the 60s happened in kentucky a lot. a lot of crazy things going on in appalachia and eastern kentucky, things to do with environmentalism and poverty and it really surprised me. i thought that was the way to approach the story, look at what the 60s were like in eastern kentucky. by way of background before the rfk trip in 1960, brother jack ran for president. west virginia was an important primary for john kennedy and bobby was his campaign manager and this was the first time they were opposed to american poverty up close and it stuck with both of them. there is a funny story from the 1960 campaign in west virginia where an old coalminer came up to jack kennedy and that is true that you never work today in your life? jack kennedy said there is some truth to that. the coalminer said don't worry, you haven't missed a damn thing. so kennedy was enamored of the people in west virginia and appalachia and they always stay with them. 63, july '63, harry connell, a writer from eastern kentucky wrote a book called mike comes to

appalachian eastern kentucky. thing to do with environmentalism and poverty and really surprised me and really thought maybe that was the way to approach the story was to look at what the 60s were like in eastern kentucky. and just by way of background before the rfk trip. in 1960 his brother jack ran for president. and west virginia was an important place in bobby was his campaign manager and this was the first time that jack and bobby really were exposed to american poverty of closeby i'm really think it struck are stuck with both of them. there is a funny story from the 1960 camping and west virginia where an old coalminer came up to jack kennedy as it is a true that you have never worked today yin your life. and jack kennedydy said, there s some truth to that. the coalminer said, will don't worry you haven't missed arr dan thing. [laughter]. so kennedy really was enamored with the people in west virginia and the people in appalachia and they think that stayed with him and 63, july of 63, harry it was a writer

and eastern kentucky the counties of eastern kentucky were considered their own state. it would have an even higher rate. appalachians i was in a say appalachian boys their men, were considered especially good at walking points because they were film layer with mountain terrain. they were fantastic marksmen, and they were familiar with living in rough environments because they did for long periods of time. i think it was 8% of the combat veterans, of the combat soldiers in vietnam were from app to latch about 13% of the medal of honor recipients were for appalachia, so it's a pretty big disparity. so to answer your question, there is ambivalence, definite ambivalence and appalachia the time. young people unequivocally opposed the war. i think their parents were more ambivalent than that. they supported the war but they certainly did not like seeing their children go off and fight it and die in such proportion. >> what is known about the health effects of the war on poverty? it certainly must be something that has been studied, but i don't know anything about it for sure

eastern kentucky. i think jack kennedy has seen both of these and they made quite an impression and he made plans to go to eastern kentucky to see how the planes were themselves and that trip was scheduled for december of 1963. so that never took place. however, after his assassination, lbj'sacr, got upd for the antipoverty campaigns, and the january's state of the union address stated the war on poverty. in august of 64, seven months later the economic opportunity act was passed creating the office of economic opportunity or oto which is the agency that oversaw the war on poverty programs. there were so many programs, it takes a page in the book to list allus the programs but somewhere headstart, medicare was something that came out of the school lunch program. so rfk when he went to eastern kentucky in january 68 had a few reasons to go. i think it was still on the back of his mind that his brother had wanted to visit eastern kentucky in december of 63 and he never made it. he wanted to gauge the suc

i went down to kentucky and began researching the book in 2017. i grew up in philadelphia or outside of philadelphia, so a lot of my -- i have a love of bias attached to it, to the story of appalachia and also my idea of the 1960s was woodstock and the chicago convention in san francisco. when you can think about the 60s where i came from the 60s happened in kentucky a lot. there were a lot of crazy things going on in appalachia and eastern i kentucky. things to do with environmentalism and poverty. it really surprised me, and i thought maybe that's the way to approach the story is to look at the 60s were like in eastern kentucky. just by way of background before the arcane trip, in 1960 as jack ran for president in west virginia was an important primary antibody was his campaign manager and this isis e first time they wereir exposed o american poverty up close and i think it's stuck with both of them there's a funny story from the campaign in west virginia where an old coal miner came up and said is it true you've never worked a day in your life

the 60s happened in kentucky a lot. there were a lot of crazy things going on in appalachia and eastern kentucky. things to do with te environmentalism and poverty. it really surprised me and i thought, maybe that's a way to approach the story is to look at what the 60s were like in eastern kentucky. by way of background before the rfk trip in 1960 his brother jack ran for president and in west virginia was an important ntprimary for john kennedy to win. and bobby was his campaign n.manager and this was the firs time jack and bobby really were exposed to american poverty up close. i think it really stuck with both of them. there is a funny story from 1960 campaign in west virginia where an old coalminer came up to jack kennedy and said, is it true that you've never worked a day in your life? jack kennedy said, yes there is some truth to that.the coalminer said, don't worry, you have it missed a dam thing. [laughter] kennedy was enamored with the people in west virginia and the people in appalachia and they always stayed

kentucky. i began researching the book in 2017. and i have, i grew up in philadelphia or outside philadelphia a lot of my, i have a lot of biases attached to. to the story of appalachia and also the 1960s. my idea of the 1960s was woodstock and the chicago convention. san francisco, you don't really think of kentucky when you think about the 60s you at least i didn't. where i came from. but the 60s happened in kentucky a lot. there were a lot ofcrazy things going on in appalachia and eastern kentucky . things to do with environmentalism and poverty and it really surprised me and i really thought maybe that's the way to approach the story is to look at what the 60s were like. in eastern kentucky. just by way of background before the rfk trip in 1960 as brother jack ran for president west virginia was a important primary for john kennedy to when bobby was his campaign manager and this was the first time jack and bobby were exposed to american poverty up close and i think it stuck with both of the

barely even considered to be kentucky. so, tell me how did that wind up being your decision. you could have gone someplace out there so tell us that process. >> i fell in love when i was a law student and had the opportunity to spend some summers here. and i always tell folks what i love is that it's big enough to have everything you need and small enough to actually use it. [laughter] it's true you can get a seat at a coffee shop or a nice restaurant you can go in so for me i have gone and lived in cities and i think there's so much value and one of the things i'm really interested in is this whole idea of the divide because i think people are people that we have more in common than we have that divides us. but i loved living in cities because i loved the unique and interesting things that happened. kentucky was always home and felt like home. i fell in love with louisville and i thought that this was a place i could land and make a difference so i moved here and started doing the work that i was doing and met my husband

my experience working in rural kentucky in eastern kentucky showed me there's a lot of barriers that exist in places that we don't necessarily see you then. when i was working in the civil justice system, i saw the way that there was a lot of financial barriers that stop women from being in the court system and keep them in their families safe. we talk about this in the criminal context, a lot of people say you have the right to an attorney, if you can't afford 11 will be provided. people don't realize you have the same right in the civil law. when i was working with these women trying to get custody orders or tried to get protective orders they did not necessarily have a right to get an attorney. so i was representing them for free and that was certainly helpful but not always enough because a lot of times there are fees that you have to pay like having an attorney appointed for your children, commissioners where you had to pay an hourly fee to have your case heard, there was all these little fees that add up. and one of the things that i noticed that there was a law on the books th

we're passing that here in kentucky. now let me say i'm a person of deep faith, church is very important to my family and my son was supposed to get baptized on sunday. our houses of worship have a number of options both virtual and we allow drive-in services here in the state, which some other states don't. the church in question you're talking about had both virtual and a drive-in option. all we were saying is don't have a third option where you spread the coronavirus because some of our church won't be there by christmas if we're having an in-person service right now. >> before i ask how you're doing working with washington, what did you decide in terms of the baptism? did you do anything on easter sunday, did you postpone it? that had to be tough. >> that's my son, will. my kids are a year apart. lila will be next year. he's an amazing kid. he told me, dad, i was really looking forward to this day but if it's going to help keep other people safe, i'm willing to wait. that made me a proud dad in a lot of different way

moving from rural kentucky to urban kentucky was the greatest culture shock of my life. people identified me as someone from the mountains their reactions to the way i talked were insulting and made me feel silenced. i moved to los angeles years later and to this day people still ask where do you get that accent where you're from. oh my goodness gracious. this this made house hauler and not childhood home run before us. we moved out of that house and not the 98. is that rebel flag right there in the middle. and this was my bedroom or what here my dad did all this brick work for the record this flagpole was not here when we lived here and there certainly was no . confederate flag flying high on our property. my mom was a nurse and my dad worked in the coal mines until he got laid off he became a brick mason. he once said to me that people would look at him and my mom as embodying the american dream they went from living in a single wide trailer to building their dream home. i felt fortunate as a child. for most people in my hometown at that time there were basically 2 job

kentucky has nearly 600 cases. will there be consequences for ignoring city officials until trump changes tune? >> i think it's going to sharpen what we've already seen in these urban states, which is an urban/rural divide. in small town, rural, i don't think there's going to be consequences but big metro centers like austin, houston, dallas, florida, georgia, it's going to continue movement i think away from republicans because they seem to have sided with ideology over science at a critical moment in the state's development. >> ron brownstein, thank you very much. appreciate it. with schools closed, lot of kids across the country are in need of a good meal. i'm going to speak to someone who is taking care that kids in his community are getting one. . metamucil supports your daily digestive health using a special plant-based fiber called psyllium. psyllium works by forming a gel in your digestive system to trap and remove the waste that weighs you down. metamucil's gelling action also helps to lower cholesterol an

this is in kentucky. one of the poorest counties in all of america is sort of in deep appalachia a small county county about 4500 people. it is hard foror me to know which part of the county i should share it with the rest of the world. the broken fallen in places helps people to understand the extent of the poverty.ce i do want them to know how deep it goes. maybe if they understand it they can help fix it. i also don't want them to think that this poverty is all that exists in appalachia. to see it's hopeless. broken. dirty.hi that is not what i see when i look at this place that i love. along the way some of the lawns are scattered with what appears to be junk. old car parts. refrigerators, children's toys. i know that for some people the piles of useless stuff serve a purpose in the entrepreneurial one at that. people here make a living however they can selling old car parts. refrigerators organizing yard sales they collect anything a possible value because they do not know what will come in handy. if

kentucky has nearly 600 cases. tennessee nearly 2600. will there be consequences for governors ignoring government officials until trump changed his tune? >> ingts sharpen in all of these states. in heartland, small town rural, i dot think there is going to be consequences. the big metro centers in texas, san antonio, austin, houston, dallas, florida, et cetera, georgia, it's going to continue the movement away from republicans because they seem to be siding with ideology over science in a critical moment in state's development. >> ron brownstein, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >>> with schools closed, a lot of kids across the country are in need of a good meal. in a moment il speak to one who is taking care that kids in his community are getting one. these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office onl

where they are ever talks about shutting kentucky down for that? >> well my am a young man but to my knowledge those restrictions have not occurred before. and it is interesting if you look at tennessee per capita deaths for the commonwealth, kentucky is restricted from going there even though we have more at death's per capita kentucky. so we can commit strikes at the arbitrary nature of the restrictions. that is why we are in court fighting against it, not because we want to score any points but it is the right thing to do as it relates to the constitution. as you noted, we are sensitive to the concerns about the pandemic and recognize the kentuckians are doing everything they can to flatten the curve. >> laura: but you've already you've already flatten the curve. attorney general cameron, we've got to move on but you have flattened the curves. the point was to save the health care system, correct? and to make sure you have enough ventilators. did you save the health care system and do you do you have enough ventilators, yes? >> if you listen to

team kentucky came together. i think we have to be careful not to confuse science with pseudoscience. there a lot of detail and uncertainty. we try to calculate those numbers but i don't have any great confidence in them because it depends on the size of the population you test, the positivity rate, where you are sampling. we have a drive-through program that is different than the hospital program. yes, we do look at those things so you can have confidence in that. but i don't have something to share. for th e governor's question, we are trying to do the best we can to balance the societal needed to resume activities that are so important to society, but to keep people safe. that is what we have been trying to do for the past two months. it's what we are committed to doing going forward. i think we owe a debt of great gratitude to the governor for following the science, follow what we thought was the best possib le science, and keeping people safe. what i just said, it is a tragedy that so many people have died.

central tennessee, like the bluegrass of kentucky, is rapidly growing. look at georgia. what you are seeing is white people are moving up to the very boundary of cherokee land. they are pushing into as hard as they can. also in this first decade, they are moving to the mississippi river and louisiana. we sometimes think of this as westward migration, but migration is moving in multiple directions at once. this is the black population change at the same time. what you will see is that black people are being concentrated in this is the pattern we will see all along, where they are of use to white people. the train of enslaved people is relentless and it is very efficient. down in natchez, mississippi, it had been a french town beginning to grow. this is the beginning of the sugar trade in louisiana. this has enormous consequences. you will also see upcountry south carolina, and this helps explain some of the pressure on the cherokee, because they are living where the cotton kingdom is expanding. this is 1810, 1820. the black population change. no sooner do white people tak

>> thankfully, in kentucky it's going rather well. beshear has put a lot of things in place that kept our cases and our case load lower so far in the kentucky and we have not seen the number that a lot of other places have seen so far. so i think we are best case scenario at the moment and i don't know if there is a best case everywhere but i'm thankful for what we have at the moment. >> talk to me about what you're doing. you have a family and you're very exposed to people with coronavirus every day. how are you living and dealing with that? >> for us, our decision was kind of difficult. i'm in a trailer on the street outside of our house. i'm going to be exposed to coronavirus every time i go to work. that's a given. i can do what i can to protect myself. thankfully, i'm in a health care system that's doing very well managing ppe and taking care of its employees and physicians so i don't worry about that so much but the risk isn't zero and, you know, people are dying from this of all ages and it was just a much more better option fo

>> thankfully, in kentucky it's going rather well. there have been a lot of things in place that kept our cases and our case load lower so far in the kentucky and we have not seen the number that a lot of other places have seen so far. so i think we are best case scenario at the moment and i don't know if there is a best case anywhere. i'm thankful for what we have at the moment. >> talk to me about what you're doing. yo u ha you have a family experiencing coronavirus every day. how are you living and dealing

the main crop of kentucky and tennessee is livestock and hemp. this is not the cotton south, it's barely beginning here. so the idea that it's cotton that causes it, no it's people who are causing it. all fired up. so what we see is that as this cotton frontier expands this gives us a clear idea -- again, look at georgia. white people have brought back people to the very edge of the land they can claim. so there are treaties with the cherokee in georgia, almost every four or five years as this pressure, they take more and more and more of the land. and a lot of times it's before it's taken it's infiltrated. so you have people coming in many, trying to few fangle their way into the lands, sometimes intermarrying with them, sometimes illegally tradesing with them and so forth. so you have the pressure building up of white settlers out of enslaved population. now, you've seen this map, versions of it, very -- so if you go back to 1790 and remember how much of that land was occupied by native people, how rapidly it is that this map, which is now i th

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the main crop of kentucky and tennessee is livestock and hemp. so this is not the cotton south, it's not cotton who causes the it, no, it's people who are causing it. i get fired up. [ laughter ] so what we see is that as this cotton frontier expands, this gives a clear idea, again, look at georgia, look at what heat, white people have brought black people to the very edge of a land that they can claim. so there are treaties with the cherokee in georgia almost every four or five years as this pressure as they take more and more and more of the land. and lot of times before it is taken it's infiltrated. you have people coming in, trying to fenagle their way in the land, sometimes intermarriage or trading, so forth. you have enormous demographic pressure bimdiuilding of white settlers and enslaved population. so you seen this map. if you go back to 1719 and remember how much of that land was occupied by native people. how rapidly it is, this map is now in every present aition so far and will be later, is what the situation is by 1830. sets up a lot

politics and violence published to the university of kentucky. ivy brashear is apposition translator for community economic development in maria, kentucky. welcome tonight. thank you for coming. i will turn the floor over to you. >> thanks for helping to organize this and thanks to parnassus for holding this. can you hear all right? i want to thank west virginia university press, the publisher of this book, this weird thing that we might do. abby has been amazing at getting this book out there. tony and i are going to talk about the process. we decided to have two contributors from the collection, there is a little bit going on in nashville right now. the structure tonight is a lot like the structure of this book. we will hear from tony about the concept of the book, why we wrote this book and then we will hear from bob hutton on interrogating hillbilly section of the book. and grounded in his work as a historian. iv will read from her peace, the appalachia i know is very much alive which is drawn from the responding section of the book and a pow

the governor of kentucky joins us now. governor, good to have you with us and thanks for taking the time. why are you prioritizing reopening that sector versus barber shops or gyms like we're seeing in georgia. >> let me start the way i start every day when i update the people of kentucky. that's by reminding us all we will get through this and get through it together. in the commonwealth of kentucky i couldn't be prouder of how my people have responded to this worldwide health pandemic. they've been willing to make sacrifices. they've been willing to do what it takes to flatten our curve and because of that we have saved countless numbers of lives here. we cannot as we look at reopening frustrate those sacrifices. we cannot stop taking important measures now midway through our fight against the coronavirus. and so our goal is not to be the fastest but to be the smartest. and so when we look at what we reopen first, the health care area, it gives us the best protections against the coronavirus. it's an area where people ar

two you were trying to spend most of your life trying to escape kentucky and then he went back to kentucky. two i don't know that i was trying to escape kentucky but the chaotic home i grew up and. a love the places that i came from. and i always wanted to go back. it definitely was a really exciting and good year. we both worked for really good people. sometimes people get stuck with bad judges, but we worked for great people and had a great year. >> host: so i said in the beginning there are three reasons i think the book is very successful, at least in my view. it's very well written, very precise and a good read. secondly, the life story is almost like a novel, so it is very interesting. but the third, is one of the reasons the book has become so popular because as you point out yourself, the world has changed a fair bit since you conceived of writing the book. and now what you wrote about is seeing is one of the problems of our country, we've a lot of drug abuse, opioid abuse, unemployment, particularly in the midwest and the people that you come from, the roots where you come from ha

i know we're passing here in kentucky. we need to pass it as a country. >> woodruff: governor andy beshear, thank you very much for talking with us, and we wish yof and the people kentucky the very best in all of this. >> thank you. >> woodruff: in the day's other the pandemic with former vice president joe biden, his prospective democratic oppent this fall. people familiar with the phone call confirmed it to the newshour.ic the formerpresident has criticized mr.rump for moving too slowly. at the 11th hour, the governor democrat governor tony evers ordered today a vote be delayed till june and cd the pandemic. but republican legislative leaders ape ealed and latday the state supreme court ruled that the primary must take plce as scheduled. the ousted inspector generalor the u.s. intelligence community is urging other watchdogs not to be muzzled. president trump fired michael atkinson friday night, for passing on a whistleblower's complaint that led to his impeachment. in a statement overnight, atkinson appealed to other in

than kentucky. the point is that making comparisons right now with the data we have between places, between countries, between regions is just really hard and i would say this, the granularity and specificity of the data we have access to can very much give us a false sense of how much we really know about what is going on. we are still trying to sort through all this data and also just figure out how accurate the data may or may not be. but all of that said, one thing we can pretty well establish and this is i think a consensus view of epidemiologists studying this, states and areas that move early do better than states that wait. consider what's happened so far in new york and california. again, those states are running different numbers of tests, there's different levels of population density and broadly nothing here is simple. lots of variables, right. what is undeniable, california officials acted earlier and the state had a less severe outbreak and new york officials moved later and has had th

does that affect the ability of people in kentucky to stay healthy, to stayaf >> well, in kentucky, we have taken aggressive action. and what that means is we don't just issue wh we call a healthy at home order, itmea we've had to shut businesses, we have our houses of worship doing virtual services, tens of thousands of people not going to work we have mad sacrifices. ndd this coronavirus doesn't know boies, state or county don't take aggressive action, what they do is force the sacrifice of millions ofan kentucand residents of other states that are doing what it takes to defeat this virus. so i wouldn't ask another governor to look at me and explain it. i would ask them to look at my people who aren't going to work, who shut down a small business that was te dream because they want to protect each other. this is a test of ou humanity, whether we will put each other's lives ahead of our own economic lf-interests. i know we're passing here in kentucky. need to pass it as country. >> woodruff: governor andy beshear, thank you very much for talking with us, and we wish you and the people

. >>> let's now go down to kentucky where the governor of kentucky, the democratic governor of kentucky joins me. governor, thank you so much for being with us. i want to ask you about the reopening your state. you have seen some protests there to your shutdown. what are you looking at? and what are your plans? >> first, let me start by saying to the people of the commonwealth of kentucky and america that we're going to get through this. and we're going to get through it together. and we're going to get through it by continuing to be united. yes, we see a few dozen people who might not believe that this virus is real or who might not believe it's as deadly as it is. but what i see all across my state is mill upon millions of people that have been willing to sacrifice for each other, that are passing this test of humanity about putting other people's lives ahead of their own economic self interests. so i believe that the real amazing thing here is that in are this crisis, in my state, there have been democrats or republicans just americans versus this coronavirus. and they have flattened

host: gary out of newport, kentucky. caller: i would like to thank you for our first responders are always there. people complain a lot, but you are the first ones they always call. i just want to tell you that, from the bottom of my heart, everybody in kentucky, and i know, the nation. that is about what i had to say. thank you. guest: thank you. we appreciate that. it is something a lot of law-enforcement agencies do not hear enough of. we know the public appreciates what we do. again, we are in difficult times and ask for patience from residents and our jurisdictions. it is not business as usual. they may be used to see police officers walking the beat or police officers in two-person cars in their neighborhoods or police officers always coming to their home, no matter what crime they are reporting. and right now, we are asking them to handle these incidents in a much different manner. we ask for their patience. host: to madison, illinois. richard. caller: thank you for taking the call. i call in reference to the offi

kentucky is the number three state in taking from the federal pot. they take out more from the federal pot than they put in every year. every year. but this is america. pot, you putederal in what you can, and the states that need it take it. ok. year, new york was the number one donor state putting in more money than it took out. putting in more money than anyone else. and taking out less. the number one donor state. kentucky every year was the number three state that took out more than they put in. the pot anding into they were taking our dollars out of the pot, and now he wants to look at new york and say we are bailing you out? you are bailing us out? just give me my money back, senator. just give me my money back. i mean, it is just ridiculous. they should declare bankruptcy. ok, senator, passed the bill that authorizes states to declare bankruptcy. sign the bill, mr. president. back, pent upming demand, stock market taking off." ok, pass the bill that allows states to be bankrupt and let's watch how the stock market takes off at that great news

did you say i am a hillbilly from kentucky and ohio? >> i am a hillbilly from ohio, how are you? that definitely came through the way i conducted myself. i'm a strong partisan and i think everyone knew where i was from. >> how did you do in yale law school. the club chief justice - i didn't do as well as her. they don't give traditional grades. it is hard to know, i wasn't at the bottom of the pack, i was comfortable with that. >> to the yale law journal, one of the most festive things you can do, what did you decide you wanted to do? >> we had an opportunity -- >> is sheesh here now? where is she? where is she? okay. >> your in the same class. >> on the eastern district. in covington just over the river. and working on things we are interested in. >> you spend your life trying to escape kentucky and then you went back to kentucky. >> the chaotic home i grew up in, i loved the place i came from and always wanted to go back but it was really exciting, good year. we work for great people. >> the book is very successful, very precise and good read but the life story, it is very inte

withhis morning i talked both the ohio governor and the kentucky governor. we talked about where we are in terms of testing on how we are seeking to expand testing abilities. we talked about elective procedures and retail businesses opening in stages. whether it is illinois, michigan, ohio, or kentucky, or beyond that, but those of the border states i am in constant contact with, or our staff, to talk about workflow issues, travel issues, being across a river or cross a border, and we will continue to do that. , indianapolis monthly. their been any inquiries from insurers across the state about whether injecting household cleaners could cure covid-19? the president suggested yesterday that injecting cure covid-19, and is the president making the fight against covid-19 harder with these comments? reporter: i certain -- commissioner box: i certainly had individuals who reached out and dust about the wisdom of doing this. i assured them that is not something we recommend we have carefully gone over things they can do to protect themselves. governor holcomb: i w

and i know, for example, the people in bowling green, kentucky would like to see the news about mitch mcconnell, not about chuck schumer because they have been able to take distant signals from new york for virtually nothing and bring them into the homes of those in bowling green, kentucky. you know, and a time like a national crisis like coronavirus it doesn't help people in bowling green or missoula, montana to be getting new york or local news from la or new york. they needed about their community and that is why congress finally said okay, keep your word, serve all 210 markets, no longer can you import distant signals. within congress did the right thing and broadcasters who provide localism are doing the right thing, giving the american people the news and information they need in a crisis. >> let me push you for more details kind of talking about broadcasters and the so-called paid tv operators not having disputes during this time. is that something broadcasters are committed to? it struck me that even if not both sides were committed to it if particularly broadcasters would you

and iv bashir's transition kumar data for community economic development in kentucky. welcome tonight, thank you guys for coming. i'm going to turn the floor over to you. so thank you for helping organize this, and thanks for having us. and thanks all for being here. can you hear all right? okay. i also want to thank west virginia university press who is the publisher for this book. who sought this kind of weird thing that we wanted to do and kind of helped us to this thing we might do. derek and abby have been especially amazing at helping get this book out there. tony and eiko edited this collection, we will talk about that process. we are really excited to have two contributors hear from the collection. so thanks to both iv and bob for making the drive to nashville. there's a little bit coin on in nashville right now. [laughter] so the structure tonight is going to be a lot like the structure of the book. we will hear from tony about the concept of the book, basically why we wrote this book. then we will hear from bob, his pieces in the interrogating section of the