the house republicans and the senate republicans have been incredible. i don't think there has ever been unity like we have right now. we had 195 votes, we only had one negative vote. the only negative votes on the whole impeachment scammer the democrats. i think nancy pelosi has lost her mind and i think that she should go back home to san francisco. if you look at what is happening, to her district, her district is going to hell with homeless that they are not taking care of, with needles all over the streets, with tents, with people, with sanitation, with horrible things being washed into the ocean and in the pacific ocean. washed into the pa

john durham, the u.s. attorney in connecticut, is conducting a criminal probe into the nexus of that investigation and the results may be quite telling. >> i do not get involved with it, that's up to them. and by the way, i feel out to get involved with it if i want to, but i chose not to. it's up to bill barr. >> but attorney general told fox news just last week he staying away from investigation leaving sole responsibility to durham. >> i understand he's making great progress. as you know he's a 35 year veteran of the department. great reputation for nonpartisanship. >> the investigation began last spring as an administrator's review. over the summer, new evidence still under lock and key came into play and now the probe is criminal. durham can now subpoena witnesses and impanel a grand jury. despite him saying he's not involved, bill barr did traveled with durham to italy to introduce them to italian officials who could help with information. fox news has also learned introduced durham to officials from

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maria: how much of this impeachment inquiry is smoking mirrors ahead of the john durham criminal investigation details and the ig report? a couple of weeks ago we had on lona, a woman who met general michael flynn as we know ahead of veterans day, michael flynn ranked to lieutenant general over 33 years, he served as president trump's national security adviser before resigning in february 17th and -- and he basically saw his reputation destroyed. here is what lona -- did you have a romantic relationship with general flynn? >> absolutely not. maria: the media suggest that perhaps you did after meeting him that one time, how many times did you meet general flynn? >> in my whole life i've only met and spoken to general flynn, 28 of february, 2014. maria: so congressman, they used her to muddy up the reputation of general flynn who had served our country for more than 30 years, can you connect the dots and tell us if this ukraine situation has any relation to what took place in 2016 where they tried to frame donald trump and his campaign? >> it's not just me saying that, it's not just rudy giulian

>> the john durham investigation is moving along. that's up to attorney general barr, highly respected. john durham is one of the most respected prosecutors in the last 50 years in this country. and i let them do their thing. it's bill barr and john durham, and what they come up whether, i think, be very meaningful. we'll see a what happens. i do not get involved with it. that's up to them. and, by the way, i'd be allowed to get involved with it if i wanted to, but i chose not to. it's up to bill barr. but the john durham investigation is very important. i feel one of the most important investigations in the history of our country. next? >> [inaudible] >> do you have a date or venue -- >> no, we don't. i know they'd like to meet, something like that could happen. [inaudible conversations] >> house republicans to call for public testimony? >> i think that the house republicans and the senate republicans have been incredible. i don't think there's ever been unity like we have right now. we had 195 or so votes, the only one that had neg

john durham should not be looking at it. margaret do you agree? >> i do. here is my definition of an analyst. an analyst is someone who deals with a situation of ambiguity, with information arriving incrementally, but under constant pressure to come to a conclusion. that means that analysts take reputational risks every day. and i think mike's most compelling point here is if you , put analysts in a situation where they are defending their analysis with a lawyer at their side, and a person holding a criminal prosecution over their head, that is a terrible position to put in analyst in. -- to put an analyst in. terrible position to put an analyst in. the most compelling point mike makes is this discourages risk-taking in analysis. without risk-taking, you get pablum. i think the other point to make here, margaret, is that the standard for coming to a judgment in a criminal case is much higher than the standard for coming to judgment on an analytic issue. so -- i think the other isnt to make here, margaret, that the standard for coming to a judgment in a cri

john durham, the u.s. attorney in connecticut is conducting a criminal probe into the nexus of that investigation and the results may be quite telling. >> i did not get involved with it. that's up to them. by the way, i would be allowed to get involved in that if i wanted to. but i chose not to accept a bill barr. >> attorney general bill barr told fox news last week he's staying away from the investigation meaningful responsibility to durham. >> is a 35 year veteran of the department. great reputation, >> the investigation began last spring as an administrative review. new evidence under lock and key came into play and now the probe is criminal. durham can subpoena witnesses and impanel a grand jury. he did travel with durham to italy to introduce him to an italian officials who can help with information. fox news also learned that he introduced durham to officials from the united kingdom and australia. president obama cia director john brennan, potentially mentioned in the probe, praised durham at a rece

ey attojohn durham, who is considered to be bipartisan,an non-partnd honest broker -- >> john durham is respectedel gu but that is a good thing that barr appointed durham to take over that role. why, then, bill barr, if the reports are correct, is flying l over the world to be personally involved in something like that is bee fuddling t me. the whole point pf having somebody widely respected and non- grtisan is toe yourself distance from that so you don' cause people think this is political decision and yba walk and step away. >> and you're referring too bil barr flew to italy with john durham for some unclear reason. >> yng do a good tnd say i want people to have faith and confidence that this investigation of ts investigat we've been calling it is being done in good faith. the problem is when you investigations when itooks like they're being done for political reasons and justice must be done and a seen to be de and it all stinks because the president of the united states, the most powerful person in the kurn with the largest bull horn in the world keepor clamoring it and then it h

. >> the answer is that we now have the investigation resident with john durham who is the u.s. attorney in connecticut. it is sufficiently interests lalted fr insulated from the political process. the attorney general made clear that he is not in direct supervision of that investigation, that it is up to john durham to decide. i don't know where that will lead and i don't know what we'll see in result of the michael mo horowitz report that should shed further light on the russia investigation. and you may well be right that the ukranian connection either does or doesn't have merit, so far i don't know. >> it is not us that is right, it is the intelligence community that assessed that it was russia. >> but now we have a there are looki -- we have a brother loprosecug into it. >> why do you need a prosecutor? on what basis does that prosecutor have that it was actually ukraine? >> we don't know yet. that is why you have somebody charged with looking into it. just because you have an investigation doesn't pre-judge whether or not it has any merit. that is why you look into it. tha

but the thing i'm focused on is him going with john durham to i believe it was reported to italy to listen to or review a transcript of an interview. that to me is extraordinary. and i don't know why he would be the one to do that. i mean, it kind of follows on the fact that this review didn't happen in a typical way. typically the way things work at the department of justice is they bubble up from the career folks on the ground. an agent or prosecutor gets a lead and brings -- starts an investigation or review. here, this came from the top-down and the attorney general ordered it. that's also very unusual. >> okay. so, similar question but not exactly the same. why does his involvment matter so much? >> well, look, the department of justice as an institution is dead set on doing its work in an apolitical manner. they do their work based on the facts and on the law without regard to partisan politics. when you have the attorney general so personally invested in a particular review, it gives the perception that maybe there are something more than the facts and the evidence at play. in other

this is exactly what the john durham probe does. it is an investigation into the origins of the russia probe and we know now sandra as of a few weeks ago it is criminal. u.s. attorney john durham out of connecticut started as an administrative review if may and now it has changed. he can now impanel a grand jury and file criminal charges. on the south lawn yesterday of the white house we asked president trump about the progress of this investigation. listen. >> president trump: we'll see what happens. i do not get involved with it. that's up to them. by the way, i would be allowed to get involved with it if i wanted to but i chose not to. it is up to bill barr. the john durham investigation is a very important -- i feel one of the most important investigations in the history of our country. >> attorney general bill barr in an interview with fox news just last week said he has handed the investigation completely over the durham. barr did meet with durham in italy to introduce him to members of the italian government to assist mr. dur

durham. it's a sad sad sorry process indeed for this country. sam dewey, thanks. >> have a very good holiday. lou: happy thanksgiving. an explosion at a chemical plant near houston texas. it was caught on video. the house door blown off at the moment of the blast. three workers were injured in an explosion. a number of homes nearby were damaged and felt miles and miles away. the first blast at 1:00 a.m., a second explosion occurred 12 hours later. neighbors within four miles of the plant evacuated. we would like you to share your comments on facebook, twitter and instagram. stay with us for much more here tonight. something that hasn't happened at duke university in almost 20 years. ñ??w lou: new reports on china's economy. the economy suffering and dramatically so. data from the bureau of statistics found their prowf fits showing the steepest decline in 8 months. china wants to leave the u.n. organization that protects intellectual property. china nominating its own ca

john durham should not be looking at it. >> do you agree? >> i do. an analyst is someone who deals with a situation of ambiguity, with information arriving incrementally, but under constant pressure to come to a conclusion. analysts take reputational risks every day. mike's most compelling point is if you put analysts and a situation where they are defending their analysis with a and a at their side a criminaling prosecution over their head, that is a terrible position to put in analyst in. the most compelling point mike makes is this discourages risk-taking in analysis. make isther point to that the standard for coming to a judgment in a criminal case is much higher than the standard for coming to judgment on an analytic issue. i am concerned that john durham, when he looks at this, he will say the analysts did not have enough information to make the judgment they made. he is looking at it from the perspective of whether he would indict somebody, not whether he would make a decision as an analyst. >> to all the future analysts in the room, don't let

that's for john durham. so while he dropped back at the feet of john durham to have to pursue beyond what he can do? >> we believe he's already given that information to durham. and looking for ways to resolve some of these issues. chris is exactly right, you will see some indictments probably come out of this. be one it doesn't come out of ig, it goes to durham. durham already pursuing the facts that have been developed by the ig and we don't probably expect that, durham's report or conclusions will come out in the summer of next year. don't you expect durham's conclusions will come out long before this election season really is in full swing? >> i would expect this to do more of a drip and drabek. >> laura: that's what they did in the rush of thing. they had a man paul manafort at goes on and on. i want to talk about what nancy pelosi couldn't answer today when it came to impeachable conduct. >> the constitution defines an impeachable offense as treason, bribery or high crimes and misdemeanors. what do you

it will make interesting reading and we will clearly understand why john durham's probe has turned into a criminal probe. i suspect this will change the narrative. people will talk about impeachment but there is something else to talk about too. jillian: scheduled to testify about the report december 11th that will be released tonight. rob: thank you, appreciate it. jillian: we will be right with us. jillian: congresswoman ilhan omar announces a radical new housing plan. >> i am excited to introduce an act which will fulfill the promise of a home guaranteed by building 1 million new public housing and private permanently affordable rental units. jillian: the $1 trillion proposal would repeal a 20-year-old law which bars federal government from building more affordable housing. omar say how she will fund the plan the claims the new housing units will be available to illegal immigrants. rob: a hunger strike leads to 9 arrest after activists storm nancy pelosi's office, the group demanding action on climate change. >> i hope nancy will put forward an official declaration of a climate emerg

durham. it's a sad sad sorry process indeed for this country. sam dewey, thanks. >> have a very good holiday. lou: happy thanksgiving. an explosion at a chemical plant near houston texas. it was caught on video. the house door blown off at the moment of the blast. three workers were injured in an explosion. a number of homes nearby were damaged and felt miles and miles away. the first blast at 1:00 a.m., a second explosion occurred 12 hours later. neighbors within four miles of the plant evacuated. we would like you to share your comments on facebook, twitter and instagram. stay with us for much more here tonight. something that hasn't happened at duke university in almost 20 years. ank color printer. no more buying cartridges. big ink tanks. lots of ink. print about... this many pages. the epson ecotank. just fill and chill. a former army medic, made of the we maflexibility to handle members like kate. whatever monday has in store and tackle four things at once. so when her car got hit, she

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john durham should not be looking at it. >> do you agree? >> yeah, i think, here's my definition of an analyst, an analyst for some who deals with a situation of ambiguity with information arriving incrementally but under constant pressure to come to a conclusion. that means that analysts take reputational risks every day. i think his most compelling point your is if you put analysts in in a situation whee there defending their analysis where there are no longer sitting the site and someone holding a criminal prosecution over their head for a judgment they made in a situation that i can tell you never has complete information in the manner that you expect her to be, complete information in a courtroom before you come to a conclusion, that's a terrible position to put an analyst in. the most compelling point mike makes is without risk-taking you get have expressed expert the t to make your is that the standard for coming to a judgment in a criminal case is much, much, much higher than the standards for coming to judgment on it analytic issue.

you have john durham's criminal investigation. i ask you what exactly is debunked about 2016 interference which is what adam schiff drugs? he's not under oath to write this letter either. >> he is not. and it's not debunked and i think the ig report is going to validate at the time chairman nunez buys a memo that highlighted the abuses, i tell you this, i can't tell you what the exculpatory information is but there was some. and i tell you it was not timely delivered to the fisa court during the dependency of those fisa applications and i'll promise you that the inspector general report is going to address that. maria: we think we know that, our audience knows that because we've had george papadopoulos on in your colleague saying that there was an informant who went to george papadopoulos and said it's great that russia has easy modes and it's good for trump in george papadopoulos answers and says that trees and i would never do something like that and the guy was wired and it was an informant talking to him and that transcript sh

what john durham and bill barr are doing is investigating the roots of the investigation, the spark that the president felt delegitimized his win and wanted to discredit. so we're seeing this in the run-up for an election where you will have a very public hearing that could drudge up a lot, or distasteful things about the president. at the same time the justice department is running an investigation that could in some ways give him ammunition to say, hey 3/4 so many people who are out to get me, it is totally unfair. >> really great breakdown there from katie. are you looking over your shoulder at what the justice department is doing, or are you looking straight ahead? >> i don't think the durham or the barr investigation threatens too much what congress is doing, to the extent they're so focused on the ukraine matter. >> it's a counter-narrative. you know what i mean? >> absolutely. it will give republicans something to pound the table about when they have a chance at the microphones, and they will certain take it. i think to wrap all this conversation together, looking at these rules,

a separate probe by john durham is ongoing. he's the federal prosecutor appointed by the attorney general, to conduct a broad review of intelligence-gathering in the russia probe. no timeline for that report. >>> shocking and undecembpreced that were the words for richard spencer on president trump. he said it was a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniformed set of rules and practices. here was the president's take on those rules and practices at a rally in florida on tuesday. >> i stuck up for three great warriors against the deep state. people can sit there in air conditioned offices and complain. but it doesn't matter to me whatsoever. >> spencer's of sed comes days after he was fired by mark esper. he was ousted for going outside the chain of command and proposing a secret agreement with the white house. >>> anthony davis making history in his return to new orleans, as a member of the lakers. coy wire has this morning'

attorney from connecticut john durham to headed out. durham is well-versed in corruption at the fbi in the cia. he's prosecuted and put behind bars people who have engaged in lawless acts in those agencies. as i write the book inventing a lie is easy but starting the lie is easier in uncovering the truth is hard because the truth always has its enemies. it will take time to unravel all of the lawlessness and corrupt acts involved in the "witch hunt" but i have confidence in william barr and john durham. the inspector general's report will be very important but they are not waiting for the ig report they are moving full steam ahead and in fact we recently learned durham has expanded his investigation, added additional personal which suggests to me he likely has already found evidence of potential crimes. what is amazing when you read the book and recollect the amazing path that our country has been on it seems like during the obama years nothing leaked. nothing leaked from this deep state. we put that in air quotes. they have no real dir

i want to hear thoughts tomorrow but i want to ask you first about this report the john durham discussed with alexander downer as part of his investigation, and this was reported in the "washington examiner," whether or not he was part of some plot to take down president trump and always we've seen so far that so far he said no. what do you see in that report so far? >> it's a big deal for people who have been following this because as you know, a lot of republicans have asked about the origin of the whole trump russia investigation. it sounds like another era given we're talking about this impeachment at the moment but it's something that republicans still haven't found out about it in the whole series of events that led george papadopoulos to be the focus of the investigation and for that to be formally started on july 31st 2016 at the height of the presidential campaign, the role of foreign intelligence services like the australians and downere mysterious joseph massoud, republicans do want to find out what happened and the facts that john durham has been able to get to downer and get

then we have to leave it up to john durham, and john durham's criminal probe. he had much more leeway here, he can subpoena almost anybody he wants, any documentation, as well as panel a grand journey. it's going to be december 9th and i think we are just in a wait-and-see game right now. to be a carter page, if there is not a criminal referral against people like comey and sally gates and andrew mccabe or lying to the fisa court, how disappointed will you be? will that deter you in any future lawsuit against them? >> i am still very much in wait-and-see mode right now. we have very little information. all i get is what is leaked to "the new york times" and other questionable media outlets, so the big question, all i know is mr. kleinsmith, for example. i reported to him death threats i was getting based on these false stories in april 2017. and not only did he do nothing, but they had more leaks and more subsequent terror threats. which was pushed by the deep state and their democrat colleagues, so real sad situation. >> gregg: comey in the first by the warran

we'll learn more about what happened from horowitz and potentially john durham. >> one of the reasons we're waiting is they're allowing witnesses to dmom. here's what we say about you, any disputes, how big of a deal do they expect this to be. >> this is a big deal just because obviously of the allegation of somebody changing something in an application for surveillance. but look, if you step back, what carter page is saying is not really true. the fbi had plenty of other reasons to surveil carter page. as far as the investigation overall, right, the investigation that began into russian meddling and links to the trump campaign, that is, by all accounts, michael horowitz is going to find that was a legally predicated investigation, and we expect that's going to be the central finding in this report. of course, the president and some of his allies are going to pick up things that the fbi made mistakes and there are things they did wrong, but that's politics, right? >> chairman lindsey graham already scheduling a public hearing. >> a little counter publicizing. >>> former president obam

it's bill barr is john durham. what they come up with will be very meaningful. we'll see what happens i do not get involved with it. by the way, i'd be allowed to get involved with it but i chose not to. it's up to bill barr. the john durham investigation is a very important -- i feel, one of the most important investigations in the history of our country. do you have a date or venue -- >> no. something like that could happen. i know they'd like to meet. something like that could happen. >> you want house republicans to call for testimony? >> i think the house republicans and senate republicans have been incredible. i don't think they've ever bren unity like we have right now. we had 195 or so votes. we didn't have one negative vote. the only one that had negative votes on the whole impeachment scam were the democrats. i think nancy pelosi has lost her mind. i think, frankly, she should go back home to san francisco. if you look at what's happening to her district. her district is going to hell with homeless that they're not taking care of, with needles all over

he referred it to john durham who is a prosecutor doing a criminal prosecution. john durham has been appointed by bill barr to take a second look at what happened in 2016 of not only the fbi, cia and other agencies, but this is a big deal for the very reason you're talking about. it's the investigation that looks into what the russians and the trump campaign were involved in in 2016. there is a lot of scrutiny on this because the president has been essentially waiting for this report, saying it's going to show that he was illegally spied upon. >> it's certainly a good data point for him, and greg and melanie are back with us now. you are former congressional deputy of affairs for the fbi. what do you think of this, that there is this allegedly doctored document as part of this fisa application? >> it's hard to square with the fbi and i think someone else at the fbi would have the same reaction. >> you mean that someone would do this? >> right. for reasons we don't understand -- we haven't seen the report yet, but soassuming e report is correct and this happened,

that's for john durham. won't he drop facts at the feet of john durham to have to pursue beyond what he can do? >> that's exactly right. he's limited. we believe he's already given that information to durham and that's why durham has been around the world conducting interviews and looking for ways to resolve these issues. that's why i think chris is exactly right. you're going to see some indictments probably come out of this and for all we know they might have already convened a grand jury. >> it doesn't come out of i.g., it goes to durham, they're already pursuing the facts that have been developed by the i.g. and we don't probably expect that durham's report or conclusions are going to come out in the summer of next year. don't you expect durham's conclusions will come out long before this election season really is in its full swing? >> i would expect him to do this more of a drip and drab, when he's ready to indict somebody i would expect those to start coming out so you would see a series as opposed to

durham to do another step back. so if the fbi gets pretty much a decent bill of health from this report, from the horowitz report coming out on december 9th, you have to wonder what is john durham doing and why was he appointed? >> i do think we could expect the administration, no matter what the report said, and keep in mind inspector general reports always identify some sort of minor issues or irregularities but the president and his supporters will seize on anything in the report in order to essentially manufacture a controversy out of that. i think it is a reasonable expectation, one, because the president fabricates something out of absolutely nothing. if there is a seed of truth he would work with and he's lie able to do that and it continues to unearth devastating information for the president, indefensible conduct to the extent there is an opportunity to manufacture an alternative right-wing media eco-system reality to distract what is going on in the house of representatives, i think we could expect the pre

he doesn't have the same kind of prove you that john durham will have, especially in a criminal probe or he can subpoena witnesses, impanel a grand jury, look into the issues that we have been reporting on, for example, john durham is now expanding his probe into the pentagon, the office of net assessment, which paid fbi informant, we believe, stefan halper, for his help. the same person as carter page has told you many times before, that befriended him. we also know now in the horowitz report based on sources that i have been speaking to, both on the record and off the record, or on background, who have said that horowitz's report is so significant because of kevin kleinsmith. this is the fbi lawyer that worked directly under general counsel james baker. >> sean: are they going to use him as a scapegoat, so james comey who signed it and verified it is true, i can get off scot-free? >> and all. i don't think so. this is what they are concerned about now. i've been talking to sources that a number of people within the bureau, particularly within the fbi that were involved in actually a

durham now criminal investigation? >> yeah, well a couple things that's been reported i don't know if it's accurate but what i do know is this. six weeks ago adam schiff said we need to hear from the whistleblower and have him come testify. that would be good because we can evaluate his credibility. schiff has changed and now he says we don't need to hear from the whistleblower so what has happened in that timeframe that changed the chairman's mind? only one thing. we learned that adam schiff's staff had met with the whistleblower and adam schiff didn't tell us. we also learned that the whistleblower didn't communicate that even though the form you're required to fill out to the inspector general the whistleblower didn't communicate that he had talked with people on capitol hill namely adam schiff's staff, so that's the only thing that's changed so now adam schiff has changed his tune i think that's interesting, as we move forward and again, i think the american people have the right to know who the individual is, who

they can be very deferential to decisions that somebody like john durham would look at a. and say wait a minute, that's not how you do business as a career prosecutor. >> neil: where do they go from a report like that though, jim? >> it could include criminal referrals which, again, in this case might be dove tailing into what durham is doing. again, this is an administrative action. so they don't have the same teeth that a criminal investigative probe has like durham with grand jury usage, with tough questions put to witnesses and with a whole different kind of exposure for the people that are the subject of the report. >> neil: jim trusty, i always learn so much. thank you very much, my friend. have a good weekend. >> you, too neil. >> neil: impeachment heating up why does it seem in swing states for voters it's turning them off?ph selfie-ing. and whatever this is. available to the public... never. smartdogs are not the answer. but geico has a simple tip. turn on "do not disturb while driving" mode. brought to you by geico. it is nice. his haircut is "nice." this is the

so we'll see how far he gets and then we'll see what john durham, the attorney, then needs to mop up. >> sean: is there any doubt, jason chaffetz, that premeditated fraud on a fisa court after multiple warnings, that it's not verified, we now know unverifiable, the basis, the bulk of information in the applications, that that was used to spy -- well, did not carter page's constitutional rights -- by an a candidate, a transition team, and a president. is there any doubt that that has to be the conclusion based on what we already know to be fact? >> you are correct. you talk about this for a long time and you are spot on. we've also had john ratcliffe and trey gowdy, who have been able to look behind the scenes and see the unredacted materials and they have come as close as they could possibly come to saying that. i think what is interesting about this report and where it goes next is that it spreads out into other departments and agencies, perhaps the dni, perhaps into the cia. that is why john brennan and clapper have been so vocal. i think they have a lot to worry about. that is wher

the evidence reportedly has been turned over to the prosecutor, john durham. this looks like a major preview of coming attractions.g remember, senator graham on this show last night told us definitively of the inspector general report on fisa abuse will be out on decembe december 9th. michael horowitz, the inspector general, will be before senator graham's committee on december 11th. according to our own investigative reporter sara carter, the durum probe has expanded to the same pentagon office that reported multiple contracts, that's right, to the spy step on how appropriate her to react to this and much more, utx news contributor, investigative reporter sara carter. this, to me come with c got lead because they know it's coming out anyway because now the horowitz report, anybody that is mentioned it it is getting an opportunity to see what is in it. >> that's right, shawn. that's what i've been told by a number of sources that release games from witnesses that had a chance to review the report. remember, only those witnesses can review the report. i did con

ainsley: john durham's investigation has turned into a full-fledged criminal investigation. is that why they discovered this law manipulated key documents. griff: that's a good question. we don't know for sure if that's why. it's not surprising to see it surface in what durham produces. it's going to be a very busy time in december. brian: usually i have to get coffee right now. can i hold you for one more question? griff: sure. brian: thanks. this person worked underneath peter strzok. that was left out of the "the washington post" story, wasn't it? >> well, listen, there are multiple news organizations reporting on this. as you know, this is a town that leaks a lot. that one of the things being alleged and that certainly would bring mr. strzok's name back into this long-running story. ainsley: it's interesting. "the washington post" originally reported that he did work under peter strzok or he or she did and then they retracted that a few hours later around midnight. steve: so we don't know. maybe it was wrong. ainsley: correct. or incorrect. steve: at the same time attent

attorney for connecticut john durham to broadly examine the government's collection of intelligence involving the president's campaign that effort initially was administrative review has turned into a criminal probe and u.s. attorney durham is casting a wide net and is following the facts where they may lead you are that i'm aware that there is an investigation that's as much as i'm aware and so to the extent any information resides in you in ukraine it's perfectly appropriate for the ukrainians to try to get to the bottom of that for the ukrainians to cooperate with with the united states through official channels to to share that information correct discuss can you say that want to get rugby pre-shared if you would restate the question of the extent ukraine has facts related to the run up of the 2016 election that are under. the u.s. attorney durham's probe ukraine should should cooperate with the united states and to the extent there ukrainians doing improper things the ukrainians ought to investigate that themselves correct this custard the ukrainian american relations are are very suppor

for with also allegedly gave the change document to john durham who is leading an investigation into the origins of the russia probe. a lot going on. >> the date, december 9th, thank you so much. senate judiciary committee chairman the graham, hand over documents tied to the bidens and ukraine. graham wants more details on any calls biden may have had with the ukrainian president about the firing of the top prosecutor and anything related to burisma, he was on the board. donald trump is accused biden of pressuring ukraine to protect his son from controversy. new calls for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to resign. he is now formally charged with fraud and breach of trust and accepting bribes in three different controversies. this as me -- this is the first time a sitting prime minister has been charged with a crime in israel. netanyahu denies the accusations calling them a witchhunt. supporters and critics held dueling protests in jerusalem as israel gears up for a possible third election this year. the navy is pausing review betty gallagher to determine if he should lose h

it's being held up partially because of john durham's new grand jury that exists for one reason only. because people are going to be indicted. >> he's in charge of the fisa abuse and the origins of spygate, whatever you want to call it, in the worst political scandal in this country's history. is anything being held up because of the vast scope of his investigation? >> it's been expand because he's going into other areas. he has gone back into the origins of the investigation. for those of us who know this business, if you are in counter-intelligence and you get a word that george papadopoulos said he heard something, that the russians had something. you know what you do? you go knock on his door within a week and ask him by the. where did he get it. they didn't do that. they disobeyed all the rules of a counter-intelligence investigation. >> it expanded because originally barr wanted durham to just look at the beginnings of crossfire hurricane. but they discovered from the devin nunes experience at the white house in march of 2017 that there has been massive, massive unmaskings of am