has been turning to china for supplies. so what's going on just a few weeks ago china was the epicenter of the coronavirus crisis the place where the outbreak began because it's suddenly gone from victim to savior well serbia's prime minister seems to think so just take a listen to this interview that she gave just recently with chinese television when we identified the 1st identified the 1st case of corner virus in serbia the fear of the people's republic of china was the 1st to approach offer help the support of china saves lives interview. i really am in turn the through. the procedure through to a direct more human to this steel friendship between china and serbia once all this is behind us after all the negative coverage associated with the outbreak in china that kind of praise is a stunning turn around. and and it puts beijing back on track in a much longer term project of building up its image and its influence around the world that china has been working quite hard even before the pandemic to improve its reputation

read what china owns us editors at bill does say that china should pay germany 150000000000 euros for damages caused by the corona virus pandemic when germany is not alone yesterday in the rose garden at the white house u.s. president don't trump said that beijing could have prevented the pandemic suggesting washington plans to seek damages from beijing when how and how much will that will be determined later i'm brant go from berlin this is the day. we are not happy with china we are not happy with that whole situation for that i would like to stress that us politicians are ignoring the facts and lying repeatedly. until there are a lot of ways you can hold them accountable we're doing very serious investigations as you probably know to this with the sole purpose of deflecting attention responsibility for the insufficient response and becoming prevention and control this home because we believe it could have been stopped at the source it could have been stopped quickly and it would have spread all over the world and we think that should have happened we would have been attempts by us

big economic footprint in china is benefiting china more than its that it thing africa a lot of countries are going into a lot of debt to pay for some of these big projects that mombasa to do to nairobi railroads for example could end up putting kenya into a lot of debt that they can't afford you know a lot of these countries are starting to say hold on a 2nd we're not getting the jobs from these projects because they're employing chinese to come over and do the job so there's been a lot of criticism of china split in africa and then when africans start seeing how africans are being treated in china yes you could have a very big backlash this could set back china's africa policy by by many years that terry your thoughts on that. no i don't think so i think good let's face the reality is we are all in this fight against coronavirus and the coronavirus does not discriminate against races all countries or ethnicities is so this is the common lesson we all need to bear in mind less k. united to fight against the coronavirus and as a by a by the rules of every cover man to every country as the

about china when china really is that they don't know all of their new wire us and then you jump in here i have to have to go to a hard break ok we're going to go to short break i'm out of that short break we'll continue our discussion on china bashing. this is a story about what happens auster a stray bullet kills a young girl in the streets. what happens to her family and daughters in florida the mother daughter is buried in a cemetery it really messes with your head what happens to the community the public was screaming for a scapegoat the police needed a scapegoat so why not choose a 19 year old black kid with a criminal record who better to pin this on than him and what happens in court b b b b. shot after shot as far as the side you feel. we don't know she'll just screw. the end of this trial unfortunately due to this still love no chill just. seemed wrong why don't we all just don't call. me. yet to shape out these days to come as a kid and indeed from an equal betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart when she's to look for common ground. welcome back to crossfire

about china when china released their general or their new wire us and then you jump in here i have to have to go to a hard break ok we're going to go to short break i'm out of that short break we'll continue our discussion on china bashing. style bananas used to put on the chimney on the last one to continue a little sponge that's them i am. not going to join that i desired to know. how much older the. local just to me. she still lives. on that show was still up. and you put it's not just pump it's almost unusable not a model so there is too stubborn to reach through the. door to just. one almost seemed wrong why don't we all just don't hold. any of these yet to shape out just they become educated and in gains from an equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing china bashing. ok i want to go back to how it sit in london one of the things i find very very interesting and i'm actually quite delighted about it is that now this least

china. soi people who have never been to china. so i couldn't say, it we cannot say it has originated from china. ambassador but me stop you there because i am confused by that answer because i am confused by that answer because it clearly is a new virus that originated somewhere it crossed according to all the immunologists and the virologists it crossed from animals to humans and there was a first case and then it spread. there is no doubt that the first case was in china. i wonder why you are telling me it spread over the world and people have caught it who have never been to china. that is clear because it has become a pandemic. but the question that matters is where did it start? i think this question is still up for a scientist to decide where is the first case. i read a report that the first case was reported in china, i am talking in china on the 27th of december. i talked to the local health authorities. but i read a report that some of the cases even for much earlier than that, we

china relations. ok let me go back to james in new zealand again it's go back now we started out the program. washington threatening china with consequences what does that really mean because after 40 years of coupling as they like to use the term interdependency and lead to states that the vast majority of americans like inexpensive goods that are in produce or are being produced in china because china is patrick in the world that it's not being made in the united states are right and that is an achievement of globalization i would agree hundreds of millions of people have been pulled out of poverty that's a good that's a plus as well however when we get to this pandemic and things go wrong you have to blame someone so is this process of decoupling going to be can become a reality and do you really think you really think business elites in the united states are going to go along with it sure they'll wave the flag and they'll point fingers and all that but they're not going to pull their factories out

russia or china? >> in my opinion it's china. and not just to the election process, but i think across the board, there's simply not comparison. jesse: last three years on saysed with russia but how many died from russia hacking campaign and how many american job were lost? china is a much bigger threat. they've stolen our factories and trade secrets, shipped deadly into our beautiful land and now we lost precious time while they covered up virus and said it wasn't contagious this is ten times worse than russia election interference and left is silent on china why? it rather blame the american president. >> tens of thousands of people who will die in the or have some hope have already died more are still going to die because of donald trump incompetence and lack of leadership. >> they'll kill people to stay in power. literally -- >> trump knew this pandemic was coming these additional deaths many of them are unnecessary. they're than competence they're death of science denial and guest of inequality. jesse: these people make me s

china's interest in hungary is nothing new or bomb hosted premier league could china in budapest 2 years ago hailing major investment in the country. it's part of a bigger picture of chinese outreach in central and eastern europe agreed the proven controversial. about $22.00 out. china came up with this idea of creating something that they called back then 16 plus one which was 16th century european central eastern european countries from the baltics to the balkans china were directly trade directly talking directly. interact with usenet shits and definitely there's real concern brussels that this is in fact an attempt to kind of weaken the european union and to deal with countries individually or in smaller blocs for his part hungary's viktor orbán seems more than willing to sidestep the european union he's just provoked outrage by adopting sweeping open ended powers to rule by decree in response to the coronavirus it's something that seems more reminiscent of china's form of government in 2015 he declared that instead of following in the footsteps of liberal western democracies hungar

david: for many women in china and elsewhere, but certainly china, you are a role model. how do you fulfill that role? do you speak to groups, tell women how to advance? how do take on that responsability? jean: first of all, i think we are all running and growing. i would not consider myself a role model, but i would consider myself someone who loves to share my own life experience. i have also experienced ups and downs personally and professionally. i think the best way is to share your life story without really telling people what to do. people will get inspired. david: your father is a very prominent person in the chinese business world and global business world, lenovo is a company he basically built. does he give you advice? jean: one piece of advice i got that benefited me for my whole life, he always said life is supposed to be hard. when we had our hiccups and the incidents, a lot of time it is frustrating, if you are helpless, like what happened last year. but i always remember my father telling me that life is supposed to be hard. i think that makes me more res

but yes, there is a time when the german advisors i very prominent in china and very important in china. >> the next question is online and might be the last question that it comes from a text from my buddy, dave walker. i would like to let the crowd know and the crowd watching online, dave has been a charge of our social media here at the museum for over four years, and this week is his final week here at tonight is is i know week texting me in the middle of these talks, and and i like everybody to get around of applause or dave walker for his great service and great work you at the museum. [applause] >> the question is, the battle of no mom hung. you cover in your book but could you explain the overall strategic significance of that? >> briefly a goes like this. for the japanese imperial army, the supreme and me was always russia or later the soviet union. they worked overtime on how the going to do with the situation because they knew they were outgunned and outnumbered to develop strategic operational and tactical doctrine also about how to fight and prevent against the soviets from

beyond china's basic capability. that's a very different story on chiang. what happened in 1937 it's the marco polo bridge incident which is a skirmish between chinese and japanese forces which through a chain of events is eventually going to lead to sustained combat for the next 8 years and when this initially breaks out chiang styeds that the hour has come where he must now strike and he can no longer ask for forbearance in policy of preparing for war. he look where is the fighting first broke out and that's northern china which has terrain that greatly disfavors the japanese and greatly disfavors the chinese. he believes that the correct place for the chinese to make the first stand is in fact, in shanghai where its crowded urban areas would maximize strength of small arms and minimize japanese strengths in fire power, mobility, air support and things like that. there's going to be this tremendous bat until shanghai which goes from august to november 1937. before it's over, 3 quarters of a million chinese troops a

china sea and east china sea neighbors. there season bumping and other incidents with japan, taiwan, philippines, indonesia and even malaysia. malaysia being a supporter of china's positions across the board. so we've got to be very careful. this is going to be a day-on-day thing because we have seen china take these aggressive positions with regard to almost all of its neighbors. and by the way, lou, china's diplomats are even talking about how kazakh substantiation an independent country to the west of china, really is a a part of the people's republic. we had a chinese diplomat say that the kazakhs wanted to be part of china. this is really bold, audacious, ludicrous, but this is the way chinese diplomats are thinking, and that's a real danger sign. lou: well, there's a danger sign there that expands exponentially because that would be an affront as well against russia. your thoughts about that. >> yes. right now this partnership between russia and china that i've worried about and others seem to be on hold. and partly i

and china both the u.s. and russia rather so beijing has beijing has made a very clear that it's not interested in a trial actually cautions on nuclear arms control since it sees itself as being a position where it's significant weight then the other 2 eating nuclear weapons powers and there's does every incentive for china to actually excel or a nuclear modernization program so not a priority. beijing certainly not a priority for the trump white house untrue do you see a connection between the increase in sort of nationalist rhetoric from many governments perhaps from the u.s. from some in eastern europe a little from china from other parts of the world as well as a correlation with that increase in military spending i do i think that randomly here more national stretch or can we see more nationalist chauvinism on one stage i think what that fuels is very often fear and there's a difference one industry which drives on thier it's the arms industry isn't an industry which is entirely based on their feeling o

i read a report that the first case was reported in china, in china, i am talking in china on the 27th of december. by dr zhang to the local health authorities. but i read a report that some of the cases even for much earlier than that, we read in the report by your newspapers yesterday, that your scientists, medical advisers even warned your government that there might be a virus. unknown to us much earlier, last year. i can say the first case was reported in china on december 27. i think there is no doubt experts believe the origin of the first outbreak, the first examples of this covid—i9 virus to be found in human beings came from wuhan and the surrounding area in china. i just wonder whether you accept that it is very important that we understand exactly what happened at the beginning of this outbreak, that we understand, frankly, what mistakes and missteps were made, which allowed the first outbreak to become a global pandemic. i think it is still debatable. i think we have to agree to disagree. i think it's first discovered in wuhan, in china, but i can't say it originated fro

what china is responsible for. whatever happened in wuhan -- it just strikes me -- you were talking about, we need an investigation. my question is where in the hell was the cia and nsa. why don't we know more about what is happening? what are we paying for? we don't know what china is doing. we don't know what russia is doing. we don't know what iran is doing. i wonder who these folks are spying on and surveilling and analyzing with the tens of millions of dollars we spend on our intelligence community. >> i would push back on that. my guess is the president has intelligence and he does know. there is a reason why the president put that travel ban into place when nobody else other than senator tom cotton was talking about it. and tom cotton didn't get a phone call from wuhan to tell him what was going on. he was probably reading and seeing things the rest of the senate wasn't paying attention to. my guess is they know a lot more but they can't say it. it would unearth -- i have been out there -- go ahead. lou: no,

in the united states when it comes to china how is china changed because of this pandemic. well i think china will change more profoundly. mainly because i think the whole nation cannot afford to be complacent and we need to be prepared against a 2nd the wave of the infections either domestically generated which is less likely or flooring imported and i think going forward until mankind has developed an effective vaccine probably we need to put everything into 2 modes the normal mold which we're more fair with and then the extra ordinary the emergency mode and we need to be able to shift from the 2 modes at any moment's notice because we cannot put lives on the people at risk that's exposed in the current virus pandemic now going forward also allow me to make one point i think politicians in the united states are barking in the wrong tree when they really want to get to the juggler why because the real competitiveness of the chinese economy was not just the cheaper labor cost for example it's that really very much upgraded infrastructure and all the brand new 4 g. of 5 g. a

he has focused all his energy, but they are focused on china, china, china. where will that lead us? is that dangerous? think it is dangerous. we do not know where china is headed, and there are a number of possible futures. that we endpposing up closer to that. i look at covid as an accelerant for things that were in the works, and accelerant for american companies that were thinking about supply chains will now think about them even more, not just because of the trade war, but will think about them even more carefully. are we too reliant on other countries? it will accelerate worrying trends in china. part of our success was our who they arenitor coming in contact with, where a push inoing, and china of where xi jinping was going as well. if you are a tech company, it is an accelerant in a good way from economy to aional more open one. that is pushing china in the direction they want them to go. likehave problems overhanging debt, and dependence on the old state. sec. kerry: we did have, president obama put a team in their, we had people on the ground speci

china sea and the east china sea has been stepping up the tempo of provocations. those provocations have been against taiwan, japan, the philippines, vietnam, indonesia and even malaysia which has traditionally been a friend of china. so we've got to be concerned that the chinese military is now out of its leash and might do something extremely belligerent starting, perhaps, history's next great conflict. lou: well, the good news is that president trump has dispatched more ships to the area to be certain that we have force security as well as a strong peps presence. strong presence. gordon chang, as always, good to talk with you. >>> well, president trump has just wrapped up a meeting about roping the economy. we'll be talking with white house press secretary caylee mci neighborny here next. also the university of nebraska's dr. mark rupp joins us on the hopeful prospects for the antiviral drug remdesivir and much more. we'll be right back. stay with us, please. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from anyone else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase

china has a surplus for medical equipment. china is not entirely altruistic. china's economy is badly hurt due to the last two months of lockdown. china is eager to label the economy and chinese companies that grab the market share. we have also known there are reports from spain and turkey about the test kit they ordered from china that are highly unreliable, less than 30% and they recalled 600 masks they ordered from china and a quality issue is not boosting china's image or regaining its credibility. shannon: more questions than answers with regard to china but we are watching what appears to be another hot spot with regard to this virus, great to have you both. plasma from covid-19 survivors as soon as this friday. medical experts weigh in on signs of hope and ask your questions live. when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamles

it's not that china puts china's interest first. but for 30 years america has put china's interest first at the expense our own industry, businesses and economy. what i think the pandemic has shown to everybody, this should be a wake-up call. this is the kind of chinese world order they have in mind. the chinese have been going around the world saying democracy is finished. free markets. america is a thing of the past. our system is better. follow us. this is the cold, dirty dark secret of wait would looks like. strong arming our economy and industry. and loosening the pandemic on the world. china isn't having the big consequences we are having. and we lay a lot of of this at their feet because of their duplicity. the world is now in crisis. >> it's in crisis and has been for some time. our business establishment, wall street, corporate america, the principle lobbyists for business and finance have allied themselves with china against president trump and his insistence on global, balanced trade. any rational economist should be supp

china. around 2000 where we said, well, we're going to give china a helping hand over to help them economically develop is the end it will be like, japan or korea or europe, they will be our trading partners, we will all play by the same rules they will be our friends. it did not work out the same way with china. and so that is why i broke with nationalism, and globalism and both of the leaders and will be for donald trump came along. i was already there. that was by 2014 or 2015 reason i was because i went around the country. i did a lot of speaking around the country. i live in a bubble in new york but is that window up bullet went around the country, knew something was happening. i cannot figure out what was that i did my own informal bullying i would get up to the podium and i would say, how many of you think that the economy is not where it was pretty that you want to have the opportunities for you children that you have had. a lot of his with up. an icicle honey, or you think that amer

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meanwhile accounting for a quarter of the global told also coming up africans in china have been the targets of racist attacks fused to spreading the coronavirus we speak to a kenyan teacher who's dreams of a better future half inch half of. german hospitals appear to be coping with thousands of intensive care beds still free doctors are warning the system but yet to be overwhelmed if there's a 2nd wave of infection. i'm going to have as well come to the program the corona virus outbreak in the united states is fast approaching a 1000000 confirmed cases the death toll there has now surpassed $50000.00 that's around a quarter of the global corona death toll so far despite these grim milestones pressure is growing in some states to ease restrictions the governor of georgia has rejected warnings from infectious disease experts and is allowing many businesses to reopen including those where social distancing is almost impossible to enforce. on the day the coronavirus death toll in the usa rose above 50000 thomas putting was allowed to reopen his barber shop a barber in atlanta for over 5

we won't use biological weapon, china sign a treaty, now when there is a request for a inspection, china turns it down, this suspicion is growing. growing. i now one should think this way with what china are trying to knock out. >> interesting that chinese have energized their disinformation campaign here to shut down the discussion, using the political correctness that is abroad on national media, left wim wing ma and society as a way to if you will, cover-up what has happened to avoid discussion of what could be possibilities. that is alarming in and of itself that the federal government our government failed so far to blunt that disinformation campaign by china. which has succeeded in shutting down free speech in this country. >> they are trying to drag dr. fauci into this, i noticed in this long document, they claim among the world health organization team, that went to china was one of dr. fauci's colleagues. they also covered up the fact that the team did not go to wuhan. that the chinese continue to refuse even to today, to let qualified american scientists visit wuhan to the labo

about china when china released their general over their new wireless and they make you jump in here i have to go have to go to a hard break ok we're going to go to short break i'm out of that short break we'll continue our discussion on china bashing stay. join me every thursday on the alex salmond field and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics this i'm show business i'll see you then. welcome back to crossfire where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing china bashing. ok i want to go back to how it sit in london and one of the things i find very very interesting and i'm actually quite delighted about it is that now this leaves some elements of the political elites in the west particularly in the united states wanting to point the finger at china now everyone across the board has to reconsider globalization because this is how we got here ok this is exactly how we got here and and i want to just pick up with something that de mint had to say earlier you know it's called the pandemic for a reason it's cost of the entire world you can't fix

china includes supplement the funding, i china includes supplement the funding, lam china includes supplement the funding, i am not sure that that would be very good for the credibility of the world health organization because before this pandemic there were big questions around the relationship with china, which are derived largely from the world health organization embracing in traditional chinese medicine in 2018, which caused a huge negative reaction in the global medical community, and traditional chinese medicine, in addition to being untested in a scientific sense, is also the driver of a huge amount of illicit wildlife trafficking, which comes to the root of this pandemic. that is not a good move and i think china would be well advised not to embrace the world health organization too closely at this point. may, white and is out in terms of the international system generally. —— may —— but the un security council seems to be missing in action, why is this? the there is a lot of disquiet for months, and so much so that nine members of the ten nonpermanent members of the security

from china and china just saying they not only failed they chose not to ignore the rest of the they chose not to inform the rest of the world ok this is something that that that particular allegation is you've made a couple of times you say that china failed to inform the rest of the world i'm just looking through the embassy the response from the chinese embassy they talk about going back as far as december. 31st of last year. they say that the w.h.o. confirms the timeline that they lay out in their letter to you so where in that is again your proof that they need this information. well i think you know as journalists you and i shouldn't be trusting what the chinese regime says too much or already said we should know what we have not just what we are just trust what other people do but what we also should not do with. my snake allegations without proof so again i think 1st of all you know that in an interview maybe you should just let me just finish my sentence because i was going to have talked to for example numerous officials in german authorities for example that were caught in

greatly appreciate their efforts and transparency yet china was lying to us at the time. yeah and it was also obama's fault that you didn't have a test is that right. well it was certainly it was certainly obama and biden's fault that the stockpile of and 95 masts were depleted would you agree with that. to me to agree or disagree with that i was merely said many times he did her rigid a broken down i think we need all those facts and it's convenient that the obama biden illustration which is as you claim everyone knew this pandemic was coming why did they leave us completely empty with the stockpiles of mass and other critical supplies they knew that in 2009 there's a hearing with then secretary health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius where she acknowledged that the stockpiles for empty she acknowledged that all of her medical supplies were empty they had 8 years and they never did a single thing to refill that stockpile so it's a problem and it just because health care it's a failure of government bureaucracies an onerous rep regulations i've got that got

to china. in china came into the wto in 2001 they came in and congress gave it to them the bush administration brought them in 2001 so it was bipartisan both parties were a part of it there was an 80 billion-dollar trade deficit with china right now $300 billion trade deficit congress said it would help the american exports and decrease the trade deficit but it did no not. the whole thing was about investment to give china permanent msn it was about american companies investing in china both with the chinese market to send their stuff back here. why? i was general counsel of the senate finance committee i saw it corporation to be a stakeholder and in 1990 the roundtable said their responsibilities to their employees and communities and shareholders. and in 1999 it was to their shareholders. and their own compensation is tied to their ability for who was wealthy so american corporations and china is now in the wto with two.5 percent that does not mean we should ship to china we think about 11 pe

the global china situation. exactly what we expect china to do a lot more. >> david, how likely is the economy to respond to that given the household to income levels in china, they look very similar to what we have in the united states and japan chinese households are spending about everything they earn and they are borrowing as well >> caller: you are absolutely right. you have elevated household debt in china something that didn't really exist, say, 10 years ago when they were pulling out of the global financial crisis. i don't think the households are too overextended but asking for a major surge in the economies is a little bit of wishful thinking people will be concerned about the health situation and unemployment prospect. and we know, whether the virus caused the recession or housing, we know we are going to see an increase of cautionary savings not just household but the corporate sector as well falling into a deep hole and large level of unemployment. we'll face additional challenge about getting work

where did you get this english, at harvard or china? jean: i think i probably got in china. in china, we start to learn english starting from elementary school. if you have a good english teacher at school, you get ok. i would not call my english perfect. david: i think it is pretty good, it is probably better than mine. [laughter] when you graduated from harvard, did you decide to go to a great chinese firm like goldman sachs? jean: it was almost accidental to join goldman. i did a summer intern in the research division as an i.t. engineer in hong kong. i thought it was fascinating, what people are doing. i decided i wanted to apply for a full-time job. that's why i ended up in the investment banking division in hong kong. david: you went there after you graduated, you went to hong kong, and you stayed there for 12 years and became a managing director. jean: yes. david: most people would say if you are a managing director at goldman, life can't be much better, so you are on your way up to the top. why did you leave? jean: a lot of people asked me that question, especially w

is accusing china of militarizing the south china sea to china as it is in the us of the same thing in the past of course china has said that the us uses these types of legal arguments like freedom of navigation to actually barge recklessly they say into their region china of course claims this entire region you know last week on pale actually accused china of deploying military ships to intimidate other countries from starting boiling gas projects there so it's a lot of he said she said china of course calls this just deliberate provocation this is really a crazy blasting point when we really need to take a good look at michele good stuff thanks for bringing us the micro side of that story as we explain the macro side of that story and now as usual let's do the analysis george galloway former u.k. m.p. joining us now to take this support for us your impressions george over the top of this sudden incident that seems to be blowing up there in the south china sea what is it. well it's you know that is similar to our recent discussion about the persian gulf and again the clue is in the na

a milestone in china's fight against covert 90 the original epicenter reports no deaths for 10 days. but i'm glad this is out 0 live from doha also coming up all is quiet again sri lanka the government to reimpose is a nationwide curfew after searching cases. fighting for their lives prison is right in argentina saying they fear for their health while locked up during the pandemic . and the bond between patient and care families fit not enough is being done to keep people alive in us nurses. so that the original heart of the battle against coronaviruses marcie a significant breakthrough more than 3 months ago china reported its 1st death from the illness now it says it's gone 10 days in a row without any fatalities the government in beijing says it's detecting mostly imported cases and nearly no local transmission of the virus out of 12 new cases reported on saturday 11 were brought in from overseas and despite a ban on foreign nationals imposed late last month there's been a trickle of cases among chinese nationals returning let's go straightaway to sarah clarke who joins us live fr

tell us what you think china did >> so maria, i want to establish the origins of the virus and china's reactions to the virus. right now as you say the most plausible explanation supported by literally all of the circumstantial evidence is that the virus ridge thatted in one of those two laboratories in wuhan all the way back in january it was pretty well documented by chinese scientists that it did not originate in the food market. but wherever it originated, maria we know that the chinese communist party was both criminally negligent and then deliberately, deliberately in the way they responded this virus, for their own people and the world. as early as the second week of december it was clear at this virus was spreading from person to person, and by late december it was spreading to doctors in wuhan hospitals. some doctors were trying to blow the whistle on these facts and the secret police arrived at their doorsteps in the middle of the night so only after china possessed up to the who on december 31 did the world know what was happening yet still they continued to deny it was spre

china could supplement the funding. i'm not sure that that would be very good for the credibility of the who, because actually before this pandemic there were big questions around the relationship with china, which had derived largely from the who embracing traditional chinese medicine in 2018, which caused a huge negative reaction in the global medical community. traditional chinese medicine, in addition to being untested in a scientific sense, is also the driver of a huge amount of illicit wildlife traffic, which comes to the roots of this pandemic. so that's not a good move, and i think china would be well advised not to embrace the who too closely at the moment. lyse, widen this out into the international system more generally. the international secretary said covid—19 is the biggest challenge in the organisation's history, 75 years. but the un security council seem to be missing in action. under a lot of disquiet and open condemnation for months, so much so that nine members of the ten non—permanent members of