senior economist at the nonprofit upjohn institute for employment research in kalamazoo, michigan. christopher o'leary, let's work away backwards. can you explain what president trump's executive action when it came to unappointed insurance he signed this weekend, what it did in how it compares to what was offered under the cares act? guest: good morning, john. thank you for having me on. pleasure to be on washington journal. certainly i can address the executive order. i read it. theink i understand objective. up and talke back about this whole idea of supplementing unemployment. it is interesting. there have been eight recessions since the eisenhower administration. every one the federal government has extended the duration of regular state on employment insurance benefits. there was a modest additional compensation added during the great recession in 2009. $25 added. check.d to every benefit it went largely unnoticed. recognized the existing unappointed insurance system is inadequate in many ways. in particular in terms of income replacement. , think the executive order let's ho

and for employment research in kalamazoo, michigan. let's start with the plaintiffs more earthly backwards from there. president trump's executive action when he came to an employment insurance. he signed this weekend. what actually did and howee that compares what was offered under the cares act. guest: good morning johnn and thank you for having me on. certainly i've addressed the executive order. it read it. and i think i understand the true projective pretty well first let me back up if i make. and talk about this whole idea of complementing the unemployment rate i think there has been eight recessions since the eisenhower ministration. and everyone, the federal government has extended the due duration of the unemployment insurance. there was a modest additional compensation added during the great recession in 2009. there was $25 added. to every benefit check. went largely unnoticed. in very low benefits read but the $600 really recognizes that the existing unemployment insurance is inadequate in many ways. i think the president's

they need to get x number of votes in flint, michigan, or kalamazoo, or some city in wisconsin i can't pronounce. policy is not going to get those votes. the culture war is going to get those votes. how does the vice president address this nation's culture war? jeanne: this is where i really have a respectful disagreement. i do think people need to know what their plans are, whether it is economic policy, tax policy. because if you are trying to get those voters in kalamazoo or people who listen to you and are experts on the market, you need to say that democrats are not just the party defined as a party of bigger taxes. is goinghis tax plan to cost $10 trillion. how are you going to pay for all of the programs you have in mind? the moderate voters are where you win this thing, so i think policy matters an awful lot to get beyond this sort of stereotypical description of what the democratic party is, and to differentiate biden from trump, who is his opponent in this election. i think the focus will be on this sort of culture war, and he will try to make the case that donald trump has m

video of 16-year-old cornelius frederick having lunch at lakeside academy, a home for at-risk youth in kalamazoo, michigan, he's seen throwing food. two staff members intervene. when he throws another item, he's pushed down, two men become three, then six on top of him after at least ten minutes of restraint, cornelius is lifted up limp and then watch what happens staff members, including a nurse stand around for another 12 minutes then the nurse calls 911. >> we have a student that he was in a restraint and now he's unresponsive >> reporter: two days later cornelius was dead. >> throwing a sandwich you don't suffocate children for throwing a sandwich that's murder. >> reporter: as you view the video what do you see? >> i see the killing of a child for no reason whatsoever >> reporter: attorney jeffrey figer is representing his family, suing the for nationwide, called sequel youth and familya regular occurrence they instilled fear in children. >> cornelius wanted to be a therapist when he grew up because he knew that kids needed help >> reporter: will white worked at another youth facility where

. >> originally from southwestern michigan and is fascinated that you live in kalamazoo what about the more middle america mindset? >> leaving anywhere is hard i am from evanston north of chicago and that's the only place we ever lived where i could hug and touch and call my real life friend is there. and then just coming to a place that doesn't have a lot of public transportation and places to go and occupy yourself i moved here and did not have a job or an office to go to every day and no purpose and it was really hard because there was nothing here to distract me or a mall to go to every day. there is no thai food or filipino food i actually have to get on the amtrak and go home. [laughter] but on the flipside what we pay for this entire house is less in my studio apartment in chicago. that is an incredible feeling. we did a drive to the flower farm just to warm up the car and gas is $1.44. i cannot go back to that traffic i don't know if i can go back things that i miss but they are convenience things. >> what about seeing black people every day i do see a fair amount of black peop

a white nationalist group called the proud boys, clash of violently with some counter-protesters in kalamazoo michigan police saying there there was fistfights and couple of people were arrested. jon. jon: aishah hasnie in new york city, aishah, thank you. ♪ crews are busy battling dozens of act of wildfires most of them out west this is a heat wave pushes ts into the triple digits. christina coleman has more from santa monica, california. christina. reporter: jon, this extreme heat has caused dangerous fire conditions, rolling backouts lots heading to beaches up and down coast which has health concerns and practicing social distancing because of coronavirus. >> pretty much every night today we're seeing at least some folks who are not following the rule. they're not sticking to that, and you know, this is not a moment for that. like there's too much community spread. california power grid operator might require state largest utility pacific gas and electric to do more rolling blackouts tonight. the statewide heat has strained california electrical system prompghting rolling blackouts on fr

in kalamazoo, michigan, a peaceful counterprotest turningh the alt-right group the proud boys, an organization designated as a hate group by the southern poverty law center. in chicago, one week after looters ransacked stores along the magnificent mile, black live matter demonstrators were blocked by a brigade of officers. the day's mostly peacefuldevolie evening. some officers appeared to use pepper spray to control the surging crowds as scuffles broke out in the streets. in all 24 arrests were made, 4 for felonies. and every night for a week, the city of chicago's bridges have remained up. mayor lori lightfoot drawing criticism for the images that apparently cut residents off from a predominantly white part of the city. dan? >> so much anger in the street. thank you. >>> we have breaking weather news. and new video of a firenado. rob has much more from norwalk, connecticut. rob, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, dan. we saw this similarly two yearsn ef-3 tornado was spawn bid the heat of a fire. it happens on rare occasions, and it looks like it happened yesterday and a rare fi

. >>> members of the far right group the proud boys clashed with counterprotesters in kalamazoo, michigan, on saturday. a fight broke out between the two groups and police were called in to clean the -- to the scene the clear the area. >>> now back to "dateline." >>> welcome back to "dateline." it had been over two years since gavin smith a charismatic entertainment executive and family man had vanished. detectives had a major break in the case when they discovered gavin's missing mercedes and his bloody hand print on the passenger's seat. there was also a person of interest, the jealous husband of the woman gavin was having an affair with. but there was still no bodies in until an inquisitive dog named buddy bounded onto the scene. here's keith morrison with "dark valley." >> rocky ramos liked to drive his truck up to the outskirts of the angeles national forest, a place where people tend to toss things like old tvs, maybe some furniture. rocky liked to poke around up here. always with his dog buddy by his side. >> he would be mad if any take him. >> in october, 2014, they were just five

. >>> in michigan, a rally by a far right group turning violent in downtown kalamazoo, demonstrators clashing with anti-racists and protesters at a count countervigil. it make you wonder if this is a sign of things to come. things squaring off in stone mountain, georgia, a suburban jaxson the home of giant rock ca carvings of leaders. >> and protests outside postmaster louis dejoy's home. >> quite a bit of unrest taking place in the country throughout the weekend and will be ongoing. let's go to that showdown now between the president and the postal service with 79 days until the election, the president firing back against complaints that his newly appointed postmaster louis dejoy is implementing changing that will cause delays in the mail delivery and intentionally affecting the integrity of the mail-in voting system. >> nancy pelosi is insisting on bringing the house back. he added we need to subpoena the postmaster general and if he fails to appear, we should send the sergeant-at-arms to arrest him. he said, it's not just the ballots being slowed but life-saving medicines affectin

and she is fascinated that you live in kalamazoo. and how is the shift from chicago to a place with more middle american mines? how has that been? >> chicago is the only -- i'm from evans which is just north of chicago. chicago's only place i've ever really lived very like everyone i know, but not know call my real-life friend is there. so leaving hard just because of that. in coming to a place that doesn't have a lot of public transportation. and restaurants and places to go. and places to occupy yourself. i didn't have a job. no office to go to every day. no purpose. [laughter] other than like sitting in my own. it was really hard because there is nothing here to distract me. there are no big glossy most read go sit in every day. so the adjustment was difficult at first. unlike there was no typhoon. and i want some filipino food. there is none of that here. i have to like get on the amtrak and go home. [laughter] but on the flipside, what we pay for, this entire house is less than my studio apartment in chicago. and like that is an

and she's fascinated that you live in kalamazoo. how's the shift from chicago to a place with more middle american minds. samantha: it was hard. coming living anywhere as hard. and chicago is the only, one from evanston just north of chicago. and chicago is the only place i have ever really loved like everyone i know. but everyone i could like hug in touch and, like real life friends is there. so living was hard. just because of that. and then like coming to a place that does not have like a lot of public transportation and restaurants and things. ... ... there is none of that h. i have to get on the amtrak to go home. but on the flipside, what we pay for this entire house, it's less than my studio apartment in chicago. that is an incredible feeling. we did a drive to the flower farm just to warm the car up and tried to do a long drive and pass the gas station and gas was like $1.44. and it's like i can't go back to the kind of traffic where everything is expensive. i don't know that i could go back. there are a lot of things i miss

senior economist at the nonprofit upjohn institute for employment research in kalamazoo, michigan. christopher o'leary, let's work away backwards. can you explain what president trump's executive action when it came to unappointed insurance he signed this weekend, what it did in how it compares to what was offered under the cares act? guest: good morning, john. thank you for having me on. pleasure to be on washington journal. certainly i can address the executive order. i read it. theink i understand objective. up and talke back about this whole idea of supplementing unemployment. it is interesting. there have been eight recessions since the eisenhower administration. every one the federal government has extended the duration of regular state on employment insurance benefits. there was a modest additional compensation added during the great recession in 2009. $25 added. check.d to every benefit it went largely unnoticed. recognized the existing unappointed insurance system is inadequate in many ways. in particular in terms of income replacement. , think the executive order let's ho

meanwhile, in kalamazoo, michigan, members of the far-right hate group the proud boys started attacking counter protesters who showed up at their rally. the proud boys waved american and trump flags and shouted racist slogans. samuel robinson, a local, black reporter from mlive was arrested and briefly detained, while covering the protest, despite identifying himself as a member of the press. in portland, oregon, right-wing extremists and members of the alt-right group patriot prayer organized a small rally, where they shot pellets from paintball guns and pepper spray against antiracist counter p protesters. in jackson, mimississippi, prosecutors have charged three police officers with murdering a black man outside his own home more than a year and a half ago. a grand jury indictment filed friday alleges that in january 2019, the three officers pulled 62-year-old george robinson from his car, threw him headfirst into the pavement, and then beat and kicked him in the head and chest. a coroner's report found robinson suffered broken ribs and a bleeding brain caused by blunt force trauma t

someone once to know, so this person is originally from southwestern michigan and she fasted you live in kalamazoo and how is the shift from chicago to a place with a more middle america mindset, how is that been? >> well, it was hard at -- leaving anywhere is hard and chicago is the only, i'm from evanston which is just north of chicago, and chicago is the only place i've ever really lived like everyone i know, not know with the internet benevolent i could like out and touch and call my like real life friend is there. so leaving his arches because of that, and then coming to a place that doesn't have a lot of public transportation and restaurants and places to go and places to occupy yourself. i i moved here and didn't have a job, like the office to go to every day, no purpose other than sitting in my own box and it was really hard because there was nothing here to distract me. it was like no big glossy mall for me to go sit in everyday. the adjustment was difficult at first, and i'm like there's no food. i want some filipino food. there's none of that here. i have to get on the amtrak and go hom

wants to no, originally southwestern michig michigan, benton harbor, and is fascinated that you live in kalamazoo and how is the shift from chicago to a place with a more middle america mindset? >> well, it was hard, leaving anywhere is hard and chicago is, i'm from evanston which is north of chicago and chicago is the only place i have ever really lived everyone i know and everyone i can hug and touch and call my real life friends is there so leaving it was hard just because of that in, you know, coming to a place that doesn't have a lot of public transportation and restaurants and places to go and places to occupy and i moved here and did not have a job and no office to go to every day, no purpose other than sitting in my own thoughts and it was really hard because there was nothing here to distract me and there was no big glossy mall for me to go to sit in everyday and the adjustment was difficult at first and there was no thai food and i wanted filipino food and there was none of that here and have to get on the amtrak and go home but on the flipside what we pay for this entire house is less

there were fistfights in a few people arrested again in kalamazoo michigan. arthel. arthel: aishah hasnie thank you. eric: on the other side of country cruising california are working around-the-clock battling multiple wildfires across the state. the heatwave is making matters worse calling rolling blackouts in dangerous conditions. forecasters are warning about the risk of new buyers amid the spiking temperatures. stephen coleman is live in santa monica with the details on this. >> this heatwave is causing dangerous fire conditions that fire crews have been battling all week and health officials are concerned about people along the beaches as they try to stay cool during this heatwave. they want to make sure people are practicing social distancing because of coronavirus. it has strained california's electrical system causing rolling blackouts something the state hasn't had in several decades. the power outages have impacted hundreds of thousands of people in the bay area. the road paving the outages at it last night but they may not be over and they will decide whet

kalamazoo, wisconsin, joplin, missouri, and then there are 13 other cities if there's no extension, we will stop service to these cities and 12 others on october 7th, at least for a month, then they'll reassess business. as you look at the airline stocks premarket, most under pressure keep in mind there's a decision about whether or not to award another $25 billion, cares act 2 is what it comes down to essential. that would lock in the employees all through the end of march, and approximately 75,000 layoffs would likely be avoided. part of this extension is not just guaranteeing the jobs, but also guarantees service. the if there's no cares act, the airlines are free to downside their routes and their businesses. >> i look at those cities and think to myself, how many carriers really go to their cities in if it's only one, going to cam ma zoo will cost as much as going to london, and congress people have no know this is going to occur >> it will be limited. what you have right now is most of these cities, they only have maybe one, two airlines. the changes that would be made is, will y

. >> next phone call is from raymond, kalamazoo, michigan. hi, raymond. raymond, we are going to move on. let's take a call from lonny, chevy chase, maryland. you are on the air. caller: good evening. lincoln referred to clay as his ideal as a statesman. i always believed that the two men had never met. however, recently i came across a web page which purported to show a book, i believe it was inscribed by clay to lincoln. could the panel comment on this? what's the thinking now? did clay and lincoln ever meet? >> we don't know, basically. there's one person who left a memoir about the turn of the -- between 19th and 20th century that said that person had seen the two in lexington. abraham lincoln married mary todd lincoln. mary todd, who was from lexington. and her family was very closely aligned with the clays. so her family knew the clays. lincoln came to kentucky several times in connection with the family in the states. and he certainly heard -- heard henry clay speak. whether they met is unknown. imagine what a great time it would have been had -- y