>> well, part of it, chris, is lindsey graham is in for it for lindsey graham. he's not doing it for president trump or the people of south carolina. he's doing it for himself. he wants to be relevant. for him being relevant in washington, d.c. is the most important thing. for me being relevant in south carolina is the most important thing. there are people in this state suffering every day. there was an article today that talked about north charleston being the city with the highest rate of evictions in the nation. there's so many things, we have rural hospitals closing. that's why we are building a movement focused on the people of south carolina. this is senator we have who hasn't been back home in the state in almost three years to do a town hall, and so i'm asking everybody, you want to join me to send lindsey graham home, join me. go to jamie harrison,.com because we are building a movement to change the leadership we have in the state. >> where are the votes, where the issues you think you would contrast with the record graham has amassed particularly in

but lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell, they want it short. it suggests perhaps they don't trust what might happen if there were a longer trial. but it's been intensely political the entire time. and i think it's -- it is surprising to see. now, there's norm when you talk about a trial of this kind that you would have a fair trial, that it will be deliberative, that views would be aired, evidence would be aired, that it would be taken very seriously. and those making a decision would not come out in advance of that kind of trial. but this is a different political situation. and i think what we have seen is the republicans very much on the offensive when it comes to capturing and controlling that narrative because they know it has high stakes politically and in the public imagination. . >> right. and to your point, republicans call the impeachment inquiry from the house democrats a sham. and it kind of seemed like they might be making the senate trial the same. because when they took the oath, it was during an impeachment to be an impartial jur

we're watching a coming traction today in lindsey graham. we're hearing the attack that we're likely to see in the senate trial during impeachment on the origins of the case. if you make that go away, if you undermine how the fbi worked this case, you make the whole russian problem go away. it's not accurate. it's not going to work. but we're seeing a trailer, basically, on what the senate trial could look like. >> what i was thinking was you can't make ukraine go away. to the extent they're trying to reinforce, to frank's point, they've just been out to get trump. this really has nothing to do. there's nothing to see here about trump's abuse of power. what we should be doing is looking at our own law enforcement, our own national intelligence services, our own origins of democracy. i think we all agree law enforcement needs checks and balances. we need to ensure that law enforcement is not abusing its considerable power. that's why we have mr. horowitz sitting in that seat. what he has come to tell us, we're not even hearing. >> as soon as

it's for lindsey graham -- the most important thing and person to lindsey graham is lindsey graham. he's looking for political relevance. i hear it all the time from democrats, republicans and independents in the state. what happened to lindsey graham? what happened is he saw his political fortunes will be tied to the president. he's going to do and say anything that he can in order to stay relevant, to stay important, to get re-elected. that's sad. he epitomizes what people hate in politics. they want someone with more conviction, a spine who will stand up and do the right thing even when the politics doesn't say it's the best thing to do for politics. that's what i'm going to bring to the people of south carolina. someone who has character and integrity. i grew up in rural south carolina, the son of a single mom with my grandparents. they taught me the importance of having character, integrity and keeping a promise. he can't keep his oath of office. >> leaning with your role on the dnc, there was something last night in the debate that was impossible to ignore. you heard it from a

this was lindsey graham back in 1998. and here he is back in 1998. >> i know what people want to do with this case. i know they want to get it over. i know many of them don't want the president to be impeached. but i have got a duty far greater than just getting to the next election. the problem is that i am expecting the other side to engage the facts, and they haven't. and i am just blown away by that. >> i'm going to play just one more for the congresswoman. here's another sound bite of lindsey graham back in 1998. >> some people have said i won't vote for impeachment. some house members have said i will not vote for an impeachment. let me tell you, please don't say that until you understand what you're voting on. members of the senate have said i understand everything there is about this case and i won't vote to impeach the president. please allow the facts to do the talking. people have made up their mind in a political fashion that will hurt this country long term. >> and yet in 1998, i'm old enough to remember that

you're the one that did this interview with lindsey graham. a lot of revealing stuff in there especially about he is going to throw away any ability to be impartial here. what else did he tell you? >> well, lest anyone think that the international audience, particularly that one here at the doha forum today, but anyone around this region isn't interested in the impeachment inquiry, let me tell you, i cannot overstate how eager this audience was to hear about what was going on and lindsey graham's thoughts. it was an audience from all over the region and the world. i also put it to lindsey graham, what he thought the world should know about donald trump. let's remember, he wasn't always donald trump's greatest admirer. he's a staunch ally now, of course. so i wondered whether he thought the world misunderstood the u.s. president. have a listen to this. >> he's very curious. he asks a lot of questions. he wants to know how things work and what makes people tick in the world. have i come to be so close? we play golf. we have a lot of fun. he's tr

it's going to be between lindsey graham, god and the ballot box. somebody has to vote him out. >> i'm going to play another one. take a listen. >> everything i do during this, i'm coordinating with white house counsel. there will be no difference between the president's position and our position as to how to handle this. >> these guys have made up their minds before the trial. >> you know, keir, katie beat me to the punch. i was going to read the oath as well. lindsey graham will have to raise his right hand and swear to do impartial justice. when i saw that clip of lindsey graham basically promising to be unfair, it makes me sick to my stomach. until recently, i spent 30 years in courtrooms, both military and civilian arguing cases to juries. when i come to learn from those experiences is that jurors and the american people are justice loving people. they want a process that is fair, that is just and honorable and that has integrity to it. they want the guilty held accountable and the innocent exonerated. when you see lindsey graham saying i'm not

it gives us a lot of context into why the president is pushing back so hard lindsey graham's making the argument that we saw back in the previous impeachment that i covered back in the late ninety's when it involved president clinton that it came as the culmination of an investigation by the independent counsel kenneth starr and this tie we did have the president in best a gaited donald trump by special prosecutor but the conclusion of that 2 and a half year investigation was that the president had not colluded with russia but there was also the sort of lingering thing that was left out there and that was whether or not the president had obstructed justice and so it was almost passing the baton if you will to the u.s. congress so notable in all of this is the fact that we're now talking about congress preparing to impeach the president but it's not for obstruction of justice it has nothing to do with that investigation instead it is a obstruction of congress charge which is a very different charge and a very different set of allegations and so that's what lindsey graham is pointing

lindsey graham. but he doesn't do it anymore because he cares more about washington, d.c., and being relevant in d.c. than he cares about being relevant here in south carolina. we are helping people address the issues that they're dealing with and lindsey graham is up in washington trying to be important. >> why do you think lindsey graham changed? went from being a tough critic of the president and obviously a good friend and ally of john mccain to being the exact subpoena sit overt-- opposite o past two years. why do you think that changed? >> it goes down to relevance. lindsey graham had an interview in "the new york times" early part of this year. he said the two most important things to him was getting elected and being relevant. he didn't even utter the two words south carolina in the interview. what's important to me is helping people. we started a program here in south carolina called harrison helps. we go all across the state of south carolina rolling up our sleeves, helping people address t

martin did catch lindsey graham on his way in. he didn't say much but did respond to a question that he does have confidence in fbi director christopher wray but added you'll have to ask president trump. that comes after he served up that tongue lashing via twitter, saying he wasn't entirely sure which report christopher wray read or that he had the attitude to fix the problems within the fbi. republican also key in on that when this hearing begins. >> over the last 72 hours, this seems to have actually -- they seem to have everything that's been a response to everything that the democrats have done. they announced impeachment charges, michael horowitz report. bill barr is out there. articles are introduced. horowitz testifies today. on one hand they get exactly what they want. they create sort of confusion about mueller, the obsession to get trump. that story is out there. it seems as if this is part of a strategy the way the trump administration has used the government to respond to impeachment. >> last night in hershey, pennsyl

it says far more about lindsey graham than anything about this trial. and lindsey should remember, and he knows darn well this is a serious and solemn obligation. the charges against the president that the house has put together are very, very serious. and to say you won't look at the facts, look at the evidence makes no sense. we want the facts to come out. we don't want to have a dilatory trial. we don't want to have a biased trial. we don't want a trial where extraneous issues of their side or our side are brought in. what we've asked for this morning is really guided by joe friday from drag net for those who remember him, just the facts, ma'am. and that's what we want. the facts. the four witnesses we've asked for are the documents we've asked for are directly dispositive on what the actual facts were. now, the house came up with a whole lot, but there's some of my republican colleagues who say these charges are serious but i'm not sure there's enough to evidence. that's why these people should come. i hope this letter i've sent now to every one of

>> lindsey graham is speaking to south carolina voters. he wants to avoid any sort of primary whether now or in the future at all costs and his numbers among republicans have gone up significantly since he became more supportive of the president. it's not advising that he is fastening himself as an impartial juror and i think viewers wouldn't be surprised to see many senators actually be quite impartial heading into this, but there is a significant enough group that we don't know enough about yet that could make this trial interesting and could have consequences as it still plays out. >> is it a smart move by senator graham? >> well, i think what senator graham and senator mitch mcconnell the majority leader are trying to do is send a message to donald trump. you want this to be a short process. we can control it if it's a short process. while i think it's completely unethical what lindsey graham is doing and what mitch mcconnell is doing, frankly, they are just trying to get to the president and say, keep it short because we won't be able

lindsey graham nodded to it. he made the ninet russia interfered and n ukraine. he made the point that it was legitimate to be concerned at the time they started this. but that's not beingy echoed b everybody across the party. robert: that's all the time we have. ank you for joining us. make sure to watch our "washington week"ra. we will discuss all the trade news. you can find it on ourl soc media accounts and on our website tonight and all weekend long. i'm robert costa. good night . ♪ announcer: corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by -- >> all right, richard, this might be the only way to clear your'same. >> the a bomb in centennial park. you have 30 minutes.y >>son is not the bomber. he saved people's lives. >> i do wanto help y'all. >> there is a bottom inal centen park. you have 30 minutes. >> the f.b.i. is looking at richard jewel. >> this kid's getting railroaded. >> you ready to start fighting back. >> "richard juul" a clint eastwood film. >> additional funding is provided by -- ku and patria yuen through the yuen foundation committed t

i want to play you the two lindsey gram grahams there was the graham in 1999 and the lindsey graham of today. this is on the question of whether or not witnesses should testify in the impeachment trial. take a listen. >> the idea of not being able to call witnesses is crucial. how would you like to do this show without guests? what if you sat here and read transcripts based on questions you asked? your ratings would go down. >> if there's a witness request by anybody, i'm going to say no. i want this to end quickly. i am going to make my decision based on the trial record established in the house. >> the constitution never envisioned the house being able to impeach the president and dictate the terms of the trial in the senate and hold them back at a time of their choosing. that does create a constitutional extortion mechanism that's dangerous for the country. i don't know what's driving this idea. my speculation is that there's buyer's remorse, that the foundation of impeachment is shaky. >> i mean, there is probably no better example of pure flip 180 hypocrisy of lindsey graham. the

that is a key thing that of course lindsey graham, in defense of the president, now the chair of the judiciary committee and the president on the stump are seizing on. what they're ignoring is overarching conclusion of this very comprehensive inspector general report there was no political motivation, that the whole lisa page and peter strzok business had nothing to do with it. lisa page had no supervisory role in the origins of russia investigation which became the mueller probe, that the fbi was justified in its original decision to investigate the russian connection, possible connections to the trump campaign and in particular, what william barr said to our colleague pete williams which was completely not really relevant when william barr is seizing on the fact that's doesn't believe there was a predicate, a legal justification for launching that probe in the first place and that the trump campaign should have been warned. in fact, the trump campaign was adequately warned by john brennan and others at the time, during the transition and when donald trump was the candidate when he

. >> and lindsey graham will keep turning it up and up and up. i am going to take a lot of antacids. >> i want to know the senate, will they come in wearing maga hats for the trial? >> we have a bottle of trump vodka, trump water. >> he is saying i have already made up my mind. they all have to take an oath saying they will be impartial. i know democrats say trump is guilty. but i think you need to go through the courtesy of the constitution of saying i support trump, i like him, i play golf with him, but i will try to be impartial as i consider the evidence. and they're not even bothering to do that. mcconnell of course has joined the trump defense. >> i look forward to mitt romney's eventual speech about how what the president did is wrong. >> after the trial concludes. >> we can all stand in the corner and face the wall for a few days. and then go back to being president. . >> he said it on sean hannity and to reporters after that. what do you make of what he said about this trial and the pretense of any sort of fairness now gone? >> well, it

are those senators making the same mistake lindsey graham made? othersn't speak for although i share the outrage about mcconnell is the leaders of the -- the majority leader in the senate, saying we will get this over with, we know he is not going to be convicted. he says i am working with the white house. we take an oath, i have never been in this position. we take an oath saying at the beginning of the trial, we will look at the evidence. i have strong feelings about the president. i supported impeachment. he did things nixon never did. but i don't know if it rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, to the level of conviction and removal, until i see the evidence. until i hear the prosecution in the house, the president's defense, then you make the decision based on the evidence. for the leader of the senate mitch mcconnell to say he is coordinating with the white house to make sure he is not isvicted and removed his, it part of this see no evil, hear no evil. i'm disappointed in my colleagues at their attitude that they don't want to

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here's senator lindsey graham a short while ago. >> i don't know where this goes, but i know impeachment will be over soon. i supported the mueller investigation, by the way, for those who care about domestic politics. i didn't know what trump had done with the russians. what have i come to believe? there is no collusion between the trump campaign and the russians. if you're not colluding with your own government, why do you think you're colluding with the russians. the president is not much of a colluder. so, the bottom line here is that mueller spent two years and $25 million looking at all things in russia and now we're impeaching the president of the united states. bipartisan people, no outside counsel involved, this thing will come to the senate and it will die quickly and i will do everything i can to make it die quickly. >> just wonder how quickly. let's do a little bit on procedure. there's a debate ongoing about how a trial should be held in the senate, including whether to have live witnesses. you don't support live witnesses, why? >> i want this to end as quick as possible for

. >>> and senator lindsey graham once call canned president trump a cook unfit for office. now he's one of his biggest defenders. i'm going to talk to the democratic candidate trying to unseat graham as senator from south carolina. and bucking president trump. tomorrow the republican governor of georgia is expected to fill an open senate seat with someone president trump doesn't approve of. setting off tension with the white house and trump allies. we're going to begin with the impeachment report and what it says about devin nunes, the ranking member on the intel commit canny. >> i think it is deeply concerning that at a time when the president of the united states was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on a political rival, that there may be evidence that there were members of congress complicit in that activity. >> i want to bring in now people to help us in this conversation. good evening to one and all. the intel report says a seen krr u.s. officialinis including the vice president, acting chief of staff, secretary energy were knowledgeable of or active partic

garret where will you be standing when lindsey graham and ted cruz do that? >> an interesting question. this shows you the absolute vice-like grip that donald trump has on the republican party. i saw this in 2018 when i was out, covering the campaign. there is no appetite, none, among republican primary voters especially, but even core general election for trump agnostic republicans. mitt romney in utah, who has his own reputation, wholly separate from that in a state that's always been a little bit confused about what to do with drch. what you see here are two republicans who perhaps, and by virtue of having run against him, realized it sooner than their brethren, that is what the republican party demands now, is this unquestion iing loyalty to this president. this doesn't get better in the minds of republican voters than it does. martha mcsally in arizona, cory gardner in colorado have to make decisions, do they want to try to be as much like indifferential to this president as possible or go their own way? i think the numbers will tell them to hue to trump

>> i have a lot of respect for lindsey graham. he and i have for the uniform. i have known him for a number of years but i disagree with him on this part because adam schiff, we know, already lied to the american people about meeting with the whistleblower. what we will find out, we subpoena his phone records and force them to testify bring hunter biden and joe biden to testify, the whistleblower attorney to testify, i believe there is a lot of reason to believe we are going to find out this was coordinated for political purposes, damaging sitting president has he goes into an election year and that is what we need to make sure never happens again. this isn't about me or lindsey graham or donald trump, this is about making sure the country never goes through the hell we have gone through in the past year because of the actions of nancy pelosi, adam schiff and others in the democrat party. carley: thanks for waking up early. 19 after the hour. theft on the rise at home depot. what is to blame? the opioid epidemic, the outraged claim and the pushback from the ret

that's lindsey graham's committee. he'll join us in a minute. tonight, the stereotype doesn't slow down. the republicans are expected to draft two democrats are expected to draft impeachments against trump for what question mike nothing! i want to point out specific pages because i think we have a predicate. the first warrant its unverifiable source to now we know that even steele thought had no credit ability, and steele, he didn't believe his own report. as i look at pages 186 to 190, when you get to hear, what do we know that's different here? >> you can argue that there is a legal predicate to start the investigation, it doesn't really matter to me. what i'm here to tell you and the american people, if it started legitimate, it became criminal pretty quick. here's what i'm going to say to horwitz. do you agree with me that in january 2017 after the sub source told the fbi and department of justice everything in the dossier is a bunch of b.s., that's when it became the criminal they told the court that they were truthful and credible. at that

is the president right or is lindsey graham right? >> so i'm not going to say who is right. i will say this, i understand that desire to have their own chance to get their own back, all right, but in politics sometimes you got to make decisions with your head over your heart and one of the problems with that, it gives legitimacy to what has been illegitimate process and i would argue the senate would send a stronger message by saying let's have a motion to dismiss, we will not treat seriously impeachment proceeding held in secret that leaked stuff and didn't give president's counsel or republicans right to participate or call witnesses. >> i don't think i have to tell you this, we have usmca on the launch pad, china deal phase one ready, great job numbers, great manufacturing numbers and the president actually is doing the best he can and seeing break with iran. arguably our number one enemy in the world. a few things going right for him. kimberly strassel, thank you. barack obama has shows on netflix, hillary clinton is doing content for hulu, why does her documentary look

my friend senator lindsey graham refers to the whole thing as a crock. what it boils down to is we may interfere with some tee times here, but we ought that stand up for the demeanor, the history and the tradition of the senate in terms of doing this in a proper way. >> brennan: so you don't want a short tile? >> i think what we ought to do as we did 20 years ago, let's have senator mcconnell sit down with senator schumer. trent lott sat down 20 years ago, and start this proceeding in the proper bipartisan way. that hasn't happened yet. i don't know what senator mcconnell is waiting for. margaret, let me tell you what happened 20 years ago, they decided, trend lot, that the entire senate, all 100 members would go to the old senate gallery and sit down together. we realized at that moment we were embarking on a moment that would be captured in history. this impeachment trial of bill clinton. and you have interesting alliances for him. ted kennedy of massachusetts comes together with phil graham of texas to talk about the procedures during impeachment. the

but i want to see lindsey graham question adam schiff in senate trial. that actually would be worthwhile and i think lindsey graham it needs to participate in a very big way. remember, he was had an impeachment manager in the the 1990s. you know there was a speak ere of the house who didding nothing and his three yearses -- paul ryan but unless chuck had grassley former chairman return to the post, i mean, he'll be a doing nothing chairman of the judiciary at a time of -- you know, open warfare by the democratic party without response from anyone in the senate. it is, it is -- to say the least disappoint. >> what we are frustrated, however, the am of federal judges that this person -- that the senate has put through is tremendous. >> no i understand. this president has historic achee. but that isn't the point. the response has to assure that the second term is also historic. >> david thanks so much. david great to see you president of citizens united up next nancy pelosi's message today to her caucus about about the dems sham impeachment process. mous --

that is lindsey graham's committee. he'll join us in a minute. tonight to the democrats impeachment hysteria, that t doesn't slow down. "washington post" reported, democrats are expected to draft two articles of impeachment against trump, for what? nothing party chairman of that committee, senator lindsey graham, joins us now. senator, i want to point out some very specific pages in this because i think we might actually have the predicate for a conspiracy. now i believe actually the first warrant, because it's unverifiable, and its sub source was somebody that we now know even steele thought had no credibility, and steele, you know, even said, you know, he did not believe his own report, he could not verify it. as i look at pages 186-190, i find here, when you get to warrens two, three, and four, what do we know that is different here? >> you can argue, if you would like, that there is a legal predicate to start the investigation. it doesn't really matter to me. what i'm here tome tell you and the american people, if it started legitimate, it be

there were others like lindsey graham that said the same type of thing showing they won't be impartial. i think things will change. but if they don't, the senate will lose. the united states will lose. trump may get off. trump will get off. but the reputation of the senate and our system of government is at risk and i don't think mitch mcconnell will want to contribute to it but he very well might. >> one of the things that you want is witnesses to testify in the senate. that is very clear. senator mcconnell today -- >> that is true. >> -- seemed to leave the door open in talking about the clinton model of impeachment he would like to mirror this time around. let me play what you said on fox news. >> you listen to the opening arguments, you have a written question period, and at that point, in the clinton trial, we had a decision about which witnesses to call. we haven't ruled out witnesses. we've said let's handle this case just like we did with president clinton, fair is fair. >> we haven't ruled out witnesses. what do you say to that? >> well, he hadn't ruled them out, but at the sa

one of them lindsey graham, the same lindsey graham will be in the senate as a juror in this case. >> that's an interesting twist. another question from a viewer right now is is there protection against double jeopardy in an impeachment trial, and can the same person be impeached twice by the house? >> legally, yes. it's never happened the same person has been impeached twice. double jeopardy applies in criminal cases, not to impeachment. of course there are political considerations. it would be difficult to impeach the same person twice especially on a new clarj. if there's new conduct it's possible. whether or not a senate acquits or convicts a person can be prosecuted after being impeached. there's no double jeopardy problem there. >> we'll see you back next hour for more viewer questions. you can of course submit your own if you have questions for elle at cnn.com/opinion and of course find his cross exam column there. >>> we have some breaking news i want to get to right now. sources telling cnn that representative jeff van drew's staff is quitting en masse. this comes the freshma

lindsey graham was on his way over and we just learned -- >> bill: we believe the newest republican will be there as well. former democratic congressman from new jersey. >> sandra: the news continues. we'll see you tomorrow morning. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> we've got a busy hour. fox news alert on this new fallout over how democrats historical vote to impeach president trump at the house and senate now seem to be in a collision course of the process. nancy pelosi has suggested democrats may wait to send their articles of impeachment to the senate over concerns of a republican led upper table is incapable of holding a fair trial. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell says democrats are afraid to send impeachment articles to the senate because their case is so weak. >> looked like the prosecutors are getting cold feet. in front of the entire country. second guessing whether they even want to go to trial. they said impeachment was so urgent it could not wait for due process but now they are content to sit on their hands. this is really comical. >> however, pelosi just a short tim

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and i think lindsey graham needs to participate in a very big way. remember, he was an impeachment manager in the 1990s. lou: you know, there was a speaker of the house who did nothing in his three years, paul ryan. there is now a chairman of the senate judiciary committee who, unless chuck grassley, the former chairman, returns to the post, i mean, he will be a do-nothing chairman of the judiciary at a time of, you know, open warfare by the democratic party without response from anyone in the senate. it is, it is to say the least disappointing. >> we are frustrated. however, the amount of federal judges that this person, that the senate has put through is tremendous -- lou: no, i understand. this president has historic achievements, but that isn't the point. the response has to assure that the second terminals historic. david, thanks so much. >> thank you. lou: david bossie, president of citizens united. >>> up next, joe biden's campaign in a bizarre new stage, imagine that. we'll tell you how the day went. attorney harmeet dhillon fresh from the wh

there senator lindsey graham wants the charade to be over as soon as possible. >> what i'd like to see this over as soon as possible. i don't want to give it any legitimacy because it is a crock. my goal is to end this as soon as possible for good of the country. it is danger to the presidency to legitimize this. i am not interested in witnesses. this is a sham, crock, i don't want to legitimize it, i want to get it over with. >> graham probably is not alone. before it gets embarrassing and cost them an election, congressman mike johnson joins us from the room to our cameras, he represents louisiana. made a lot of sense trying to make progress, congressman, saw you talking all night and all day. do you think your point is getting across that you don't buy either impeachment articles? >> you know, when i used to litigate cases, brian, i could gauge how we were doing by looking at faces of opposing counsel. i'm watching the countenance on the face of these democrats. i think they know they are losing this, losing the faith of the american people. they know the entire charade, no merit to

so that is lindsey being lindsey. he is not the shy sharing his opinions with lindsey graham. and that could be an attempt to influence the president and have him go towards a short trial, not something that is drawn out and could potentially go on into february. >> all right. hans, thank you so much. fresh intrigue on the expected full house vote on wednesday. will there be defections? vulnerable democrats feeling the heat. one house democrat already going on record saying that he will oppose it. let's go to josh lieberman. and so with a welcome to you. so there are these reports out there that the house democrats are bracing for some defections in next week's vote. where does all of this stand, do we have a read on who is going where? >> key point here, is that republicans will get their desired talking point of being able to say that there is bipartisan opposition to the impeachment vote. because we now know that at least one of the vulnerable democrats, jeff van drew of new jersey, has said that he would vote against the impeachment articles. how much more will defect, we'

i have heard mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham. i will do whatever they wanted you. it doesn't matter. i wouldn't mind a long process because i would like to see the whistleblower who is a fraud who wrote a false report. i blew it up when i released the transcript of the call. gets up andm schiff i blew him up also because he went up in front of congress and he made a statement about what i said that was totally false. a long time after he made it, when he got caught, he said -- that was parity. parity. he is a crooked and corrupt politician and a disgrace. and because of the fact that he is in congress, he has immunity so we can't do anything. the whistleblower wrote a totally false statement. it is a fraud. then i said, who where is the informer? you know why he disappeared? because i released the transcript. had i not released the transcript, we would have had an informer, another whistleblower. where is the second whistleblower? we have breaking news -- look, much of the media is corrupt, not all of it. they are bad people, sick people, and they are corrupt. we a

i'm sorry about that your reactions to lindsey graham. >> so this couldn't be more off base. i was at the fbi at the time as the oig report indicates the idea of briefing the campaign about this experience, the decision was to not brief the campaign for the obvious reason that at that time the fbi did not know exactly who might be a subject of this new investigation. the president could be a subject. his seniors could be subject. it's investigations 101 that you don't brief potential subjects about the ongoing investigation and that is clearly why it wasn't done. the oig inquired, asked the fbi witnesses about that and that's just a non-issue. and so for -- and i heard a retired senior fbi official on this network earlier suggest that that was a problem. you know, frankly again. that's investigations 101. i'm surprised the senator would bring that up this morning. >> as we know here. these are live pictures where the inspector general, fine, we will bring it live. i want to play lindsey graham, a chairman, just moments ago on this question of whether ukraine interfered in the

senator lindsey graham coming up live, straight ahead. reacting to the impeachment trial and nancy pelosi's plans for the senate, sending articles or not. senate judiciary committee chairman reacting to the abuse at the fisa court. who will graham call to testify now that the i.g. report is out? what will he tell john brennan. ted cruz is with me, what he knows about altering of the documents at fbi. why he says john durham's investigation is now criminal. house gop leader kevin

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but now lindsey graham says i'm not going to ask for anybody's record. part of america, that he is talking about that once their pound of flesh because they feel like they have been victimized over and over and we play by the markets of rules. >> we said so many times the republicans are too nice. can you imagine if the republicans releasing phone records of the member of press and their colleagues to devin nunes, it would be outraged from every other major media outlet in the country. but not when it's a conservative. we still have a formal pending for andy mccabe -- and we not have had any judge. this is why middle america is outraged because there's two different sets of rules, one if your trump supporter in one if you support the left. andy mccabe has a criminal referral and they've done nothing with it. we need it in the american people deserve it. >> i want to be clear, not just criminal referral but the deputy attorney general in response to these cases going up and given the approval for the filing of the charges. what is taking so long, who is s

lindsey graham at the press conference yesterday compared what the fbi did to a prosecutor withholding dna evidence or withholding fingerprint evidence that exonerates somebody there trying to prosecute. i thought that was a good example because that point to how egregious what the fbi did. >> when it comes to what many have focused on in the release of the port interim report the p political motivation of this s activity what was said in the report about that? >> the report found there is no direct evidence of political biased and that means there was no documentary evidence and no testimonial evidence but also the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. here, just because we don't have another account, if this was not biased,d by political what was the reason and that's explanation everybody wants to know. if you look at an example of an fbi lawyer who doctored evidence in the carter page fisa, he was kicked off of robert mueller's team for a series of very bad into trump e-mails that he said around to his fbi friends. so you have to wonder what his motivation was. you ha

lindsey graham too says i'm not impartial. >> i completely agree with that. and i think going back to this point about what does it mean for the rule of law, remember that this is essentially the most powerful position not just in the country in the world but certainly the country, which means a lot of the members of congress when they were speaking yesterday were talking about their children. well, you know, we have a mother who is being prosecuted because she falsified her address to send her child to a better school. she's being prosecuted for that. yet donald trump doesn't have to be accountable according to the republicans for serious violations of our national security and endangering our elections for his own personal gain, that's something we should not tolerate. >> we live in the most punitive democracy in the world by far where people are run through a system with very little process and punished day in and day out and left to rot in jail cells for years. the most powerful person in the world should be held to some account. thank you so much. >>> ne