abir has also worked as basically a psychologist or psychiatrist. she saved two people from jumping off the staten island ferry. and when you think about new york city has spent about $90 billion a year. that's more than 48 out of 50 states. there are a number of city agents that are responsible for providing those services. and so what i say -- when i say we're asking our cops to do too much, the question is, where are these other agencies working day-to-day on the streets, 24/7, in realtime to support communities and neighborhoods? >> but you and i both know how government works and how slow it works and how disconnected. you wrirkte, we should build a 21st century public safety ecosystem that distributes the sole responsibility of public safety from law enforcement across multiple city agencies. listen, that is an extraordinary idea, but knowing what you know about how government works, about how these agencies work, is it realistic? could something like that ever really happen? >> i think what other choice do we have? there's plenty of examples