days the host of "the michael steele pod cast." michael steele is new management at the campaign going to make all the difference? >> no, because people don't vote for campaign managers. donald trump is still the candidate. and at the end of the day the people by the polling you shared with us, their response to what they see the president doing on covid-19 on the economy and racial race relations is saying overall that they think the country is moving in the wrong direction. no campaign manager is going to fix that because the campaign manager is not managing those three issues. the president of the united states is who happens to be a candidate for reelection. and looking at that, the people are assessing okay, are we better off today than we were not four years ago but four months ago? are we better off going into the future with donald trump as our president and the answer right now seems to be no. >> john, i want to tell you something you already know. pick up any descent book and the history of the presidency from the formati

these days host of the michael steele podcast. welcome to you both. michael, i always try to bring you something when you come on to thank you for your presence. >> i know. >> tonight i give you and we'll discuss it at the conclusion, tucker carlson from fox news. >> friday's address at mt. rushmore was probably the best -- the single best speech donald trump has ever given. it was a roadmap for his re-election message, but more than that it was a roadmap for the country itself. equality, decency, pride in our nation. >> michael steele, your thoughts. >> well, clearly we heard two different things, and i would not ascribe any of those characteristics to the speech that the president gave, and that's just the reality of it. look, the reporting is out there about the relationship between the president and tucker carlson. what else do you expect tucker carlson to say? i mean, he's in the president's ear. the president listens to him, and the president clearly is taking his advice. one report i read said if you want to get a sense of what the president's

michael steele, let me start with you. i started this conversation with mark mckinnon and cornell belcher, who know a whole lot about campaigns. and i haven't had a chance to ask you about this, but thomas friedman last week wrote a pretty pointed piece that donald trump is seeking to wag the dog, but as opposed to in the fictional, dark comedy, his war to distract from crisis is one being waged on americans in the streets of american cities. do you see it that way? >> i do, not only does he want to wag the dog, but break his legs as he's doing it so he can't move. and can't come back. and that's the ultimate takedown here. and it still frustrates me to no end how folks out there across the country continue to play into a narrative that they're being set up to play into. there are plenty of other sites and areas inside portland and across the country that aren't federal. do not give the president the link he's looking for to connect that dot. go to state property, go to a mall, go some place else, but you don't have to ope

i think to michael steele's point, that can't be overstated enough. joe biden not being hillary clinton is a good thing for joe biden and donald trump being who donald trump is, has been a good thing for joe biden, who otherwise has been able to run a campaign in this weird, new, virtual reality exactly adds he sees fit, without being dragged into the campaign trail or dragged into these rhetorical arguments by president trump. and that's what's really working for biden and hurting president trump. and we also see that in the way that president trump is struggling to define joe biden. crooked hillary clinton was a good way to label her because of the way that people had vilified her for decades. joe biden hasn't been a bogeyman of the right-wing machine for decades like hillary clinton has. so i think there are a lot of unique challenges inherent as to how joe biden is as a person and a candidate, that trump and his team are really struggling to figure out as they're facing an election in just a few months. >> and i think the public has the ability to

that's on michael steele. it all happened in real-time. >> i know, i know. >> i bring -- [ laughter ] i bring the more serious side of this. what we all tried to spotlight. real people. what's really going on. and then always experts. dr. fauci appeared with our own colleague andrea mitchell and spoke about the potential resurgence. take a look. >> when the southern states that have already been hit, the florida, texas, arizona, southern california, when you look back on, you saw an increase in the percent positives of the tests that were done. that's a sure fire indication that you are in a process where you're heading toward a resurgence. we are starting to see that in some of the states now. kentucky, tennessee, ohio. >> your view and where that plays out against the congress' relative inaction this week. going into what will be a brash, loud presidential campaign where there will be a fight over science, over whether it is a resurgence over the home of a vaccine. >> i think one of the things that fauci is

back with us are michael steele and elise jordan. thank you all for being here. heather, let me bring you in since elise and michael have been here already for the hour. the president has rebooted these coronavirus briefings for the purposes, i suppose, of looking in charge and in command. from your perspective, is it too little too late? >> it's absolutely too little too late, but at the same time, like with a child we have to say good job be do more of that in order to at least have him being sort of trained in the right direction. but right now overwhelm ily, americans are not looking to trump for their information and unfortunately as we just learned the white house has been rewriting the cdc guidelines on a number of issues, they can't reliably look to the centers for disease control. this is a resort of breaking point and my dear republican friends that are on with me, i'd love to hear what they have to say about this, but this feels like a breaking point from a multi-decade trend of not listening to science. global warming is obviously the biggest example

we also have analyst and former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. columnist, david ignatius. and white house correspondent for "reuters," jeff mason joins us this morning. we have a ton to get to. president trump is doubling down on his plan to send more federal law enforcement officers into some of america's biggest cities despite local leaders saying they are not welcome. >>> plus california passes new york's total for the highest number of coronavirus cases. this as a growing number of states impose new mask restrictions. we'll get to all of that. >>> but first person, woman, man, camera, tv. for the second time this week, president trump spent time bragging about his cognitive testing results. this time in an interview with fox news contributor dr. mark segal. >> it was 30 or 35 questions, the first questions are easy, the last questions are much more difficult. like a memory question. it's like you'll go person, woman, man, camera, tv. so they say, could you repeat that. so i said, yeah. so it's person, woman, man, camera, tv. okay. that's very

we are back with michael steele and rick stengel. michael steele, there's now a growing body of flash points and incidents where the military is, in realtime, trying to distance itself from the current commander in chief. that's in and of itself unprecedented. >> it is. and i think it's appropriate at this point. i think there's a lot of chatter, from what i am sure you have as well, nicolle and richard as well picked up the chatter around town around that period between november and january and what that may look like and what it hopefully doesn't look like. and i think, you know, given the way the president seems to treat the military and think about the military, they want to create that heisman moment where they create a separation between him as commander in chief and some of the things that he's out here supporting and promoting through his tweets, for example, where he's out there tweeting white nationalist, you know, videos. they on the other hand are saying confederate flags and this type of behavior is not going to be accep

michael steele, handicap this for us. is it possible to cross donald trump the way that jeff sessions did and win a republican primary against a candidate running like tuberville is? >> you know, actually i think it is. the question is how much fight are you prepared to bring to the game. and, you know, while the president said the sessions appointment was a mistake and that he's been a disaster and he felt, you know, obligated, he said pretty much, i felt sorry for him. if i were jeff sessions, i would have replayed that tape on him and said, you know, yeah, you were a mistake and a little bit of a disaster too. but it goes to this question if you're the senator -- if you're the former senator from the state who was appointed by the president to serve, representing the country in a very honorable and important job and then is running for that seat again, what is your relationship with the voters in alabama? and that's really for me more of the test question here, not so much about trump, but have the voters moved off of

thank you so much, michael steele and yamiche alcindor. and as we say, up next, a republican governor taking on an incumbent republican president. why maryland's larry hogan is still standing, that's his new book, on donald trump's assertions that covid-19 testing is where it should be and that states are getting all they need to fight the virus. governor hogan joins me next. governor hogan joins me next with the most advanced iphone yet. iphone 11 pro on us when you buy one. because everyone deserves the best. this is unlimited built right. (man) $hm.5? $9.95? $9.95. what's with all the $9.95 notes? i thought you'd never ask. it's about a life insurance plan with options starting at $9.95 a month. been seeing it on tv. we talked about getting more life insurance. remember how much your brother's funeral cost? yeah, his funeral expenses were a real eye-opener. -north of $8,500. -exactly. (man) what do you like about this insurance? the $9.95 price, and best of all, it'll never go up. (man) but we could get it at our age with my medical his

i heard one of the lowest maybe lowest anywhere in the world. >> michael steele, the president, again, arguing about the mortality rate, and also we see that according to all of what we're reading, there's more republican pushback against the president now. gop attempting to push back on a lot of the things he's saying being really uncomfortable about it. >> well, the reason for the pushback, andrea, looking at numbers and in their states, particularly republican senators and about six or seven states right now from north carolina to colorado, to arizona, that are seeing their numbers really take a hit because of two things. one the, the way they are tethered to the president and the way there is been tethered to him in the past they can't, you know, decouple as quickly or easily as they once thought, and, two, because the american public is now digesting and in fullness of facts and science what's happening in their backyard. what's happening in their neighborhoods, happening inside their families, and it doesn't align with the res rihetoric or narrative pushed out by the president.

but michael steele left the cult. >> oh! >> i'm over on time. time words to michael and barbara. >> i'm going to say, i don't know if you've ever tried to clean up after an he wielephant. it does matter which ends you begin with. >> i think you'll finds mary's book does do very well. i think it does impart knowledge to people and look for something from me maybe. >> is it going only the out by november? >> well, if it isn't, i don't think it will be very valuable. we'll see. >> we think all of you are valuable. i have to fit in the break. a lot to think about. and a couple things to laugh at. appreciate you guys. up ahead, donald trump is demanding that school is open but down playing how to deal with covid. our very special guest. an obama education expert will give us facts. also one of the biggest stars to ever contract covid. tom hanks speaking out ahead. co. tom hanks speaking out ahead your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically impro

joining me is rnc chairman and msnbc political analyst, michael steele, and emmy ruiz, former senior adviser to kamala harris' 2020 campaign. good to see both of you again. it is interesting to see, i've been watching a lot of developments overseas, i haven't seen this kind of divide, if we're keeping score on who has been more wrong than right during this pandemic, is this a close comparison given what president trump has repeatedly said from the get-go? >> unfortunately it is very grim comparison. you know, more than 130,000 american lives have been lost. and this president has done nothing to support americans through this, whether it be the economy, whether it be testing, whether it be sharing information, the president has truly, truly failed and now he's attacking, you know, dr. fauci, who has been up at every hour of the night, for the last 100 plus days, trying to inform the -- do everything he can to support us. >> michael, can you give me some kind of explanation why the white house is trying to do this? can you comment on how extraordinary it is for the white house to offi

michael steele, you were lieutenant governor, you headed the republican national committee. can you explain to me why we are acting like we ought to applaud the president after all of these months finally putting on a face mask when clearly this is something that is outrageous. it took all of this, and to seat spiking up in now the south and the southwest, his stronghold, after we saw unbelievable spikes around the northeast and other parts of the country, state of washington, you name it, and he finally puts on a mask and we act like that's something to applaud? >> i know, it's actually rather pitiful, the way people are sort of guffawing and fawning over this image of the president walking down the hall with now everyone around him in masks, after damn near five months of the country saying to him, particularly the medical professionals, put the mask on. why we're seeing what we're seeing now happened in places like florida, mississippi, and elsewhere throughout the south and southwest is because he didn't. he did not set the example at the beginning of this virus. in fact

it's where, michael steele, he's most under water against a candidate like joe biden. >> yeah. and the critical thing about what you just outlined is the fact that in any other normal environment for a president, an incumbent, you know, the strategies would be a little bit different. you would take all these crises that have enveloped the campaign and enveloped his administration and use them as sort of an opportunity to sort of push the voters closer to you, rather bring them to you and push them away from your opponent. the reality for trump is how he won in '16 was taking three important bricks out of that democratic blue wall. that electoral college blue wall that you know, i know, mara probably talked about and covered. pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. so now he's under water in those states. so if any one of those states goes away from him, he has to get that back plus continue to build or hold what he has. that's what makes this 100-day remaining in the campaign that much more difficult because he can't afford to lose any place else. remember, they wanted to take mi

jonathan lamarre, michael steele, thanks to you as well. appreciate you guys on board. >>> we'll have much more to come tonight including my conversation with francis suarez as his city i merges as the epicenter of the pandemic and congressman a life and legacy of ngcoressman john lewis we're back after this. ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. with spray mopping to lock away debris and absorb wet messes, all in one disposable pad. just vacuum, spray mop, and toss. the shark vacmop, a complete clean all in one pad. >>> i feel lucky and blessed and i'm serving in the congress. and there are forces today trying to take us back to another time and another dark period we've come so far, we've made so much progress but as a nation and people, we haven't got there yet. we have miles to go. >> we have miles to go those are the words of civil rights icon and congressman john lewis that died friday night at the age of 80. we as a nation have to tra

msnbc political analyst, michael steele. and former aid to the george w. bush white house and state departments elise jordan is with us this morning. there is a lot going on on this friday morning. new reporting that hackers from russia's intelligence services are trying to steel coronavirus vaccine research from the united stat states, the uk, and canada. president trump uses the white house as a backdrop for another campaign-style speech, riffing on the important issues facing the country like water pressure out of shower heads and lightbulbs. yep it happened again. a little racial an mouse peppered in as well. with coronavirus infections on the rise more and more u.s. retailers are starting to require masks inside stores and a growing number of states are issuing mandatory mask policies, except for republican governor brian kemp of georgia who started a legal fight with the city of atlanta over its mask mandate, what is that about? with cases surging in florida, republican party leaders decided to scale back next month's convention. the convention that

we have former chairman of the republican national committee michael steele, politics editor for the daily beast, sam stein. and nbc news contributor, shana thomas. the tweet came out yesterday after the show, moments after the government detailed the biggest collapse on record, president trump suggesting a possible delay of the election. top republicans are flatout rejecting the idea. >> never in the history of the country, through wars, depressions, and the civil war have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time. and we'll find a way to do that again this november 3rd. >> never in the history of the federal elections have we ever not held an election and we should go forward with our election. >> we're in the going to delay the election we'll have the voting completed by election day. >> i don't think the federal government can block it -- i don't know. >> the election is going to happen in november, period. >> speaking to reporters yesterday, the president appeared to walk back the idea of moving the election, but at the same time in his usual style continued his att

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and that makes no sense. >> michael steel from the state of maryland. knows maryland very well. thank you so much for your time tonight, michael. >> you got it chris. >> i want to bring in former senator claire mccaskill. i have been watching governor parsons in your state. he appeared in an event with donald trump. missouri has been setting records in races. i wonder how you gauge this dynamic, this sort of subtle ways in which republican governors have kind of put themselves on the side of reopening, on the side of trump, and it makes it hard for him to take the steps he needs to to contain the virus. >> governor parson is totally captured by donald trump. if donald trump called the governor of my state tomorrow and said i need you to put on a leotard and a pink tutu, the governor would say, yes, sir. i looked at a lot of polls in missouri, chris, and the amazing thing is that in the republican party right now, when republican voters are asked, are you a traditional republican, an evangelical republican or a trump republican? in the old days evangelical would be by far the num

joining me on the state of the republican party, michael steele, former chairman of the republican national committee. michael, there are some exceptions, which i'll get to, but i'm curious your interpretation of this. when i look at kemp's actions, i can't make sense of them. it's not do you, brian kemp, issue a statewide mask mandate. what are the politics of saying to atlanta, no, you can't do this when the evidence shows it might help atlanta, might help you, might help save lives. it generally would be helpful for everyone. >> yeah, i think the rationale goes along the lines of that, "a," the president and georgia are kind of aligned because georgia's a red state, and therefore citizens of georgia feel the same way about masks as the president. well, they may. they may have in february and march and april, but in july, when they're looking at the number of family and friends in their community who are stricken by this virus and who have died from this virus -- and it really goes to the little sound you just played with the senator there, thom tillis. reagan said in 1980 and looking at

and "the new york times" correspondent peter baker and michael steele, as well as dr. joshua sharsky, vice dean at the johns hopkins bloomberg school. first, sam, to you, that's where the president is heading. en route to florida, now there are devastating numbers in florida, about how the coronavirus is hitting the state. >> reporter: devastating numbers indeed, andrea. good to be with you. eye mentioned 11,000 new cases today. that means in the last eight days, 71,000 cases in florida. that's more than the states have seen ago gretz. there are loblocks and blocks o people that would like to be tested. they're hitting the limit every single day. if you take a sliver of good news here, andrea, it's the fact for the state of florida, 95,000 tests, the positivity rate came down to about only 15% which is still shockingly high for the rest of the country. but the day before, it was 20.7%. the first time since testing started that more than 1 out of 5 people tested in the state of florida tested positive for covid-19. at the same time that this is happening, testing issues

. >> you know, michael steele, i want to bring you into this. you've been a lieutenant governor. you know how at the gubernatorial or mayoral level how difficult this is. what donald trump is arguing on its face is he is targeting cities like chicago and philadelphia, democratic run cities. it's his long-running narrative that urban cities that have lots of brown and black folks, are inherently dangerous. they're inherently hell holes, hell scapes, now he's got the power to send in what amounts to sort of the jet police, his own little police force to do better than he thinks these mayors are doing. what do you make of the fact that you had some officials like the philadelphia d.a. that we have here who say absolutely not, and we have other mayors who feel pressure from about a separate thing? local crime has nothing to do with these protests. donald trump is the one conflating them. what do you make of the way these mayors are reacting and the sort of difficulty of this? >> well, what you see happening -- and i think ms. pulley has put it exactly right. the dynamics is a very lo

i'll start with you michael steele, he jokes around and then tries to get william barr to do it. >> no, i don't think it was a joke. it served two purposes. first to reiterate his belief vote by mail was fraudulent pact. he wants to continue to perpetuate that narrative. i think the second part was the very, very devastating economic news that hit the airwaves first thing this morning was another way to change the conversation. we always know, we've been in this room before, joy, when there's bad news, economic, global, or just around the corner from the white house, this president is going to find something else for us to talk about. he's going to create -- even if he has to have a bright shining object for the public. that was the second piece of this today. the first piece is the one we should be most concerned about. he's dead seriously thinking about how he can go about having these elections postponed or suspended. the fact that mcconnell and others have softly pushed back on that, their test is going to come when he says with the greater degree of ferocity, no, i'm serious. i th

. >> so, michael steele, let's talk about the political strategy of this, you come from the republican world and helped oversee a lot of campaigns as chair of the rnc. what exactly is he going for here? what is the strategy behind this? again, he's plowing everything into a base he has locked up, if you look at his numbers and has had locked up about five years from now. it doesn't appear there's any olive branch or extension of those who may be considering voting for him. it's just solidifying the people he has. >> it's us against them at this point and the reality that the trump campaign is facing is the "us," which is the base support that you referred to, a lot of the republicans on capitol hill that have sort of curried the president's favor in a number of areas, that is actually weakening some. the numbers are showing, both internal and external polling, showing that that hard 95, 96% of the republican base that's behind the president is now down around 84, 85%. there's been slippage. there has been some weakening of the reception of that message because, guess what, that base is

look, the republicans -- michael steele and i had this conversation before. you guys created an autopsy report of what happened with the hispanic vote. i'm quoting you guys and it said that you had to bring in this new generation voters in order to be able to win anything instead, you decided to vote for donald trump donald trump told us who he was the moment he descended the escalators he created a whole group of people that labeled as you criminals and rapists. it was not a dog whistle, it was a blow horn. he tried to include a citizenship question in the census he was very clear the supreme court decided to rule out that citizenship inclusion question because we were able to find the receipts where a republican operative said they wanted to create white non-hispanic republican districts they didn't even want black people in the party. >> yeah. >> that is what the challenge is right now npr came on board saying because they're trying to circumvent the supreme court decision, he's going directly to states there are four states now that are collaborating tryi

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michael steel and alyssa menendez. let's get you caught up. we have now in america surpassed 130,000 deaths nationwide from coronavirus. nearly 2.9 million people have been infected. over the weekend florida and texas reported their biggest daily rise in new confirmed cases. on saturday, florida added nearly 11,500 cases. and texas reported a record 8,300. on sunday california reported more than 5,400 new cases. while arizona added more than 3,500 major concerns growing over the surge in hospitalization. at least two counties in south texas reportedly say their hospitals are at full capacity. and as florida reports record case numbers, governor ron desantis says he will not close businesses again. we'll have

. >> let's discuss it with former rnc chairman, michael steele. good to see you. hope you're well. i want to talk about something the president just tweeted talking about identity politics thing. i want to know what we should be paying attention to. you heard about the controversy of teams considering renaming their teams. in the last few minutes the president said, quote, they name teams out of strength but not weakness. now, the washington redskins and cleveland indians, two fabled sports franchises look like they will change their names to be politically correct. indians, including elizabeth warren, must be very angry right now, unquote. let me be clear, i only said the two teams named by because they were stated by the president. and we are avoiding it because. does this actually matter in a larger sense? >> it is. it's one big shining object. i am a washingtonian, i grew up with the washington redskins. i will say that because that's part of my experience and culture. i also recognize times and the change that's coming. we need to be a part of it and times in front of that cha

. >>> joining me now michael steel, former rnc chairman and msnbc analyst and john meacham and historian. both are my friends. good to see you. thank you so much. michael, you first here. take a look at what the president's chief of staff mark meadows said on the topic this morning. here it is. >> in portland, we have federal agents there that are protecting a courthouse that actually has not only been vandalized but they're trying to burn it down, george. we can't have this in american cities. so as we look as that, you have people in fencing there but they're throwing molotov cocktails and doing all kinds of rioting there in portland around a courthouse that they desire to burn down. that is very different than what we're doing in chicago and new mexico and in kansas and other areas because what we're trying to do there is come in and help with gang violence and making sure that we make arrests. >> so michael, as you listen to them, is this all part of the president's law and order messaging? >> oh, very much so. absolutely. and the genesis and the impetuous for it in the case of portl

together with the families of george floyd briana taylor flanders steele and michael brown were demanding the un investigate police killings of black people and violent attacks on protesters in the united states actually who they helped him execute to help me. help black people in america now you might call this a single case but it comes amid years of knowledge of u.s. government spying and the detention of people without charges that get mobbed as well as the case of julian a songe extradited to the united states julian assange is could face up to life in prison that case has been dubbed a huge attack on freedom of the press the words of u.k. leaders global britain will be a force for good in the world come across as highly disingenuous it's as if the fact that the founder of wiki leaks is sitting in belmarsh prison has simply left their minds hypocrisy is a you know something that pm at a state has very good at so you know we're seeing a lot of human rights abuses right now it's a long list you know we still have people in guantanamo today we're seeing peaceful protest smashed and almo

with you we appreciate your time tonight and your insights ian thank you my pleasure to be with you michael. france is celebrating its national holiday by steel day but this year public celebrations have been cancelled or scaled back in the capital paris for the 1st time since 1045 authorities have canceled the traditional parade along the state is a instead a much smaller event took place seach ring a tribute to health care workers representatives from 4 european countries including germany were also present as their governments took in $161.00 french virus victims at the height of the coronavirus crisis at home the president has been facing a lot of criticism only recently he told his cabinet but that is not going down well with everyone either especially when it comes to the appointments of justice minister do paul mirecki and the interior minister da may know. was these protesters are carrying gender equality symbolically to its growth. was they say the 2 recent appointments deal a death blow to the promise president in monaco made when he came to power 3 years ago. if it. is accused of

it's not about the steel dossier and what's going on with michael flynn and constant chaos and controversy and putting that in the framework of what we see today because you can't imagine donald trump becoming friendly with any of these former presidents. he said he's open to a friendship with bill clinton but a few dates back to the 2016 election, he invited the women that accused him of rape to a debate with hillary clinton. how can you move beyond that, you can't. some things have become so vicious that i think it's changed the way the former presidents are going to interact going forward. >> host: people go to barbara next. >> caller: hello, steve. she keeps talking about how honest and great he is. i'm sorry. i just have two things. one is out of order, he is the one that hires. last year he had to pay 25 million. he was sued by them at the end. he hires them and doesn't pay them speak of seeking out and said we fired 20 of them after saying they never hired them. i watched this man for 50 years. he's lied to us and has done these things over and over again and i just don't know why w

let me introduce you to our two guests for the next 90 minutes to talk about this steele seizure case. michael gerhardt, a law professor and author of a book called power of precedent, forgotten presidents, their untold constitutional legacy. william howell of the university of chicago. the author of numerous books on presidential powers, including thinking about the presidency and the privacy of power. for both of you, what are the very specific issues about the steele seizure case? what is at the heart of this? >> at a tired, this is a story and a case about presidential power and its limits during times of war. it puts before the central themes of the conditions under which presidents in an emergency can do things that may not be expressly stated in the constitution, and the limits that congress has. >> what makes it a landmark case? >> the critical question the court is unable to avoid is the constitutionality of the presidents seizure of the steel mills that in itself is a titanic with tremendous conflict which is really important at the time. what makes a historic or two things.

it's not about the steel dossier and what's going on with michael flynn and the latest consists chaos about the past. it's putting that in the framework of what we see today which is so very different because you can't imagine donald trump becoming friendly with any of these former presidents. he said he's open to a friendship with bill clinton but if you think back to the 2016 election, donald trump invited those who accused bill clinton of rape and the debate with hillary clinton, how can you move beyond that? you can't. things have gotten so vicious and politics has become such a blunt force that i think it changed the way the former presidents are going to interact going forward. >> barbara in oklahoma city. good morning. >> hi, steve. she keeps talking about how honest and great the man, i'm sorry, you know, i have two things. one, the border and 50 years and last year, he had to pay 25 million, all this happened two or three times, he hires them and doesn't pay them. kushner came out and said we borrowed 20 of them after saying they never hired them. they did hire them. i watche

clinton and the democrats funding christopher steele. christopher steele dug up opposition research on trump team and candidate trump and somehow that information found its way inside of the fbi by the fbi used it to get fisa wiretaps on individuals like carter page. should john durham, u.s. attorney, sit down with hillary clinton and ask what was going on with their funding of the steele dossier? >> i think hillary clinton should be subpoenaed before a grand jury to answer those questions as should be the lawyers from the perkins coy firm who helped mastermind the whole thing and glenn simpson with fusion gps. that information found its way to the fbi through numerous sources including one of the lawyers at perkins coy, who gave james baker, fbi general counsel a thumb drive with information on it. nellie ohr was feeding it to her husband bruce ohr. some came from the state department. some came from christopher steele. it was a well-organized, multifaceted operation. elizabeth: all right. sidney powell. great to have you on. come back

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d.c. -- and this is "bloomberg markets" as we wait for stimulus from d.c., michael mckee joins me now. have we learned anything on the treasury side? we got insights on the main street lending program. mike: congress wants to know how funds were doled out. some of the larger companies, maybe publicly traded companies, got paid. many of the smaller companies, especially minority on companies, did not get aid. alix: i wonder if the fixes will make it easier to come to some kind of an agreement sooner or later? mike: probably not with the ppp. there is still billions of dollars left in it that was not used. the question is whether or not they continue the unemployment program. the $600 expires july 25. there are other expiring provisions for rent protection, forbearance for home loans. essentially we are facing a fiscal cliff. alix: i totally agree. wondering, it feels like the $600 extension won't happen. bill de blasio saying we will not reopen anything in phase 4. mike: it is beginning to look like we will slide back into negative numbers. that may put pressure on congress. open tonis

involved in the campaign was bought and paid for by the dnc, the clinton campaign was contained in the steele dossier. that is the truth. that is the russian disinformation. i have heard no outrage on the part of our democratic colleagues about that russian disinformation. but we are still undergoing our investigation and we're trying to seek documents out of the state department involved in that steele dossier. let me ask you a question, in october 2016, former state department official jonathan weiner arranged for christopher steele to provide the antitrump dossier he compiled for the dnc. mr. winer gave mr. steele information collected by supporters which mr. steele passed on to the fbi. this conduct raises serious concerns under the hatch act, federal records act and other department policies. although then i.g. linick acknowledged conducting review of this conduct he has not published any of his findings and admitted the oig did not interview any of the key players. are you aware of these issues and can you commit to the -- commit that the department will be responsive to our requests fr

involved in the campaign was bought and paid for by the dnc, the clinton campaign was contained in the steele dossier. that is the truth. that is the russian disinformation. i have heard no outrage on the part of our democratic colleagues about that russian disinformation. but we are still undergoing our investigation and we're trying to seek documents out of the state department involved in that steele dossier. let me ask you a question, in october 2016, former state department official jonathan weiner arranged for christopher steele to provide the antitrump dossier he compiled for the dnc. mr. winer gave mr. steele information collected by supporters which mr. steele passed on to the fbi. this conduct raises serious concerns under the hatch act, federal records act and other department policies. although then i.g. linick acknowledged conducting review of this conduct he has not published any of his findings and admitted the oig did not interview any of the key players. are you aware of these issues and can you commit to the -- commit that the department will be responsive to our requests fr