bob: good morning. i'm bob costa, a national political reporter at the "washington post." welcome, dr. anthony fauci. dr. fauci is the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases at the nih and a member of the president's task force on the pandemic. as you might have seen, he threw out the first pitch on opening night when the nationals played his hometown new york yankees. dr. fauci, we appreciate your time. pandemic. as you might have seen he threw out the first pitch on opening nationals played his hometown new york yankees. dr. fauci, we appreciate your time. >> thank you, bob. good to be with you. curve? was this a flat >> it went in the wrong direction. i joked around after and said i be a shortstop when i and i ball as a young boy thought i was supposed to throw to first base. [laughter] bob: we won't hold it against you, doctor. here's my first pitch. both glad baseball is back, but is it too soon? i don't think so, bob. if it's done carefully. at the protocols that major league baseball has protect both to the players and other personnel

there, bob?l bob: i'm here. gov. murphy: i lost your shot there. it is -- [no audio] bob: we are having a little bit of a technical difficulty here. we will get this going in a second. we are all doing our best during this pandemic. it is not easy. you may have heard a sound earlier in the interview, it was my mailman putting in some mail through the door, so we are all doing our best working from home as best we can. governor, are you still with us? we are back with governor murphy. appreciate your patience, governor murphy. gov. murphy: i appreciate your taking one for the team. bob: i thought maybe you were trying to escape some questions about president trump, technical difficulties, but i am glad you are back. [laughter] gov. murphy: thank you, bob. just kidding. bob: understood. let's talk about president trump. what is your level of communication with him at this moment? he seemed to be consulting you and governors a lot early on. is that still the case? gov. murphy: we haven't had as much direct contact in the past couple of weeks, what i d

bob: dr. fauci, when is, then, the absolute earliest a vaccine might be widely available to the general public? dr. fauci: i think the keyword there is widely available. i think we'll likely know whether a vaccine is safe and effective given the number of -- trails s this that are starting next week and some that are ongoing, we should know by the end of december this year, the beginning of next year. there are some companies that claim that might be a month or two sooner. i'm a little skeptical about that. but you know, anything is possible. but i think it's going to be toward the end of the year. but the crux of your question is widely available. it is likely that in the beginning of next year we would have tens of millions of doses available. the companies who are involved in making these vaccines, many of which the federal government is in deep collaboration with, promise that as we get into 2021, there will be hundreds of millions of doses and maybe sometime thereafter billions of doses.

bob: the last time i interviewed in person. you said you would stay on the job as long as the present trump once you predict shooting when the election pretty when you serve in the second term. sec. of state mike pompeo: it will be up to the president. believe me when i said last year, i believe folks will have skepticism with what i have to say as well. it's incredible privilege to get to serve the mark in people. and do everyday in that house that increase in the markets opportunity to have the freedoms that we have. because of the exceptional unique nation. president trump asked me to serve in the second administration. if he did, it would be truly an honor. bob: if that be the case, what would be your second term agenda. and obviously want to talk about what you've done now. maybe that was abusing the germans say but what was going forward, you do an effective trump. sec. of state mike pompeo: the global mission to secure the freedom. the biggest challenge for the second term of the national security perspective, certainly

bob: dr. fauci, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, bob. for having me with you. bob. . thank you. *- >> thank you for joining us. everyone is on the edge of their fauci.istening to dr. i know i was. next week we'll continue pose live having more of these in conversations. we'll have two vice presidential hopefuls, mary trump about her new book and former new jersey will allchris christie be at "washington post" live. that's it for now. program has concluded, thanks again for joining us, and have great weekend. >> follow the federal response to the coronavirus outbreak at c-span.org/coronavirus. watch congress, white house briefings, and updates from governors. track the spread throughout the .s. and the world with interactive maps. watch on-demand at any time unfiltered at c-span.org/coronavirus. >> earlier today house speaker other elosi and democratic members held a news passage e to argue for of more economic aid due to the coronavirus

bob: dr. fauci, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, bob. fork you and thank you for joining us. we really appreciate you taking the time to listen to the conversation. everyone is on the edge of their seat listening to dr. fauci. i know i was. next week, low -- we will have more in-depth conversations. of these in conversations. we'll have two vice presidential hopefuls, mary trump about her new book and former new jersey will allchris christie be at "washington post" live. that's it for now. this announcer: follow the federal response to the coronavirus outbreak at c-span.org/coronavirus. watch congress, white house briefings, and updates from governors. track the spread throughout the u.s. in the world with interactive maps. watch on-demand, anytime, unfiltered, at c-span.org/coronavirus. panelcer: next, a house hears from manufacturing and supply sector officials about the effect of the coronavirus uncritical supply chains. they look at china's global rolehu

bob: thank you. and thank you all for joining us and having patients -- and we deal withce as working from home and skype connections. but we had a good conversation and we will continue having good conversations. join us monday at 1:00 eastern. my colleague, who has done terrific interviews, he will interview new mexico's governor. tuesday at 3:30 eastern, rice,an will host susan the former national security advisor, who is in the mix to be vice president biden's running mate. toto washingtonpostlive.com register for the live streams and find out more about those programs and others. have a good day. the republican and democratic party and the campaigns of president trump and joe biden are adjusting plans for next month's political conventions, already reshaped by the pandemic. the democrats will convene for a scaled-back convention in milwaukee, starting august 17. the republicans begin their convention the following week, august when he fourth, in charlotte, north carolina. the democratic and repu

>> yes. >> reporter: except bob moses? >> except bob moses. he was very general, very vague. >> reporter: with the frisco pd detective on the stand, walker played bob's interviews with police. >> what did you do from the time you woke up to -- >> i mean, i probably took the dog for a walk. >> reporter: remember, bob said he'd been at home most of the day and into the evening. but on the stand, bob's housemates all said they couldn't vouch for him. >> do you ever remember seeing bob moses in the house? >> i would say no. i -- i was rarely in the house. >> so, on january 13th, you don't remember -- >> i don't remember seeing him at all. >> reporter: the prosecutor said bob's whereabouts couldn't be confirmed until he appeared on that restaurant video at 7:00 p.m. the texas ranger told the jury anna was killed an hour earlier. >> i knew she had left work, her office around 5:00. >> reporter: he mapped out her final trip using videos from the security cameras on her route, including that video from a neighbor's camera right near anna's home. >> sh

and i was like, "bob, yeah, why bob? he doesn't look like a bob." and now he's famous. [laughs] >> bob now has a new purpose in life, thanks to odette. once a week, the pair head off to school together, with bob in the passenger seat. >> i have had the reaction like, "oh, is he real?" like, people really think he's fake. so they think i run around with a fake flamingo next to me, which is also fine. >> now comes one of odette's favorite moments. >> oh my god. >> promoting animal welfare, with bob as her sidekick. after a quick introduction, the children and flamingo get better acquainted. the children are much shyer than bob, who is well versed in these meet-and-greets. odette spent months training him. >> the message is to make children fall in love with the wildlife. he's an ambassador, so through him, they will have a little bit more understanding of what they will see in the wild. >> she then teaches them about plastic waste and animal conservation. a discarded old kite can be a death trap for flamingos and other animals. >> a l lovely big flamingo lie bob could get

bob: we have a few minutes left. you got a lot of people talking this week when it was announced you're going to be speaking on friday in iowa, which obviously is a key state. as a presidential run a possibility in your future? sec. pompeo: i always think it is funny, if i traveled to new or some corridor state, nobody says a word. when i travel to america's heartland, everybody has some secondary case about why mike pompeo traveled there. i think everyone should hear from the secretary of state. that is why i'm headed out to talk to them. i'm also doing it on the heels of tomorrow, which puts me in philadelphia where i'm going to announce the results of the commission on an lynn noble rights. -- inalienable rights. i want to go back to america's heartland, back to the playset under since the founding of american in such a deep and fundamental way and talk about religious freedom and property rights and all the things you will see in the street or that ground american or and policy incentive understandings, declarati

bob: we've got a lot of readers, dr. fauci, who are very interested in hearing from you on different fronts. of them, from kansas, do you projections about the combination of covid-19 and the during the fall and winter? >> certainly, if we get anything resembles a typical will be season, there complications and confounding because then you would have, we have covid in the fall and winter, which is likely we will, i hope we have a little bit and not a lot, but almost of it,ly we'll have some that if you have too circulating respiratory diseases it makes things more complicated. for that reason one of the do is to make sure that we get as many people influenza as we possibly can, because that would ultimately help to mitigate of those least one two potential recirculating respiratory diseases. going to complicate the situation, and the question that is a very ad important question. of vaccinations we live in a time where things gain traction on social media. will you get people to sake the vaccine whether it's for the texa

name a flamingo bob i don't look up all the mcguire bob only look like a bob there oh and now he's famous. bob now has a new purpose in life thanks to odette. once a week the pair head off to school together. with bob in the passenger seat. belt i'm not talking reaction like oh if you go back people really think you speak so they think i just want to round with me putting others to me which is also right . now comes one of odets favorite moments. like for. promoting animal welfare with bob as her sidekick after a quick introduction the children and flamingo get better acquainted. the children are much shyer than bob who is well versed in these meet and greets odette spent months training him. the most which is to make children fall in love with the well so that it's using the best of their true. will have and do a bit more understanding of what they will see in the world she then teaches them about plastic waste and animal conservation a discarded old kite can be a death trap for flamingos and other animals. also maybe a left wing pig flamingo like bob could get tangled up in this and wou

with bob in the passenger seat. i'm a reaction like oh if you go back people really think he's fake so they think i just want to round with a putting others to me which is also funny. now comes one of odets favorite moments . for. promoting animal welfare with bob as her sidekick after a quick introduction the children and flamingo get better acquainted. the children are much shyer than bob who is well versed in these meet and greets odette spent months training him. mostly just to make children fall in love with. using the best of their true you know have a good bit more understanding of what they will see in the world she then teaches them about plastic waste and animal conservation a discarded old kite can be a death trap for flamingos and other animals. a lovely big flamingo like bob could get tangled up in this and wouldn't be able to escape he'd be crying help her house now. with bob there the message really gets across. is i think we need to take better care of animals. and winter for sure. plastic isn't good

bob: yes. this defined america, we spontaneously respond to those in need and that's the real america, there's inlets examples of that kind of resilience of when we see it we ought to celebrate. a mother with two daughters sleeping in her car in a homeless shelter and the kids are sitting by the light of the cell phone, and these kids graduate with honors. valedictorian, saluted victorian and they started college sophomores because they have so many advanced courses. they should be headlining at every conservative banquet, we should be writing about them. we should be inquiring of her and the kids, how did you do this. mark: bob woodson, not just conservatives. this ought to be on cable tv, every now and then let's say something positive about the people of this country. when we come back i have a question for you. bernie sanders says, he says it constantly, america is racist from top to bottom. i want you to answer bernie sanders when we come back. sanders when we come back. we'll be right bac

hey, uncle bob, where is the mask? uncle bob, i don't believe in it. so the whole thing starts to take shape. >> a number of counties have already paused their next phase of reopening. here now, in alameda county the health department is holding off in indoor dining salons. today gyms and bars were spoetsed to reopen in contra costa county. that's been delayed. marin counties have scaled back their reopenings. here in dublin, safe fireworks only allowed in neighborhoods with single-family homes that. means people will not be allowed to set off those in apartment complex, parks or schools. again, safe and sane like these behind me on sale in dublin, they're legal. the types of fire works that explode and launch and fly into the air, those are not. reporting live here in dublin, bob redell, nbc bay area news. >> bob, thank you. we do have promising news for you this midday, surrounding the potential coronavirus vaccine. that vaccine was developed by pfizer along with german biotech company biontec. after 28 days patients developed higher levels of covid-

bob dole at the time was 73. had he won he would have been the oldest person ever elected to the office of the presidency. >> wisdom comes from age, experience and intelligence. and if you have some of each and i have some age and some experience and some intelligence, that adds up to wisdom. >> bob dole was 73 in that recording. president trump is 74 right now. joe biden is 77. the same age ronald reagan was at the end of his two-term presidency. president trump says he's too busy to throw out the first pitch at a yankees game in august. video of him at game five of the world series back when people could actually go to baseball games. the president says he'll reschedule. over the weekend president trump re-tweeted a tweet his campaign made back in april criticizing president barack obama for golfing. shouldn't do it during a pandemic, the message said. also this weekend, president trump went golfing. the white house distributed this picture of the president and former quarterback brett favre out on the links. t

>> what do you know about bob ross? >> i'm painting my happy little trees right now because shirleen allicot is back for day two. >> no mistakes, only happy accidents. >> for those in new york city who watch shirleen on wabc, we are just -- she's on loan, just for a little bit. >> i'm just on loan. i am sitting here, keeping my seat warm for the lovely and talented mona. >> shirleen, we better still see you on wabc, don't worry. >> yes, i'll be returning there. i love you, but i don't love you that much. >> you'll still be able to see her on wabc after we steal her away. she's going back to the other ken, her co-anchor, soon. >>> the latest developments as the country sets a grim new record. more than 62,000 confirmed cases of covid-19 in a single day. >> that brings the nationwide total to more than 3 million with a death toll topping 130,000. >> face masks are now required outdoors in new jersey when social distancing is not possible. the same goes for atlanta where the mayor issued an executive order mandating face c

the collision of politics and sports in america with legendary sportscaster bob costas on this is politics. politicking on larry king on this edition the intersection of politics and american sports and the risks and rewards of playing during a pandemic we'll have an in-depth one on one interview with the legendary sponsor guest joe bob cautious a man who knows his stuff and speaks his mind he's in the hall of fame he's an emmy award winner he's also been the prime host of 11 olympics he joins us from california a bottomless good right into his do you ever remember a time in history when sports and politics has been so intertwined no not as her face of of course muhammad ali was a singular figure of global influence and the 960 s. as we both remember were of very very contentious period of time yet tommie smith and john carlos with the race facility the 1968 olympics in mexico city a lot of young athletes protested the war in vietnam some were part of the counterculture bill walton 'd an extremely likable man nonetheless had some countercultural ideas which many agreed with so that was a p

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nobody here bob thank you bob i'm a jew the reason is that i've been because the mother wants you to live that it is not what i do i mean that was the decision i suddenly saw here let me wonder why the family well no no no no don't think of it it was only a little. night and i was undone saying you. know what. i mean the woman how he wasn't but you know i knew nothing. now and i am think. i was not about to give out. c c loud let. him go by. himself so i had a number still that i have now i live the way i feel i'm nothing too soon yeah i was just really mystified identity away all the while but hold on i added in the fray that can't be stopped i am wouldn't want to end up meaning to the notion of it's just a lot of nothing i think but you know i was doing my well and it will go bob yeah let her know that i'm somebody son i'm not the one i'm not sure no one else i know you love them i know it's the old you do what's up again this is the 2 ways that i don't want them that i was the one i didn't like that night i was at the out the way the babus hahaha below it it was yeah that was mine

and just it's been great to be a crew member with chris an bob. on a day-to-day basis supporting i.s.s. operations, supporting science, supporting maintenance. the space walks, the four space walks these guys did. the robotics we did. it was just -- just an incredible experience. one that i will absolutely never forget and always cherish. >> thank you. so next up, we have russell pounds from pacific rim media. >> good morning. i'm not sure which one of you may have had this experience but there's a quote i've always appreciated from arthur c. clarke that says any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. the question is, what experience did you have that gave you that a-ha feeling and embodies that notion of the first gasp of delight? thanks. >> it's an interesting question. i think to really put smog out there as so advanced technologically we would have to describe it as magic in the way it works, i think for all three of us, i personally am from the show-me state, missouri if something like that was to happen to me and i

see you next week, bob. that is it for us tonight, bob. thank you for being with us. tomorrow night white house chief of staff mark meadows joins us. my new book we recommend to you, highly, "the trump century." how our president changed the course of history forever. it is available for preorder at "the trump century".com. that is "the trump century".com. thanks for being with us, we'll see you here tomorrow. good night from sussex. ♪ >> welcome to the evening edit. i am elizabeth mcdonald. . staying on this developing news story happening this hour. president trump and the president of mexico will soon make a joint press statement at the white house. we have this late breaking news coming in. the u.s. joining most of the world and further tightening borders to do covid-19 risks. the administration now proposing denying asylum to people who travel to the u.s. from

bob: we will see. we closed the deal in the middle of june, so we are getting to know the operational little bit better. behink double-digit should feasible. said you you recently see large-scale growth in your industry. with covid delay that? bob: i think covid-19 will probably make a lot of brand -- clearly if you are part of a well diversified portfolio, which is well balanced between the on premise and off premise, you know, you have a much better chance at weathering the financial crisis coming out of it. francine: we talked a lot about diversity, especially in the last six months. what have you learned about diversity and how do you look at it different for come pari -- for campari? bob: diversity for campari is not your regular diversity, where people think about sexual orientation, religion, gender. we also see it in terms of diversity of thought and diversity of style, and that his bennett invented -- that has benefited us during the lockdown because we were able to interconnect all the great

. >> thanks bob. so now we have chris davenport from the washington post. >> i hope you are well. quick question, obviously this is the first water landing since 1975 and i was curious if you've spoken to any of the apollo astronauts about that and what advice they may have given you and also i was wondering if you could talk a little bit about your training and how much was dedicated tosplashdown given the differences from a shell landing . >> morning chris. we didn't talk specifically with the apollo astronauts that i remember specifically when i was still for i was even assigned to this flight pe working at flight operations reading that after action reports from the skylab astronauts was a little bit more applicable and that those flights were longer. and you know, the water landing portion of it is pretty challenging from a physiological standpoint just after coming back from being in microgravity on the order of 1 to 2 months and i think the longest skyline mission was three months which is terry similar to what bob and i are doing. obviously there was him challenges, post s

bob: that is the thing. we track the short side of the market, we have no dog in the race, we just keep score. this stock encapsulates a lot of short cc's that have been successful in the past. there is also a whiff of facebook. when that company came public, it was $36 a share, went down to 16. there was a lot of doubt about the execution skills of the management. low and behold, that turned out not to be a good bet. the same thing with tesla. there at the point of turning a profitability, they have a cult status among shareholders, can they make it profitable? shortllion in unhedged bets that say they cannot. vonnie: they have been around for a long time, products are on the road, many more of them all the time in fact. it is now a well-established company. not so well established is taking something from the playbook is niccola. tell us about what you have learned by studying that particular company. bob: niccola is fascinating. caps a $14 billion market company that has a business plan. when you execute

, bob you like musketeers? teslarean? what's your name for the bullish tesla people, phil do you have one -- >> teslafarians. >> that's pretty good. on the other side you have teslaquers >> you hear from both of them. joe, i think the most interesting thing, i'm not going to get into whether tesla shares are over valued or not you can sit here and discuss that all day long. bob makes some great points on that i think the issue that he touched on is the one that ought to be of concern for the rest of the auto industry. they know that they have to catch tesla in terms of technology and in terms of the styling of the vehicle that they bring out, and for years they sat there and said, trust us, we're going to come out with these vehicles so far they have swung and missed repeatedly. it is time for them to either step up or stop talking. and we're going to find out with the gm hummer and we're going to find out with the electric pickup truck coming from gm and ford and the other automakers. overnight we'll hear from

see you next week, bob. that is it for us tonight, bob. thank you for being with us. tomorrow night white house chief of staff mark meadows joins us. my new book we recommend to you, highly, "the trump century." how our president changed the course of history forever. it is available for preorder at "the trump century".com. that is "the trump century".com. thanks for being with us, we'll see you here tomorrow. good night from sussex. ♪ maria: good thursday morning, everyone, thank you so much for joining us. welcome, i'm maria bartiromo, thursday july 9th, top stories 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. protecting americans data from china. secretary of state mike pompeo saying the u.s. will take action to make sure chinese communist party cannot access private information through social media accounts and telecom services. president trump ready to take additional action against china. we are taking a look at what to expect. coronavirus cases on the rise, arizona, california, texas and florida among the states still seeing cases surge. markets this morning are lower, looki

reporting live in dublin, bob redell, "today in the bay." >>> all right, bob, thank you. as covid-19 cases climb nationwide, the lines are getting longer at testing sites like this one you see right here in dallas. the positivity rate is rapidly rising in texas as tens of thousands of people are getting checked. the rate is currently 14%. now that's more than double the rate here in california but we're seeing those lines here for people getting tested to start to grow as well as the bay area reopens. "today in the bay" shows us what's behind the sudden desire to get tested and why it's a good thing. >> reporter: cars line up at cal state east bay. drivers are waiting for covid-19 tests. >> it was busy all day. >> reporter: hayward firefighter nichols said so many people showed up they had to close the line to complete testing by 4:00. demand has doubled since last week. >> people need notes to get back to work. that's one reason. with more people doing gatherings and things like that, that would make more people uneasy, maybe feeling like they've been exposed to covid. >

thanks, bob. appreciate it. >>> a reminder before we go to break, "the trump century: how our president changed the course of history forever," it is already available for preorder, and you can, well, you can beat the crowds. you can preorder your book at thetrumpcentury.com, amazon.com and barnes and noble.com. us from that trait liberals -- frustrate liberals, save the republic. we could use a little help, right? we're coming right back. stay with us. t's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. . . . . if your gums bleed when you brush you may have gingivitis. and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums and possibly tooth loss. help turn back the clock on gingivitis with parodontax. leave bleeding gums behind. parodontax. ♪. lou: here's president trump in midland texas, just moments ago warning americans what is now the clear and present danger of radical democrats. >> the radical democrats want to destroy, they want to destroy our country.

what does this number tell us both a technical level and then on a more fundamental profound level bob well at a fundamental level a hash is you know computation of one of the instances of a competition which could be a big claim block right so that's a hash is. i have to look at the site prefix for x a but it's the 18 it's an awful lot of hashes per 2nd. so what this means is that the we have recently had a hash read it just meant so every 2 weeks because it just sits it's hash rate target. and it went up by quite a bit you know last though i have difficulty readjustment what this means is that miners who are probably some of the most economically invested participants in the ecosystem are betting strongly on on bitcoin this means a couple of things that means so 1st of all there's a new generation of quick meant which is up to $100.00 terror hashes for 2nd per minute device at about $3000.00 watts. 2nd of all it means that those producers of bitcoin blocks have found cheaper sources of power you know there's been a gold rush of sorts looking for cheaper and cheaper sources of power y

thank you bob, appreciated. i reminder before we go to break, the trump century, however, president change the course of history forever, it's already available for preorder, you can beat the crowds, you can preorder your book at thetrumpcentury.com, amazon.com and barnes & noble.com, frustrate liberals, save the republic. we could use a little help right, we're coming right back, stay with lou: here is president trump in midland texas moments ago warning americans about what is now the clear and present danger of radical democrats. >> the radical democrats want to destroy it and want to destroy our country. these people are sick. they are sick and you better get used to hearing it. because they have some real problems, they don't love our country. in any way shapee or form, they do not love our country. there is no respect for the american way of life. lou: president trump and that is it for us tonight, fcc commissioner brendan carr, byron york, michael pillsbury among our guest tomorrow. we hope you will join

and bob hope hosted the evening entertainment at the washington monument. this u.s. information agency reports covers the celebration. missing is any mention of antiwar protesters who waited naked in the reflecting pool and were later tear gassed by the police. richard: this is richard slater in washington, d.c. each year for the past 194 years, americans have celebrated the esry anniversary of their independence here and in thousands of towns and cities throughout the united states. this year's fourth of july celebrations were something special. americaonwide "honor day," as it was called, was a nonpolitical observance with leaders of both political parties taking part. americans from all walks of life took the opportunity to find the common ground and affection for the country and to share that affection with others. the "honor america day" program was simply a celebration of the 194th anniversary of the day on which the colonies of north america declared that they were from that time an independent nation. they based the national independence on the concept of ind

welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to bob is a theoretical physicist 1st in engineering the universe and remaking my bob welcome philippic you are great to have you on i've been following your work for a number a year sia at conferences every now and then and this is great to have you on now the bitcoin hash rate is currently at $125.00 x. sas what does this number tell us both a technical level and then on a more fundamental profound level bob well at a fundamental level a hash is you know computation of one of the instances of a company which could be a big claim block right so that's a hash is. i have to look at the site prefix for x a but it's the 18 it's an awful lot of hashes per 2nd. so what this means is that the we have recently had a hash read it just meant so every 2 weeks because it just sits it's hash rate target. and it went up by quite a bit no last though i have. difficulty readjustment what this means is that minors who are probably some of the most economically invested participants in the ecosystem are betting strongly on on bitcoin this

bob: i think so. this is less about buying bonds and more about an affordable funding rate for a recovery across corporate america. i do expect that. jonathan: walk me through how you would play the rest of the curve. many think we can get a steeper curve. are you looking for the steamroll to go out over the long end? bob: i think it is nonsense the curve is going steeper here. while i don't think this central reserve will take policy rates negative, to me that is irrelevant. it is possible that five and 10-year treasuries go negative as more and more money comes in from overseas, both europe and japan, where yields are negative there. think 10-your nominal yields can turn negative in the market? bob: without question. we saw that in europe where the ecb held policy rates stable for a while. i don't know that will happen over the next month, but over the next few quarters, there will be a move, the fed will stick to zero, the money will come pouring in domestically and finance -- internationally to br