the next head that bobs up is bill stepien's. we'll see how that goes with what is sure to be a rough fall based on the polling that you just outlined. >> right. well, you make an important point. there's financial incentives probably of mr. parscale to say. and those may be the same incentives for somebody to push him. kelly o'donnell at the white house, thank you. >>> there's division across the country over whether schools should reopen this fall or remain virtual. los angeles is keeping students online as it sees the highest covid-19 hospitalization rates since the pandemic began. in neighboring orange county, the board of education vote 4 to 1 to allow students back in the classroom without requiring masks or social distancing. some schools in the county will not follow that recommendation. joining me from coasta mesa, erin mclaughlin. and i have to tell you, being an east coaster and a floridian, it was interesting to me that one county's decision didn't have the same type of authoritative decision over the schools the way

replacing parscale with deputy campaign veteran bill stepien. the president writing, brad parscale who has been with me for a long time will remain in his role while being a senior

this as the president demotes his campaign manager, brad parscale, overnight, appointing bill stepien to take over. kristen welker and ashley parker join us. kristen, there is a move by the campaign to promote stepien and demote parscale. who is running what? >> andrea, there had been so much criticism of brad parscale particularly in the wake of the tulsa rally where he overpromised and underdelivered. remember, he said they had gotten over a million responses. the president was left feeling as though that rally wasn't handled properly, didn't go off as planned, and that there needed to be a shift. the question is was bill stepien going to work around him, simply circumvent brad parscale or ultimately be elevated? we got our answer overnight. bill stepien is a longtime adviser to president trump, he's worked on the campaign, and of course he's a former campaign manager for former new jersey governor chris christie and he was mired in the bridgegate scandal. so he is no stranger to tough politics. but the question is, what happens next and will there really be a big messaging shift, b

whether it's bill stepien and brad parscale or 150 other names, the issue is trump. the secondary issue is trump. trump, trump and trump always. he's presided over a catastrophe in this country and really the unleashing of a type of national insanity. if you live in another country, for example canada or new zealand your kids will be going to school safely, but not in the united states. all the dreams that are shattered, all the lives lost it's because of one reason. it's because we have the grave misfortune to have someone mentally, intellectual deficient as a leader. he's the most ill-suited person to be in the middle of a life and death crisis in american history. it will take us years and years to dig out of this. he's behind joe biden because the american people are waking up to the folly that has ensued by putting this unworthy man into the highest office in the land. >> steve schmidt, i caught an article yesterday the gist of which is that american passports are useless right now. let's ignore for the moment that the pandemic has made travel unreachable, impos

brad parscale passing the baton essentially on to bill stepien and it is notable that brad parscale is not pushed out of the campaign entirely but senior adviser and going to be a much more diminished role than he had as campaign manager and still pretty intertwined with the family and the president doesn't like to push people out of the circle. he fears they'll say negative things about him and seems to be the case with brad parscale, as well. >> see how the dynamic plays out. demoted but still on board. kaitlan comllins, thank you for the reporting. >>> the president shaking up the campaign staff. this is the electoral map of 2016. president trump lost the popular vote but won the electoral college. one of the reasons the president is in trouble is because we're in the middle of a pandemic and dominating people's lives right now. how's trump handling the coronavirus? this flipped. 6 in 10 americans disapprove of how the president is handling. mistake in the graphic there. disapproval is high coming to the coronavirus. coming to race relations, as well. 51% for biden. 40% for trump. h

brad parscale, quien fue nombrado manager de campaqa en febrero del 2018, sera reemplazado por bill stepien. la decision del gobierno de ordenar a los hospitales enviar los reportes diarios de coronavirus al departamento de salud, en lugar de someterlos a los centros de control de enfermedades (los cdcs) ha causado criticas y suspicacias. varios expertos advierten que eso podria perjudicar la calidad de los datos y la respuesta federal a la pandemia.otros criticos temen que este cambio podria llevar al gobierno a darle un manejo politico a esta informacion en epoca electoral. luis megid con mas detalles. el proximo viernes, 17, sera n dia clave para cientos de padres migrantes que se encuentran en centros de detencion con sus hijos menores de edad.segun lo estipulado por una corte de california, esa es la fecha limite que tiene el gobierno para liberar a los niqos, y evitar que puedan contagiarse de coronavirus en los centros migratorios.pero como nos dice pablo gato, estos padres de familia enfrentan el dilema de que sus hijos podrian ser liberados, pero ellos no. en varios estados del pai

stepien, as long president trump has access to his twitter account and the president can continue to use the white house grounds as you know a pseudo campaign operation, and give campaign-style stream consciousness speeches from the rose garden not much is going to change because the president ishe one leading his campaign, not bill stepien and not brad parscale and even if sticking to the script and sticking to the narrative and putting together an argument for why they should re-elected, president trump is doing something completely different and that's going to make it veryficult for his campaign to rally around a single cohesive message over the next 100 days. robert: and jonathan, real quick, i want to pause here because i don't want toorget jonathan about what's going on this whole week with dr. fauci. i mean, this week, you had the president and his allies day after day asserting more control over information and the administration order hospital to bypass the c.d.c. and send patient informationo another data base. and vice president pence urged schools to reopen and take thei

the president moving brad parscale a aside, demoting him, and putting in a, well, bill stepien. what is your reaction to the president's decision? >> well, lou, it's a very good move for the campaign. this is about addition and not subtraction. brad parscale is going to focus on the digital operation and the data which is what he focused solely on in the 2016 winning campaign, and he did an amazing job at it. bill stepien was an important part of that 2016 operation, and now he's going to lead this operation for the next 109 days. i think there's going to be even more additions to the team to help bill, to help brad get to the finish line because this is about defining joe biden. it's a binary choice when november gets here between joe biden and donald trump. and this team, this team that the president is putting together must work together as a team, not as a bunch of individuals, but as a team. and i say that because in 2016 that was our strength, it really was. defeating hillary clinton took a team effort led by president trump, and i've got to tell you bill stepien's the man

so enter bill stepien, seasoned political hand. worked on john mccain's campaign 2018, was part of chris christie's political inner circle. so what does he bring to the table and what difference will we see? what visibly will change in the president's style or message? >> those are two really different questions. the answer to the second question is probably not that much. but bill stepien is a much lower-profile figure. he tends to stay out of the spotlight, out of the limelight. much lower profile and because he has been at the white house for the last few years, already has all of those pre-existing relationships, including with the president, including with jared kushner, because he had already moved over to the campaign and been evaluated to deputy campaign manager, he's been preparing to step into this role for a few weeks now. and when you add to that the return of jason miller, who did comes for the campaign in 2016, and has never been that far from the white house, although he couldn't go inside for personal reasons. but

less than 4 months before the election the man taking over his former deputy bill stepien the reshuffle comes as trump trails his democratic opponent joe biden by as much as 15 points in the polls. for social media platform twitter was hit by a massive hack dupes people into making bitcoin donations that affected some of the networks most high profile accounts including those of former u.s. president barack obama democratic presidential candidate joe biden microsoft founder bill gates and companies including apple and twitter is investigating the matter and has called it a major security breach it says the hackers after targeted some of its employees who had access to its internal systems. dollars look further into this and for that we're joined by spend happy he's director for international cyber security policy at the think tank shift the photo here in berlin he's works it works with various governments on cyber security issues when the question everyone is asking is my twitter account safe. well it is as safe with as it was before because the problem was is it wasn't really a heck of

changing out bill stepien for brad parscale may make differences in the internal process of the campaign. that's not fundamentally the issue here and why joe biden has got a lead in the polls, the issue is donald trump and his performance. >> thank you, john harwood. thanks to you as well. >>> there's more breaking news coming into the "situation room." a record number of deaths, and in florida, a growing number of hospitals are reaching capacity and intensive care. i'll talk about florida's worsening crisis with the mayor of miami standing by live. we'll discuss when we come back. did you know prilosec otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins? heartburn happens when stomach acid refluxes into the esophagus. prilosec otc uses a unique delayed-release formula that helps it pass through the tough stomach acid. it then works to turn down acid production, blocking heartburn at the source. with just one pill a day, you get 24-hour heartburn protection. prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. 49i found you! good job. now i'm gonna stay here and you go hide. watch your f

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bill stepien can't do all that much about that unless you get the president to change his approach. if you're a republican looking for good news here, it is that brad parscale was not an experienced campaign manager. he came of it the 2016 campaign which was unique and idiosyncratic and stepien is coming out of the more conventional politics like chris christie. maybe that can persuade the president to act differently but nobody is holding their breath on that. >> the poll shows some slippage for the president. you talked about approval on his handling of coronavirus among his core supports, rural voters and white voters without a college degree, but just his approval rating among republicans in general he's suffering a little bit. >> yeah. so in the approval i think we see that down to 84% among republicans. obviously still most republicans are with the president, john. but it's this little slippage that is actually significant. in the horse race, in the biden versus trump match-up he gets 84% of republican support. joe biden is in the 90s. so there's a little bit of erosion from k

so stepping into that role now is bill stepien. he was in charge, neil, no real stranger to us at white house here several years, was part of political shop, ran it at the white house beginning of the trump presidency. this was someone who very much stayed away from the limelight while here at the white house. he will have the single biggest role at the trump campaign. the campaign is defending this move. they say, they claim, not as reaction to the tough poll numbers everyone has seen. rather they will say stepien focuses on what he does best, running a political operation. parscale will focus what he does best, running a digital operation. watch here. >> first of all he is not demoted. what brad is focusing on is the digital strategy. he built something no one thought possible, raising money at clips at historic levels. bill stepien in his own right, smart, very talented, very politically savvy been in and out of this town his entire career. i'm looking forward to working with them both. reporter: should get more clarity from the

stepien and arnot bradscale and even if ivice president mike pencs sticking to the script and sticking to the narrative and putting together an argument r why they should be re-elected, president trump is doing something completely different and that's going to t makeery difficult for his campaign to rally around a single cohesive message over the next 100 days. robert: and jonathan,iceal i want to pause here because i don't want to forget jonathan about what's going on thisr.hole week with fauci. president and allies day the after day asserting more ntrol over information and the admintration ordered hospital to bypass the c.d.c. and send patient information to another data base. and vice president pence urged schools to reope and take their cues from the white house. >> very clear, we don't want c.d.c. guidance to be a reason why people don't reopen their schools. robert: and dr. anthony fauci was attacked in a "usa today" op-ed by peter navarro, one of the president's trade advisor. fauci responded in an interview with the atlantic. >> it is a bit bizarre. i don't really fully under

stepien the reshuffle comes as trump trails his democratic opponent joe biden by as much as 15 points in the polls. we have some breaking news now on one of facebook's main tools for transferring data between europe and the u.s. has been declared invalid now that's according to a court ruling out in the last few minutes europe's highest court says the social media network is failing to protect you user data by transferring it to the united states the social network can still continue to process data in the u.s. for now but the ruling represents a clear victory for the austrian citizen who brought the case against the internet giant. a classic case of david versus goliath. for more than 6 years austrian privacy campaigner max friends has fought facebook over its transfer of european user data to the u.s. he had one big win in 2015. european facebook user data has routinely been passed on to the u.s. over the years with american authorities able to access the data without much scrutiny depending on how this case is ultimately decided higher data protection guidelines may apply in the e.

stepien came under increasing pressure after a rally in tulsa last month just over 6000 people turned up despite more than 1000000 applications for tickets donald trump tweeted that pascal will remain on board as a senior advisor to his digital teams. the and. again i'm fully back to bill with the headlines on al-jazeera china has become the 1st major economy to report growth since the start of the kovac $1000.00 pandemic official data shows its economy grew 3.2 percent in the 2nd quarter 'd after shrinking the most in nearly 50 is katrina you has more from beijing. a chinese state media handling it as a time to celebrate as a sign of hope to other economies but we do also have to take this figure with a grain of salt it's difficult or impossible to verify that figure of course but definitely if you go walk around into the major cities in china and beijing included. shops and restaurants are open many people have returned to the office and travel restrictions have certainly also. eased to read you have groups now able to operate again domestically as well as say ceremony has been held

manager brad parscale will be replaced by his deputy bill stepien. the move comes as a new quinnipiac university poll gives joe biden a 57% to 36% lead over the president. it also said more americans trust biden's new a better job on the economy. scathing mary trump memoir about her uncle has sold a million copies on preorders alone. simon and schuster said the book ind a record 950,000 copies combined print, digital, and audio editions since earlier this week. another trump expose from john nearly 800,000 copies in the first week of its release. the president tried to block both books from coming out. judges in each case denied requests for injections. in a sign the coronavirus maybe dissipating in the city that was africa's first virus epicenter, health officials moved to reduce the capacity of a covid-19 field hospital in cape town. a decline in the number of patients from to the decision. nick woodman from the facility will be sent to other parts of the country, including johannesburg, where virus cases are surging. global news 24 hours a day, on

bill stepien takes over in parscale's place. spepien previously served as deputy campaign manager, also the political director for the trump transition team, he was, and a national field director during the 2016 cam page he will lead digital and data strategies and remains on as a senior advisor. breaking news now, primary candidates backed by president trump emerging victorious last night in two states. tommy tubberville, the former auburn football coach easily beat jeff sessions in alabama. the president campaigning against sessions as you probably well know. vigorously. tubberville will face doug jones in a closely watched race as all will be closely watched races this election day. ronnie jackson, former white house physician, beat out josh winegarthner, he's now the favorite to fill the seat of retiring congressman matt thornberry. up next, taxpayer funded institution pushing more division, bob woodson with us right after these quick messages. we'll be right back. paying for this for a long time. they will, but with acciden

stepien, who was just named deputy campaign manager back in may. the president said parscale will now be a senior adviser and continue to lead the campaign's digital strategy. in "the new york times" it's stated the changes were made in the last couple of days and was to be announced later this morning, but reporters started getting news late overnight. haberman said per skal was caught by surprise and learned of the changes only a short time before they became public. nbc news has learned other top staff were also caught off guard. the "washington post" reporting some officials were questioning why he was staying in florida instead of virginia where the campaign is headquarters. trump was upset over how much money brad parscale was making, but the consensus was the biggest toll he suffered in trump's eyes was the tulsa rally when there were thousands of empty seats after parscale announced the hype of several seats. stepien landed a job with the 2016 trump camp doing feed operations. when trump won, he became white house political director serving

nonetheless, he's turning to bill stepien to try to turn this around. he's sort of a no-nonsense political operative who came up in the campaigns of new jersey governor chris christie and has been in the trump orbit for some time and less dramatic and less of a public profile than brad parscale had. >> hey, doctor, we quoted you and showed videotape of you on this broadcast last night saying that a lockdown in a place like miami may be the only way to get the upper hand. it was then today that we learned that news that puts a lump in your throat that miami-dade is out of icu beds. in your view, is it time to get tougher? >> unfortunately, yes. but it's not just a matter of doing a lockdown. we have to set ourselves up to succeed if we do do a lockdown. in other words, we have to put in place those measures that we didn't put in place in the previous lockdown, and not just in florida, in many places. we have to see in order to get out of lockdown, we should follow at least the cdc guidelines of less than 10% positivity or, better even yet, the internatio

he demoted brad parscale and deputy campaign manager bill stepien is now leading the president's efforts to capture another term in the white house. these changes follow some disappointments fordihe smler than oklahoma. >>> at the live desk, george floyd's family is now suing four former minneapolis police officers over his death in federal court. we're learning that attorneys for floyd's loved ones called his killing part of a, quote, public health crisis. floyd died after derek chauvin pinned his neck to the ground for nearly nine minutes. he now faces second-degree murder charges. the city of minneapolis called floyd's death a tragedy and says that its attorneys are reviewing the ralawsuit. and police let reporters view body camera footage from two of the officers on the scene there, investigators say that chauvin's body camera fell to the ground and remained there for the majority of the time that they were with george floyd also. also reporters are saying in viewing the video, george floyd began to sob when he was pulled from his vehicle before he was pinned to the ground. >>> a vot

bill stepien will replace brad parscale, who will now be in charge of digital operations. here is trump campaign press secretary hogan gidley that decision. >> while the d.c. elite and the establishment and the media really care about the palace intrigue stories like this, it doesn't really affect the american people at all. titles consume so many here in the beltway bubble, for those at home they want to make sure their lives are better. let's be clear what happened here. the only thing that shifted was donald trump simply asked bill to steer the ship, and brad to man the guns. >> harris: this, as new national polling shows presumptive democratic nominee joe biden with a double-digit lead over the president. in an effort to chip away at biden's numbers, the trump campaign has a new ad out leadinlinking biden to the defee peace movement. watch. >> the radical left-wing marks agenda? defund the police, pressure or more towns to follow, and joe biden stands with them. cutting police funding? >> yes, absolutely. >> harris: the power panel now, jason meister, trump 2020 adviso

stepien parscale found himself in hot water after mister trump's disappointing rally in oklahoma where thousands of seats when empty and mister trump said he'd like to see less testing for the virus so i said to my people slow the testing down please. >>jim acosta reporting for us there tonight. >>russian cyber attackers are targeting organizations involved in developing covid-19 vaccines that according to security officials from the u.s. uk and canada in may the 3 countries issued an advisory warning of ongoing cyber attacks against organizations involved in the coronavirus response. officials say the hospital's research laboratories health care providers and pharmaceutical companies have all been hit. today the government's detailed activity by a russian hacking group called apt 29 which also goes by the name. the dukes or cozy bear of course cozy bear is one of the hacking groups linked to russia this believed to have interfered in the 2016 us election. >>our 4 zone forecast as we take a live look outside on this thursday night. it is a socked in golden gate bridge right here kron 4

demoting campaign manager brad parscale, replacing him with deputy bill stepien. a move that you don't hear about for a campaign that is happy with what they are seeing, especially three and a half months out from the election. on that note, two new national polling just out showing president trump in trouble. trailing joe biden by double digits. the nbc/"wall street journal" poll biden leads by 11. quinnipiac poll, biden's up by 15. joining me, david chalian, always a lot of numbers we can and do dissect in these polls. there are two that really jumped out to me. both having to do with the response to the pandemic. first in the pew poll, they asked, is the president helping or hurting efforts against covid? 62% said the president of the united states is making matters worse. in the nbc poll, they asked, what they want candidates to focus on more. 57% wanted more focus on the virus. not the economy and reopening businesses. what do you see here? >> well, in those two findings i think you see why joe biden's up double digits nationally, where you started, kate. tha

brad parscale who as you know recently stepped down as campaign manager, replaced by bill stepien, he said in a statement that the media is a criminal network that has very you few honest people. do you agree with that? criminal? you were a contributor at cnn for a while. are most of us criminals? are we breaking the law? how do you defend that? >> i don't, howie. that's not my opinion. that's not how i perceive the media. look, i like to give it back as much as i take it. and have some good, strong pushback. i think when we talk about some of the polls that are out there, i think there is a concerted effort to intentionally try to suppress president trump's vote. that's not how i refer to the media. i think most folks in the media are trying to do a good job. there are certain folks who are trying to suppress the president's vote, absolutely. howard: suppress the president's vote. all right. let me play for you a recent sit-down between the president and katherine hairrage. this is what a lot of people have been asking. >> why are african-americans still dying at the hands of law enf

but another interesting point here, we had bill stepien, his new campaign manager, held his first on the record briefing with reporters today, laying out a map of where things are, projecting real confidence about many paths to 270 delegates in november. and what struck me was it was really the same path they laid out for us about six months ago, looking at new hampshire, minnesota as states they could flip. little mention of the virus or that the entire election and mr. trump's popularity has completely shifted. it seems like a briefing from the before times today. >> and, susan, finally to you, a lot of people looking back at this week -- and it's been a long one, i'll give you that -- said the defining moment was the president describing the test he took for cognitive -- to look for signs of cognitive decay, and how he seemed to believe that acing it was either an academic or iq challenge. do you think too much was made of it and his answer, which has now launched a thousand memes and even more t-shirts? how do you process that moment in the long view of donald trump and his presi

and bill stepien who is a world class campaign manager into that spot i think puts them both in the spot that can help the president in the fall. it's like point guard to center and center to point guard. we streamlined the team. and brad is still an important part of the team. our polling, we think we're in good shape here's especially going through the battlegrounds there's a reason why joe biden is hiring up staff in minnesota and maine. there's a reason that joe biden is having to run advertisements. it's unprecedented, michael, for a democratic candidate in the general election to have to run ads. because jobe biden is anemic at best. in addition, michael, in addition to the numbers we're seeings published polls that gee by registered voters not likelies. but a 2% or 3% variance what we're seeing is joe biden moving farther to the left. i think this isn't making headlines, when you see the 72-point from the. william and saying trump behind him and that nonsense, the fact of the matter is biden is moving farther left. i never seen this in the general election -- >> yeah, i know that'

current deputy campaign manager bill stepien will take over. the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows biden has an 11-point lead among registered voters. >>> the niners and giants are teaming up to get the world talking about wearing those masks. they want to get the word out. pushing and launching the new public awareness campaign to distribute 200,000 cloth masks with giants and niners logos on them. they hope to produce double that amount. >>> the a's are certainly trying to make something good out of kind of a tricky situation in this . no fans in the stand, but they want to create a lot of excitement out there and might use some celebrity voices to help. how does an empty stadium sound? you have to make it lively. the chronicles are reporting the a's are tinkering with a lot of possibilities including piping up the drumming that is usually echoing throughout the bleachers. because the team's normal announcer callahan doesn't want to risk his own health this year, they thought about asking bay area celebrities to record player walk-up

he announced overnight that he's demoting brad parscale and putting bill stepien in his place. the move was widely seen as acknowledgement of trump's diminished standing, though the white house insisted otherwise. >> we believe this president has great approval in the country. >> reporter: parscale's only response has been this ominous tweet citing the book of roman. bless hose who persecute you, bless and do not krucurse them. now, jake, commenting on brad's departure, a senior white house official told cnn, brad's not the one going off message, brad's not the one refusing to wear a mask. he's not focused, referring to the president, everyone has told him that, nothing has changed. and when asked why brad he's is not doing coronavirus events, kayleigh mcenany said he's working on other things as well and will be doing other things next week and stand by to see if that actually comes to fruition, jake. >> any more plans with the goya beans? any more focus on that -- in the middle of a pandemic, it's very important that the president pose with cans of goya beans. >> yeah, it's s

bill stepien is the new campaign manager. he will serve as an adviser for the campaign's data and digital operations. this change comes hours after a new round of poll numbers that show the trump campaign struggling, to put it mildly. much more on all of it coming up. we're also reporting on an alarming new sign of the severity of these coronavirus outbreaks across our country, which as of tonight has now seen 3.5 million confirmed cases. this is bracing even if you have just a passing knowledge of florida. ten hospitals within miami-dade county, the state's main hot spot have no icu beds remaining. several other states including georgia have seen sharp increases in cases over the past few weeks. the state's republican governor this extended coronavirus restrictions until the end of the month. it limits the size of gatherings, it does not mandate masks. in fact, it explicitly bans cities and counties from mandating masks across the state of georgia. atlanta, of course, has born the blunt of georgia's outbreak. the city's mayo

bill stepien worked at the white house, the political adviser in 2018 during the midterms, which weren't exactly a great year for republicans, so there's some questions here, but he does certainly have a lot of political and veteran experience that he can bring to the campaign. i'm told just moments ago, he was at a staff meeting at their rosalind headquarters, parscale was thanked for his work and parscale will stay on in the data and digital role. it will be fascinating to see in the next few months how the two work together and what if anything really changes. >> monica al barks thank you very mu alba, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >>> monica, it's ellison in florida. i was in jacksonville yesterday talking to people there, and there was a lot of talk about the convention, what it will look like, if it happens, if it should happen. i know you've done extensive reporting on the convention. do you think this departure will change anything in terms of the convention? what do you think it will look like if it takes place at the end of august? >> it's a great question, ellison. ral

stepien. parscale found himself in hot water after mr. trump's disappointing rally in oklahoma where thousands of seats went empty and mr. trump said he would like to see less testing for the virus. >> so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. >> reporter: as for dr. fauci, some trump advisers appear to be getting the message that the infectious diseases expert is more trusted than the president. one senior trump adviser told me some of the latest polling has gotten their attention adding, quote, i think when over 60% of the public trusts fauci on covid-19, that should be taken in consideration. but wolf, no sign yet that the white house is ready to take the muzzle off of dr. fauci when it comes to national tv interviews, he's continuing to do interviews like the one he did on facebook today. in georgetown a couple of days ago, fauci says he still feels like he's getting his message out, just not the way he would like, wolf. >> we would welcome him, obviously, back on "the situati

stepien will take over that role. president said parts cali will keep his role has been leading debt digital and data strategies and also as a senior adviser to the campaign he's been in the crosshairs though for several weeks ivanka trump and jared kushner reportedly furious with him for a smaller than expected crowd at the president's rally in tulsa oklahoma last month. the announcement comes at a time when the president is trailing joe biden by double digits. september scali will both part of the president's 2016 campaign. and this just and more than 1.3 million americans applied for unemployment benefits last week this new jobs number comes as the country sees a surge in coronavirus cases across the country. so far 22 states have either paused to reverse their disk in his decisions to reopen the economy and more than 17 million americans currently out of work. but that number dropped by nearly half a million since last week. >>a live look outside at sfo the sun's coming up so it's a much brighter shot we have a cl

stepien. the shakeup comes as opinion polls continue to suggest democratjoe biden has a significant lead ahead of november's election. the latest figures on china gdp's growth have been published. china's economy grew 3.2% in the second quarter from a year earlier. the growth was faster than the 2.5% forecast by analysts in a reuters poll, and followed a steep 6.8% slump in the first quarter, the first such contraction since at least 1992 when quarterly gdp records began. we'll have more on that story in business in about 20 minutes' time. after weeks of relentless rainfall across south asia, more than a hundred people have died, and millions have been affected. in bangladesh, bhutan, india, myanmar and nepal, monsoon floods and landslides have destroyed homes and submerged entire villages. sophia tran—thomson has this report. monsoon season. at this time of year it is an annual occurrence in many parts of asia. already this year at least 50 people have been killed and more than 2 million af

i think that parscale put in place a good campaign and trusting bill stepien to continue it is a good thing. there's still time to make a change here but you don't narrow the gap in a short period of time. it just -- it takes weeks to do it, but i think it hit bottom and hopefully it will be moving in the right direction. >> i don't dispute you on there's time to change this. without a doubt there's time to change this. 2016 tells us that and 2016 tells us be careful about the polls. a good campaign manager bill steppien, knows a lot about the suburbs, a good campaign manager can help and a good pollster like the two of you can help but only if the candidate gets it close. that's up to the candidate so i want you to look at another set of numberses. things in the nation are headed in the right direction or wrong track. 72 in this nbc/"wall street journal" poll say things are going on the wrong track. only 19% say the country is going in the right direction. you see the increase in wrong track since march. neil doesn't like my car analysis. maybe there's a better one, but if you have a

i think that one of the things that bill stepien, the new campaign manager and the team around the inner circle around the president will have to do is force him in some way or another or try to force him to become more disciplined. he became more disciplined in the final weeks of the 2016 campaign and democrats are cognizant of that fact. but so far particularly because of this pandemic he seems incapable of doing that, and he wants to talk about anything other than what is most on people's minds and that is the health and safety of themselves and their families. nia makes the point about the lafayette square, in our survey, the president has a deficit of 25 points on race relations and also a significantly smaller but still a deficit on crime and safety. so in all the ways he seems to be trying to make the argument against biden, it is not working and on the big issue, he's indifferent. >> and nia, the flip side of that is that joe biden has this enormous opportunity now, but big decisions ahead, scaled back convention, vice presidential pick. there is -- we have to watch a lot to see

now the president has put bill stepien in charge of the campaign. most of the president's assets and liabilities flow from himself, donald j. trump, his behavior as a president, his behavior as a candidate. you get shake-ups like this when someone is trailing badly. >> we have a little more time, john. i thought we lost you there for a second. just in terms of -- what happens to brad parscale now? he says he's been demoted. is he still with the campaign? >> reporter: yes, he's still with the campaign, his skills at data analysis were something the president valued in 2016 and i imagine he will put him to work on that basis in 2020. not getting thrown entirely out of the tent, but clearly a big change in status. >> john, thanks again, really appreciate it, john harwood. let's check in with chris and see what he's working on for "cuomo prime time" at the top of the hour. chris? >> anderson, we hope we can take the president at his word, finally, that he's not trying to run fauci out, fauci is on his team, we saw the vp take a picture with fauci showin

stepien, someone unlike parscal, has a long list of presidential campaign experience. he was also a top aide to new jersey governor chris christie before being fired amid the bridgegate scandal, although he was never charged. let's bring in nbc news white house correspondent peter alexander. interesting to note, stepien was first brought into the campaign by jared kushner. what does this change and what doesn't it change? >> yeah, chris, a good question. the bottom line is everybody knows that donald trump ultimately is his own campaign manager, right? but this is significant for a variety of reasons. it's the most, i guess, public acknowledgment by the president's inner circle, by his campaign that something isn't working, that they need to make a change with fewer than four months before the election here. worth noting also, kellyanne conway, she took over the post in august, mid-august of 2016. so it's been done before by donald trump and worked the last time. will it work this time? the campaign insists that this is a good thing, that they're trending in the right

he's named veteran republican operative bill stepien as his campaign manager. stepien replaces brad parscale, whose already shaky relationship with trump crumbled further after the poor turnout at the rally in tulsa, oklahoma. he was informed of the change by trump's senior adviser and son-in-law, jared kushner. >>> trump says peter navarro was speaking for himself when he slammed dr. anthony fauci. vice president pence seemed to show support by tweeting a picture of fauci. but it was the white house who started the anti-fauci attacks. abc's jonathan karl has been working to get to the bottom of this one. >> reporter: after enduring days of attacks by white house officials, some named, some not, the usually mild-mannered dr. anthony fauci said, enough is enough. >> let's stop this nonsense and figure out, how can we get our control over this now? >> reporter: the latest shot from the white house, peter navarro, a man who advises the president on trade but has no medical experience whatsoever, published a short article in "usa today" saying, "anthony fauci has b