carol swain that it is to one college. this is what a professor said just last year. >> even if we are a person of color, we are still a part of that machine, that white supremacist machine. and we likely got there because we were able to mimic enough of those languaging practices to be able to proceed, to succeed. it doesn't make it right. languaging practices. >> i can tell you that starting with the election of president obama, we saw the racism on campus increase, but the racism was taking a new form. when they talk about antiracism, what they are really doing is promoting racism. they were promoting racism against white students, students they deem as privileged because they came from two parent families. but they also, the racism that comes from lower standards, those black, young people, they are not required to learn standard english will not be prepared to function the way they should in our society. no wonder they are angry. no wonder they are trying to burn down everything. >> laura: dr. swain, it is always wond

i've been listening to leo terrell, robert woodson, and carol swain. and i think they're in agreement with this. what do you think? >> i don't think that that is going to happen. as far as i know, vice president pence will continue to be the nominee for the vice president. i have not heard that senator tim scott even wants to be considered to be vice president. so i don't think that that is going to happen. and honestly, given what is going on with the coronavirus and covid-19, the fact that vice president pence heads up the coronavirus task force, i think he's in the right place at the right time. and needs to continue in that position. >> kathy in louisiana, republican. >> caller: good morning. you're very brave to step up and take the place of the tea party patriot co-founder. i know that initially, when you started the organization, that you were targeted by the fbi. the irs, the dea, the deq, every possible organization there was, was weaponized against the tea party. i'm so glad y'all survived. the country needs conservative people worried about

joining me now is carol swain, former vanderbilt professor and advisory board member for black voices for trump. thank you for being here. what is the ultimate goal of these reoccurring streetse movements, these occupations of cities? what's the agenda here? speak up it's not about police brutality >> it's not about police brutality or racism, it's abouto a global movement to destroy the united states as we know it, and its root is in marxism. and anyone who studies marxism knows where it goes, it goes to communism. that's where we are heading. the activists that you see out there today, they have an agenda. they are well organized. the uprisings are not spontaneous. the grievances of black people and other and others oppressed are being used to advance an agenda.nd if they succeed in destroying america, i guarantee you know one will be happy with the nation that remains. >> raymond: "the new york times" is tweeting today about their latest piece. it writes, mount rushmore was built on land that belonged to the lakota tribe and sculpted by a man who had strong bonds with the kkk. they

the movie talks about the fact that people like candace owens and carole swain and herman cain and walter william, all of whom are mentioned in the movie, when we bring up issues like porous borders, when unkilled aliens compete for jobs that puts downward pressure on wages, we talk about lack of choice in schools, i went to a school called crenshaw high school, the center of a movie called boys in the hood. only 3% of kids at my former school can do math at their level. the school is run by crips. when they raise the question, people like thomas williams are called uncle tom and the conversation is shut down. it's ridiculous. lou: it is. and the idea that so many brilliant people in the community would be ignored, the conservatives that you just mentioned and there are many others as well, but the idea that the community would ignore them and turn instowed the charlotte -- instead to the charlotteans that have peopled the power struggle of the inner city it is in itself a travesty. >> the most popular magazine in black america is ebony magazine. at one time, every coffee table in a black

joining us now, former professor carol swain. good morning to you. now, we hope that something will get unveiled and looks like the most recent covid package has about $105 billion for the schools. what are your thoughts as congress tries to get its act together, and will that be enough? >> well, first of all, if you look at what world experts are saying like the american academy of pediatricians, the hospital in toronto, experts in the u.k., children are not at risking of either contracting or spreading covid-19. they need to get back to school. there's great risk for them staying at home. it disrupts the family structure, it disrupt learning, and it hurts the poorest children most of all news bay don't have -- most of all because they don't have the resources for them while they work. jedediah: obviously, there's always still risk of contracting it, and some of the kids have developed some inflammatory condition so that, of course, is lingering in the back of some parents' minds. but i want do you, you're a former professor, what are your thoughts