consider bari weiss. she announced her resignation and the skating mother that accuses that the times of being controlled by the mob. "twitter is not on the master to ignore ties but twitter has become its ultimate editor and obvious reference to the left-wing agitators. she continued. a new consensus has emerged in the press but perhaps especially at this paper the truth isn't in the process of collective discovery but an unorthodox you already know to enlighten few whose job it is to inform everybody else." that's from her. the letter goes on. she explains that intellectual curiosity and risk-taking have become liabilities of "the new york times" which is why the paper refuses to run stories that challenge the emerging woke orthodoxy. freethinkers to the extent they exist at the paper are too afraid to express their opinions. they remain quiet, afraid of the backlash and bullying than independent thought might provoke. weiss isn't some sort of trump loving conservative with controversial views. she's an

bari weiss made mistakes. she is making serious charges, saying there's a point of intoll jens where pushing op-eds of a different viewpoint can hurt an editor's career. ray: she says in effect that the people who run the place have given over their oversight to twitter as a way of describing how a mob mentality makes decisions for the paper. even if just a portion of what she says in her letter is true, they better have some really serious soul-searching going on there at the times. if you have people trashing each other by name in a forum where management is a participant in that forum and sees the posts, something is definitely not in good control in the editorial section there and, look, the new york times is an important journalistic institution and it needs to be healthy. it's a good thing if it's healthy and well-run, a good thing for everybody. and i hope they get control of their problems if those problems exist in the way that bari weiss describes them. howard: yeah. well, acting editorial page edito

bari weiss doubling down on the times as relationship with twitter writing, quote, twitter is not on the masthead of the new york times but twitter has become its ultimate editor. senior policy analyst for the independent women's forum joined us to talk about bari weiss's resignation. >> i hope this is a wake-up call for editors inside the new york times. i have no hope anything will change. it is run by editors who have an agenda and that agenda does not include viewpoint diversity. >> reporter: eileen murphy responding to bari weiss's letter, quote, we are committed to fostering an environment of honest, searching and empathetic dialogue between colleagues where mutual respect is required of all. rob: a letter worth reading, bill marr tweeted out. a lot of moderate liberals can't believe what is happening at the new york times. jillian: the missouri couple who pointed guns at protesters fear they may soon be indicted. rob: congressman jody high's wrote a letter to william barr defending their second amendment rights, he joined us next. no matter where you live, where you live has n

bari weiss accused them of bullying her calling her a nazi and racist. our next guest says the media's hardship to the left is to blame. thank you for being here, appreciate having you on. how are you? >> i'm great. i've been doing this more often. >> we will see you back here tomorrow. i want to get your opinion on this. a gallup annual poll shows dropping trust in media 72% in 1976, 199753%, down to 32% in 2016 but the most recent was 2019 and it went up to 41%. what do you make of that? >> amazing how it breaks down among party lines. the first poll you talked about 1976, 3 in 4 americans trust the media before social media and a lot of things changed things including opinion being injected into reporting and anchors sharing their feelings, walter cronkite didn't do that, peter jennings and so on so now you look at the numbers today, nearly 7 in 10 democrats trust the media. wise that? because they like what they are hearing. only 15% of republicans don't trust the media. in this case it is a matter of you know what you are getting in terms of one par

i respect bari weiss a lot. but very little definition is she a conservative. she's a conservative on a handful of issues, but by the definition of, i think, most people in this country and most people watching this program, they would consider her to be a centrist or even a liberal on most issues. she is someone who, in other words, should be perfectly acceptable to work at "the new york times." the fact is that they will brook no disagreement on any significant subject, and the fact that she would bring in other competing voices in the wake of 20 2016 to try and increase the ds something here coburg is fun and accessible. she's leaving right now, she's making the choice to leave, but it was clear as soon as james bennett had to resign in the wake of the tom cotton op-ed fiasco, he was not long for the times. they would find a way to get rid of her. the invocation of her letter is she is going to perhaps file suit, considering it's a hostile work environment. i hope we all get to see what they were all saying about her and these channels without any kind of pu

bari weiss, whose sin was not being a lockstep liberal, has really delivered a stinging indictment of the out-of-control liberal can do on my culture of the paper which has already forced out their editorial page editor. for her to talk about constantly being bullied, called the nazi, a racist, bigot, a liar, by her own colleagues, is far more troubling than anything any outside credit could write. >> harris: i want to get this in. it is bari weiss also right in, "twitter is not on the masthead of "the new york times," but twitter has become its ultimate editor." howie? >> that may be true for a lot of news organizations that are basically afraid of being denounced on social media for not having the right opinions. remember, this is an opinion section we talking about. for me, it's bigger than just bari weiss, although she was very personal in that letter to the publisher, saying he praised her privately for her courage but allowed what she considered a hostile workplace environment to flourish. when she talks about self-censorship in the opinion pages, she said, "why edit something c

"new york times" opinion section editor bari weiss is leaving and she is not going quietly. fox news media analyst howie kurtz shows us tonight. good evening. >> good evening. in a scathing resignation letter, bari weiss, in opinion editor says she's been constantly bullied by her own colleagues. they called me a racist, seven she says publicly smear me as a liar and a bigot on twitter but no fear that it would be met with appropriate action, they never are for this environment yields what she calls self-censorship. we can measure ourselves of job security and clicks by publishing our 4,000 op-ed arguing that donald trump is a unique danger to the country on the world the departure gets personal when she complains in the note that he and other executives did nothing while privately praising her as courageous and not some friendly colleagues see a new mccarthyism there. a controversial writer and self-described centrist who has made some errors but also complained about being pilloried by the social media mob. >> saying that i am offended as a way of making the someone radioa

bari weiss says "the times" leadership is caving to a toxic intolerant left-wing culture. liberals who are not liberal at all. they censor and attack those with differences of opinion. that is what an op-ed page is supposed to be about. bari weiss said management stood by, did not defend her, effectively condoned bullying, harrassment not just of her but work colleagues. now there is this, has "new york times" exposed itself to potential lawsuit for allowing a hostile work environment, a hostile work environment against moderates an send tivities. christopher bedford what do you think. has claims of hostile work environment, violation of civil rights act of 1964. what do you think? >> explicit, exactly, liz. in her piece worth reading for certain, she said explicitly, these are the problems she was facing. work place harrassment. these are legal problems for "the new york times" if she would decide to bring a lawsuit. my reading of the piece similar to yours, she might bring a lawsuit and she might have similar support in this matter. "new york times" is this a dangerous p

but i want to touch on bari weiss' letter. i thought she was right in everything she said. however, the reasons for quitting the times are kind of like quitting the panel of the view because you found out it was all women. i mean, how could you be surprised by "the new york times" business model? it's pretty obvious that they are not providing actual news anymore, they are providing validation for the customer base and i don't even think they hide that anymore and that is to your point, juan, why they make a lot of money. it's upper-class white liberals with a lot of money and they feel less guilty about the fact that they are white and rich. it's one big virtually signal that is becoming less and less readable. but she did make a good point about how the media takes its cue from twitter, but twitter takes its cue from medial people on twitter. so it's a recursive machine that feeds itself. >> juan: that's interesting. jesse, i wanted to ask you if you think this is more of our generational battle than anything. you get more women, more minorities, more gay people and more

bari weiss is someone, she has thousands of twitter followers herself. she has been in there on twitter, throwing some punches herself at people she disagrees with. i'm not saying she is a bully, but if you are going to dish it out, you've got to be ready to take it. i learned that a long time ago. >> harris: actually, legally, we don't have to be ready to take harassment on the job. that's already established. jill abramson, i've got illegal. thank you for the discussion. >> she can sue. thank you. >> harris: don't call him an underdog. president trump rejected that label, saying the polls are missing the enthusiasm of his supporters. just like four years ago. he is speaking at the white house. we'll bring you back. ♪ meowners from newday usa. interest rates have dropped to record lows. newday usa makes it so easy to refinance that one call can save you $3000 a year. newday's va streamline refi lets you refinance without having to verify your income, without getting your home appraised and without spending one dollar out of pocket to get it done. it i

is what people like bari weiss pointing to? >> yes, i think there is a growing opposition of political views. where we get it wrong in this conversation is looking at mostly mainstream and progressive outlets. places like "the new york times," "the washington post," cnn, host a really wide variety of prerspectives. that's ain't day that goes by where you can't find perspectives on those websites. you can't say the same thing about fox news, about breitbart, websites like townhall.com. it's conservative news outlets as well as conservative institutions like religious colleges where you're lacking diversity of opinion. what i see happening here is pointing to something that is a frustrating problem, but by honing in on, quote/unquote, liberal outlets, i think you really miss the fuller story. and the ways in which i think the right is working the lefts on this one. >> what about what some on the right say about the dynamic in -- let's take what andrew sullivan's critique or other critiques, which is if you say the wrong thing abo

unfortunately with bari weiss's resignation that is one less editor to consider a column from any sort of centrist or conservative. so this does have lasting implications and i think it is just one of many examples we can point to in the cancel culture where you know, these illiberal twitter mobs are dictating the type of conversations we can have as a nation. charles: yeah. yeah. cancel culture goes cancel journalism, kelsey, thank you very much. >> thank you. charles: folks a central texas county is trying to lure tesla to build a factory there and they're approving millions in tax subsidies to the electric carmaker. the question will this push help the city in this competition. i want to bring in cheryl casone. here we go again. million of dollars to lure a big factory, cheryl. cheryl: they have a pretty good argument. this is austin, texas, pretty cool as someone from texas. this is travis county. unemployment is 11.8% due to the coronavirus. they could argue they need jobs like many places do. this is a $1.1 billion man will build there. they are making cyber trucks, charles. ther

"bari weiss has made a career of claiming to be persecuted. it's how she got hired by "the new york times" and the first place, so i don't believe a single thing she says." she has to know, despite writing a very long detailed letter, they're going to be those who think it's sour grapes. you know, and she just couldn't take the heat, what do you say? >> look, i think that -- her positions on things have been well known for a long time. the fact that she's waited this long to actually come out and make these points i think tells you that she's no violen violete idea that this is all just fantasy just doesn't fit with the facts when you see other writers and other publications and as you've been documenting, people in other institutions increasingly just can't get away with saying things that the mob doesn't approve of. that is completely antithetical to everything america stands for. we can put up with it. >> shannon: it's such a strange moment in time, this moment in history that we will look back on but there is great upheaval and some people

and bari weiss says it best here, guys, showing up to work as centrist. remember, she is not far right opinion writer. showing up to work at centrist at an american newspaper should not require bravery. apparently it did. she resigned and resigned in the most spectacular way i can remember anybody doing that in this business in a long time, guys. jedediah: the "new york times" acting editorial editor has some comment on the weiss resignation. he say she would do you make of that? >> prove it. let's see some opinions, tomorrow this weekend may represent the right. it's worth repeating the "new york times" has not endorsed a republican presidential candidate since 1956. that means you had to have endorsed carter in 1980 or mcgovern or d dukakis go down the line. this paper needs to prove that it actually has a balanced opinion section. it hasn't right now. i will leave you with this last thought. only one writer at the "new york times" went on social media yesterday to defend bari weiss, everybody else was silent. can you call that silence of the lambs, guy

what's your reaction to bari weiss' letter and her decision to go? >> i think she is the stuff that courage is made of. i think she understands that we are at a crossroads here in america and in other civilized western countries print this is about western civilization, and i think we are transitioning from being an open society to becoming a close society and we are asking what defines an open society, it is freedom. what defines a close society, it is fear. and it looks like "the new york times" opinion pages are adopting fear. >> martha: one of the other things that she says is that -- she calls at the twitter masthead. and twitter has become the ultimate editor. is a lot of truth to that, i think. social media is doing and it's really quite harmful. we are being led down a path toe twitter, but there's also a a lack of leadership. you read her letter, you're going to see all the bullying and the terrorizing that goes on and that good people are afraid to stand up and say anything, but the leaders, the people who are supposed to discipline, what i

elizabeth: right at same time the opinion editor bari weiss quit saying there is hard left intolerant culture censoring moderates and centrists. the times also hit with another problem. it has to do with ethics, ford. it is backtracking on a july 12th story that claimed anonymous 30-year-old guy who thought the covid-19 was a hoax, he was in san antonio. he died after going to a covid party. now the times updated his story it can't independently verify that story. san antonio health department says they can't verify it either. so, let's show the viewers, there is another question about ethics. "the times," ford, routinely changing its headlines after the fact but doesn't really inform the reader what it is doing about corrections or updates. we've been tracking this. show the viewer what we found. ford, your reaction to this? >> i think that we need to listen to bari weiss and what she is talking about "the new york times" wanting to pacify the far left and vocal minority on social media when it comes to its editorial page. unfortunately not just the editorial page. "the gray lady" al

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her name, bari weiss. she recently resigned after months of workplace harassment, hostility over -- she is not a conservative. at best, i would say, centrist views, willing to listen to the other side views, our left times employees calling her a nazi and a racist and a liar and a bigot, others demanding she be rooted out of this organization, while posting acts emojis next to her name in public forums, wow. weiss wrote "the far left twitter had become the ultimate editor of "the new york times"," concerns profoundly remove from the lives of most people. a perfect example of what i call and why i define the modern media as aia mob. the fake news media mob is now 99% of news outlets, media outlets, smears, lies, slander, libel,l, besmirchment, conspiray theories, hoaxes, here, they are, and everywhere. truth telling, nonexistent. they are all about advancing the far left, radical, socialist viewss of this new, extreme, democratic party, and they have outright contempt and hatred for all things president tru

breaking today, "new york times" columnist and editor bari weiss, she resigned today. she published a scathingin registration later writing, twitter is not on the masthead of "new york times" but twitter has become its ultimate editor. she wrote, "stories are chosen and told in the way that satisfies the narrowest of audience." she shed light on the bullying she faced in the result of reviews, her colleagues will call her a nazi and a racist for standing up for principle at the paper. put a target on your back. wow. it gets even worse from there. hear now what their reaction, former white house press secretary and fox news contributor ari fleischer. former arkansas governor, fox news contributor mike huckabee. i would imagine both you, you, ari, and both you, governor, don't have a love of "the new york times." we know how they treated you, ari, we know how they treated sarah huckabee, who will be governor in arkansas, i will gladly support the campaign. this is a beat down and very revealing. >> it's remarkable. you don't see someone that articulate speak about from t

bari weiss will go on to have a wholesome career and hired somewhere else or start her own outlet. i do think she raised a number of important points especially in seeing what happened over the tom cotton op-ed that appeared in the "new york times" where the editor who handled it was let go and replaced promptly. it is concerning to me. i obviously do want people to have a thorough exchange of ideas. i'm a liberal that appears with mostly conservatives as we can see on the panel and i relish that opportunity and to speak to people who might not agree with me to hopefully present a side or perspective that they hadn't considered. maybe vote for joe biden on november 3rd. but, at the end of the day, we need our institutions to be places where people can question and questioning for me is the key to all of this. it's made out as people who are about to get canceled are always just saying these horrible things and making broad declarations. but a lot of times people are getting in trouble for asking questions. and as to our last segment as to knowing our history, if we don't have the a

this of course comes in the wake of bari weiss resigning from "the new york times" and that resignation letter saying that twitter is not on the mass of "the new york times" but twitter has become its ultimate editor. and now the "los angeles times" has an op-ed out saying, it's time to cancel this star-spangled banner. and here's what should replace it, a song that is harder to saying, is this really what we want to hear when we rise to honor america? such songs celebrate monument mentality, and our current political predicament as her mentor within certain lines can be, how veneration of country can curdle into nationalism. our nationals nationalism can tilt towards fascism. it should be different than the one we got now, positing another kind of patriotism, and other kind of america and americanness. in fact, there is such a song. lean on me, a song that holds its gaze study at the level of everyday life. it says, what's important is the stuff happening down here. that's from the "l.a. times," back to the panel. mark, your thoughts on all of this? >> my first thought is i miss charle

people that have a column in "the new york times" but bari weiss had had enough. >> she had enough and she made it known. not only did she burn the bridge on her way out, she napalm day. this was a tactical nuke on the paper of record and everybody is talking about this in the journalism community today and here is why. resignation letter. "twitter has become its ultimate editor. the paper itself has increasingly become a kind of performance base for a very narrow audience and she's exactly right. you may remember just a couple of years ago, they eliminated their public editor position. what that is as protecting integrity at the publication and its executive editor set at the time we are going to rely on online comments and read your feedback in the stead. in other words, the mob is running the paper in the process for a paper that embraces diversity and talks about diversity so much prayer they don't embrace the most important diversity of all and that is the diversity of thought. >> dana: she's gone on to basically say she was bullied. we are going to be right back. ta-da! did you k

what did you think of that resignation of bari weiss from "the new york times" opinion page yesterday? >> you know, listen, i have tried to focus on covid right now. i am very sorry about what has happened to my old newspaper in the last two years. i think it used to be a place where reporters were encouraged to do the absolute best work they could come to find the facts wherever they lead, and i'm afraid that that's not what it is anymore. i hope it still is, but there has been a number of really discouraging signs. >> bill: such as? >> well, i think the fact that james bennett especially, to me, the resignation of james bennett, who is a great a journalist and a really fine guy, that he was forced to resign because he published in all better, or his page published an op-ed by a u.s. senator that's not something -- can agree or disagree. a lot of the countries certainly did agree, that that was considered essentially an offense that would lead to his resignation, not that there in a place where they want a lot of intellectual diversity. that is really troubling. >> bill: nice to see

intolerant of any views other than the super progressive view. >> unfortunately bari weiss is correct. the "new york times" for many years has been trending in that direction but ever since they published my op-ed and then they apologized for plusing the op-ed without citing a signal errors in it and heads rolled it has read like a left wing manifesto. i apologize to the viewers for pushing the "new york times" even farther to the the left. they were request going to cut the op-ed by 20%. maybe i should take credit for subjecting you to those editorials. ainsley: 63 were shot, 12 were killed last weekend. the violence continues there the top cop there his name is david brown. he's the chicago superintendent. and he says he had this big press conference yesterday and he showed this video of the attacks on police yesterday afternoon. all these mobsters or all these people -- i shouldn't say mobsters, all these protesters were walking toward the monument and then you have an organized group, according to the superintendent. the ones if you look at the video now. the ones with black umbre

bari weiss is one example. a letter published in harper's magazine by 153 intellectuals is another. i hope this will continue. we cannot have suppression of the first amendment in this country. the country was born on the first amendment. it is founded on the first amendment. it is vital. stuart: it is what we're all about. that is what america is. this is a free speech paradise. at least it was but i don't think it is any longer. liz, hold on for a second, i want to get back to you for a moment. get to money for a second. we have a very nice rally going on. up 250 for the dow. solid gains across the board. look at apple, please. that stock is up 6 bucks. 394 is the price. it scored a big win in europe. it won't an appeal that would have cost the company $15 billion to back taxes in ireland. didn't have to pay. it won. stock's up. big tech names are all up. not as much as apple by any means. facebook up three bucks. microsoft up a buck 31. so on down the line. listen to this, our next guest says, don't buy them. don't buy big tech right now. who is saying this? david bahnsen and he

ainsley: look at some of the other ones, gloria steinem, bari weiss opini on editor, and then noam chomsky , a political activist as well so you hear this from conservatives and now liberals are jumping on board and they say if you stifle the atmosphere, restrict public debate it's going to hurt those without power and make everyone less capable of democratic participation. steve: when you think about it over the last number of months and years since this kind of phenomenon has taken off on social media, a lot of conservative voices say why is it they're only doing the cancel culture towards conservatives? but you look at over the last recent period of time over the last week or so, j. k. rowl ing, famous for the harry potter books, she became a target because of some of her comments regarding transgender people and then you've got over the last couple of days where they've suggested that now that it's on display plus, hamilton, the musical should be canceled as well so it's interesting now the pendulum has swung the other way, so this letter with 150 voices, from predominantly the left, s