mark: woodward wilson was out of the closet racist was that he. ben: oh yeah. in the white house. mark: he re-segregated the federal government. when you look at the black lives matter movement, it is openly anti-somatic and is been part of the mission statement has it not? ben: oh yeah, one of the great tricks that have been played right now, the overloading of the term black lives matter, they say black lives matter and say okay, we have a whole agenda, we don't agree with the agenda, so you say black lives don't matter. it is pretty ridiculous. mark: i specifically consider boardroom scene happening in the country crystallized to the democratic party. nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house has endorsed ilhan omar running against somebody on the anti-semitism. nancy pelosi endorses or and brings her revolution to the floor a year ago and even though with ilhan omar in her persistent anti-semitic statements. in anti-american statements two. the democrat party as an institution has not been public speaking out about anti-semitism and not been speaking out about the rights or anyth

wilson who is definitely in favor of what he called the constitution, at the same time he argued that the president should never pervert statues to pursue policy end. he seemed to think it was immoral and when to say the meaning of the constitution can change over time, why would it be the case that the president could never acquire authority to permit statute through ingenious interpretation. i claim that wilson was insufficiently wilsonian in his embrace by a more basic claim with respect to progressives more generally. i do think that originalist can be wrong about the original constitution and i think that jack is right, presidents, some conservative presidents have wrapped themselves in the mantle of the founders to make arguments about the original presidency out of wrong in that of course is an originalist argument and is being used in service of an expansive presidency but i still do believe that the argument can at least be evaluated and maybe it will be hard to evaluate sometimes, may be able to be less hard to evaluate but the claim that the constitution's meaning can an au

bush in 2000 woodward terrorism only came out once. no major organization pulled about it. woodrow wilson when elected said when it be funny if i had to concern myself with fund on - - foreign affairs because i spent so much time talking about domestic affairs? he had to wrestle with world war i. everybody has a big surprise and that's a black swan. what he would understand the job if you can act in a moment of crisis. >>. >> cannot ideological purity. >> here's a question do you think it's possible for congress to assert itself in this era presidential obsession? talking he want to make it a more manageable job congress needs to step up. is that possible? >> i don't see how it happened. you hear this all the time i'm sure. senators of both parties say i just want to vote. that they don't take votes in the future is tied to the president of their party. even in the off year election. they say it's a referendum of that in office. they always money from the same interest groups. and those who had very different interest. and now it's from the state interest groups that makes