that by and large help trump and her clinton. >> going deep with sheryl sandberg i want to get to in a minute what made them make that decision? and if they are liberal or libertarian but to say we see this and not do anything about it. >> so reconstruct the frame of 2016. three things were happening with the election. first is that trump uses facebook in the way it supposed to be used. and then to share with me during the course of the book it was beautiful. essentially the trump campaign plays facebook like a stradivarius like a harvard banjo you find in the street. the trump campaign accepted to help show them the ins and outs and then the clinton campaign is part one and then misinformation people found they could make money by circulating fake stories with publications that did not exist that would make hillary clinton look bad like pizza gate running a child trafficking ring add pizzeria in washington and then people go to a page where there are ads to be financially motivated campaign and then russian involvement and then to have much exposure as the misinformation campaign bu

sandberg marcus zucker burke and leaders from civil rights groups the civil rights groups had to pretty clear ideas so what they want to from facebook and how to change things there is this overall group called them stop them hate for profit and they pushed in hundreds of companies to stop advertising at facebook pages at least i'm for now but what we hear so far is certain meeting has not gone very well at least of the civil rights groups are saying that facebook was not really open for the demands for example to have a top executive it's a facebook installed was a civil rights of background which is a regular independent audit so it sounded rather disappointing and the civil rights groups were saying that basically facebook used it as a p.r. stunt but it's not willing to really change on wednesday we will by the way get another audit from facebook published in the stock price that just by the side reached all time intraday high in tuesday session. in new york thank you. and the other business stories making headlines. new york regulators say deutsche a bug has agreed to pay $150000000

meeting with civil rights groups, this was initially going to be a meeting with sheryl sandberg. the chief product officer as well. now we understand mark zuckerberg will also be meeting some of the key civil rights leaders who have really pushed for change. how public a meeting might this be? >> i expect it will be very tough. as you pointed out, facebook offered up a meeting with sheryl sandberg and the chief product officer, chris coxe, and the civil rights group said, no, we will not eat unless zuckerberg is at the table. that kind of set the tone that they wanted to go immediately to the top. what we have seen over the past couple of years is that these groups have been critical of facebook. they have been very vocal in the press with this and boycott. anticipate that we will hear very shortly after the meeting how it went. i am not really convinced facebook and give them a lot of what they are asking for. i will be surprised if the reaction is that facebook kind of stepped up to the plate. caroline: many civil rights leaders have said, we have done a decent amount on discri

according to the group's leaders their meeting with zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg didn't go very well. they heard nothing in the meeting that facebook takes their complaints seriously. they got, quote, same old talking points. they went on to say, this isn't over. civil rights audit commissioned by facebook, two year review by experts planned way before the george floyd protest. that external audit found the company failed to address issues of bigotry, hatred, manipulation own the platform. their approach to civil rights is too reactive and piece peel. the office said facebook needs to hire its own incertainnal civil rights experts. they do not fact check politicians, with quote, less than five months before a presidential election it confounds the auditors why facebook failed to grasp the your again sy. facebook coo sheryl sandberg said in an online post we made real progress over the years but this work is never finished we have a big responsibility facebook has to finding and removing hateful content. the back and forth, charles will likely continue. back to you. charles: certainly

sandberg. company also boycott. two-year civil rights audit released found facebook has made painful decisions in recent months that have real-world consequences that are serious for civil rights. joining me now, derek johnson, ceo of the naacp. welcome back to the broadcast. first off, i want to hear about this meeting. i'm curious about the mood, the tone, and if you got any sense that zuckerberg was receptive to you. >> the meeting has gone like previous meetings. they were always pleasant meetings. there appears to be more interest in having meetings than resolving the issue that groups have been talking about for over two-plus years. we have to take precautionary measures to ensure people are safe and our democracy is protected. facebook gives very flowery words but no action. >> i guess i'm going to understand the answer to your response when you say you went in with ten suggestions and you left with nothing. what is it that you think facebook is resisting most? >> possibly to fall to pub

sheryl sandberg responding to these findings, as hard as it has been to have our short comes exposed. we would urge companies in our industry and beyond to do the same now, the criticism from the audit echos the criticism of the civil rights groups that organized the stop hate for profit boycott of facebook meeting with mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg last night and calling that meeting disappointing. saying that facebook's management is not ready to address the hate on their platform it's unresponse toif the demands of dozens of their largest advertisers. now, they also say that zuckerberg offered no automatic recourse for advertisers whose content runs alongside hateful posts and asking why facebook recommendations hateful groups and zuckerberg didn't offer any plans how facebook will address what they call rampant disinformation and violent conspiracies now, while facebook has said repeatedly that it would not fold to pressure from advertisers, the fact that facebook commissioned the civil rights audit and opened the doors to its auditors for two years indicates that it could b

. ♪ ♪ jack: is so, ben, this week civil rights activists met with mark zucker egger, sheryl sandberg -- zuckerberg. and they came away pretty disappointed, but the market was happy, and facebook shares went up again. >> yeah. i mean, the stock just won't stay down. even with these businesses boycotting, they're just not going away. and neither are the people who use it. so the stock has made back most to have losses that it had after this boycott was first announced. jack: so, carlton, you talked to him as part of the barron's investing in tech series about a lot of different topics including facebook. what did he have to say about that? >> he had some interesting views on the boycott and some of the unintended consequences that the boycott could have. jack: one of his points was that he feels it could hurt small businesses. i think we have that clip to show. >> if you severely affect the platform and diminish its effectiveness, diminish its performance, you damage the performance of small businesses. jack: so what do you think of that, carlton? i'm actually going to disagree with si

coo sheryl sandberg responded saying quote, what has become increasingly clear is we have a long way to go. the company's plan for action includes hiring more civil rights experts and directing users to a voting information center with accurate information. >> facebook used to have the motto, move fast and break things. at this point i think facebook is moving slow and maintaining the status quo. they need to get back to the nimbleness and react more quickly to the situations that are being pointed out to them. >> reporter: color of change has been organizing and advertising boycott of facebook, but simultaneously working with the company. they say now is the time to turn words and action. >> it is incredibly important that we don't allow a company that is this powerful and hold so much of people's personal data to erode democratic norms and civil rights norms that leaders have been fighting for, for generations. >> reporter: according to color of change, more than 900 companies are currently participating in the boycott. >>> in marin county, tensions are building between a group of

in 2012, i'm looking at a document that was produced, it's a presentation prepared for sheryl sandberg to deliver to the board of directors of a major telecommunications firm boasting that, quote: facebook is now 95% of all social media in the united states. the title of this slide is even, quote: the industry consolidates as it matures. so as i look at that graph, i think most folks would concede that facebook was a monopoly as early as 2012, but nonetheless, i understand that we disagree on that point. would you agree with me that facebook, its strategy since that time to essentially protect what i described as a monopoly but obviously what you would describe as market power, that facebook has been engaged in purchasing competition, in some cases replicating competition and in some cases eliminating competition. would that be a fair statement in -- statement? >> congressman, the space of people connecting with other people is a very large space, and i would agree that there were different approaches that we took to addressing different parts of that space. but it's all in the -- of b

it was a continuation of a call to dig in deep with mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg about how the platform is dealing with voter suppression, and what they are going to do to protect their elections in a climate when a country is as polarized as we may have ever been, where we have elected officials and politicians giving out misinformation about voting. almost on a daily basis where it will only get more intensified. problems around supremacy and hate are going unchecked. this was a conversation to continue to push. the civil rights audit report gives a certain heft to the concerns that we have been levying. this is not the end game by any stretch of the imagination. the company is under enormous pressure from civil rights advocates. and this audit from the boycott, from employees internally who have been dismayed about some of the decisions that mark has made, vis-a-vis posts from the president, and others that seem to weaponize the platform. we have made some progress on having ahese policies, voter suppression policy, having a more rigorous policy to combat hate online. omissi

. ♪ taylor: facebook ceo mark zuckerberg and coo sheryl sandberg met today with a group of civil rights leaders who have organized a boycott of facebook products. anti-defamation league ceo jonathan greenblatt was in the meeting. jonathan, what is your key takeaway from that meeting? jonathan: thank you for having me tonight. look, adl is the oldest anti-hate organization in the world. we have seen a lot. but i have not quite seen what we experienced today. the meeting was disappointing, to say the least. we, and the stop hate for-profit coalition which includes naacp, many groups, we laid out an agenda weeks ago. our recommendations are simple, straightforward, doable. facebook asked us for this meeting. we expected them to share details and time frames to execute on our recommendations. instead, we did not get details and we did not get time frames. so this fell far short of what we were expecting. taylor: are you worried than that meetings are conversations with facebook are talking the talk but you have not necessarily seen walk the walk yet? jonathan: that is a fair way of putting

mark zuckerberg and coo sheryl sandberg, after the meeting, they lacked the cultural sensitivity to understand their platform is being used to cause harm or they understand the harm their platform is causing and choosing to take the profit. facebook says they are committed to stopping it. >> the state university faculty union, for minority students. black, native and indigenous students shouldn't have to pay anything due to declining enrollment. the removal of this deeply racist institution from our site of higher learning, a full abolition of the police, the group says the university should not rely on police for safety. >> us and timberlake calling to remove confederate statues. todd: writing and part, quote, no one should be protecting the legacies of confederate leaders and slaveowners. these monuments must come down. carley: a fed up fitness club owner taking up his legal fight with new york governor andrew cuomo. todd: it doesn't take sense to keep jim's clothes when restaurants reopen. reinventing. it's what small businesses do. with comcast business, your small business can work faster

sandberg. you look at their diversity report, they've made a lot of progress on women, but not much progress on black employees, especially when comes to black engineers. i asked her, is that a failure of leadership of zuckerberg and sandberg, who say they care about these things, yet we are not seeing those numbers move. take a look at what aims at his say. --maxine williams had to say. maxine: i've never worked in a place where we had this much leadership driving this. we need to do it faster, we need to do it better. leadership saying what other resources we need to do this, we will apply them. emily: she is saying she has never worked at a company where the leaders are more supportive of this. if not for leadership, how are these companies, how is uber going to get this done? lizette: there is going to be -- there are a lot of movements and a lot of different initiatives taking place across tech, across venture capital, to make this industry look more like america and more like the communit

sandberg on these issues as you pressed on that phone call >> well, we pushed we did push. and, you know, cheryl and mark and the other executives have a tone of what we're here to listen and this is a journey and we basically said look, there is no journey in the fight against hate it's pretty clear. either you exhibit the kind of standards and practices that all other media companies do, and you say there's no room for hate in this business, or you kind of dance around the issues and make, give us platitudes by the end of the call mark said i'm pleased to hear the nuances of these issues. i said look, mark, there's no nuance to white nationalism. it's wrong and it doesn't belong not on facebook or on any other kind of mainstream media platform so i think there was a sense of exas p exasperation they were unable to respond to some basic stuff. another statistic that we heard -- >> i was going to say, when you say that to him, when you say that to mark, what does he say back >> well, there's a little bit of, you know there aren't always the direct answers that we would hope

sandberg. she remains a figure that has come into some criticism, but she is good at not being in the spotlight and get i know from the close reading of the first she was right there in the middle of the golden goose that created and help monetize that targeted advertising and was the basis of what we call surveillance capitalism. she then took that and so i'm always struck and have to say i am rather cynical when i hear her in particular in these many congressional testimonies say when they are confronted with this or that latest scandal, we couldn't possibly know and we did this we could. so anyone held for the chief economist for the playbook for this is all there is a should we be blaming sheryl moore she is there for the liberalism and everything we are talking about now. >> guest: she was a major participant in that and a major business model. i found someone who was with sheryl the day of her orientation. usually for many years it was chris cox and now again i think the chief officer in

sandberg agreed to meet next week with representatives from the defamation league, color of change in the naacp. this groups are pushing for facebook to crack down on hate speech. starbucks, clorox and forward among many companies suspending advertising on facebook. the civil rights groups started the boycott with the hashtag stop hate for profit. >>> san francisco different attorney chesa boudin part of a push to confront racism in the criminal justice system joining with das from boston and philadelphia to help with the pilot effort to tackle racial inequities and police violence and misconduct, the group will be patterned after the south african postapartheid troop recreation commission, the commission helped air justice happened during more than 40 years of apartheid rule. the grassroots law project is leading the effort that is expected to be operational by the fall. >>> coming up, dozens of southbay educators potentially exposed to the coronavirus all because of an in person meeting nearly 2 weeks ago. >>> later in sports more nba players test positive for the coronavirus, how i

emily: have you talked to mark zuckerberg or sheryl sandberg personally? jim: i have not had a personal conversation with them in the past few weeks. i have talked with them about these issues in the past. it is not a personal attack on them. this is an attack -- this is a campaign against the company and their practices. we have tried not to make it a personal attack. we are insisting the folks at the top of that company make these changes in the best interests of our kids, our families and our democracy. emily: the recent post by president trump, threatening violence on the american people is at the center of this controversy. how much does this campaign have to do with facebook's stance on that versus everything else? is it about trump or is it about something else? jim:jim: we have been very clear this is a nonpartisan campaign. by the reason common sense media has been successful is because we are genuinely nonpartisan. this is not about donald trump or one party or the other. this is about a healthy, respectable civic discourse. about eliminating the

sheryl sandberg responding to the findings -- as hard as it's been to expos o-- they echo the criticisms by the civil rights a groups behind the boycott that met with facebook management yesterday. they called the meeting disappointing. now, facebook has said it would not fall not fold for pressure, but it does seem they could be compelled to take some of the recommendations. >> julia, thank you. >>> let's get to steve weiss steve, it looks like facebook is under a lot of pressure when it comes to the issues of up civil rights and hate speech. >> it is i'm sticking with it ultimately i have to believe that mark zuckerberg is more intelligence and a better business person than he is arrogant right now the arrogance seems to be taking hold. >> then how does he go into a meeting yesterday with civil rights leaders, who have already outlined their grievances, called successfully for a boycott which many big advertisers have joined, and not be able to appease them in any way? >> you think one of two ways -- he should be the president or he should be less arrogant. that's what i mean he's havi

zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg making a big push recently to help small businesses who are the majority of advertisers on their platform he do expect to hearing some questions about other issues that facebook has, the proliferation of hate speech, the spread of misinformation and questions about manipulation around the election. so i think those questions are about to come up, but zuckerberg will say they got big and successful the old-fashioned american way and abiding by the laws. >> julia, you raise a good topic. this is about antitrust, but we're likely to hear about a number of other issues, as well, julia, right >> i think this is an opportunity for the lawmakers to make a number of points. obviously antitrust is what is most in focus, but i think we can definitely expect to hearing questions about the issue of hate speech, which is an issue particularly for facebook and google, which owns youtube then for amazon, there's the question of how their employees have been treated, so there's so many different issues at play, and i think antitruth will be first among many. >> what's tim

she is reporting to sheryl sandberg. meantime, cases of covid-19 continue to rise. california reporting near record new cases and deaths. florida, arizona, montana also seeing searches. round ofgton the next stimulus relief could come as early as next week according to mitch mcconnell. house speaker nancy pelosi told bloomberg the urgency of a stimulus package is real. >> it is been two months. more people have died, more people have gone unemployed and more people have been infected. romaine: nab -- >> abigail, what are you seeing? abigail: when you add up the headlines from the day, the news, the commentary, a rocket day for the markets. as you mentioned, pricking a two-day rally. stocks couldn't get out of their ,wn way today, ending near bearing the losses. the s&p 500 had been down far more. point downat one more than 1%. big take a drag. that momentum trade that had worked for so many weeks, in fact months, really spluttering. some of the china stock weakness seems to be linked to that. and before talking about netflix on the day, there were some big early mov

interesting sheryl sandberg said late or earlier this year that 8 million advertisers so there's a lot of people advertising on facebook and there's god reason for it. it's very effective and i've heard anecdotally a lot of brands struggle with this because facebook's audience is so right for picking and makes it hard to cut your ad budget to them. howie: right, right, journalists writing new york times that she's deleting facebook account, deactivate it. zuckerberg not making the left or the right happy because he's controversial, we are out of time, thank you very much for your help brett larson. howie: hope you're enjoying the mouth of july i celebrated by watching the movie hamilton, what a brilliant play, check out facebook page, we continue the conversation on twitter and you might want to listen to podcast media buzz meter, you can subscribe at apple itunes or google pad cost or now on amazon device. we are back here next sunday 11:00 eastern, see you then with the latest buzz. ♪ ♪ . . . (burke) at farmers, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. like how n

sandberg responding, quote -- as hard as it's been to have our shortcomings exposed, it's undoubtedly been an important process for our company. the auditors echo the criticisms of the -- nearly 1,000 ties e advertisers, calling their meeting yesterday dis appointing shares of twitter is up based on rumor of of a subscription service. the ceo jack dorsey has said in the past he ade kicked around an idea snap shares are up more than 5%, increase from bank the america getting back to facebook at home, for those at home keeping track of the head winds facing -- that is separate, those two issues are separate from the issues every section 230 of the communications decency act facebook has been engaging civil rights groups for years now. they had issues regarding targeting ad on descriptions fo things like real estate advertisements when they made the changes to the targeting criteria, they said le will undergo this two-year-long audit led by civil rights leaders the fact that those results come out today echo the complaints of the boycotts and the nearly 1,000 advertisers that are partici

sandberg at facebook. we remain steadfast in our call for facebook to set up a permanent civil rights infrastructure, including executives at the highest level, the c-suite level, ready to apply civil rights laws and first amendment definitions to every product from policy to staffing. and facebook to immediately release the final results of their civil rights audit. we are tired of the stalling and sick of the excuses. facebook employees, civil rights groups like color of change, and more than 400 corporations are calling on facebook to meet this critical moment in history with more than a collection. they cannot continue to profit from hate speech in this way. meantime, you in the past have talked about how mark zuckerberg has so much power running a company of this size. how do you see that in focus at this very moment? arisha: i think it is incredibly important, especially as facebook continues to fight regulation. it is clear that they are unable to police their platform. it is clear that they are so

zuckerberg and coo sheryl sandberg will talk to representatives of the antidefamation league, color change and the end of the acp. these groups are demanding that facebook crackdown on hate speech. starbucks, clorox and ford are among the many companies that have pulled their advertising from facebook. >>> fulsome link near sacramento is limiting the number of people this fourth of july holiday weekend. restrictions are now being put in place to help prevent the spread of covid-19 by creating better social distancing. in order to comply with the latest guidelines from the state, officials say they will be leading in about to the lake should expect delays as well as some closures. >> lake tahoe is also seeing some large crowds coming in for the holiday weekend and local officials have several safety concerns. parking lots and campgrounds are packed and businesses that were struggling two months ago are now overwhelmed with tourist. adding to the influx of tourists is a shortage of employees. state park officials say demands due to the coronavirus are making it hard to carry out basic functi

zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg had met with leaders yesterday, the president of the naacp said that facebook's executives skirted major commitments to new rules or actions that would curb racism and misinformation. the organization wanted facebook to ban groups that promote white supremacy, vaccine misinformation or violent conspiracy theories. facebook said the meeting had reaffirmed their commitment to combating hate on the site. >>> a man captured on camera, berating an asian family inside of a mirror would restaurant is now being identified as the ceo of a san francisco based tech company. >> you need to leave. >> you need to leave now. >> get out of here. >> you are not allowed here. >> he has been identified as the ceo of solid eight, a san francisco cloud computing company. the waitress demands that he leave after insulting a family at another table. he later issued a statement saying my behavior in the video is appalling. this was clearly a moment where i had lost control and made it incredibly hurtful and divisive comments. i would like to deeply apologize to the family. the tech comp

sandberg appreciated, but is it too little too late? this boycott started two weeks ago. >> julia, we'll check back in with you on that reporting as we get it >>> let's talk about what's going on in the cruise industry. they're launching a joint task force called healthy sale to address covid health concerns. it's always interesting to see two competitors do a joint interview. here's what the two ceos had to say exclusively to miss seema earlier today. >> there will be changes, but i think the changes won't undermine the fundamental fact that people are buying a cruise for a moralist experience, and we understand we need to deliver that moralist experience >> they'll be docked they're wanting to cruise with us we believe that the long-term viability of this business is intact, and we're going through a rough patch with this virus, but we're confident this rough patch will not last forever. >> seema, it seems like they're getting frustrated and they're saying, we're tired of waiting and waiting and waiting, we want to come up with regula

we later saw sheryl sandberg of the coo, sitting to the twitter ceo, jack dorsey. it will be interesting to see how all of these ceos potentially in one room together, what that actually looks like. what are you hearing from facebook in terms of shaping our understanding of what is going to happen on that day? making their argument that facebook should not be broken up? prettyacebook has had consistent talking points for a while on this front. they treat their side as an advantage. they talk about things like hate speech, motor misinformation and say, if we want this big, we would not have the resources to go out and fight this stuff. they pointed to a company like twitter, which is much smaller and said, look at the money we're spending is bigger than their entire annual revenue. i imagine facebook will continue that line of argument, and also, they talked a lot about asking for regulation saying, we want to participate in the regulatory process. they want to shape whatever rules come into play. i imagine they will make those similar arguments we have been hearing

today ceo mark zuckerberg and coo sheryl sandberg talk with organizers trying to combat hate speech on the site. the president of the naacp says facebook's executive skirted major commitments to new rules, or actions, that would curb racism and misinformation. the organization wants facebook to be in groups that support white supremacy, vaccine misinformation or violent conspiracy theories. facebook says the meeting reaffirmed its commitment to combating hate on the site. >>> fast turnaround times are essential for contact tracings. >> in efforts to ramp up coronavirus tasting, why lagging results seem to be the problem. >>> and our chief meteorologist is back with a full forecast. ♪don't stop me now i'm having such a good time ♪ superfast internet. it's a beautiful thing. superfast internet with an xfinity flex 4k streaming device included? even beautiful-er. and now flex also comes with peacock. ooh la la. this rare bird lets you stream tons of movies, shows, news, sports and more. and with flex, it's all at your beck and call... show me parks and rec! see? the best really did ge

facebook's mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg met with civil rights activists yesterday to discuss that advertising boycott. it's been very effective. activists say they were disappointed in the meeting. in a conference call after the meeting rashad robinson, head of color of change, said, quote, facebook showed up to the meeting expecting an "a" for attendance. attendance alone is not enough. robinson will also speak on the "today" show coming up at 7:00. >> what's going to continue to happen unless facebook fixes things is corporations are going to put up ads and they're going to show up next to white nationalists and white supremacist organizations and groups that are calling for a second civil war, who are saying some of their most hateful and egregious things. >> you can see more on the "today" show coming up at 7:00. a quick check of the markets, mildly higher. the futures call the best that investors place after a pretty solid drubbing yesterday as we were talking about earlier. one day the markets think the economy is reopening so up they go. the next day they realize that, wow,

this comes on the heels of mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg convening civil rights leaders for a dialogue about race. according to the participants of the meeting that was also a fail. color of change's president called the meeting, quote, a disappointment, and the anti-defamation league that the meeting yielded, quote, no changes, no timeline, no response to our specific requests. now cyber experts tell us it is unlikely any of these issues will have an impact on facebook's bottom line. the company is doing very well these days but they do say an audit like this is important because over time the pressure campaign on social media giants to take more accountability for racial content on their platforms is going to have a big change on their policies. jackie. jackie: gillian turner. thank you so much. connell. reporter: you bet. connell: virus testing, jackie, adding a major stress threat to college athletic budgets. students are returning to campus hopefully for their fall seasons. not happening apparently with the ivy league this hour. dr. greg stuart, the team physician at tulane for th

sandberg, the c.o.o. and other executives. here's a statement from the group afterwards saying that facebook approached our meeting today like it was nothing more than a p.r. exercise, according to them, but boycott coalition leaders and advertisers understand the #stop hate for profit effort is about lives, safety and freedom of our communities and they say there was nothing actionable that came out of it. more than 1,000 companies have paused advertising on facebook sparked by this #stop hate for profit movement and they say facebook is a platform that proliferates hate speech, violence and misinformation. this morning we have facebook releasing its findings from their two-year internal civil rights audit, sheryl sandberg posting in on facebook, saying there's still a long way to go for facebook. some changes might include hiring a civil rights leader to help facebook decipher future content, also facebook needs to improve voter suppression. take a look at the stock, it hit record highs this week so des

expected mark and sheryl sandberg to take a much more conciliatory turn on their demands that facebook do more to andent voter suppression, hate speech on its platform, and instead, they said what they heard was a lack of commitment and a lack of timeline on making substantive changes to the company's practices on this. and you know, this came after they had organized very successful advertiser boycotts on the platform. which included, you know, hundreds of companies. are we just continuing to see mark zuckerberg kind of get on the back foot when it comes to these issues? what really needs to happen at facebook, do critics say? naomi: mark is in a tough spot and facebook is in a top spot. on the one hand, they have this desire to take a hands-off approach to political speech. mark zuckerberg has said multiple times he does not want facebook to become an arbiter of truth. on the other hand, you have civil rights groups who are saying, ok, free speech is great, but you have a lot of problematic content on the platform. there are people trying to use facebook to suppress voting in electio

when mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg do nothing, that's great for wall street. it says they aren't going to spin more money trying to moderate content they are not going to limit the types of content they post, which might be popular and get some advertising from super fans and they are going to do nothing" the facebook model is awesome monetary model they see out of 7 million advertisers brands are not important, maybe 10% of total advertising. my opinion is slightly different than that assessment, which is why we have a whole. all set at auction, up to a million businesses going bankrupt because doors have closed during covid lockdowns and now 1,000 brand advertisers globally boycotting facebook both of those are down drafts that affect every auction price and cost per thousand that facebook sells i think it will show up in the p&l. when it does, wall street will reassess. >> your price target is? >> we have a hold. we don't do price targets for holds. >> thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> up next twitter makes a move higher one firm lays out top picks

sheryl sandberg responded, quote, it is better to do more and move faster especially if that means you don't have competitors build products that take some of our users facebook product management director added that, quote, i would love to be far more aggressive and nimble in copying competitors. has facebook ever taken steps to prevent competitors from getting foot holds by copying competitors? >> congresswoman, i view it as our job to understand what people are finding valuable in all the services they use. certainly if someone -- >> do you copy your competitors? >> congresswoman, we've certainly adapted features that others have let in, as have others copied and adapted features that we have. >> i'm not concerned about others, i'm asking you, mr. zuckerberg since march of 2012 and that e-mail conversation how many competitors did facebook end up copying? >> congresswoman, i can't give you a number. >> less than five? >> congresswoman, i don't know. >> less than 50? estimates? your team was making a plan. how did it play out? >> congresswoman, i'm not sure i agree with the premise h

. >> yeah, sheryl sandberg has an interesting post this morning, guys of course, they're meeting with organizers of the boycott and civil rights advocates today, but says they're making these changes, for example, david, what's app no longer responding to hong kong requests for user data in terms of law enforcement. along with microsoft and -- or twitter and google, but she says we're making the changes not for financial reasons or advertiser pressure but because it's the right thing to do. >> yeah. >> and that's going to be met with a healthy dose of skepticism, dave. >> as it should be, i think, as it should be, given what we watch what mr. zuckerberg has done, says he will do. it typically does come down to making sure the bottom line of the company is protected facebook, you know, we talked a lot, mike, about the advertisers who are at least pausing at this point, so many big names, but really it hasn't done much to slow the momentum of the stock many investors there simply come back to a multiple that they say is 20 times gap earnings. >> yeah. >> no, exactly now, what's interest

sandberg pressures mounting to stop the spread of hate speech and misinformation ahead of the election in november the civil rights leaders saying the meeting did not result in any new commitments from the company. >>> also this morning, there's growing outrage over a fatal police shooting in phoenix, arizona. officers opening fire on a man in a parked car and as you can see, it was all caught on camera nbc's steve patterson joins us from police headquarters in phoenix. steve good morning >> reporter: craig, good morning to you a bystander took video of the incident on his cell phone leading protesters to demand answers about what happened during that shooting a warning, the video you're about to see could be described as disturbing. overnight new calls for justice. protesters demanding answers in the killing of james garcia. the incident captured on a bystander's cell phone camera. officers shouting at garcia sitting inside this parked far and then firing a barrage of bullets. [ gunshots ] the video don't clearly show what happened in the moments before the gunfire or what led up to t

then, a quote from sheryl sandberg about the results of this audit, she says we have clear policies against hate and we strive constantly to get better and faster at enforcing them. we have a long way to go but we are making progress. so the idea is that facebook values free expression and allowing people to make free expression, the question is whether you can squelch some of that through some of the methods that are detractors or demanding. >> and whether you want to squelch all of that, you have some folks who work within facebook saying that a maga facebook is squelching. but you mentioned of those big gains, they need to advertise on facebook and they will be back. >> john: charles payne, good to see you. >> sandra: thank you john. a new report claiming the former girlfriend of jeffrey epstein, will it help her avoid a lengthy prison sentence? inflammation in your eye might be to blame. looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes! over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me. xiidra works

sheryl sandberg and the groups that started this movement were protesting what they call the hate speech and calls for violence on the platform along with misinformation that they say were proliferating unabated. zuckerberg was more hesitant than twitter to shield or add warning labels to certain posts and that includes president trump's controversial minneapolis post where he said that when the looting starts, the shooting starts. now, this #stop hate for profit movement also started gathering momentum and more and more major advertisers jumped on. they were pausing their facebook ads. that's when zuckerberg offered an olive branch of sorts. he says going forward they will add some warning labels to controversial posts in the future but despite all this uproar, facebook hit a record high the last two sessions, regaining virtually all the losses from the initial boycotts and this morning, goldman sachs reiterating that they are calling this stock a buy still. ashley: fascinating. susan, thank you very much. next case, jpmorgan saying a biden win would be neutral to slightly positive for

sandberg and jack dorsey to make billions and billions of dollars personally while keeping hate groups on their sites. >> allowing them to fester. >> allowing them to fester and spread. they allow -- that man right there is responsible, more than anybody else in america, for the spread of hate speech and racism and misinformation about a pandemic that's killed 130,000 americans. and for disinformation that is trying to rig the election, to actually undermine the american democracy. and he's doing a half measure, saying oh, we can't do anything about it. >> let's bring in nbc news reporter ben collins, who has been following this story closely. ben, facebook keeps releasing these statements, saying we know we need to get better. so, when? >> i don't know when they're going to take the full step that's necessary here. we knew about this for a month. we talked about this, what, two weeks ago? there was a terror attack that was planned on a federal agent on facebook in a boogaloo facebook group. that happened over a month ago. that happened a long time ago. that group got removed yesterday

so, take us inside that room, if you will, with mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg. you laid out your case and they said what? >> well, it was the same information we've heard before. there was nothing new. in fact, they asked us for the meeting. we provided them with information. they've had it for over three weeks. and we get on the phone and they want us to rehash what we had already sent to them. unfortunately, it was a waste of time. they are tone-deaf to what corporations are saying. they are tone-deaf to what many people across this country are saying. and we simply want a platform that protects people and protects our democracy. >> so, let's be specific, mr. johnson, about what you would like to see out of facebook. what are two or three things that you think facebook could do this morning that would help protect people from the hate and the bile that's spewed on facebook? >> they need to be more aggressive with removing white supremacist groups off the platform so the platform is not used by those groups to recruit and plan these that cause harm to individua