capital jonathan katz is with the think tank the german marshall fund of the united states and our correspondent in ukraine nick connolly good evening to you both jonathan firstly to you what struck you about the good evening testimony today from memory you have on of it the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. well 1st i just want to say that i had an opportunity to work with mushy ivana bitch and she's one of the one of america's top diplomats so there's deep deep disappointment in washington both sides of the aisle and her treatment and today's hearing where she again provided i think very telling testimony about an effort 12 to ouster a shadow effort by the trump administration to conduct policy that's not in the interest of the united states but to further donald trump's political own political agenda and so i think the testimony today particularly the moment where the chair of this committee adam schiff read out a tweet highlighting the president once again trying to intimidate mushy of honor which to me really highlights the challenge that we have and in washington i want to pick up on some

fund of the united states thank you so much thank you. this weekend in germany is marking the most significant event that led to its reunification it was 30 years ago this weekend that the berlin wall fell as part of special coverage of the 30th anniversary we'll take a look now at one of the city's most significant locations the brandenburg gate on the 9th of november 1989 thousands of germans gathered right there on the western side of the wall you for crowds clambered. on top of the wall as you can see which until then had been completely off limits for decades. and our political correspondent simon young is at the brandenburg gate simon this is the site of festivities of course tonight and tomorrow but you know the berlin wall as we saw it once cut right through the area where you're standing so how did the brandenburg gate become a symbol of unity rather than one of division well call of course the brandenburg gate is one of the most iconic symbols of the german nation it was built by the prussians later it was misused by the nazis a

fund of the united states that. public policy think tank 1st of all thank you so much for coming in we just heard some of those statements from chancellor merkel and from secretary of state. how surprised were you at what seems to be a rather conciliatory tone things haven't been going so well between the 2 countries likely wars and because everybody here is basking in the afterglow of 30 years of for the fall of the wall and this was a kiss and make up type and i heard the secretary of state speak in a way that any american secretary of state in the past could have delivered could have delivered a speech i think the word trump did not it wasn't even mentioned or maybe only once and he even left that alter ego ego of his at home so that previously had criticized the multilateral order for himself in criticizing you pump a 0 himself a different point pales showed up in berlin today let's talk more though about that relationship between germany and the u.s. as you mentioned the word trump may not have come up but the

for more i'm joined now by thomas kline a brawl coffee's the vice president of the german marshall fund of the united states. that's a public policy think tank 1st of all thank you so much for coming in we just heard some of those statements from chancellor merkel and from secretary of state. how surprised were you with what seems to be a rather conciliatory tone things haven't been going so well between the 2 countries likely i wasn't because everybody here is basking in the afterglow of 30 years of for the fall of the wall and this was a kiss and make up type and i heard the secretary of state speak in a way that any american secretary of state in the past could have delivered could have delivered a speech i think the word trump did not it wasn't even mentioned or maybe only once and he even left that alter ego ego of his at home so that previously had criticized the multilateral order yes or himself in criticizing him selfe a different point peo showed up in berlin today let's talk more though about that relationship between germany and the u.s. as you mentioned the word trump may no

fund, on this topic i tell them don't write off what we're saying is united states scare mongering or in this case d.o.d. scare mongering about china. don't think we're overstating the problem. there are serious issues out there and we've been asleep at the switch for quite some time. we're finally waking up in the past couple of years. and the national defense strategy is what has pointed d.o.d. in the right direction saying we're now in an era of great power competition. china is our greatest competitor, russia number two. and we need to be prepared for high intensity conflict across five domains of warfare, five domains, no longer three. that's where we're headed and we need your help to get there. >> thank you, sir, so much, very much. >> thank you. >> please thank the secretary. [ applause ] >>> weeknights this week we're featuring american history tv programs as a preview of what's available every weekend on c-span3. tonight beginning at 8:00 eastern, historian and author phillip greenwald gives a talk on boston's involvement in the revolutionary war. this is part of a day-long

evelyn farkas, a senior resident fellow at the german marshall fund and an msnbc national security analyst. ewe gain robinson is back with us, as well. mimi, explain to viewers and to all of us readvising testimony that seems like a bit of a stretch to not remember something like that since the first time he testified, that was the whole topic. >> yeah. it's not plausible, it's not believable that he did not remember these major events. you don't remember, you know, what you were wearing when you had a certain conversation, but you don't forget that you had the conversation with someone close to the president of ukraine about withholding military aid. so this is, in my view, look, he realized he got caught. he has good lawyers. they said, you know what? we have time to fix this. you do get a do-over here under congressional rules. and he took it. he's still reluctant, but he did the right thing. so this is his way of saying to future prosecutors who might scrutinize his testimony, look, yeah, maybe i lied, but i did the right thing. don't prosecute me. there's a pretty good chance that is

defense fund. so the line goes from roger -- from marshall to roger to you to elizabeth. and i hope beyond. so what did you learn from justice marshall about the law and about judging? >> you know, mostly what you learn from justice marshall was how people can advance justice. and i don't think anybody has ever done so much of it as he has. i mean, i view him as the greatest lawyer of the 20th century, in part because he did the most justice in his time. and in part because he was just a great lawyer. he was miraculously skilled at all kinds of different things. you know, you don't see lawyers like this anymore, people who were great trial lawyers, people who were great appellate lawyers. he did criminal cases, he did civil cases. one day he was arguing before the supreme court and the next day he was on a train down to some small segregated down in the deep south where, you know, he was fighting to defend somebody for -- a lot of the cases he did were death penalty cases in front of all-white juri

before he was a justice. >> he was at the legal defense fund so the line goes from roger to, from marshall to roger toyou too elizabeth . and i hope beyond. so what did you learn from justice marshall about the law and about judging -mark. >> mostly what you learn from justice marshall was how people eacan advance justice. and i don't think anybody's ever done so much of it. as he has. i view him as the greatest lawyer of the 20th century. in part because he did the most justice in his time. and in part because he was just a great lawyer. he was miraculously skilled in all kinds of different things. you don't see lawyers like this anymore. people who were great trial lawyers, people who were great appellate lawyersaw. in criminal cases, civil cases. he did, one day he was arguing before the supreme court and the next day he was on a train down to some small segregated town in the deep south where he was fighting to defend somebody and a lot of the cases he did were death penalty cases in front of all-white juries and it was hard to win cases. and in everything he did whether it's a case fo

lot of students and we're also doing that in a cost effective way because we're not then having to fund transportation costs. >> right. so for example, thurgood marshall, they do happen to have one class on campus, and then they have another class that's on campus because they need those facilities. and then, at fort mason, they have one right there. a lot of the schools are moving more and more towards wanting the classes at their high school because they're able to provide more support for their students. >> so if there's a way to also make that visible, i think that also gets into the outreach piece, which is what -- we just shopped for high schools. our daughters are ninth graders now, but even know about c.t.e. programs, you have to do reach on each -- research on each individual school. and even when i was calling schools, i'd say what's going on here. and sometimes staff would know about what's going on, or they'd tell me you have to do the research. so if that research is on-line, and i have to do the research, that's inequitable. i'm wondering, though, are we working directly w

to unfreeze the funds to help defend the ukraine against russia. mr. bolton, who left the white house in september, has emerged, over weeks of interviews, as the single most important witness who has evaded house democrats as they build a case against the president and the abusive powers of the presidency by withholding vital military assistance until it delivered investigations that the president wanted. the new disclosure only making clear the significance of john bolton's potential testimony. your reaction? guest: two things that i would like to note. one is -- and i do not know why this is not dispositive -- the president of ukraine and ambassador taylor, in the three meetings with the president of ukraine, testified that this is true. never mentioned it. never knew that he was being squeezed. if you are unaware that you are being squeezed, then i think also the time one would say one is not being squeezed. that the president may have intended that is of no great interest to me and is not impeachable. people's intentions are not the same thing is p

marshall, for five minutes. thank you, mr. speaker. usda secretary sonny purdue announced market payments to help with the impacts of ongoing trade disruptions. president trump is delivering on promise to help agriculture producers while he works to open markets and deliver free, fair, and reciprocal trade for farmers and ranchers. while these payments serve as a solution, a band-aid, president trump and others day and to fight both night to secure a deal with china. i want to give a special thanks to state executive director for kansas, my good friend, david shim. the men and women of county offices worked for the payments. thank you, david, for all you do for kansas agriculture. mr. speaker, this week house democrats joined the public partisan ase of their impeachment sham which continues unjust, pletely unfair, and unprecedented manner. here are at least four indisputable pieces of evidence showing no high crime, no misdemeanor committed by the president. bun, the july -- number ne, the july 21 call summary, it shows no evidence of

founded in 1940 under thurgood marshall, eliminating racial discrimination in education, krifl justice. civic participation and economic justice. for nearly 80 years lbf has caught for equal protection for all persons, consistent with the amicus opposition to all forms of discrimination, lds has a strong interest in assuring the government for equal protection principles in its policies related to immigrants. the administration's decision to rescind the daca program is being challenged on grounds it violated the administrative procedures act, given the unexplained about-face in way we see as being arbitrary and capricious, but we also see an alternative grounds for keeping daca and that is that the rescission was motivated at least in part by discrimination against immigrants of color and in particular, latino-- latinx persons and the over-- and there was an amicus brief focused on the immigration issue and we feel that racial discrimination was a motivation for the decision. first, the rescission of daca would disproportionately impact latinos and people of mexican american heritage.

bolton sought to marshall mr. trump's cabinet secretaries and top national security advisers to convince the president that it was in the united states' best interest to unfreeze the funds to hp

bolton sought to marshall mr. trump's cabinet secretaries and top national security advisers to convince the president that it was in the united states' best interest to unfreeze the funds to help ukraine defend itself against russia. mr. bolton emerged with mr. trump unmoved and instructed the aid to look for new unts to get those officials in front of mr. trump. the testimony tying trump directly and seemingly unilaterally to the decision to withhold military assistance comes against the backdrop of more new testimony tying trump to the conditioning of military aid in exchange for investigations into biden. from the transcript of morrison's closed-door testimony released over the weekend about trump's reliance on e.u. by any chance gordon sondland to carry out his orders. the intel committee chairman adam schiff asks. sondland understood his responsibilities to be doing what the president asked him to do? morrison replies he related to me he was acting-he was discussing these matters with the president. schiff a

defend the funds to help the ukraine against russia. mr. bolton, who left the white house in september, has emerged, over weeks of interviews, as the single most important witness who has evaded house democrats as they build a case against the president and the abusive powers of the presidency by withholding untilmilitary assistance delivered investigations that the president wanted, the new disclosure only making clear the significance of john bolton's potential testimony. your reaction? guest: two things that i would like to note. one is -- and i do not know why this is not dispositive -- the president of ukraine and ambassador taylor, in the three meetings with the president of ukraine, testified that this is true. never mentioned it. never knew that he was being squeezed. if you are unaware that you are being squeezed, then i think also the time one would say one is not being squeezed. the president may have intended -- that the president may have intended that is of no great interest to me and is not impeachable. people's intentions ar

in closing, the thurgood marshall college fund named after the titanic leader, civil rights leader and supreme court justice -- on a personal note, i was proud to have thurgood marshall's son, john marshall, serve as my secretary of public safety when i was governor. thurgood marshall college fund wrote a letter to senate leadership that even in the week since this program has expired at the end of september, campuses have already notified employees that their positions and programs might be terminated as of september 30, 2020, if not sooner. in the letter, they note these are real jobs held by people who interact with students every day and programs that play a critical role in graduating and retaining students in stem fields, among other disciplines. as a former governor, mr. president, you and i share that experience. i know that the budget-creating process begins well in advance of the budget becoming effective, and for these minority-serving institutions, most of whom do not have significant endowments, they face unique fiscal challenges, and they count on this mandatory funding,