fauci. he talked about the re-opening across the country and noted that pictures of people in bars were crowded and not wearing masks. this country is now averaging more than 60,000 new cases being added every day. dr. fauci saying that is untenable. this needs to be turned around. and that is the reality that many states are facing today. confirmed cases in florida have now topped 300,000. in miami-dade county where the positivity rate just hit 31%, the number of covid-19 patients in one hospital system has jumped 226% in the past month. >> we're preparing for even more patients. >> reporter: florida is one of 14 states reporting record hospitalizations. 11 of those states are also seeing a rise in new cases over the past week. >> we've got to almost reset this and say, okay, let's stop this nonsense and figure out how can we get control over this now. if we are going to open, we've got to get everybody on the same team. >> reporter: california, one of the state's hitting a reset button, is

fauci. >> reporter: president trump and his top aides are backing off of their attacks on fauci but only white house trade adviser peter navarro blasted fauci in a "usa today" op-ed writing dr. anthony fauci has a good bedside manner with the public but he has been wrong about everything i've interacted with him on. asked about that the president all but accused navarro of going rogue. >> well, he made a statement representing himself. he shouldn't be doing that. no, i have a very good relationship with anthony. >> reporter: after biting his tongue for weeks, fauci is now defending himself. >> i cannot figure out in my wildest dreams why they would want to do that, but, i mean, i think they realize now that that was not a prudent thing to do because it's only reflecting negatively on them. i can't explain peter navarro. he is in a world by himself. i don't even want to go there. >> reporter: navarro's op-ed came after anonymous white house officials sent unflattering talking points about fau

fauci: good questions. we will not have the definitive answer to your question until we months and a year or more to determine the durability. i can say with a degree of confidence that if you get infected and you recover, it was because your immune system and immune response suppressed and ultimately eliminated the virus. if you were infected, i can say confidently that you have immunity. what i can't tell you is how long that immunity is going to last. i would hope it lasts a substantial period of time, but we don't know because we have only been involved in the outbreak for 5.5 to six months. does that impact vaccination? it is. we hope when we do vaccinate individuals, that the vaccine would give action long enough -- protection long enough for one full seasonal cycle. there is always the opportunity to give someone a booster. that is the answer to your first two questions. the third question is if you get infected before and get infected again, could it make it worse? you are talking about what they ca

fauci. he said this wasn't a rift between the white house and scientists. he put out a statement saying we have great faith in the capacity of our scientists and doctors on the coronavirus task force to impart necessary public health information, people like the admiral, the surgeon general and others carrying the messages effectively. he does not mention fauci here. these are the people who the white house is putting out. we saw them doing interviews this morning on the sunday shows. interesting, no mention of fauci and clearly here, again, the white house responding to our questions about a rift with what looks like something akin to opposition research, something we might get if we asked about biden or a democrat or democratic policies. so it's striking to see this with a top health official. >> it's extraordinary, indeed. we'll stay in close touch with you. >>> the rift between the president and dr. fauci didn't happen overnight. cnn reporter and fact-checker daniel dale is joining us ri

fauci: yes. yes, i am. that health care here in the united states, and i'm sure it's similar in the u.k. and sewhere, are the realeroes. they are just knocking themlves out under very diicult, exhausting, both physically andti eally exhausting circumstances so, the only thg i can do is tip my hat and salute them that job, and it isn't over yet, as be contially challenged.g to myself -- you know, obviously, i would be lying to say it isn't very stressful. it's very stressful because of the nature of the problem, but it's also stressful for some of the things you brought up in the interview, which tend to be as to the main goal of attacking this thing, which is the real emy, which is the virus, and not all the other things that gein the way of a concerted effort to stopping ts. so yeah, i often joke, but it isn't a joke, i'm running on fumes, but the fumes are really thick, so they are carrying me through. but i'm in there, and i'm going to connue to do what i'm doing. katty: tony fauci, thank you for joining

fauci. >> this issue of tweeting andwe re-teting is something i've never understood or gotten involved in. you'd ha helpful.it's not get a grilling at in tiny boxes congressional hearing, remotely, of course. the "echoes of empire" series looks at the role of colonial britain in shaping america's complicated and folding histof slavery. welcome to "world news america" ha pbs and around the globe. dr. anthony fauc come to symbolize america's devastating struggle with the pandemic. despite hisnings and best efforts, the nation has more than 4 million cases. as of today, 150,000 people have died. his work as the nation's top visit -- infectious disease expert have put him in the crosshairs of the trump white house. to do his job, he has to juggle politics and medicine. it is stressful and exhausting, he told me. we are now about five months into this pandemic in the united states. if i had asked you back in april if this is the situation we would at the end of july, is this about what you would'

anthony fauci. the latest, analyst peter navarro attacking fauci in an op-ed. saying "he's been wrong about everything" the two discussed. the white house denying an effort to discredit fauci earlier in the week said it hasn't happened claiming navorro went rog in his column and went around protocols for that. first, we dig in on the crisis that is unfolding in florida. 54 hospitals in the state reached capacity when it comes to their icus meaning no icu beds available, period. another 40 hospitals have 10% capacity or less. now one study shows of the 20 u.s. metro areas with the highest daily growth rate, nearly half of them are in florida. cnn's rosa flores is live in miami beach, and rosa, the staid-wide numbers are alarming. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: they are alarming. the florida department of health reporting more than 10,000 cases today, brianna. that brings total for the state of florida to more than 300,000. the epicenter is right here where i am in miami-dade county. accounting for 24% of all infections. the situation is only getting wor

fauci. now the president says there's nothing to see here. >> that's exactly right, wolf. white house officials appear to be backing off after taking some jabs at dr. anthony fauci over his comments about the coronavirus pandemic. the president and other officials are now saying on the record that mr. trump and dr. fauci have a good working relationship. that's notable, given the fact that some aides to the president have been spending the last couple of days trashing fauci, even sending out opposition research about the doctor, anonymously, to reporters. after spending days railing against dr. anthony fauci, president trump and his top aides seem to be pulling back from what appear to be a campaign to undermine one of the nation's most trusted health experts. >> i have a very good relationship with dr. fauci. i have had for a long time, right from the very beginning. i find him to be a very nice person. i don't always agree with him. no, i get along with him very well. i like him. >> report

anthony fauci. dr. fauci is the director of the national institute of allergy infectious diseases at the n.i.h. and he's a member of the force on the sk pandemic. and as you might have seen, he first pitch at the opener on thursday night when the washington nationals played hometown new york yankees. dr. fauci, we appreciate your time. bob.auci: thank you, it's good to be with you. bob: so was that a flat curve? [laughter] dr. fauci: it went in the wrong direction. and said i nd after used to be a shortstop when i played ball as a young boy and i was supposed to throw to first base. [laughter] bob: well, we're not going to hold it against you, doctor. we're my first pitch, both glad baseball is back. but is it too soon? know, i don't think so, bob, if it's done carefully. the protocols that major league baseball has both theher to protect players and other personnel the iated with organization, getting them ested frequently, doing protocols that are really quite safe as well as having no people in the s

fauci: no. i think it is going to be, as we all know, our society from the beginning of the founding fathers is a federalist society in which the states have certain prerogatives, powers, and responsibilities. i can say as a public health official that i would urge the leaders, local, political and other leaders in states and cities and towns to be as forceful as possible in getting your citizenry to wear masks. masks are important. physical distancing is the most important. but practically, when you are living your life and trying to open up the country, you will come into contact with people, and for that reason, we know masks are really important and we should be using them everywhere. host: that leads to a question from this member of michigan. caller: my name is michelle with the lansing regional chamber of commerce in lansing, michigan. dr. fauci, thank you for joining us. my question is around masks and businesses, businesses are in the unfortunate position of being the mask police. they

fauci: i hope so, steve. thank you for having me. live, daily, unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, >> our countries are linked by trade or travel. >> issues that impact you. theo save lives and meet needs of our states, our health care workers. thelong with briefings on coronavirus pandemic, supreme court decisions, and the latest from campaign 2020. >> your calls and comments, welcome. >> be part of the conversation every day with our live, calling journal""washington and if you missed any of the coverage, watch on c-span.org or listen with the three c-span radio app. a, sunday night on q& journalist aaron geiger smith talks about the history of voting and issues surrounding voting today in her book, "thank you for voting." >> a massive impact on voting rights, and there isn't any voting rights advocate or attorney that doesn't see it as a ground shaking impact. so while voting laws that are discriminatory are still illegal, there is not federal oversight of states with a history of discrimination, the kind of stopgap

fauci. and you know him. i'm sure you worked with him when you were the acting surgeon general of the united states under president obama. would you ever have imagined the administration launching a campaign to try to undermine their own top infectious disease expert right in the middle of the pandemic? >> you know, i use the terms last week on another thing that came from the white house. i'm going to use two terms here, ridiculous and dangerous. this is absolutely who endous that this is going on at this critical point of a pandemic. what we have to do is speak with one voice, telling people this is real and telling them how we can prevent the spread of this further in our society. and to spend all this effort of finger-pointing, to spend all this effort of undermining someone with the reputation of dr. fauci is absolutely ridiculous and dangerous. >> doctor, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you so much, wolf. >>> coming up, we'll have more on the worsening coronavirus crisis out in california and in

fauci. this as the u.s. death toll in the pandemic is nearing 150,000 people just in the united states following more than 1,000 deaths in the u.s. since just yesterday. and the known cases has topped 1.3 million. to start off our coverage, our white house correspondent jeremy diamond is with us. jeremy, the president resumed these briefings to show he's in charge of the pandemic response. is he spreading more misinformation when he's not reading from a teleprompter or when he's simply tweeting? >> that's right, wolf. amid plummeting poll numbers, the president last week tried to stick to a script prepared for him by white house aides that was designed to show americans that he is taking this pandemic seriously. and he has largely tried to do so. but that effort has really faded over the last 24 hours as we have seen the president amplifying misinformation once again about the coronavirus and pressuring governors to reopen their states. after trying to stick to the script and show americans

fauci. >> presidential medal of freedom dr. fauci got. that is who the president is undermining and folks around him are dropping lines about him saying things about him, sending out hit pieces about him. and this is who the president is listening to on the outbreak that's claimed 136,000 american lives. chuck woolry. >> chuck woolry here with a bit of a confession. i have a new favorite emu oil. there is only one blue emu. get american made blue emu. it works fast and you won't stink. >> the ointment might not stink, something sure does. more now on all this from jim accoosta at the white house. what exactly do we know about the relationship between fauci and the president right now? the president hasn't been to a task force briefing since april and fauci hasn't directly briefed him. i think fauci said in more than two months. >> yeah, the president seems to have a better relationship with chuck woolry, former of the "love connection" game show but the president doesn't exactly have a love connection with the truth and we've been seeing

fauci, will examine prescriptions from the pandemic. if shaking hands are in the past, reinvesting expertise, time, and money to fend of future attacks? how can we support physicians and nurses? the first responders of this covid era to focus on healing and how can we build sustainability and build capacity with our health infrastructure. we'll explorend, innovations and breakthroughs that give us the power to reimagine, reimagine health care. alex azar, the health and human services secretary, will join me at the top of that. and then you get another break and i get another break. and the third and final session, we'll shine a light on issues related to race, affordability, and access, issues that have literally become a matter of life and death. my main guest in that our will be robert redfield, who has been a guest previously. you will not want to miss any of the sessions. before we get underway, a few housekeeping notes. you can tweet us at # thehillhelp. and if your question is short and great, i have asked my colleague, katie, to

fauci. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. this would be extraordinary during any administration at any time, to have the white house sort of broadside one of the nation's leading health experts, but the fact that it's being done during a pandemic is incredibly striking. now, we have been reporting over the last several weeks a growing tension between both president trump and dr. fauci. we saw this playing out in the media. the two men are not talking. dr. fauci had not briefed president trump in person in months. we know that. so then we started seeing this kind of back and forth. fauci saying he wasn't sure where president trump got certain information. clearly, disagreeing with president trump in one interview saying that the u.s. government's response to coronavir coronavirus wasn't great. of course, wolf, as we know, we've reported on president trump's fnarrative over and ove again saying the government's response has been impeccable, perfect, beautiful. clearly disagreeing with him there.

fauci a lot. but dr. fauci is not 100% right. and he, also, doesn't necessarily -- and he admits that -- have the whole national interest in mind. he looks at it from a very narrow public-health point of view. >> he looks at it from a very narrow public health point of view. that uniform, by the way, and the title that guy has. admiral. he's not a navy admiral. he looks like -- it's a navy uniform. but he's not in the navy. he's not served in the navy. he's not an admiral. he's an admiral of the u.s. public health service commission corps. they get to wear uniforms, too. and it's fascinating. a "washington post" report on that admiral's vaccine research when he worked at texas a and m university cites the local paper which obtained his evaluation after his firing. among other things, says he apparently got low remarks for being a team player. he was told he could either resign or be fired and he resigned. sure seems like he is on the team now. on the trump team. the man who appointed him to this job. he was in the private sector

i'll let fauci answer that. quote, i have a reputation, as you have probably figured out, of speaking the truth at all times. not sugarcoating things. look, i'm not trying to drown you in dread. i'm trying to sound the alarm. right now matters. right now is the moment that we must come together, demand truth from power. we have to get our kids back in school. we have to get as many of them as we can. we have to get as many of us as we can back to work. it is not yes or no. it's how? we need a plan from trump. we need to wear masks. we need to socially distance. we need to wash our hands like crazy. i have the same chapped hands you have. the most populated state in the nation just made a big move, reimposing restrictions. to do it right. the push was reopen, ready or not. that's how the red states thought they would please trump. it was a mistake. so now let's start asking the right questions, let's start putting ourselves in the right positions to get back where we must be right away. we have a former top ameri

more trust him then do donald trump in that regard, and dr fauci,

anthony fauci. peter navarro writing he has been wrong about everything i've interacted with him on. my answer is only with skepticism and caution. now, obviously i don't need to say that navarro is not a doctor. he has no expertise when it comes to infectious diseases. he has zero standing to say what he said. and it was so out of line that trump himself was forced to disown it. >> he made a statement representing himself. he shouldn't be doing that. no, i have a very good relationship with anthony. >> okay. but that sort of disowning doesn't add up because what peter navarro did of course was to push forward the same narrative of trump's advisers, pushing the name narrative as trump's social media adviser who retweeted a cartoon mocking fauci as a toilet. mo moore telling the daily beast that he's working on a memo about fauci detailing everything he's gotten incorrect called dr. wrong. it's the same narrative as president donald trump has pushed himself. >> dr. fauci's a nice man but he made a lo

fauci. fauci described the quotes against him as completely wrong. here he is today. >> it is a bit bizarre. i don't fully understand it. i cannot figure out in my wildest dreams why they would want to do that. but i mean i think they realize now that that was not a prudent thing to do because it's only reflecting negatively on them. i can't explain peter navarro. he's in a world by himself so i don't even want to go there. >> for his part, trump down played his differences with fauci today and rep remanded navarro. >> he made a statement remitting himself. he shouldn't be doing that. i have a very good relationship with anthony. thank you very much. thank you. >> and i'm joined now by jeff bennett, white house correspondent for msnbc and jonathan lemire, white house reporter for the associated press. jeff, if you could, try to explain what happened here with this navarro op-ed. the president didn't seem entirely pleased wit, but how did it come into the public square to begin with? >> when

fauci. what are the responses, what are the reactions are you hearing over what this administration is doing by trying to discredit dr. fauci? >> well from democrats, you hear a lot of defense of dr. fauci, essentially criticizing president trump for sending out that opposition-style research document over the weekend. and we even saw the white house director of social media dan scavino tweet out this picture of anthony fauci which was essentially a political cartoon making fun of him. you're definitely getting a lot of pushback to that. but there are also some republicans speaking out about the president's criticism of dr. anthony fauci or at least defending him. senator lindsey graham from south carolina one of the president's staunchest defenders essentially said yesterday, we do not have a fauci problem. so you're seeing definitely a lot of defense of dr. anthony fauci and this push for more unity among the administration because, remember, dr. anthony fauci played a very important part

dr fauci responds... today, president trump was asked for his view on dr fauci. we're all on the same team, including dr fauci. i have a very good relationship with dr fauci. and we're all on the same team. we want to get rid of this mess that china sent us. so, everybody‘s working on the same line and we're doing very well. we're doing well in a lot of ways and our country's coming back very strong. when you look at those job numbers — we've never had job numbers like we have right now. so it's coming back very strong. dr fauci has openly disagreed with president trump who's been eager to open up the economy amidst the pandemic. the bbc‘s north america correspondent david willis is in los angeles. it's somewhat surreal, isn't it, that as the death toll here in the united states reaches 137,000 people, you have this apparent feud going on between the top infectious diseases expert, dr anthony fauci, and the white house? over the weekend, the white house issued a series of bullet points detailing why dr anthony fauci should not be trusted. then peter navarro

fauci. now, president trump this afternoon claimed he believed that the op-ed should not have been published and claims he has a very good relationship with the top doctor. fauci was asked this afternoon how he can do his job during this pandemic advising a white house that is actively seeking to undermine him. >> well, that is a bit bizarre. and i have to tell you i think if i sit here and just shrug my shoulders and say, well, you know, that's life in the fast lane. [ laughter ] it is a bit bizarre. i don't really fully understand it. >> that's dr. fauci being character citiesly diplomatic. let me not be diplomatic. the white house campaign to undermine dr. fauci is dishonest. it's disgusting. it's underanged. and at a time of a deadly pandemic, it is the ultimate and responsibility, literally, more than 136,000 americans are dead because of this virus. and instead of an aggressive national testing and contact tracing program, the white house is instead launching an aggressive smear campai

fauci: i hope so, steve. thank you for having me. >> coming up monday morning, we will discuss tax policy and economic recovery with carl smith. industryt the biotech and coronavirus with the organization chair. watch monday morning and join the discussion with phone calls, facebook comments, text messages, and tweets. >> here is a look on foreign policy challenges for the u.s. dealing with russia and china, -- my by the mccarty carnegie endowment. the house appropriations committee continues work on 2021 spending pills, focusing on energy, water development, labor, and education. restart -- hosted by the washington post, that gets underway at 1:00 p.m. and two, what measures are being taken to protect detainees and federal employees at ice-t -- ice detention facilities. the federal response to the pandemic was a central topic today on sunday news programs. here is what trump administration officials had to say in many schools. does the administration have this under control? >> another nine going out this we

fauci. >> i have a very good relationship with dr. fauci. i've had for a long time, right from the beginning. i find him to be a very nice person. i don't always agree with him. i closed the border, as you know, to china. i closed -- i did the ban on china, heavily infected, and we saved tens of thousands of lives, and dr. fauci will admit that it was a good decision. it was very early. that was in january, long before it was thought of as the right thing to do. i get along with him very well. i like him personally. >> there's no opposition research being dumped to reporters. we were asked a very specific question by "the washington post," and that question was president trump noted that dr. fauci had made some mistakes, and we provided a direct answer to what was a direct question. dr. fauci and the president have always had a very good working relationship. >> "the new york times" reports and nbc news has confirmed that fauci was back at the white house today meeting with trump's chief of staff mark meadows. pre-scheduled meeting we're tol

fauci. i mean, this week, you had the president and his allies day after day asserting more control over information and the administration order hospital to bypass the c.d.c. and send patient informationo another data base. and vice president pence urged schools to reopen and take their cues from the white house. >> to be very clear, weon't want c.d.c. guidance to be a reason why peopln don't reo their schools. robert: and dr. anthony fau was attacked in a "usa today" op-ed by peter navarro, onee of resident's trade advisor. fauci responded in an interview with the aantic. >> it isiz bitarre. i don't really fully understand it. if you talk to reasonable ople in the white house, they realize that was a major mistake on theirec partse it doesn't do anything but reflect poorly m. t i can't explain peter navarro. naes world by himself. so i don't even want to go there.: robenathan, i know you want to jump in. this was a week where politics and theolitical map seemed to be scrambled. just weeks

anthony fauci and president trump. she was also asked about the plan of the republican national convention in august. >> hello, everyone. president trump participated in a roundtable to hear stories of families positively impacted by law enforcement. that will be taking place shortly after this briefing concludes. the president stands with our police officers, men and women across this country, who valiantly patrol our streets and protect our citizenry. this president stands on the side of line order to secure peace in our streets. that has always been his priority and remains so today. tragically, this weekend, we saw a devastating ambush attack against law enforcement officers in texas. a 45-year-old officer and a 39-year-old officer. while responding to a domestic disturbance call, the officers arrived on scene to protect the people they serve. they were met with gunfire and were ambushed by a violent and dangerous suspect who horrifically shot before they their weapon or had a chance to call for backup. of ther the

fauci. when we look at national polling of who is trusted more when it comes to the health crisis, you have overwhelmingly overall with registered voters people saying they trust dr. fauci more than they trust president trump there in that poll that we see from the new york times. >> monica alba, breaking it down for us, thank you for all of that. joining me is rnc chairman and msnbc political analyst, michael steele, and emmy ruiz, former senior adviser to kamala harris' 2020 campaign. good to see both of you again. it is interesting to see, i've been watching a lot of developments overseas, i haven't seen this kind of divide, if we're keeping score on who has been more wrong than right during this pandemic, is this a close comparison given what president trump has repeatedly said from the get-go? >> unfortunately it is very grim comparison. you know, more than 130,000 american lives have been lost. and this president has done nothing to support americans through this, whether it be the eco

fauci. i think any effort to undermine him is not going to be productive, quite frankly. >> republican senator lindsey graham saying something like that is like you deciding to eat your own hand. and it better be pretty important to even consider doing such a thing. but this is that important. this plan of divide and conquer, of lie, deny and defy is killing us. we have more dead than this pandemic would have cost us if we had been doing the right thing sooner, things that this president denies, measures that he defiedefies, and facts upon he lies. don't you see that's what this is? that's why he's attacking fauci. fauci is different. he's not going to stay silent like too much we'any we've seen team. he's not going to say nothing now and then there will be a book in a couple of months because now he wants to make his witness. he's going to take the heat because he's bigger than politics. he's going to stick because he's about the health of people like you and me. >> obviously the more you t

anthony fauci, will examine prescriptions from the pandemic. if shaking hands is our past and immunity passports for our foreseeable future, are we also exercising expertise and money to fend off future attacks? the first responders of this covid era to focus on healing and how can we build sustainability and build capacity with our health the second band, from 1:15 to reimagineeastern, health care alex azar, the health and human services secretary, join me at the top of that band, and then you get another break and i get another break. the third and final session will race,a light on affordability, and access, issues that have become a matter of life and death. my main guess in that hour will be cdc director robert redfield, a guest previously on my coronavirus report at the hill. you will not want to miss any of the sessions. before we get underway, a few housekeeping notes. you can tweet us at #thehill health. if your question is short and great, i have asked my colleague katie to walk up and give them to me. we will be monitoring those. we

fauci. i quickly googled fauci, opposition research, having been in the business of campaigns, not proud to say i've been involved in opposition research. but he's a jewel. this is a sad and dark and depressing day. i think moments ago while i was listening to you talk about mr. e mu cream. the white house press secretary denied t denied the smears against the -- >> it's blue emu anti-arthritis cream. we have these case study charts in state after state after state, i think we last left last week we were at 38 states on the upswing out of 50. we're going to concentrate right here and now on arizona. they continue to see one of the worst outbreaks in our country. right now the growing number of cases is putting a huge strain on testing capability and available icu beds. our correspondent and arizona native vaughn hillyard is with us from one of the largest hospitals in phoenix. hey, vaughn. >> reporter: hey, brian and nicolle. you talked about research, for anybody who wants to do any researc

anthony fauci. dr. fauci is the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases at the nih and a member of the president's task force on the pandemic. as you might have seen he threw out the first pitch on opening night when the nationals played his hometown new york yankees. dr. fauci, we appreciate your time. >> thank you, bob. it's good to be with you. bob: so was that a flat curve? >> it went in the wrong direction. i joked around after and said i used to be a shortstop when i played ball as a young boy and i thought i was supposed to throw to first base. [laughter] bob: we won't hold it against you, doctor. here's my first pitch. we're both glad baseball is back, but is it too soon? >> i don't think so, bob. if it's done carefully. if you look at the protocols that major league baseball has put together, to protect both the players and other personnel associated with the organization, getting them tested frequently, doing protocols that are really quite safe, as well as having

fauci. fauci speaking today. he did not mention the president, but he did say where he thinks we are in the pandemic. here's jonathan karl. >> reporter: after his advisers put out information critical of dr. anthony fauci, president trump told reporters he gets along just fine with the government's leading expert on infectious diseases. >> well, i have a very good relationship with dr. fauci. i've had for a long time, right from the beginning. i find him to be a very nice person. i don't always agree with him. >> reporter: but the president recently made it clear he's not happy with dr. fauci's warnings that the pandemic is far from over. >> i don't think you can say we're doing great. i mean, we're just not. >> dr. fauci is a nice man, but he's made a lot of mistakes. >> reporter: after the president said that, the white house gave reporters a list of quotes from dr. fauci from the past several months that the white house said turned out to be wrong. it was an extraordinary move, going negative on the one of the

fauci? there has been criticism of him over the last couple of days. >> i've had a good relationship with him from the long time, since the beginning. he's a nice person. i close the border to china, i don't always agree with him. i did the ban on china, heavily infected, we saved tens of thousands of lives and dr. fauci will admit that it was a good decision, it was early, in january, long before it was thought of as the right thing to do. i also closed the borders to europe when italy and a couple of other countries over there, france, certainly, spain, were having a lot of problems. lives,saved a lot of we've made a lot of good decisions. i get along with him well. i like him personally. please. host: president trump yesterday at the white house, that list of supposedly stakes that were made since the beginning of coronavirus. also the focus of questions yesterday, the list described by some as a form of opposition research dump against anthony fauci. the white house press secretary was a

fauci. and the effort to deprive the cdc of patient information from hospitals treating them. you have some reporting on this. take me inside your understanding of how peter navarro somehow went rogue and got an op-ed published. >> that's certainly the line that the white house is putting out today, nicolle, although our reporting reveals that's not exactly accurate that the president not only knew about navarro's plan to write this op-ed that he supported it, encouraged it inside this white hou house. this is consistent with the president who all the aides know has grown frustrated with anthony fauci. the administration has blocked him from doing television interviews, that's why he's talking to the atlantic and doing facebook sessions and things like that, he's not been able to go on television, dan scavino also tweeted an attack on fauci, a cartoon -- all inside a white house acts to appease and enthuse this president. they all know that he's frustrated with dr. fauci. according to the at

and the white house. 0ver doctor anthony fauci and the white house. over the weekend, the white house issued a series of bullet points detailing why doctor anthony fauci should not be tested. then peter navarro today doubled down on all of that in an article in usa today. president trump has since sought to distance himself somewhat from peter navarro's comments and doctor felt she, you just were explaining, has said that he does not really understand what is going on. he called it a major mistake, did not understand why the white house would seek to discredit him. and it is of concern to people

fauci. something else that should worry any ally of the president, the more and more states and school districts across the country, they are not bending to the president's demands to keep their economies open and get children back into classrooms. they're not looking at politics, they're looking at reality and the data and experts telling them by enlarge the numbers are going in the wrong direction, still. even though the president does not acknowledge that. in 37 states new infections are increasing. trending up week over week. in some states at alarming rates. at least 26 states are pausing or dialing back the reopening plans in an effort to contain the spread now. which has meant some of the largest school districts are pushing ahead with their plans now to start school online. and forget about what the president wants. what do parents want? here is a window into everyone's thinking. in a new poll they found a majority of parents in the united states say it is too risky to send their chi

fauci. while the often deadly coronavirus is running rampant across many parts of the country right now. indeed, 33 states today reporting a rise in new cases. but no state is seeing anywhere near the number of new infections as they're seeing right now in florida. the most current data from florida, more than 15,000 people confirmed positive for the virus and that is just one single day. numbers never seen before including in new york state back in april. let's go to cnn's kristen holmes right now. she's over at the white house. kristen, tell us about this growing rift and it's ugly between the white house and dr. fauci. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. this would be extraordinary during any administration at any time, to have the white house sort of broadside one of the nation's leading health experts, but the fact that it's being done during a pandemic is incredibly striking. now, we have been reporting over the last several weeks a growing tension between both president trump and dr. fau

fauci. dr. fauci answered the question we have all been wondering about in the printed version of the interview, dr. fauci was asked, have you thought about resigning. dr. fauci said, no, i think the problem is too important for me to get into those kinds of thoughts and discussions. i just want to do my job. i'm really good at it. i think i can contribute and i'm going to keep doing it. fauci is 79 years old. he has provided invaluable service to this country for decades. we are very lucky that he is going to keep doing that as long as he possibly can. and so the last question he was asked in this interview is, in some ways, the most important. >> how are you doing? how are you coping? >> you know, adam, i'm doing okay. i'm doing fine. i say the fumes are really thick, so it's enough to keep me going. i wish we didn't have a lot of those distractions, which i think are noise that get in the way. but i put that aside, try not to let it bother me and just move ahead. >> leading off our discussion

fauci and then disseminating it. when kayleigh mcenany was asked a question, and she flat out denied. she says the white house was simply responding to a pro's about president trump statement that dr. anthony found she was a mistake and this is where this all came from. >> you have dr. fauci, who so that the record of this president is impressive. i can't imagine under any circumstance, anyone would be doing anything more. providing a direct response to direct questions, and that's

fauci? >> well, we opened up too early because we didn't have the appropriate countermeasures. we opened up well after that, by the way. and we were the last city to reopen because we get so many visitors, we were very concerned about it. but the problem is we didn't have these contact tracers in place to deal with the surge. and everybody, you know, i think really from the top to the bottom treated this thing as a green light and an all clear, and obviously isn't. and a lot of that is because, as leaders, we have to let people know how they're supposed to perceive this and how they're supposed to act. when everybody gets excited about opening and acts like the virus is gone, of course it's going to come back. without the contact tracing to cabin it and to control it, it's not a surprise to me at this point that it's spreading like wildfire through our community. >> and that's going to have a huge impact on whether or not you can reopen schools next month in miami-dade county. thank you so m

america correspondent, david willis, says there is no doubt the white house has tried to discredit dr fauci. at the weekend, mike, the white house sent out a briefing note, basically putting the case that dr fauci shouldn't be trusted. the us trade representative doubled down on that today in an opinion editorial in usa today. asked about that, president trump said that he did not agree with the opinions expressed by his trade representative, but nonetheless he is known to have been very critical of doctor anthony fauci in recent weeks and one of the reasons for that, mike, is simply this, that dr fauci is the person that more americans trust to navigate their way out of the current crisis. more trust him than do donald trump in that regard and dr fauci, at 79 years of age, is somebody who has navigated americans

fauci. so who to believe? a globally-respected scientist and public health authority? or the man in the white house, whose message over and over has been, don't worry. the coronavirus is going to disappear. cnn's kristen holmes is at the white house for us. what else have we learned about this growing rift between dr. fauci and the president? >> reporter: ana, a white house working to discredit one of the nation's top health official would been extraordinary in any circumstance. given it's happening in the middle of a pandemic when we see cases surge it's striking. i reached out to the white house to talk about their relationship with dr. fauci, president trump and dr. fauci, and received a statement from a white house official that said that several white house officials are concerned about the number of times dr. fauci has been wrong on things, and then they included a list of things he said early on in the pandemic that were later debunked and linked two of these articles. this looks akin